NationStates Jolt Archive


Are we being watched?

Druidvale
27-05-2005, 14:32
Well, I've been strutting through my pile of 'to-read' articles all week, and I've come across some review of a book (which I will not name by the title) and several articles (in magazines and newspapers I won't name) that explain how certain political powers (which I will not name) and certain politicians and otherwise economically and socially influensive people in high places (which, again, I will not name) seem to use certain governmental apparatuses (which I will not name, but they are three-letter words, and one longer word that ends with "ecret service") to "monitor and process" all kinds of internet-based logs and forums that discuss (inter)national politics, to single out and identify "subversives" and "upstarts" which might pose a threat to "the proud American society" (read: the conservative parts of the American government).
Now, seeing as I've went into a (minor) clash with several of the more conservative parts of this forum, and because I'm European (you know, that bunch of land that is sometimes deemed as "the enemy of the free American world"), and because I'm a member of this "democratic communist party" we have on this forum (the C-word? You're a dead mean!) and seeing as this forum wildly discusses political and social topics, and seeing as how "the powers" monitor similar forums... are we being watched? Would the covert operatives please be so nice as to identify themselves? Should I be worried?

PS And if you so would decide to "fix me", please don't hurt my animals - they're all orphans I take care of, they have nothing to do with my obvious ignorance and "blatant hatred" of your fool-proof society, and are completely harmless even if left to their own devices. Oh, and I would like my ashes to be distributed over the North-Sea.
Jeruselem
27-05-2005, 14:34
I'm sure there's some government computer watching our posts right now. ;)
Wurzelmania
27-05-2005, 14:37
Bugger! They noticed.

*runs*
Czardas
27-05-2005, 14:41
I'm sure there's some government computer watching our posts right now. ;)It's far more likely that one of the NSers is an FBI agent who monitors our posts for subversive activities. I wonder that the anti-Bush threads haven't all been locked or moved to Spam by now.

~Czardas, Supreme Ruler of the Universe
Kaledan
27-05-2005, 14:43
Yeah thats me. I guess that the gig is up.
Jeruselem
27-05-2005, 14:44
It's far more likely that one of the NSers is an FBI agent who monitors our posts for subversive activities. I wonder that the anti-Bush threads haven't all been locked or moved to Spam by now.

~Czardas, Supreme Ruler of the Universe

The Internet is be best place for dissent these days. No surprise.
Lesser Pacifica
27-05-2005, 14:47
It's far more likely that one of the NSers is an FBI agent who monitors our posts for subversive activities. I wonder that the anti-Bush threads haven't all been locked or moved to Spam by now.

~Czardas, Supreme Ruler of the Universe

Maybe he/she is... one of The Powers that Be!


Eh, I wouldn't be worried until members start posting stuff about military helicopters hovering around their house, or maybe "counter-terror" (Waffen SS) agents storming their workplace.
Druidvale
27-05-2005, 14:50
Yeah, now that you mention it - some suit came crashing in my class-room the other day, calling out to seek and capture "Urdidvale". So, guess it's lucky for me those dudes made a spelling error :p

No seriously. There HAS to be some agent on this NS-forum. Wonder who it might be...
Squixx
27-05-2005, 14:57
It wouldnt surprise me if that were the case. The American government is an omnipresent force not only within it's borders, but throughout the world. As it was mentioned earlier in this forum, the internet is a prime spot for dissention. The effect of such activity doesn't really pose a threat to "the American way of life", but we can bet that Big Brother will take interest in it anyways...
German Nightmare
27-05-2005, 14:58
Not that we haven't know this for years...

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/GermanNightmare/Imwatchingyou.jpg
Drunk commies reborn
27-05-2005, 15:09
It's far more likely that one of the NSers is an FBI agent who monitors our posts for subversive activities. I wonder that the anti-Bush threads haven't all been locked or moved to Spam by now.

~Czardas, Supreme Ruler of the Universe
But who's the FBI agent? Or isn't it more likely to be an NSA agent? That would be my guess. NSA is responsible for intercepting electronic communications world wide for US intelligence.
Patra Caesar
27-05-2005, 15:29
Some may think it's a little far fetched, but I think that they probably have programs running to search for people who search or type word combinations.
Drunk commies reborn
27-05-2005, 15:33
Some may think it's a little far fetched, but I think that they probably have programs running to search for people who search or type word combinations.
So if I type semtex and Strontium 90 someone will come knocking on my office door thinking I'm planning to build a dirty bomb?

Wait a second. I've got to see who's at the door.
Czardas
27-05-2005, 15:33
But who's the FBI agent? Or isn't it more likely to be an NSA agent? That would be my guess. NSA is responsible for intercepting electronic communications world wide for US intelligence.Yeah... and it has 'NS' in it ;)



Czardas (C): We are being watched. And you are the agent. *points at someone*

Random NSer (RN): Who, me?

C: Yes, you. NSers! Take him/her away!

*Random NSer is taken away protesting and shot. End of problem. Or not...* <cue scary music>

~Czardas, Supreme Ruler of the Universe
Bvimb VI
27-05-2005, 15:34
Youl´l never take me!! HaaaaaaaAAaaaa!!

*runs*

*blonk*
Czardas
27-05-2005, 15:34
Some may think it's a little far fetched, but I think that they probably have programs running to search for people who search or type word combinations.I'm almost certain they do based on stories concerning various friends of ours.

~Czardas, Supreme Ruler of the Universe
Czardas
27-05-2005, 15:36
Youl´l never take me!! HaaaaaaaAAaaaa!!

*runs*

*blonk*I wasn't talking to you. I was talking to..... *points at someone*.... them. *scary music buildup*

*blackout*


~Czardas, Supreme Ruler of the Universe
Hobabwe
27-05-2005, 15:42
ofcourse *they* are watching us !

<points at sig>

<puts tinfoil hat back on>
Eutrusca
27-05-2005, 15:52
Well, I've been strutting through my pile of 'to-read' articles all week, and I've come across some review of a book (which I will not name by the title) and several articles (in magazines and newspapers I won't name) that explain how certain political powers (which I will not name) and certain politicians and otherwise economically and socially influensive people in high places (which, again, I will not name) seem to use certain governmental apparatuses (which I will not name, but they are three-letter words, and one longer word that ends with "ecret service") to "monitor and process" all kinds of internet-based logs and forums that discuss (inter)national politics, to single out and identify "subversives" and "upstarts" which might pose a threat to "the proud American society" (read: the conservative parts of the American government).
Now, seeing as I've went into a (minor) clash with several of the more conservative parts of this forum, and because I'm European (you know, that bunch of land that is sometimes deemed as "the enemy of the free American world"), and because I'm a member of this "democratic communist party" we have on this forum (the C-word? You're a dead mean!) and seeing as this forum wildly discusses political and social topics, and seeing as how "the powers" monitor similar forums... are we being watched? Would the covert operatives please be so nice as to identify themselves? Should I be worried?

PS And if you so would decide to "fix me", please don't hurt my animals - they're all orphans I take care of, they have nothing to do with my obvious ignorance and "blatant hatred" of your fool-proof society, and are completely harmless even if left to their own devices. Oh, and I would like my ashes to be distributed over the North-Sea.
Can you say "rambling post" boys and girls? :)

Do you honestly think anyone monitoring this site is going to tell you who they are? Tsk.
Zaxon
27-05-2005, 16:01
I'm sure there's some government computer watching our posts right now. ;)


One word: Carnivore.

http://wired-vig.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,37503,00.html
The Noble Men
27-05-2005, 16:19
We probably are being monitored. But half heartidly. They probably have someone on their payrole looking at this right now. I would guess it would be a moderator, who could edit certain posts.
Drunk commies reborn
27-05-2005, 16:21
We probably are being monitored. But half heartidly. They probably have someone on their payrole looking at this right now. I would guess it would be a moderator, who could edit certain posts.
No way it would be a moderator. It would be a computer program that looks for keywords and copies posts containing them for analyst's review. It would be logged in such a way as to appear to be a lurker.
Czardas
27-05-2005, 16:22
We probably are being monitored. But half heartidly. They probably have someone on their payrole looking at this right now. I would guess it would be a moderator, who could edit certain posts.Or, of course, my MiniSec, Ministry of Security, which watches everyone to make sure they're not being subversives. Then the ThoPol (Thought Police)...er...removes all the subversives. Admirably simple, no?

~Czardas, Supreme Ruler of the Universe
The Noble Men
27-05-2005, 16:25
Or, of course, my MiniSec, Ministry of Security, which watches everyone to make sure they're not being subversives. Then the ThoPol (Thought Police)...er...removes all the subversives. Admirably simple, no?

~Czardas, Supreme Ruler of the Universe

If you want people to obey, you should just brainwash them from an early age. It's cheaper, and no-one complains.
Czardas
27-05-2005, 16:27
If you want people to obey, you should just brainwash them from an early age. It's cheaper, and no-one complains.That's a great idea.

Unfortunately it's plagiarized from Orwell, and plagiarism is punishable by liquidation. :(

~Czardas, Supreme Ruler of the Universe
The Noble Men
27-05-2005, 16:34
That's a great idea.

Unfortunately it's plagiarized from Orwell, and plagiarism is punishable by liquidation. :(

~Czardas, Supreme Ruler of the Universe

Actually, I got it from Huxley. Orwell didn't brainwash everyone, just dissenters. Huxley brainwashed every child just after they were hatched.
Czardas
27-05-2005, 16:39
Actually, I got it from Huxley. Orwell didn't brainwash everyone, just dissenters. Huxley brainwashed every child just after they were hatched.
I don't care! It's still plagiarism!

*liquidates The Noble Men and all evidence of him/her is destroyed including gender, hence the pronoun*

~Czardas, Supreme Ruler of the Universe
The Noble Men
27-05-2005, 16:42
I don't care! It's still plagiarism!

*liquidates The Noble Men and all evidence of him/her is destroyed including gender, hence the pronoun*

~Czardas, Supreme Ruler of the Universe

*Turns to a big puddle of me before reforming like the guy from terminator 2*

Hi, I'm back. What I miss?
(mutter, mutter)
What do you mean, I don't exist anymore?
(mutter, mutter)
Ah well, at least they'll never find the large stockpiles of gold...
Wegason
27-05-2005, 16:45
its not FBI, more like CIA or NSA.
Druidvale
28-05-2005, 09:30
Can you say "rambling post" boys and girls? :)

Do you honestly think anyone monitoring this site is going to tell you who they are? Tsk.

Duh, of course they will... *sigh* Don't you know the government are always the good guys? Subterfuge would just be... evil. :rolleyes:

PS Just in case my sarcasm missed the spot - no, we don't.
Lord-General Drache
28-05-2005, 09:35
It's far more likely that one of the NSers is an FBI agent who monitors our posts for subversive activities. I wonder that the anti-Bush threads haven't all been locked or moved to Spam by now.

~Czardas, Supreme Ruler of the Universe

*Quietly walks up behind Czardas, and quickly wraps a garrote around his throat, using it with practiced efficiency, and lets his/her body slump to the floor quietly, walking away with a professional calm, shaking head* That one knew too much.

;)
Blessed Assurance
28-05-2005, 09:57
I believe druidvale is the (Watcher) and he is trying to guage our awareness. He's probably recieving shortwave radio code right now instructing him what to type.
Druidvale
28-05-2005, 10:13
I believe druidvale is the (Watcher) and he is trying to guage our awareness. He's probably recieving shortwave radio code right now instructing him what to type.

To quote Darwin on this: "I'm just here to observe." :p
The Noble Men
28-05-2005, 10:23
I believe druidvale is the (Watcher) and he is trying to guage our awareness. He's probably recieving shortwave radio code right now instructing him what to type.

I had a suspicion I lived near him. Those radio transmittions always interfere with the Archers on a Friday night!
Mircosis
28-05-2005, 10:29
If were being watched I have only one thing to say to the watchers


:upyours: :upyours: :upyours: :upyours: :upyours: :upyours:
Mircosis
28-05-2005, 10:31
Crap my phones ringing ....it wasnt me okay , woo hoo Go Team America , go George
BackwoodsSquatches
28-05-2005, 10:31
If you want people to obey, you should just brainwash them from an early age. It's cheaper, and no-one complains.


We have those already.

We call them Christians.
The Noble Men
28-05-2005, 10:35
We have those already.

We call them Christians.

There is a term for my response. I belive it is "ROTFLMAO", or "Rolling On The Floor Laughing My Arse Off."
South Osettia
28-05-2005, 11:04
I think we're being watched, but then again I'm medically paranoid.
The Noble Men
28-05-2005, 11:05
I think we're being watched, but then again I'm medically paranoid.

Oh, you're not paranoid. I really am after your kidneys.
Celticium
28-05-2005, 11:35
You're all wrong. The secret agent is, in fact, the person who placed the original post.

He/she expertly kept the identities of these three-letter organisations secret because he/she works for one of them and wanted a way to gauge how seriously people take the thought of him/her watching them.

Well, maybe. ;)
Zaxon
28-05-2005, 16:20
We have those already.

We call them Christians.

We also call them government sponsored schools.
Ashmoria
28-05-2005, 16:29
Well, I've been strutting through my pile of 'to-read' articles all week, and I've come across some review of a book (which I will not name by the title) and several articles (in magazines and newspapers I won't name) that explain how certain political powers (which I will not name) and certain politicians and otherwise economically and socially influensive people in high places (which, again, I will not name) seem to use certain governmental apparatuses (which I will not name, but they are three-letter words, and one longer word that ends with "ecret service") to "monitor and process" all kinds of internet-based logs and forums that discuss (inter)national politics, to single out and identify "subversives" and "upstarts" which might pose a threat to "the proud American society" (read: the conservative parts of the American government).
Now, seeing as I've went into a (minor) clash with several of the more conservative parts of this forum, and because I'm European (you know, that bunch of land that is sometimes deemed as "the enemy of the free American world"), and because I'm a member of this "democratic communist party" we have on this forum (the C-word? You're a dead mean!) and seeing as this forum wildly discusses political and social topics, and seeing as how "the powers" monitor similar forums... are we being watched? Would the covert operatives please be so nice as to identify themselves? Should I be worried?

PS And if you so would decide to "fix me", please don't hurt my animals - they're all orphans I take care of, they have nothing to do with my obvious ignorance and "blatant hatred" of your fool-proof society, and are completely harmless even if left to their own devices. Oh, and I would like my ashes to be distributed over the North-Sea.
you are SOOOOO lucky

everything you read is TRUE, however, and im not joking, due to budget considerations they have to pick and choose who to follow.

since 9/11 we are only interested in islamic extremists. we dont give a damn about communists anymore. we dont have the budget for it.

so as long as you havent posted any pro-terrorist or anti-israel posts, you are fine.

the guy who started the "lets make 9/11 an international holiday" thread hasnt been heard of since. (yeah that part was joking)
Utracia
28-05-2005, 16:30
With increased technology it makes it easier for government to watch us. Need to take bad with good so we'll just have to deal I guess.
Divine Imaginary Fluff
28-05-2005, 16:33
Do you honestly think anyone monitoring this site is going to tell you who they are? Tsk.It... it's... you, isn't it? It is, isn't it? Oh my Fluff, it really is! Aaaaaaahhh!!11!!1!!!!!!1 *runs away screaming while flapping his arms*
Concremo
28-05-2005, 16:35
if a registered member was watching as a forum lurker, then its very simple to find out who. simply get the moderators to do an IP search on everyone, and whoever has the hidden IP (because i'm pretty sure they dont want you to know) is the agent.
Druidvale
28-05-2005, 16:44
if a registered member was watching as a forum lurker, then its very simple to find out who. simply get the moderators to do an IP search on everyone, and whoever has the hidden IP (because i'm pretty sure they dont want you to know) is the agent.
Unless... that's what "they" WANT you to think, and "they" have hidden the IP of some innocent person (for instance, Eutrusca :p ) so we would suspect him... while he's not the actual agent... AAARGH! We're never gonna catch him!!! Or... is it a "she"... OMG! Noooooo! It's Ashmoria!!! She already kinda threatened me, or "implied", or whatever... *snif* I'm scared...
Ashmoria
28-05-2005, 16:53
Unless... that's what "they" WANT you to think, and "they" have hidden the IP of some innocent person (for instance, Eutrusca :p ) so we would suspect him... while he's not the actual agent... AAARGH! We're never gonna catch him!!! Or... is it a "she"... OMG! Noooooo! It's Ashmoria!!! She already kinda threatened me, or "implied", or whatever... *snif* I'm scared...
its already too late. better find homes for those cats
Santa Barbara
28-05-2005, 17:45
I'd like to paid full-time wages to play NS and look for subversive elements. I'd be good at it too, I know exactly which of you are traitors.
Drunk commies reborn
28-05-2005, 18:08
I'd like to paid full-time wages to play NS and look for subversive elements. I'd be good at it too, I know exactly which of you are traitors.
Who? Do you have a list?
Santa Barbara
28-05-2005, 18:11
Who? Do you have a list?

I'm not really at liberty to answer your question.
Drunk commies reborn
28-05-2005, 18:12
I'm not really at liberty to answer your question.
Come on, you can tell me. Use the ueber-secret white ink code if you don't want others to see it.
Concremo
28-05-2005, 18:12
secret agent: "instruct all your soldiers to shoot themselves in the foot so i can invade your nation, or else!"
random rper: "or else what, n00b!"

*apache gunship mows down rper*

now thats moderation!