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What kind of situation do you see the USA in, in 2015? For instance, will there be gay marriage? Will we teach Creationism in schools? Will society be more liberal or more conservative? Will it become like "Escape From New York" or more like "Minority Report"? That kinda info.

If you can't tell already, I am very interested in futurism.

The future will be exactly as Max Barry has predicted in Jenefer Government.

Anyone ever read Snowcrash? I often see the economic situation turning to that. Not a complete SnowCrash scenario, but it gets my point across.

What kind of situation do you see the USA in, in 2015? For instance, will there be gay marriage? Will we teach Creationism in schools? Will society be more liberal or more conservative? Will it become like "Escape From New York" or more like "Minority Report"? That kinda info.

If you can't tell already, I am very interested in futurism.

Guaging by how long it took between the beginning of the fight for interracial marriage (which was once considered unnatural and sinful) and its acceptance, I'd say we'll have gay marriage by 2015.

More in general, it seems that America's dominant economic and military position will be surpased by some other nations that are currently catching up fast (such as China or India), but it will take us much longer to accept it than it will take for it to actually happen.

And yeah, I think Max Barry wasn't being very outlandish when he wrote the book this game is named after. Corporate consumerist culture will continue to consume our great nation even more than it already has. It's a shame that an idea as good as capitalism, when left with unchecked power, will actually backfire on us.

Same as now in most areas. More tech jobs, less general manufacturing. The military's pushing remotely-operated drones and robotic infantry. I think the drones will work, the robots less so. More growth beyond the suburbs, more urban decay, and continued economic growth at about the same level. That's my best guess.

whats snowcrash ecoonmics? - it ... may not be much different then it is now.... standard of living will be lower... for sure... with out doubt... however in 11 years ... the change will be so slow we will not notice it... in 11 years China's Economy made be noticably stronger then Americas ... although most willl deny it..... give it 21 years.... 2025 and China's economy will be stronger then Americas... maybe to the point where they are not only a world power but THE world power... bigger then America was 5 years ago...11 years the democrats may form the government again :) - yes... 8 more years after Bush... without fail - bet the farm on it if you want... ummm... no gay marriage... although Canada - and all of Europe and maybe Mexico will have had it for 4 or 5 years... it will be equally as conservative.... mostly because how it is now... is almost as conservative as the christian faith allows ... theres already a lot of policy with i think is very agaisnt the values the bible teaches .... what else do you wanna predict?

although Canada - and all of Europe and maybe Mexico will have had it for 4 or 5 years..

Haha. Don't hold your breath on Mexico allowing gay marriage. I don't know where you heard that was gonna happen, but it's not, not until after Hell freezes over. :p

I was writting my response as you where writting yours HeadScratchie - our predictions about China are the same... (i was going to add by 2025 India Japan and Germany many be simalar to US - and china way in front) but most people in the US not agreeing.... but yeah... the writtings on the wall

I have a feeling it won't be nearly as bad as people fear it will be. We have a tendency to reverse trends that weaken us. Self-preservation is an instinct.

And before we start fellating China, I'd like to know how economic strength is measured.

I was writting my response as you where writting yours HeadScratchie - our predictions about China are the same... (i was going to add by 2025 India Japan and Germany many be simalar to US - and china way in front) but most people in the US not agreeing.... but yeah... the writtings on the wall

Yeah, China's really going places.. half their population works in agriculture, and yet they produce almost nothing compared to U.S. farmers, 2-3% of our population. The only way China beats Europe or the U.S. in 20 years is if you take their dubious numbers (9% annual GDP growth) and assume it will maintain and increase every year, while Western economies fall. We'll see about that, but I would doubt it, especially given China's energy problems and our increasing shift toward India.

Haha. Don't hold your breath on Mexico allowing gay marriage. I don't know where you heard that was gonna happen, but it's not, not until after Hell freezes over. :p

Yeah, people I've talked to from Hispanic countries indicate that there is a LOT more resistance to the idea there than there even is here. It's just more culturally rejected there according to the people I've talked to about it.

Yeah, China's really going places.. half their population works in agriculture, and yet they produce almost nothing compared to U.S. farmers, 2-3% of our population. The only way China beats Europe or the U.S. in 20 years is if you take their dubious numbers (9% annual GDP growth) and assume it will maintain and increase every year, while Western economies fall. We'll see about that, but I would doubt it, especially given China's energy problems and our increasing shift toward India.


Your agriculture numbers are misleading.
Population of China: roughly 1.3 billion
Population of US: roughy 300 million

So when you have a BILLION more people, talking about percentage of population isn't going to give you a good comparison.

Do the Math - Latin countries are so much more Catholic conservative and traditional than America that gay marriage may never catch on there. I dunno. But Snowcrash economics is where hyperinflation takes hold of our economy and ten bucks is now like 10,000 or so. Maybe more like 100,000 I don't really see hyperinflation in any near future, but with real estate price trends on the steady rise, and we all know they won't back down an inch ever, some sort of bad inflation is inevitable eventually. Also - Hotels and clubs and such are there own privately owned sector of America, practially countries, and the only organizations that still have umm organizations are corporations, the Mafia, the Colombian Narc dealers, and the enfeebled Federal gov't. So you end up with massive consumerization of the economy, advanced technology while people live in storage facilities (yes, rent-a-storage), and your best bet is to join up with an organized power-holder like the Mafia or the Narcs. You'd have to read it, but I forgot who the author was. It's been awhile. For all the samurai-philes at heart, it's semi interesting with the sword action, too.

You must take into account that most of the Silent Generation will die out by 2015 as well. That leaves the Baby Boomers, Generation X, and by then, Generation Y (my generation) will be a force.

It is currently surveyed that Generation Y (born between 1982-1997) are very cliqueish. More than Generation X ever was. There is more of a split from the main 2 political parties towards nonpartisanship, and most of us do not vote yet. We are the biggest generation in a while. They say we surpass the Baby Boomers in numbers. The question is..... will we end up liberals or conservatives? Populists or libertarians?

I see civil unions being legal within 10 years, but not marriage. At least not in all states. Possibility of cigarettes being made illegal, and pot being made legal instead. Driving age will be escalated to 18 in most states. As Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson and ilk die, other more radical christian rightists will replace them, but they will be pushed into obscurity. I see a personal liberal trend in young people like myself, but the split seems to be in regards to populism and libertarianism. Force people to give aid, or let people deal with their shit?

What kind of situation do you see the USA in, in 2015? For instance, will there be gay marriage? Will we teach Creationism in schools? Will society be more liberal or more conservative? Will it become like "Escape From New York" or more like "Minority Report"? That kinda info.

If you can't tell already, I am very interested in futurism.

the future... scary thought...

I see a personal liberal trend in young people like myself, but the split seems to be in regards to populism and libertarianism. Force people to give aid, or let people deal with their shit?

I've noticed the same thing. In fact, it's the primary thing my girlfriend and I argue about (I'm more populist, she's hardcore libertarian).

....China's energy comsumption is sharply on the rise.... i dont have exact stats but... things like thousands of precents in a few years - there energy problem is only that they cant get enough - didnt they buy almost as much oil as the US last year?

yes... alot of there population is in subsistent agriculture - others produce a ton - just incredable amounts - they diffenately dont only product 3% of what american farmers produce - i cant believe they produce less

America in 10 years? Let's see...

- Yes, Creationism will be taught at schools. They will also teach the sun revolved around the Earth.
- Intellectuals will all have emigrated to Europe.
- In respect for science, the US will be overtaken by China and India.
- The space program of NASA will cease to exist (due to lack of funding).
- There will be an AIDS epidemic that will be as bad as in some African sub-saharan countries.
- Unemployment will be unimaginably high, healthcare system non-existent and life will be miserable.
- The streets will be full of doomsdayers saying the end of the world is near.
- America will be totally bancrupt. The deficit will be in the order of hundreds of trillion dollars.
- The environment will be totally screwed. LA and NY will resemble Bombay and Jarkarta in many ways, and the bald-headed eagle will be extinct.
- NATO will have crumbled and America will prettymuch stand alone.

I've noticed the same thing. In fact, it's the primary thing my girlfriend and I argue about (I'm more populist, she's hardcore libertarian).

Yeah, I'm softcore libertarian, and my sister is soft-core populist. We always argue as well. Now if only I had a girlfriend to argue with.

America in 10 years? Let's see...

- Yes, Creationism will be taught at schools. They will also teach the sun revolved around the Earth.
- Intellectuals will all have emigrated to Europe.
- In respect for science, the US will be overtaken by China and India.
- The space program of NASA will cease to exist.
- There will be an AIDS epidemic that will be as bad as in some African sub-saharan countries.
- Unemployment will be unimaginably high, healthcare system non-existent and life will be miserable.
- The streets will be full of doomsdayers saying the end of the world is near.
- America will be totally bancrupt. The deficit will be in the order of hundreds of trillion dollars.
- The environment will be totally screwed. LA and NY will resemble Bombay and Jarkarta in many ways, and the bald-headed eagle will be extinct.
- NATO will have crumbled and America will prettymuch stand alone.


Whoa. The scary thing is that if all the useful people pull an "Atlas Shrugged", what you are describing actually COULD HAPPEN.

Meep.

Go south of the mason-dixon line and I think the trending toward liberal, populist ideas among the younger generation starts to break down. There's a lot of conservative kids in the south. There's quite a few in the north too, but they might lean more toward libertarian or centerist ideas. In any case I don't think the numbers would vary any more then + or - 15%. I have a feeling that liberals and conservatives are fairly evenly spread out across the country.

Let's cross our fingers and hope libertarianism ends up being the next big thing.

You must take into account that most of the Silent Generation will die out by 2015 as well. That leaves the Baby Boomers, Generation X, and by then, Generation Y (my generation) will be a force.

It is currently surveyed that Generation Y (born between 1982-1997) are very cliqueish. More than Generation X ever was. There is more of a split from the main 2 political parties towards nonpartisanship, and most of us do not vote yet. We are the biggest generation in a while. They say we surpass the Baby Boomers in numbers. The question is..... will we end up liberals or conservatives? Populists or libertarians?

Well, since you made GenY the technical 82-97 block, I have to protest. Where I live, there is a big difference between the ones who just graduated from high school and everyone below them. They're all brats. Spoiled, stupid by way of cliqueishness and trying to be Bam Margera. I would NOT trust our future to the younger GenYs I know unless they grow up first. I mean, by a lot more than my age group did at that time. Maybe it's just me, or maybe it's just Savannah, or even jus my school and church, but I'm seeing it everywhere. I just don't like the little snot-nosed bastards. Not a one of 'em. Lazy, no good, low-down, scumbag, crack-piping, motherless.... no, j/k, I know plenty o good younger'uns, I just know more bad than good.

Your agriculture numbers are misleading.
Population of China: roughly 1.3 billion
Population of US: roughy 300 million

So when you have a BILLION more people, talking about percentage of population isn't going to give you a good comparison.


Okay. Half of their BILLION people farm. 2% of Americans farm. So.. they have more farmers than America has people, and yet we outproduce them.

Go south of the mason-dixon line and I think the trending toward liberal, populist ideas among the younger generation starts to break down. There's a lot of conservative kids in the south. There's quite a few in the north too, but they might lean more toward libertarian or centerist ideas. In any case I don't think the numbers would vary any more then + or - 15%. I have a feeling that liberals and conservatives are fairly evenly spread out across the country.

Let's cross our fingers and hope libertarianism ends up being the next big thing.

I have always lived in the south, and it's where I'm seing a libertarian "live and let live" trend forming among most. It's the people who had Democrat parents who are turning into the populist liberals. The ones with rural parents and latch-key kids are becoming the libertarian type. Like me. My dad is a pastor. My mom used to be. I'm a libertarian. My sister is a populist.

Okay. Half of their BILLION people farm. 2% of Americans farm. So.. they have more farmers than America has people, and yet we outproduce them.

It's all about technology. They farm with what, peasant-like tactics? I mean, come on. We even subsidize our farmers so much, they overproduce and kill the market price. Who in the world could compete? Besides that we have a heck of a lot of land for farming, especially farming as efficiently as we do.

America in 10 years? Let's see...

- Yes, Creationism will be taught at schools. They will also teach the sun revolved around the Earth.
- Intellectuals will all have emigrated to Europe.
- In respect for science, the US will be overtaken by China and India.
- The space program of NASA will cease to exist (due to lack of funding).
- There will be an AIDS epidemic that will be as bad as in some African sub-saharan countries.
- Unemployment will be unimaginably high, healthcare system non-existent and life will be miserable.
- The streets will be full of doomsdayers saying the end of the world is near.
- America will be totally bancrupt. The deficit will be in the order of hundreds of trillion dollars.
- The environment will be totally screwed. LA and NY will resemble Bombay and Jarkarta in many ways, and the bald-headed eagle will be extinct.
- NATO will have crumbled and America will prettymuch stand alone.

Haha, every liberal's wet dream. :p

Nuclear wasteland, with any luck. Fallout Tactics style.

I have always lived in the south, and it's where I'm seing a libertarian "live and let live" trend forming among most. It's the people who had Democrat parents who are turning into the populist liberals. The ones with rural parents and latch-key kids are becoming the libertarian type. Like me. My dad is a pastor. My mom used to be. I'm a libertarian. My sister is a populist.

Maybe cause I'm in college now, but it does seem to me that the live and let live is the pop. thing to do here. The only conservatives I still meet are either unconcerned with most politics (but I voted for Bush 'cause my daddy did! sad, I know people who said that) or few and far between. I dunno. ::shrug::

Haha, every liberal's wet dream. Keep dreamin'. :p

More like nightmare. Besides, the outlook for the rest of the world doesn't look much better, either.

Maybe cause I'm in college now, but it does seem to me that the live and let live is the pop. thing to do here. The only conservatives I still meet are either unconcerned with most politics (but I voted for Bush 'cause my daddy did! sad, I know people who said that) or few and far between. I dunno. ::shrug::


Yeah, it was live and let live in my rural redneck VA highschool most of the time too. Cept for some people who have to make the goths and gays lives a living hell. I was the pastors son, so I got teased as well by the dicks, but you got them in all high schools.

Anyways, in response to an earlier reply, yes, the ones in high school right now do seem shallow and self absorbed. Will they stay like that? Possibly. However, I suggest you check out your local middle school or junior high. Those kids are bright and seem much better than those in high school right now. Perhaps it's just something high school does to people.

blarg -

It's all about technology. They farm with what, peasant-like tactics? I mean, come on. We even subsidize our farmers so much, they overproduce and kill the market price. Who in the world could compete? Besides that we have a heck of a lot of land for farming, especially farming as efficiently as we do.

I understand how economics work at least that much - China's not in the stone age as half of you think -

They farm rice more efficently then we farm wheat or corn or anything - People too often make the mistake of thinking the United States developes all the worlds techonolgy and invents everything first - United States was simply the best - alot of other countries do things too

More like nightmare. Besides, the outlook for the rest of the world doesn't look much better, either.

Yeah, but it's a "conservatism destroys the universe" scenario.. so, it's still a liberal's fanstasy. See, unlimited catastrophe would prove to everyone that liberals had the right idea on everything, and failure to listen to them caused every problem there is, right? ;)

blarg -



I understand how economics work at least that much - China's not in the stone age as half of you think -

They farm rice more efficently then we farm wheat or corn or anything - People too often make the mistake of thinking the United States developes all the worlds techonolgy and invents everything first - United States was simply the best - alot of other countries do things too

American wheat techinology came mainly from Russian immigrants. I'm not saying we invented everything, only that we're pushing the limits of technology as much as we can, producing someplace near 2/3 of the world's grain, by never being satisfied with the current standards. Agriculture's important to mention if you're going to compare the U.S. and China, since Agriculture is China's largest area of production and employment.

America only produces 2/3s of the worlds grain by people who dont consider rice a grain and seperate it

Yeah, but it's a "conservatism destroys the universe" scenario.. so, it's still a liberal's fanstasy. See, unlimited catastrophe would prove to everyone that liberals had the right idea on everything, and failure to listen to them caused every problem there is, right? ;)

Well, first of all, i didn't say it was a "conservatism destroys the universe scenario" (liberals could cause nearly the same in the current context), second i'm no liberal (at least not by my definition) and third I don't say i have a solution, i just say what's possibly going to happen. Hope for the best but expect the worst. That's it.

America only produces 2/3s of the worlds grain by people who dont consider rice a grain and seperate it

Rice included. Arkansas and the Delta are huge rice production centers. Rice technology has exploded here. We invented vitamin-A fortified rice, which has saved countless Chinese, in fact. Rice and soy are counted as grains, as far as I can recall.

Rice included. Arkansas and the Delta are huge rice production centers. Rice technology has exploded here. We invented vitamin-A fortified rice, which has saved countless Chinese, in fact. Rice and soy are counted as grains, as far as I can recall.

- believe it or not china produces more rice then it eats... im looking for sources and stats... but can't find them yet.... but they have been doing this for a while now

- believe it or not china produces more rice then it eats... im looking for sources and stats... but can't find them yet.... but they have been doing this for a while now

I'd be pretty shocked if they didn't produce more rice than we do, given that most Chinese live on it. I meant that rice is included as a grain, not that we produce more of that particular grain than the Chinese do. The Japanese probably produce more rice than we do as well. Grains overall though, no one produces more than U.S. corporations.

Here is my prediction from my humble and amazing perspective :p .

Osama Bin Laden will have been killed and made a martyr by the extremists in Al'qaeda. (But then killed off anyway). :sniper:

Iraq will be more stable

Democrats would be in the White House :(

Iran will be getting more cocky

George Galloway will have been convicted and imprisoned :)

Europe will still be trying to gain power over its members :mad:

The UK will still have the Pound £ :cool:

The Conservatives (Tories) will be in power

UK and US relations will still be strong, (despite a few disagreements) :D

Stun guns will have been issued to all police officers in the US

UK will still be debating whether the police should be armed :headbang:

Scientists will have discovered the cure for cancer :D

NASA will be making more progress with putting a man on Mars! :eek:
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Anything is possible!

What's this got to do with the price of wheat in China??...... Oh... Wait.....

What's this got to do with the price of wheat in China??...... Oh... Wait.....

Hah, yeah. A bit of a hijack, I guess.

im kinda late but whatever...
in 10 years, there will be 500 billion people cramped on ever-shrinking continents and every oil reserve will run dry, the wold will fall into complete anarchy and everyone will die except for me and a beautiful woman because we would leave Earth and go live on Xenthismos 84 to populate a new colony of humans. Then we would defeat the man eating tacos once we have made enough sour cream to top them all off with. Once the man eating tacos are gone, the human race, a peaceful, liberal and generous breed of humans, will continue to prosper until the dreaded Black Phonebook comes to block out the "sun," in hopes to defeat the feeble population of humans to save the race of water bottles on the nearby planet of Telex. Oops I'm ranting. Oh well. The humans will make peace with the water bottles to confront the evil Evor Lraks who manipulate every living organism it comes across to blindly follow him. To make a long story short, the humans and the water bottles will defeat the Evor Lraks and restor peace throughout the galaxy. All within 20 years starting precisely at 12:00 am, January 1st, 2015.

All that in ten years?!?!

You'd better get started then!

Dunno why you're all saying China is going to surpass America in terms of economy - China's economy is going to collapse within 15 years due to there simply being not enough natural resources on the entire planet to sustain it.

What kind of situation do you see the USA in, in 2015? For instance, will there be gay marriage? Will we teach Creationism in schools? Will society be more liberal or more conservative? Will it become like "Escape From New York" or more like "Minority Report"? That kinda info.

If you can't tell already, I am very interested in futurism.

Well, I see a lot of things I don't like in the future, but this is what I think will happen.

There will probably be gay marriage, in fact I'm almost certain there will be. I think schools will be like mine, they will tell you the theory of evolution, but say you can believe in Creationism if you like and that evolution is ONLY a theory. I think things will be about half an half as far as liberal and conservative.

Within ten years the US will follow the same path as the SU, and fall apart into different nations that don't want to have anything to do with each other. With any luck that is. :)

This after the economy goes down, creating another great depression, political scandals that illustrate that the vast majority of politicians only work to further their personal agenda, which not so incidentally do not serve the needs and wants of those they pretend to represend, further mutilation of the constitution, eniromental collapse,more wars that will have many young americans killed in meaningless wars and which only serve the purpose to further US hegemony, and endless measures to increase the control over the population at the expense of their freedom all under the guise of "anti-terrorism measures" or some shit like that.

Mmmh, probably a few city's will get nuked and to make things really interesting: citizens who stand up for their freedom will be branded as 'terrorists' and put away to ensure the safety of -- obviously not the people, but the dictators who feel treatened by them.

Within ten years the US will follow the same path as the SU, and fall apart into different nations that don't want to have anything to do with each other. With any luck that is. :)

This after the economy goes down, creating another great depression, political scandals that illustrate that the vast majority of politicians only work to further their personal agenda, which not so incidentally do not serve the needs and wants of those they pretend to represend, further mutilation of the constitution, eniromental collapse,more wars that will have many young americans killed in meaningless wars and which only serve the purpose to further US hegemony, and endless measures to increase the control over the population at the expense of their freedom all under the guise of "anti-terrorism measures" or some shit like that.

Mmmh, probably a few city's will get nuked and to make things really interesting: citizens who stand up for their freedom will be branded as 'terrorists' and put away to ensure the safety of -- obviously not the people, but the dictators who feel treatened by them.

Nice one!

Mmmh, probably a few city's will get nuked and to make things really interesting: citizens who stand up for their freedom will be branded as 'terrorists' and put away to ensure the safety of -- obviously not the people, but the dictators who feel treatened by them.

For some reason, I don't see this happening.

In 10 years time, that would be 2015...

By 2015,

1. Prison numbers will have grown by an extra 1 million or so in an attempt to suppress the rising crime caused by the growing number of criminals that come out of prison knowing only violence as a way of life. (people elect the attorneys on thr basis that being more brutally suppressive is the only way to beat crime)

2. The economy will have suffered relative decline in the last 10 years due to new companies seeking to locate in less violent and repressive countries. Following Alan Greenspan's retirement, a short-termist is appointed to the federal reserve bank who gives in to banks for demands of low interest rates. This leads to higher inflation, and the US economy experiences stagflation soon afterwoods.

3. The poor permormance of the economy will lead to reduced tax revenues. This will put governments at the both the state and federal levels in a difficult position of whether to reduce spending or raise taxes. Also requiring a fiscal contraction will be the need to reduce the federal government deficit. All this means that it will not be possible for the government to spend the economy out of the bad situation.

4. As a result, there will be suffocating tax rates and mass unemployment, leading to rising crime and more suppression. Tax rates will have risen to a mere 25% of the nation's GDP in 2005 to about 40% by 2015. Unemployment would have risen from about 5% in mid 2005 to about 17% in 2015. Because of pressure on the government to cut funding to education and anti-poverty initiatives, there will be greater social problems in the future, leading to more crime, and even more police, prisons, violations of civil liberties, and supression.

Within just 10 years America will have changed form what seemed like a properous industrialised country into a brutal, repressive, third-world, quazi-military police state.

The world will turn into a mix between Ghost in the Shell and Command and Conquer.

In the year 2015, the Lord will send angels to destroy us. Then we will defeat the angels and use clones of them to remove our AT fields and become a single being that shares a mind. As bad as that sounds, at least before it happens, there will be Rei Ayanami and Kaworu Nagisa to make things a little more bareable :fluffle:

Actually, we will be enslaved by pissed off machines who will construct a simulated world and use us as a powersource. Then a slow-witted actor will use kung-fu to free us, fighting a guy in a business suit who is fond of Nietzsche and also knows kung-fu who wants to take over the entire world and such.

Jeez, this thread turned into a joke.

2015

After 7-years of government by extreme-rightist Christian extremists that managed to get elected into power in USA as a result of less than 15% of the electorate voting in national elections and only the extreme turning out, forces of the European Union will have just aided the United States resistance movement to liberate the US capital Washington in the cause of spreading freedom and democracy. EU and anti-extremist Americans forces are in control of much of the country, but suffer from suicide bomb attacks by the Christian fundementalist remnants of the ousted regime. This is making it very difficult for the EU's Administrator of the United States (ironically a French citizen) to organise democratic elections to transition power back to the United States population.

The European Union governments and those governments in member states that were favourable towards the military invention in USA are bracing themselves for a popular backlash in the next EU elections, as many Europeans didn't support the actions of their governments, saying that the Americans deserved their fate.

2015

After 7-years of government by extreme-rightist Christian extremists that managed to get elected into power in USA as a result of less than 15% of the electorate voting in national elections and only the extreme turning out, forces of the European Union will have just aided the United States resistance movement to liberate the US capital Washington in the cause of spreading freedom and democracy. EU and anti-extremist Americans forces are in control of much of the country, but suffer from suicide bomb attacks by the Christian fundementalist remnants of the ousted regime. This is making it very difficult for the EU's Administrator of the United States (ironically a French citizen) to organise democratic elections to transition power back to the United States population.

The European Union governments and those governments in member states that were favourable towards the military invention in USA are bracing themselves for a popular backlash in the next EU elections, as many Europeans didn't support the actions of their governments, saying that the Americans deserved their fate. :D


Sounds like something by Heinlein. :)

For some reason, I don't see this happening.

It is already happening.

"If you support the conspiracy theories then you are with the terrorists and you know what we do with them." by King George II.

It'll become a libertarian paradise

10 years from now..

1. The world continues to go out of control. Amercia and its right wing government will deem everyone not with them impure. They will bring back the inquisiton. Instead of burning at the stake they will unleash their nuclear weapons upon the world. Fusion bombs that burn hotter than the center of the sun.

In a mad grab for power other governments try to conquer their neighbors. The EU will colapse with Germany at the head of a new european war as the US nukes North Korea and its other "enemies". Other dictorships seeing the world collapse decide what the hell and have at it with their rivals. All the while the news media feeds the public with mis-information. After all war brings news and who wants peace. Peace doesnt make good news.

Then the media tycoons step into place as the new power. Media, Science and Technology become the new gods. In the wasteland of the future is controlled by power mad corporations who send people out into space in barely servicable space ships and begin to colonize the moon.


2. Or everything begins to settle down. The US pulls it head out of its ass and realizes it is not as perfect as it thinks. The EU will get along. The US, EU and China become the biggest superpowers in the world. They work with each other to ensure that peace will remain. Trade between these three superpowers will bring a new level of trade and prosperity to all. The evil that is captialism will be replaced by a mild form of socialism where governments actualy look out for what is best for its citizens.

With a few brief conflicts the world settles down as the three superpowers divide the world between themselves.

But hmmm other than that I hope nothing bad happens to anyone. Hopefully we will be able to get along. And there will be no more big wars.

In ten years time... *thinks* please don't say doing your wife please don't say doing your wife. Doing your... son?

10 years from now.... hmmmm...

1) Same-Sex marrage is legal througout the USA... thus America's population growth is now -.02% and falling due to the lack of Heterosexual partners. Forcing the government to sponsor 'Incentives' for women to get pregnant. Men cry sexual Discrimination since they cannot bear children and thus cannot benifit from "Incentives." Women Disgusted with the idea of giving birth to 'Boys.'

2) an outcry of discrimination against people wanting to marry their pets will be argued in congress "we are loving and we care for our Non-Human family members, why can we not show it in Holy Matrimony."

3) The worlds largest Mosque is completed in Washington D.C. President Muhammad Al-Laden is Present for it's first cerimony.

4) Windows BGRW (Bill Gates Rules World) has bugs that allow computers to take over homes. Patch will be avaiable for a modest price of $4999.95

5) After President GW Bush wins 2008 election (one that he didn't run for) all elections are back to punch card tallies. thus the final results of the new elections taken place in 2009 is declared in Mid 2012. in time for the next Presidential Election.

6) Congress disbanded... the House of Representatives are also desolved. all laws now made by each State and their Supreme Courts.

7) all Guns are banned, all knives are banned. all blunt instruments and pointy implements are banned. Currently a law is being arugued about banning Yo-yo's after a man was beaten sensless and was strangled on the string.

8) after the V-Chip installed, cable channels now sport 1000 channels of snow and static.

9) Muslim Cleric's call for stricter game regulations when "Vice City: Amish Terror" portrays women stomping on Anthills, and walking around displaying their Shins.

10) Children going to school are now required to wear uniforms consisting of Bullet proof Vests and one "Saturday Night Special" Classrooms are now divided so that teachers are well protected from the students and vice versa. Class curriculums are decided upon by the parents and depending on the courses taken, that determines the cost to the parents.

11) Federal Ruling about Tax Exempts for all Religious holdings are repealed. thus Islam (Financed by Mid East Corporations) is the only Organized Religion left in the US.

12) After the Great Power Failure of 2009. a new invention is unveiled... it does not require power, nor will data be lost during the next blackout... it's called the Bio-Optical Omnipedia of Knowledge... or BOOK for short.

Haha, every liberal's wet dream. :p
How could anyone, liberal or conservative, think that Wisjersey's prediction is desirable?

Yeah, but it's a "conservatism destroys the universe" scenario.. so, it's still a liberal's fantasy. See, unlimited catastrophe would prove to everyone that liberals had the right idea on everything, and failure to listen to them caused every problem there is, right?
His prediction is mostly accurate if extremely conservative policies are followed.

Liberals are about making the world a better place, not just about feeling good about being right. They don't want to see the world go to hell just because conservatives did it.

It'll become a libertarian paradise
What makes you think that?

Besides, "libertarian paradise" is an oxymoron! :D

10 years from now.... hmmmm...

1) Same-Sex marrage is legal througout the USA... thus America's population growth is now -.02% and falling due to the lack of Heterosexual partners. Forcing the government to sponsor 'Incentives' for women to get pregnant. Men cry sexual Discrimination since they cannot bear children and thus cannot benifit from "Incentives." Women Disgusted with the idea of giving birth to 'Boys.'
What, you think that legal same-sex marriage will make everyone turn gay?

What, you think that legal same-sex marriage will make everyone turn gay?Nope, But right now, it's what... 2.5 kids to keep the population stable, more to have growth.

now take away 1% (modest estimate) of the birth capable people due to Same Sex Marrage and that makes the number of kids needed to have a stable population rise. Add to that the cost of Childcare, and that becomes a burden to most families that they just cannot afford.

Nope, But right now, it's what... 2.5 kids to keep the population stable, more to have growth.

now take away 1% (modest estimate) of the birth capable people due to Same Sex Marrage and that makes the number of kids needed to have a stable population rise. Add to that the cost of Childcare, and that becomes a burden to most families that they just cannot afford.

But that's assuming that gays know they are gay all along. Some gays get married to women and don't realize they are gay for a few years. Also, I think gay marriage would be excellent because they may want kids so much that they adopt a lot. Most kids today stay in state care instead of being adopted.

But that's assuming that gays know they are gay all along. Some gays get married to women and don't realize they are gay for a few years. Also, I think gay marriage would be excellent because they may want kids so much that they adopt a lot. Most kids today stay in state care instead of being adopted.but with the number of Heterosexual couples falling, the controversy of Abortion and the number of same sex partners rising, the number of children elegible for adoptioin will fall. also opening up a boom in one disgusting trade... Baby trade... Even then America's population growth will hit zero and begin a dip into the negatives.

as Same Sex Marrages (SSM... tired of typing it out) increases, it will become a cultural norm and eventurally, will equal the number of "traditional M/F Marrages (MFM for short). which will make the number of chilren born rise to 4 kids per family (assuming that half will be adopted by SSM families and including Invetro Fertilization (sp).)

but with the number of Heterosexual couples falling, the controversy of Abortion and the number of same sex partners rising, the number of children elegible for adoptioin will fall. also opening up a boom in one disgusting trade... Baby trade... Even then America's population growth will hit zero and begin a dip into the negatives.

as Same Sex Marrages (SSM... tired of typing it out) increases, it will become a cultural norm and eventurally, will equal the number of "traditional M/F Marrages (MFM for short). which will make the number of chilren born rise to 4 kids per family (assuming that half will be adopted by SSM families and including Invetro Fertilization (sp).)

And the blatent exaggeration award goes to........

What makes you think that?
Besides, "libertarian paradise" is an oxymoron! :D
That was just me being random :D
What I really hope for is a future a la Mobile Suit Gundam

And the blatent exaggeration award goes to........Really!... my little dark imagination thing won this award!

I would really think there are other ideas that are more exaggerated then mine, but I do accept this award.

I'd like to thank sleep deprivation... and the overdose of Sugar and Caffeine..

I will treasure this always. :D

[Bows and shakes Presenter's Hand.]

We will have discovered how to clone Neanderthals, which will begin to staff Taco Bell, Bell Telephones, and Toronto Transit Commission ticket booths.

We will have discovered how to clone Neanderthals, which will begin to staff Taco Bell, Bell Telephones, and Toronto Transit Commission ticket booths.
and all convience stores! mustn't forget those!

We will have discovered how to clone Neanderthals, which will begin to staff Taco Bell, Bell Telephones, and Toronto Transit Commission ticket booths.

We can't get the undead to do it like in Shaun of The Dead? :(

Nope, But right now, it's what... 2.5 kids to keep the population stable, more to have growth.

now take away 1% (modest estimate) of the birth capable people due to Same Sex Marrage and that makes the number of kids needed to have a stable population rise. Add to that the cost of Childcare, and that becomes a burden to most families that they just cannot afford.
you assume that your hypothetical situation is any different to what happens already

Coal will have made the biggest comeback since the Second Coming of Christ. Although that one hasn't happened yet so it's a bit of a dud comparison. Unless did happen and we were all out at the shops at the time... In which case the Second Coming would've been rubbish and it'd still be a dud comparison.

Foiled again!