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# CIA Cyber War Games

OceanDrive
28-05-2005, 03:42
The CIA is conducting a war game this week to simulate an unprecedented, Sept. 11-like electronic assault against the United States. The three-day exercise, known as "Silent Horizon," is meant to test the ability of government and industry to respond to escalating Internet disruptions over many months, according to participants.

They spoke on condition of anonymity because the CIA asked them not to disclose details of the sensitive exercise taking place in Charlottesville, Va., about two hours southwest of Washington.

The simulated attacks were carried out five years in the future by a fictional new alliance of anti-American organizations that included anti-globalization hackers. The most serious damage was expected to be inflicted in the closing hours of the war game Thursday.

The national security simulation was significant because its premise - a devastating cyberattack that affects government and parts of the economy on the scale of the 2001 suicide hijackings - contradicts assurances by U.S. counterterrorism experts that such effects from a cyberattack are highly unlikely.
Koroser
07-06-2005, 22:10
Very nice non sequiteur.
Drunk commies deleted
07-06-2005, 22:16
Americans’ belief about God

4% believe everyone is God. (2005)
69% believe that God is the all-powerful, all-knowing, perfect creator that rules the world today. (2005)
7% believe that God is the total realization of personal, human potential. (2005)
4% believe that there are many gods, each with different power and authority. (2005)
9% believe that God is a state of higher consciousness that a person may reach. (2005)
3% believe that there is no such thing as God. (2005)

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GOD asked me to tell you that blatant attempts at hijacking threads will get you an eternity of fire and poking with sharp objects. You have been warned.

EDIT: He also told me to ask you for some cash. Whatever you can spare. Just send it to me and I'll see to it that he gets it.
The Vuhifellian States
07-06-2005, 22:49
Oooohhh, so finally the government is taking steps against cyber-terror.

Ah, with but a single computer its amazing how you can cripple an entire country's economy, or disrupt its communications, or steal sensitive military information...

Oh well, really hate for the terrorists to target the Northeast, cuz if they do, I'm movin to Canada....actually maybe Brazil.....or Florida....
Istenert
07-06-2005, 22:51
Question: how are they going to mainpulate individual minds and individual panic attacks and individual thoughs and individual abilities with an online program?
Syniks
07-06-2005, 22:57
The CIA is conducting a war game this week to simulate an unprecedented, Sept. 11-like electronic assault against the United States. The three-day exercise, known as "Silent Horizon," is meant to test the ability of government and industry to respond to escalating Internet disruptions over many months, according to participants.

They spoke on condition of anonymity because the CIA asked them not to disclose details of the sensitive exercise taking place in Charlottesville, Va., about two hours southwest of Washington.

The simulated attacks were carried out five years in the future by a fictional new alliance of anti-American organizations that included anti-globalization hackers. The most serious damage was expected to be inflicted in the closing hours of the war game Thursday.

The national security simulation was significant because its premise - a devastating cyberattack that affects government and parts of the economy on the scale of the 2001 suicide hijackings - contradicts assurances by U.S. counterterrorism experts that such effects from a cyberattack are highly unlikely.
Peh. Who needs "Cyber Terror" when you can build a nice little EMP Bomb out of conventional explosives, capacitors & copper wire that will PERMENANTLY shut down any non-hardened electronics....
Tactical Grace
07-06-2005, 23:03
A good place to start the war against cyberterror is the HQ of Microsoft.

Every time you write shit software, you aid a terrorist.
Tactical Grace
07-06-2005, 23:04
Peh. Who needs "Cyber Terror" when you can build a nice little EMP Bomb out of conventional explosives, capacitors & copper wire that will PERMENANTLY shut down any non-hardened electronics....
Double-meh, who needs to mess about with electromagnetic field theory when you can just dump a load of milled graphite onto a bulk supply point?

*Activates tehrrist alarm somewhere*
CthulhuFhtagn
07-06-2005, 23:45
Double-meh, who needs to mess about with electromagnetic field theory when you can just dump a load of milled graphite onto a bulk supply point?

*Activates tehrrist alarm somewhere*
Triple-meh. Why go to all that trouble when you can accomplish the same thing with a lead pipe and a couple of minutes of spare time?
Evil Arch Conservative
07-06-2005, 23:59
Question: how are they going to mainpulate individual minds and individual panic attacks and individual thoughs and individual abilities with an online program?

The Wall Street Journal, as well as every other news source in the world, does it every day. Bad news makes the stock market weak (news about an individual stock can compel people to buy or sell it), and the stock market is the thermometer of the financial sector. The financial sector is probably one of the primary targets of cyber-terrorism.

Look at what happened to the stock market after 9/11. That was a terrorist attack. A wide scale 'attack' on computers could be hailed as a terrorist attack for sure. I'm sure the results would be comparable.

Does that answer the question?
Tactical Grace
08-06-2005, 00:09
Triple-meh. Why go to all that trouble when you can accomplish the same thing with a lead pipe and a couple of minutes of spare time?
Because a lead pipe isn't going to do anything to a BSP that can't be fixed in a day. It's just as futile as EMP. The charge that fires the core through the solenoid is probably going to do the same sort of damage. Waste of time.

Nope, NATO air forces over Serbia showed the way to go. Not too crude, not too ambitious.
OceanDrive
08-06-2005, 00:34
me thinks that the reason of these simulations (war games)...is to Play the devils advocate...

what would you do if you are AQ? what would do you do if you are Ossama?

where and how would you strike America?

someone college study showed that... a bio attack on our milk supply would be extremely efficient...and very accessible

what do you all think?
Tactical Grace
08-06-2005, 00:54
I think a lot of these studies are conducted in good faith by scientists who have their country's interests at heart, and then their release is managed by the (political) powers that be, with an aim to intimidating the population and reminding them that They Are Not Safe, and unless they keep supporting the wars, Little Timmy could get his milk poisoned by a black man.

Cynical? Damn right.

There's always a whole bunch of feasibility studies conducted for security purposes, and you never hear about them, even the public domain ones, because they are incredibly boring. But obviously some can strike a chord with the public, and those who play politics would be fools not to take advantage. So you get someone to draw attention to something obscure that would never have seen the light of day otherwise (I believe the milk thing was on a passworded section of an academic pre-print server), create a controversy (how dare they publish this?!) and bingo, the lowest-common-denominator media man is asking "They want to poison our children?"

Smoothly done. It's not the science guys doing the studies that are being reckless with security, it's the politics guys publishing the details in order to score points.
Dashir
08-06-2005, 00:55
Boy, I sure am glad there are studies out there that release America's weakpoints to the public! I tell you what, the news isn't interesting if it doesn't tell me how to wipe out 1/3 of America's population all at once.

hmph, that is bull. Shite like that shouldn't be allowed to be released because it can pose a potential threat to America's safety. Knowing that my next drink of milk might kill me is bad enough, but knowing that anyone and everyone may know that about my milk just is absurd and freakin' creepy.
Dashir
08-06-2005, 00:58
Smoothly done. It's not the science guys doing the studies that are being reckless with security, it's the politics guys publishing the details in order to score points.

very good point. Very good.
The Lightning Star
08-06-2005, 00:59
E-gads!

We must switch all of our computers over to Linux! Even though our games will never work again ( :( ), Microsoft is basically a big sign that says "H4x0rz H3r3z0rz l0l0l0l0l0l0l0l0l0l0l0l !!!!1!!!111!!1111omfg!11!!!"
Colodia
08-06-2005, 00:59
Ahh! Fool the terrorists!

We love Major League Soccer!
European Union is awesome!
We use the metric system!
We spell it "colour"
uh...etc. etc. :D


Might as well hand the terrorists a rock, put him on a helicopter over the White House, and tell him exactly where the President sits and how thin the roof really is.