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does this prove that the end is near?

BonePosse
27-05-2005, 02:06
An astronomer I was speaking to in an AOL chatroom saw this strange constellation in the sky

I saw a shepherd's crook with a star or planet in the middle of it and the moon with 2 planets forming an isoscles triangle last week

I checked with another astronomer friend and he said these havent appeared since Christ came to earth

he said it was a sign of an emerging Golden Age that only comes around once every 2,600 years--I asked him doesnt Armaggedon have to occur first and he said we're in the Armaggedon cycle right now and to take hope.He told me the cold weather in NY where Im at and in the nation is from a the dust from a comet that just past us by. Does anyone here know anything about astronomy or these occurence in the sky?
Bodies Without Organs
27-05-2005, 02:07
does this prove that the end is near?

No. Next question.
Lochiel
27-05-2005, 02:08
No one will know when the end is near.
Economic Associates
27-05-2005, 02:08
No. Next question.

What is he smoking and where can I get some?
BonePosse
27-05-2005, 02:09
No. Next question.
does it prove the start of a new golden age then?
CSW
27-05-2005, 02:10
does it prove the start of a new golden age then?
What was the old one?
BonePosse
27-05-2005, 02:10
No one will know when the end is near.
there are always signs if you can read them
Roach-Busters
27-05-2005, 02:10
We don't need proof that the end is near. :(
Lord-General Drache
27-05-2005, 02:10
An astronomer I was speaking to in an AOL chatroom saw this strange constellation in the sky




he said it was a sign of an emerging Golden Age that only comes around once every 2,600 years--I asked him doesnt Armaggedon have to occur first and he said we're in the Armaggedon cycle right now and to take hope.He told me the cold weather in NY where Im at and in the nation is from a the dust from a comet that just past us by. Does anyone here know anything about astronomy or these occurence in the sky?
Doesn't prove a thing. And I'm skeptical of any claiming to be anything in an AIM chatroom.
Neo-Anarchists
27-05-2005, 02:10
does it prove the start of a new golden age then?
No, not by a long stretch. There's nothing in astronomy about golden ages.
Trajdon
27-05-2005, 02:10
An astronomer who couldn't tell the difference between a star and a planet? I call bullshit.
Kervoskia
27-05-2005, 02:11
does it prove the start of a new golden age then?
No, don't get your hopes up.
Marmite Toast
27-05-2005, 02:11
If you want to know about "the end", look here: http://www.exitmundi.nl/exitmundi.htm
BonePosse
27-05-2005, 02:11
What is he smoking and where can I get some?
I get it delivered
BonePosse
27-05-2005, 02:13
What was the old one?
he said the name of the one thats in its ending cycle now-but I forgot it--it was in a strange language-Im gonna look for this guy again-His screename was Edgar 55 cacye or something to that effect.
Bolol
27-05-2005, 02:14
Since we really don't know precisely when Christ was born (December 25 was just a symbolic date chosen by Constantine. Read your Pagan history), this constilation, to me, means little.

Other than it's really, really cool...
BonePosse
27-05-2005, 02:15
Doesn't prove a thing. And I'm skeptical of any claiming to be anything in an AIM chatroom.
but are you one of those professional skeptics?
Lord-General Drache
27-05-2005, 02:15
Also, I should've added this: Dust from a comet would burn up when entering the atomosphere, if it's not scattered by the solar winds. The only way that dust can cause a climate change is if it's deliverered by the impact of meteorite slamming it the ground, forcing dust and other particles into the air. So, unless there was a strangely localized meteor event in New York, I'd say your friend doesn't have a clue what they're saying.
Sdaeriji
27-05-2005, 02:15
An astronomer I was speaking to in an AOL chatroom saw this strange constellation in the sky




he said it was a sign of an emerging Golden Age that only comes around once every 2,600 years--I asked him doesnt Armaggedon have to occur first and he said we're in the Armaggedon cycle right now and to take hope.He told me the cold weather in NY where Im at and in the nation is from a the dust from a comet that just past us by. Does anyone here know anything about astronomy or these occurence in the sky?

Can I buy some pot from you?
Maharlikana
27-05-2005, 02:15
It doesn't matter whether the end is near or not

What matter is are you READY for it or not.

Maharlikana
BonePosse
27-05-2005, 02:16
maybe another sign can be when Laura Bush caused a riot at the Al Aqua Mosque?
Lunatic Goofballs
27-05-2005, 02:18
AIEEEE!!! :eek: Lint in my belly button! It's one of the signs! *runs around in circles, arms waving* AIEEEE!!! AIEEEEE!!!
BonePosse
27-05-2005, 02:19
No, not by a long stretch. There's nothing in astronomy about golden ages.
it could be one of their dirty little secrets
kinda like exorcism is for the Catholic Church?
Trajdon
27-05-2005, 02:20
AIEEEE!!! :eek: Lint in my belly button! It's one of the signs! *runs around in circles, arms waving* AIEEEE!!! AIEEEEE!!!

Don't panic yet. Was the belly button lint grey or black? There's a huge difference. Grey minds the end is coming with the next 5 mintues. Black means within the next 10 billion years.
Bodies Without Organs
27-05-2005, 02:22
His screename was Edgar 55 cacye or something to that effect.

And the warning bells didn't start to ring at this?
BonePosse
27-05-2005, 02:22
An astronomer who couldn't tell the difference between a star and a planet? I call bullshit.
if I find him in tha chatroom again Ill try and get him to post here
Ftagn
27-05-2005, 02:22
You shouldn't believe what you hear in an AOL chatroom... Some anonymous guy who says he saw something isn't a credible source of information.
Lord-General Drache
27-05-2005, 02:22
but are you one of those professional skeptics?

Could you please rephrase that? Are you asking if I'm a skeptic of people's jobs, or a skeptic as a profession?
Patra Caesar
27-05-2005, 02:22
I think your chat friend is pulling your leg...
Lunatic Goofballs
27-05-2005, 02:23
Don't panic yet. Was the belly button lint grey or black? There's a huge difference. Grey minds the end is coming with the next 5 mintues. Black means within the next 10 billion years.

*stops panicking* Well it's... egad! It's kind of a purplish brown.
BonePosse
27-05-2005, 02:23
No, don't get your hopes up.
hope is what keeps us alive
Super-power
27-05-2005, 02:24
This coming from the guy who said, "Bush's ancestors caused the earth to shift on its axis by trying to direct a ray from the sun through a crystal to the centre of the earth"
BonePosse
27-05-2005, 02:24
If you want to know about "the end", look here: http://www.exitmundi.nl/exitmundi.htm
thanks

Ill check on it when I feel a higher level of hope
Bodies Without Organs
27-05-2005, 02:25
This coming from the guy who said, "Bush's ancestors caused the earth to shift on its axis by trying to direct a ray from the sun through a crystal to the centre of the earth"

BonePosse = TRA?
BonePosse
27-05-2005, 02:26
Since we really don't know precisely when Christ was born (December 25 was just a symbolic date chosen by Constantine. Read your Pagan history), this constilation, to me, means little.

Other than it's really, really cool...
Christ was born in January
Little Dongly Things
27-05-2005, 02:27
I saw a picture in the paper the other week of a cloud resembling the cross. I think this means that the Romans are coming. Constant vigilance, people.
Trajdon
27-05-2005, 02:27
*stops panicking* Well it's... egad! It's kind of a purplish brown.

That's fine. You've got nothing to worry about. Purplish brown lint means the end occured last week. We're all dead now and the Golden Age of the Cockroaches is upon the Earth.
BonePosse
27-05-2005, 02:28
Also, I should've added this: Dust from a comet would burn up when entering the atomosphere, if it's not scattered by the solar winds. The only way that dust can cause a climate change is if it's deliverered by the impact of meteorite slamming it the ground, forcing dust and other particles into the air. So, unless there was a strangely localized meteor event in New York, I'd say your friend doesn't have a clue what they're saying.
hes just someone in a chatroom who kept directing everything he said at me--I have no idea who he is
Lord-General Drache
27-05-2005, 02:28
hes just someone in a chatroom who kept directing everything he said at me--I have no idea who he is

I believe you stated it was your friend who said this, not the one from the chat room.
BonePosse
27-05-2005, 02:29
Can I buy some pot from you?
pot is a healing herb that allows us to communicate with higher states of awareness
Iztatepopotla
27-05-2005, 02:30
Also, I should've added this: Dust from a comet would burn up when entering the atomosphere, if it's not scattered by the solar winds. The only way that dust can cause a climate change is if it's deliverered by the impact of meteorite slamming it the ground, forcing dust and other particles into the air. So, unless there was a strangely localized meteor event in New York, I'd say your friend doesn't have a clue what they're saying.
And it would have to be one heck of a lot of dust. Not even when Earth went through the cauda of Halley's comet was there any appreciable change.
Ashmoria
27-05-2005, 02:30
you gotta toughen up if you are going to survive being on the net. there are both flat out nutz and those who enjoy freaking people out no matter what the cost.
BonePosse
27-05-2005, 02:31
It doesn't matter whether the end is near or not

What matter is are you READY for it or not.

Maharlikana
is anyone ever really ready for such a thing? :(
BonePosse
27-05-2005, 02:32
AIEEEE!!! :eek: Lint in my belly button! It's one of the signs! *runs around in circles, arms waving* AIEEEE!!! AIEEEEE!!!
no--that was prolly always there and you just noticed it now
Bodies Without Organs
27-05-2005, 02:32
pot is a healing herb that allows us to communicate with higher states of awareness

different != higher
Super-power
27-05-2005, 02:32
BonePosse = TRA?
TRA = MKULTRA = Skapedroe = ShadyFiend = BonePosse
BonePosse
27-05-2005, 02:33
And the warning bells didn't start to ring at this?
???
Bodies Without Organs
27-05-2005, 02:34
???

Edgar Cayce: fraudulent mystic and marketer of the paranormal.
BonePosse
27-05-2005, 02:34
You shouldn't believe what you hear in an AOL chatroom... Some anonymous guy who says he saw something isn't a credible source of information.
but your anonymous too?
Bodies Without Organs
27-05-2005, 02:36
TRA = MKULTRA = Skapedroe = ShadyFiend = BonePosse

That makes sense, I missed this latest reincarnation. Always did have a problem with gullibility, didn't he?
BonePosse
27-05-2005, 02:36
Could you please rephrase that? Are you asking if I'm a skeptic of people's jobs, or a skeptic as a profession?
one of those people who disbelieves everything?
GoodThoughts
27-05-2005, 02:36
An astronomer I was speaking to in an AOL chatroom saw this strange constellation in the sky




he said it was a sign of an emerging Golden Age that only comes around once every 2,600 years--I asked him doesnt Armaggedon have to occur first and he said we're in the Armaggedon cycle right now and to take hope.He told me the cold weather in NY where Im at and in the nation is from a the dust from a comet that just past us by. Does anyone here know anything about astronomy or these occurence in the sky?

Armaggedon can also be considered the spiritual battle that all people must fight when a new Messenager of God brings the latest message. In this case it is the Teachings of Baha'u'llah, who first announced His Mission publicly in 1863. Before Him was His forerunner the Bab, or Gate, in 1844.
Trajdon
27-05-2005, 02:37
but your anonymous too?

Exactly. It means do your own research.
BonePosse
27-05-2005, 02:37
This coming from the guy who said, "Bush's ancestors caused the earth to shift on its axis by trying to direct a ray from the sun through a crystal to the centre of the earth"
deep down you know its true
BonePosse
27-05-2005, 02:39
I saw a picture in the paper the other week of a cloud resembling the cross. I think this means that the Romans are coming. Constant vigilance, people.
romans at least didnt demonize fun
BonePosse
27-05-2005, 02:42
I believe you stated it was your friend who said this, not the one from the chat room.
thats how he kept referring to me and I didnt know him--is it possible that someone can be hypnotized online? Cause its not like me to call strangers friends and I cant account for me using that word at all
Lord-General Drache
27-05-2005, 02:42
one of those people who disbelieves everything?

Not at all. I'm very open minded, but I am skeptic of people in chatrooms spouting beliefs about Armageddon and the like. I've not heard a single reference to this "formation" that's supposed to happen. There's a planetary alignment that hasn't happened for thousands of years, and isn't likely to till 2287 or beyond, if I recall correctly. I doubt that was what this person was referring to, though.

thats how he kept referring to me and I didnt know him--is it possible that someone can be hypnotized online? Cause its not like me to call strangers friends and I cant account for me using that word at all

Hypnosis is a highly debated phenoma. I personally believe the person undergoing it must be one whose mind is susceptible to sublte suggestions. However, I firmly believe it is NOT possible to undergo such on the 'net. If he was calling you that, then why did you refer to him as such?
Iztatepopotla
27-05-2005, 02:43
he said it was a sign of an emerging Golden Age that only comes around once every 2,600 years
He must have been referring to the Age of Aquarius. The sun changes position in the sky very slowly, and the spring equinox happens at a different constellation about every 2600 years. It's known as precession. You may want to google 'Earth's orbit precession'.

This has been known by astrologers for millenia and has been the basis for countless predictions and what not. No scientific basis, of course.

There has been no comet near Earth in a good while. And even if there had been, it wouldn't have had much effect, much less so localized.
BonePosse
27-05-2005, 02:43
you gotta toughen up if you are going to survive being on the net. there are both flat out nutz and those who enjoy freaking people out no matter what the cost.
I always try to keep an open mind cause you never know who your speaking to
Super-power
27-05-2005, 02:43
deep down you know its true
Actually, science has shown us that the axial tilt is what helps to sustain life on earth...
Lord-General Drache
27-05-2005, 02:46
He must have been referring to the Age of Aquarius. The sun changes position in the sky very slowly, and the spring equinox happens at a different constellation about every 2600 years. It's known as precession. You may want to google 'Earth's orbit precession'.

This has been known by astrologers for millenia and has been the basis for countless predictions and what not. No scientific basis, of course.

There has been no comet near Earth in a good while. And even if there had been, it wouldn't have had much effect, much less so localized.

Ah..wasn't aware that was due any time soon. But that still leaves out the explaination for this formation of an isoscoles triangle.
BonePosse
27-05-2005, 02:46
TRA = MKULTRA = Skapedroe = ShadyFiend = BonePosse
you should be aware this place has mods who are always watching us
BonePosse
27-05-2005, 02:48
Edgar Cayce: fraudulent mystic and marketer of the paranormal.
what made him fraudulent?
Lord-General Drache
27-05-2005, 02:49
you should be aware this place has mods who are always watching us

How is this a bad thing?
BonePosse
27-05-2005, 02:49
Armaggedon can also be considered the spiritual battle that all people must fight when a new Messenager of God brings the latest message. In this case it is the Teachings of Baha'u'llah, who first announced His Mission publicly in 1863. Before Him was His forerunner the Bab, or Gate, in 1844.
you sound like him
Trajdon
27-05-2005, 02:51
I always try to keep an open mind cause you never know who your speaking to

That's no reason to accept everything you're told at face value. Do a little research, look up the credentials of those making claims, etc.

I've had to fail a student because his report was based completely on pseudo-science sources that could not back up their claims.

A little research goes a long way in distancing yourself from the term "gullible"

Edit: what made him fraudulent?

You're asking this question while you're on the net. It's not too difficult to open up Google in another tab or window and do a little research yourself.
BonePosse
27-05-2005, 02:52
Not at all. I'm very open minded, but I am skeptic of people in chatrooms spouting beliefs about Armageddon and the like. I've not heard a single reference to this "formation" that's supposed to happen. There's a planetary alignment that hasn't happened for thousands of years, and isn't likely to till 2287 or beyond, if I recall correctly. I doubt that was what this person was referring to, though.



Hypnosis is a highly debated phenoma. I personally believe the person undergoing it must be one whose mind is susceptible to sublte suggestions. However, I firmly believe it is NOT possible to undergo such on the 'net. If he was calling you that, then why did you refer to him as such?
I was thinking maybe he put some kind of subliminal hypotic hook in my mind--professional hypnotics can do that
Iztatepopotla
27-05-2005, 02:52
Ah..wasn't aware that was due any time soon. But that still leaves out the explaination for this formation of an isoscoles triangle.
Well, the triangle part is bull. Look hard enough in the sky tonight (preferably in a dark place where you can see a lot of stars) and you'll find a lot of isosceles triangles. And right ones, too.
BonePosse
27-05-2005, 02:53
Exactly. It means do your own research.
im afraid that too closely resembles work
Lord-General Drache
27-05-2005, 02:53
Well, the triangle part is bull. Look hard enough in the sky tonight (preferably in a dark place where you can see a lot of stars) and you'll find a lot of isosceles triangles. And right ones, too.

And equilateral. Don't leave those out. *nods* When is the precession due for?
Bodies Without Organs
27-05-2005, 02:54
what made him fraudulent?

The impossibility of communicating with the dead, amongst other things.
Trajdon
27-05-2005, 02:55
Well, the triangle part is bull. Look hard enough in the sky tonight (preferably in a dark place where you can see a lot of stars) and you'll find a lot of isosceles triangles. And right ones, too.

And don't forget the Dreaded Equilateral Triangle of Doom (tm) formed at one apex by Betelgeuse.
BonePosse
27-05-2005, 02:55
He must have been referring to the Age of Aquarius. The sun changes position in the sky very slowly, and the spring equinox happens at a different constellation about every 2600 years. It's known as precession. You may want to google 'Earth's orbit precession'.

This has been known by astrologers for millenia and has been the basis for countless predictions and what not. No scientific basis, of course.

There has been no comet near Earth in a good while. And even if there had been, it wouldn't have had much effect, much less so localized.
is there one on the way?
BonePosse
27-05-2005, 02:57
Actually, science has shown us that the axial tilt is what helps to sustain life on earth...
but while it was in the process of tilting it sunk Atlantis
Super-power
27-05-2005, 02:57
im afraid that too closely resembles work
Wow, what a lazy slacker you are
BonePosse
27-05-2005, 02:58
How is this a bad thing?
you must be new
Lord-General Drache
27-05-2005, 02:59
And don't forget the Dreaded Equilateral Triangle of Doom (tm) formed at one apex by Betelgeuse.

Don't forget, Ford Prefect was born somewhere in the vacinity of Betelgeuse. Therefore, since the creation of Ford was by Douglas Adams, he is therefore god.

BonePosse, failure to do your own work means that you will not advance in life, and failure to do your own research means that you will learn ultimately nothing. A person who spends his life learning nothing is one who has lived a wasted life. The pursuit of knowledge, in my opinion, is the most honourable and noble goal a person can have.
Trajdon
27-05-2005, 02:59
but while it was in the process of tilting it sunk Atlantis

The volcanic eruption of the island of Thera caused the destruction of Atlantis. The remains of the island are now called Santorini. The Earth's axis hasn't tilted in the last couple billion years, let alone 6000 years ago.
BonePosse
27-05-2005, 02:59
That's no reason to accept everything you're told at face value. Do a little research, look up the credentials of those making claims, etc.

I've had to fail a student because his report was based completely on pseudo-science sources that could not back up their claims.

A little research goes a long way in distancing yourself from the term "gullible"

Edit:

You're asking this question while you're on the net. It's not too difficult to open up Google in another tab or window and do a little research yourself.
so is Nostradamus false too?
BonePosse
27-05-2005, 03:01
Well, the triangle part is bull. Look hard enough in the sky tonight (preferably in a dark place where you can see a lot of stars) and you'll find a lot of isosceles triangles. And right ones, too.
do you have a pic of one?
Lord-General Drache
27-05-2005, 03:01
you must be new

*points to profile*No, I've been here for a little over a year. I don't have any problems with the mods.
Trajdon
27-05-2005, 03:02
so is Nostradamus false too?

Of course. That quack predicted the date of his death and then had the nerve to die a little more than a year later.

Also, his quatrains are so vague as to be laughable. During the second world war, both the Axis and the Allies used the exact same quatrain to claim victory for their respective sides. Last time I checked, if it predicted one side's victory, the other side had to lose. Both cannot win.
Niccolo Medici
27-05-2005, 03:03
The volcanic eruption of the island of Thera caused the destruction of Atlantis. The remains of the island are now called Santorini. The Earth's axis hasn't tilted in the last couple billion years, let alone 6000 years ago.

Last I checked, the Atlantis mythos was literally created ex nihlo by Plato, he was starting a parable or a story. He never finished the story, and people have spent the last two thousand years or so trying to finish it for him.
Deleuze
27-05-2005, 03:03
The volcanic eruption of the island of Thera caused the destruction of Atlantis. The remains of the island are now called Santorini. The Earth's axis hasn't tilted in the last couple billion years, let alone 6000 years ago.
I assume you mean gravitational axis. The Earth's magnetic axis changes every 600 million years, or so.

The rest of your post deserves the big ol' ignore button.
BonePosse
27-05-2005, 03:03
The impossibility of communicating with the dead, amongst other things.
people speak to the dead all the time on TV--dont you watch that show (I forgot the name of it)
Also theres a famous psychic (George Anderson) that my cousin went to and he spoke to his dead mother who gave him dead-on advice
BonePosse
27-05-2005, 03:05
Wow, what a lazy slacker you are
I truely am--I even worse then the Bush twins in that area
BonePosse
27-05-2005, 03:06
The volcanic eruption of the island of Thera caused the destruction of Atlantis. The remains of the island are now called Santorini. The Earth's axis hasn't tilted in the last couple billion years, let alone 6000 years ago.
all it takes is one wayward comet
Trajdon
27-05-2005, 03:09
Last I checked, the Atlantis mythos was literally created ex nihlo by Plato, he was starting a parable or a story. He never finished the story, and people have spent the last two thousand years or so trying to finish it for him.

Many archaeologists now believe that Plata was romanticizing the Minoan Civilization that happened to have a trading outpost on the island of Thera. The Minoans were pretty advanced compared to other Mediterranean civilizations at the time.

Of course, by advanced, I don't mean anything like the science fiction bullshit that popular media has portrayed in the last few decades.

Edit: all it takes is one wayward comet

All it takes is one wayward comet travelling at an extremely high velocity. The likes of which are not found in our solar system.
BonePosse
27-05-2005, 03:09
Of course. That quack predicted the date of his death and then had the nerve to die a little more than a year later.

Also, his quatrains are so vague as to be laughable. During the second world war, both the Axis and the Allies used the exact same quatrain to claim victory for their respective sides. Last time I checked, if it predicted one side's victory, the other side had to lose. Both cannot win.
well if your gonna predict the future its always better to be vague cause then people can use them to prove that theyre true
Iztatepopotla
27-05-2005, 03:10
And equilateral. Don't leave those out. *nods* When is the precession due for?
The change of sign? Depends who you ask. Astrologers say 2150 or so, according to tradition. For astronomers, who measure this things more carefully and define the boundaries for constellations different than astrologers, it's around 2660.

My astronomy program (Sky Travel for the C-64! Believe it or not!) seems to agree with the astronomers (duh!)
BonePosse
27-05-2005, 03:10
Last I checked, the Atlantis mythos was literally created ex nihlo by Plato, he was starting a parable or a story. He never finished the story, and people have spent the last two thousand years or so trying to finish it for him.
they found the road leading to Atlantis under the sea--there was also another continent called Lemuria
Economic Associates
27-05-2005, 03:12
they found the road leading to Atlantis under the sea--there was also another continent called Lemuria

:rolleyes:
BonePosse
27-05-2005, 03:12
Many archaeologists now believe that Plata was romanticizing the Minoan Civilization that happened to have a trading outpost on the island of Thera. The Minoans were pretty advanced compared to other Mediterranean civilizations at the time.

Of course, by advanced, I don't mean anything like the science fiction bullshit that popular media has portrayed in the last few decades.

Edit:

All it takes is one wayward comet travelling at an extremely high velocity. The likes of which are not found in our solar system.
ANYTHING is possible--we dont have a lock on reality
Economic Associates
27-05-2005, 03:13
ANYTHING is possible--we dont have a lock on reality

:headbang:
Iztatepopotla
27-05-2005, 03:14
is there one on the way?
Always. But none to come even close to Earth.

The Earth went through Halley's comet cauda in 1910 and absolutely nothing happened, not even because it took half the sky. Except for an impact there's nothing to fear from a comet.
Trajdon
27-05-2005, 03:15
ANYTHING is possible--we dont have a lock on reality

Just because something is possible doesn't make it probable. It is possible that I'll instantaneously transform into a five-tentacled disabled octopus wearing a purple hat with a green flower in stuck in it after I hit the submit button. But the probability of that happening is so low that it's not even worth considering.
Anikian
27-05-2005, 03:15
hehe.... not to scare you guys, but he is right that the end is coming. His signs are riduclously off, but he's right none theless. The Vogons will demolish your planet very soon. But the signs were there; all you had to do was go to your local galactic planning center and you would have known and had time to file a proper protest!
Iztatepopotla
27-05-2005, 03:16
do you have a pic of one?
Don't be lazy. Go out and check it out for yourself. Or go to some astronomy site, look at a map of the night sky and look for triangles there.
BonePosse
27-05-2005, 03:16
:rolleyes:
im not the only one who said that
Trajdon
27-05-2005, 03:17
hehe.... not to scare you guys, but he is right that the end is coming. His signs are riduclously off, but he's right none theless. The Vogons will demolish your planet very soon. But the signs were there; all you had to do was go to your local galactic planning center and you would have known and had time to file a proper protest!

It doesn't matter, the mice are nearly done with the calculation anyway. So what if the ultimate question who's answer is is 42 happens to be "what is 6X8?"
BonePosse
27-05-2005, 03:17
Just because something is possible doesn't make it probable. It is possible that I'll instantaneously transform into a five-tentacled disabled octopus wearing a purple hat with a green flower in stuck in it after I hit the submit button. But the probability of that happening is so low that it's not even worth considering.
only becuase you have no faith
Niccolo Medici
27-05-2005, 03:17
they found the road leading to Atlantis under the sea--there was also another continent called Lemuria

Try rephrasing that a bit. They found a road leading to a place that is now below sea level. Someone called it atlantis, but did the city have its name written down somewhere? Was there a map with a big red X on it? Nope...

Now then, WHY is it called Atlantis? Why isn't it just some trading post on an island? Some lighthouse or small city on the edge of a civilization? Atlantis is just a concept, a story, a description in a book filled with many other fictitous morality stories. Yet Atlantis is somehow real to many, so we find justifications of it wherever we can.
BonePosse
27-05-2005, 03:18
hehe.... not to scare you guys, but he is right that the end is coming. His signs are riduclously off, but he's right none theless. The Vogons will demolish your planet very soon. But the signs were there; all you had to do was go to your local galactic planning center and you would have known and had time to file a proper protest!
but we're not advanced enuf to destroy yet
Lord-General Drache
27-05-2005, 03:19
Just because something is possible doesn't make it probable. It is possible that I'll instantaneously transform into a five-tentacled disabled octopus wearing a purple hat with a green flower in stuck in it after I hit the submit button. But the probability of that happening is so low that it's not even worth considering.

You, sir/madam,are a skeptic. *waves tentacle at you* I think your mindset it too small. And if you get a hat, I'll trade you for the pink sombrero I got.

BonePosse, what you're referring to is subjective reality, which, in this case, seems to be more as an excuse/way out of being disproven.
Anikian
27-05-2005, 03:20
It doesn't matter, the mice are nearly done with the calculation anyway. So what if the ultimate question who's answer is is 42 happens to be "what is 6X8?"
It's 6x9, which IS 42, fool. It's base 13, but that's ok :p
BonePosse
27-05-2005, 03:20
Try rephrasing that a bit. They found a road leading to a place that is now below sea level. Someone called it atlantis, but did the city have its name written down somewhere? Was there a map with a big red X on it? Nope...

Now then, WHY is it called Atlantis? Why isn't it just some trading post on an island? Some lighthouse or small city on the edge of a civilization? Atlantis is just a concept, a story, a description in a book filled with many other fictitous morality stories. Yet Atlantis is somehow real to many, so we find justifications of it wherever we can.
maybe one day people will say that about Palestine but we all know that exists
Anikian
27-05-2005, 03:22
but we're not advanced enuf to destroy yet
Exactly, we aren't advanced, that's why OUR planet was chosen for the interstellar hyperspace bypass. Those things have to be built, you know - it's not their fault we didn't head over to Alpha Centauri and appeal to have it moved.
BonePosse
27-05-2005, 03:22
You, sir/madam,are a skeptic. *waves tentacle at you* I think your mindset it too small. And if you get a hat, I'll trade you for the pink sombrero I got.

BonePosse, what you're referring to is subjective reality, which, in this case, seems to be more as an excuse/way out of being disproven.
whatever works ;)
Anikian
27-05-2005, 03:23
maybe one day people will say that about Palestine but we all know that exists
Palestine is recorded in books meant to be history. Atlantis is recorded only by Plato, who was writing a story, and never intended for it to be a history. Or, perhaps, do you believe that JRR Tolkein's Middle-Earth is also real?
BonePosse
27-05-2005, 03:25
Exactly, we aren't advanced, that's why OUR planet was chosen for the interstellar hyperspace bypass. Those things have to be built, you know - it's not their fault we didn't head over to Alpha Centauri and appeal to have it moved.
I have that game too
Anikian
27-05-2005, 03:26
I have that game too
... I'm referring to Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, a book series, radio serial, and now recent movie, not a game (to the best of my knowledge, a game might exist).
BonePosse
27-05-2005, 03:26
Palestine is recorded in books meant to be history. Atlantis is recorded only by Plato, who was writing a story, and never intended for it to be a history. Or, perhaps, do you believe that JRR Tolkein's Middle-Earth is also real?
it depends-- if you only want to think of reality as being on one dimension which seems kind of arrogant to me
Pink Pantherism
27-05-2005, 03:27
well obviously the world is going to end in 76 hours, because if you add the number of days since feb.. 4th and then divide by the number of saints, subtract by the number of computers produced every year, that is the answer you get! THE END IS NEAR!... yes, thats about as believeable as this, and in a chat? that could be some crazy dude, that just makes this stuff up
Lord-General Drache
27-05-2005, 03:27
... I'm referring to Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, a book series, radio serial, and now recent movie, not a game (to the best of my knowledge, a game might exist).

There's a game called The Starship Titanic, based on the blurp from the series, and the book someone wrote for Adams on that blurp. He was referring to the game Alpha Centauri.
Iztatepopotla
27-05-2005, 03:31
... I'm referring to Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, a book series, radio serial, and now recent movie, not a game (to the best of my knowledge, a game might exist).
There's a game. It was published by Infocom in 1984, or 1985. You can play an adaptation on the web, though: http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/hitchhikers/game.shtml
Bodies Without Organs
27-05-2005, 03:32
... I'm referring to Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, a book series, radio serial, and now recent movie, not a game (to the best of my knowledge, a game might exist).

Two games of the series do exist: one put out by Infocom and co-written by Adams himself, the other only released for the Spectrum and C-64.


Oh, and by the way, although 6x9 is 42 in base 13, that is just coincidence.
Iztatepopotla
27-05-2005, 03:35
Oh, and by the way, although 6x9 is 42 in base 13, that is just coincidence.
Or... is it?
Anikian
27-05-2005, 03:36
it depends-- if you only want to think of reality as being on one dimension which seems kind of arrogant to me
First of all, don't call it another dimension, unless you are referring to 4-d space, which I doubt. Other planes/sphers of existance or universes is fine, but dimensions is terribly innacurate.

That aside, reality can be on multiple planes. But, with absolutely no knowledge of those alternates, we cannot make such an assumption about one - using a fictional book is hardly something we can take as indicative of the nature of another realm.
The Bolglands
27-05-2005, 03:44
Ahem, better question (though probably allready been asked) :

WHO CARES?!

the world ends, so what. We're all gonna die anyways, that will just make it be a lil sooner n you expected. And almost gauranteed, most of the virgin population (if the world were ending), would rather NOT die virgins (i myself could care less honestly), and that might condemn them in whatever religion they happen to follow. At anyrate, the stars aren't going to show you signs that we are all going to die..

unless of course, your talking about a hyper nova, at which point, we will all see a bright blue flash, not just the astronomers, and we will (for the most part) die rather suddenly of flash fire, followed by nuclear fire, followed by nuclear winter, so bad not ever ROACHES are likely to survive.


Edit: Douglas Adams is the penultimate authority on life, the Universe, and everything!

Sounds like fun doesn't it? ^_^

Good dreaming to you all.
Bodies Without Organs
27-05-2005, 03:49
Or... is it?

According to Douglas Adams, yes. Doesn't seem to be any better authority than that.
Niccolo Medici
27-05-2005, 22:19
maybe one day people will say that about Palestine but we all know that exists

**laughs** Now you're just being evasive. That gets you a 2 out of 10 for effort.

There's something called reasonable doubt or skepticism in this world; I'm sure you've heard of it. The body of evidence is not supportive of the Atlantis theory, and wishful thinking is not the glue that holds improbable theories together.

If you wish to declare yourself an Atlantis faithful, someone who's willing to look facts in the face and ignore them, be my guest.
Sheltered reality
27-05-2005, 22:37
REPENT!!! THE END IS NEAR!!!!!!!!!!! :mp5:
Haddess
27-05-2005, 22:47
REPENT!!! THE END IS NEAR!!!!!!!!!!! :mp5:
I REPENT!!!!!!! I REPENT FOR ALL MY SINS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :headbang:
Kryozerkia
27-05-2005, 22:47
No one will know when the end is near.
Sure we will.

If it's tomorrow in Austrialia, then the end is NOT near... (Don't mind my westerner logic).
BonePosse
28-05-2005, 04:22
well obviously the world is going to end in 76 hours, because if you add the number of days since feb.. 4th and then divide by the number of saints, subtract by the number of computers produced every year, that is the answer you get! THE END IS NEAR!... yes, thats about as believeable as this, and in a chat? that could be some crazy dude, that just makes this stuff up
yeah but what if its true
BonePosse
28-05-2005, 04:27
First of all, don't call it another dimension, unless you are referring to 4-d space, which I doubt. Other planes/sphers of existance or universes is fine, but dimensions is terribly innacurate.

That aside, reality can be on multiple planes. But, with absolutely no knowledge of those alternates, we cannot make such an assumption about one - using a fictional book is hardly something we can take as indicative of the nature of another realm.
whats the difference between a realm a sphere a plane and a dimension
BonePosse
28-05-2005, 04:30
Ahem, better question (though probably allready been asked) :

WHO CARES?!

the world ends, so what. We're all gonna die anyways, that will just make it be a lil sooner n you expected. And almost gauranteed, most of the virgin population (if the world were ending), would rather NOT die virgins (i myself could care less honestly), and that might condemn them in whatever religion they happen to follow. At anyrate, the stars aren't going to show you signs that we are all going to die..

unless of course, your talking about a hyper nova, at which point, we will all see a bright blue flash, not just the astronomers, and we will (for the most part) die rather suddenly of flash fire, followed by nuclear fire, followed by nuclear winter, so bad not ever ROACHES are likely to survive.


Edit: Douglas Adams is the penultimate authority on life, the Universe, and everything!

Sounds like fun doesn't it? ^_^

Good dreaming to you all.
I dont mind dying all that much now that I think about it I just dont want to know that its happening
BonePosse
28-05-2005, 04:44
**laughs** Now you're just being evasive. That gets you a 2 out of 10 for effort.

There's something called reasonable doubt or skepticism in this world; I'm sure you've heard of it. The body of evidence is not supportive of the Atlantis theory, and wishful thinking is not the glue that holds improbable theories together.

If you wish to declare yourself an Atlantis faithful, someone who's willing to look facts in the face and ignore them, be my guest.
there no proof that Atlantis didnt exist so we have to keep an open mind.
Everything exists unless proven otherwise
BonePosse
28-05-2005, 04:46
Sure we will.

If it's tomorrow in Austrialia, then the end is NOT near... (Don't mind my westerner logic).
but tomorrow never comes :)
Iztatepopotla
28-05-2005, 04:57
there no proof that Atlantis didnt exist so we have to keep an open mind.
Everything exists unless proven otherwise
In that case, the world has already ended, you're dead an all this is just a preparation for whatever's next.
BonePosse
28-05-2005, 07:33
In that case, the world has already ended, you're dead an all this is just a preparation for whatever's next.
that would be sweet
Niccolo Medici
28-05-2005, 07:45
there no proof that Atlantis didnt exist so we have to keep an open mind.
Everything exists unless proven otherwise

Wow. So how can one prove something conclusively doesn't exsist then?

We can't, can we? You can never actually be completely sure. I mean, even if it doesn't exist HERE it could exist on another planet, or another plane of existance for that matter.

So, in your words, everything actually does exist! Everything ever concieved, and by extension, that has not yet been conceieved, exsists! That's amazing. Its utterly illogical mind you, but amazing.

I guess I can't argue with you on that point. You've literally turned the debate over to gods and the infinite. A mere mortal like myself has no place dwelling on the affairs of such beings. :)

"It is easier to draw a demon than a man; since everyone knows what a man looks like."
-Lord Shang
BonePosse
28-05-2005, 08:29
Wow. So how can one prove something conclusively doesn't exsist then?

We can't, can we? You can never actually be completely sure. I mean, even if it doesn't exist HERE it could exist on another planet, or another plane of existance for that matter.

So, in your words, everything actually does exist! Everything ever concieved, and by extension, that has not yet been conceieved, exsists! That's amazing. Its utterly illogical mind you, but amazing.

I guess I can't argue with you on that point. You've literally turned the debate over to gods and the infinite. A mere mortal like myself has no place dwelling on the affairs of such beings. :)

"It is easier to draw a demon than a man; since everyone knows what a man looks like."
-Lord Shang
I dont think we can concieve of impossible things
I think our thoughts create reality--if you think and dream the same thing enought it becomes real
Niccolo Medici
28-05-2005, 08:39
I dont think we can concieve of impossible things
I think our thoughts create reality--if you think and dream the same thing enought it becomes real

Perhaps we are taking this down a different path. If you belive that Pink, polka-dotted Elephants who speak Latin while riding monocylcles but otherwise speak Chinese and Tango with a passion bordering on insanity, can exist in reality...we have other issues to discuss besides Atlantis.

We can concieve of things that perhaps ARE impossible, for example; we can conceieve of a man so powerful that he can turn the earth's rotation backwards. A man who gets his power from the sun, who can shoot lasers from his eyes and leap tall buildings with a single bound.

No such man exists. Our thoughts about such a Superlative induvidual don't effect that fact.
Iztatepopotla
28-05-2005, 18:40
By the way, BonePosse, you still owe me US$10,000. I'm waiting.
Greater Yubari
28-05-2005, 18:44
REPENT!!! THE END IS NEAR!!!!!!!!!!! :mp5:

Never.

And if the end is near? Who gives a shit? We all die one day, cope!
Culex
28-05-2005, 18:51
An astronomer I was speaking to in an AOL chatroom saw this strange constellation in the sky




he said it was a sign of an emerging Golden Age that only comes around once every 2,600 years--I asked him doesnt Armaggedon have to occur first and he said we're in the Armaggedon cycle right now and to take hope.He told me the cold weather in NY where Im at and in the nation is from a the dust from a comet that just past us by. Does anyone here know anything about astronomy or these occurence in the sky?
Well..not really...
As was aforementioned, no one will know exactly when the end is, but we can get a general idea.
I personally believe it will be soon, for there can only be one pope after Benedict XVI, the terrorists are so powerful at this time that it greatly corresponds with the bible, the tsunami, 9-11(even if it occurred 4 years ago), the war in Iraq, and if you look back over the last 50 years, it has not been that peaceful, this sign in the eavens does not prove anything but it is still a sign that the end is still near. So don't worry the end will come sooner or later, whether we are alive or not is a much bigger question...
BonePosse
29-05-2005, 09:21
Perhaps we are taking this down a different path. If you belive that Pink, polka-dotted Elephants who speak Latin while riding monocylcles but otherwise speak Chinese and Tango with a passion bordering on insanity, can exist in reality...we have other issues to discuss besides Atlantis.

We can concieve of things that perhaps ARE impossible, for example; we can conceieve of a man so powerful that he can turn the earth's rotation backwards. A man who gets his power from the sun, who can shoot lasers from his eyes and leap tall buildings with a single bound.

No such man exists. Our thoughts about such a Superlative induvidual don't effect that fact.
yes he exists--if you feed him with the energy of your thought patterns
our thoughts have etheareal bodies
BonePosse
29-05-2005, 09:23
By the way, BonePosse, you still owe me US$10,000. I'm waiting.
for what
BonePosse
29-05-2005, 09:24
Well..not really...
As was aforementioned, no one will know exactly when the end is, but we can get a general idea.
I personally believe it will be soon, for there can only be one pope after Benedict XVI, the terrorists are so powerful at this time that it greatly corresponds with the bible, the tsunami, 9-11(even if it occurred 4 years ago), the war in Iraq, and if you look back over the last 50 years, it has not been that peaceful, this sign in the eavens does not prove anything but it is still a sign that the end is still near. So don't worry the end will come sooner or later, whether we are alive or not is a much bigger question...
w'ell be alive--only our bodies die
Sheltered reality
16-06-2005, 22:31
Never.

And if the end is near? Who gives a shit? We all die one day, cope!
The end is still near, even if it's not in the form of the end of the world. You will die, and it will be soon(relatively) so you might as well repent for your sins now, eh? :mp5:
Eris Illuminated
16-06-2005, 22:38
An astronomer I was speaking to in an AOL chatroom saw this strange constellation in the sky




he said it was a sign of an emerging Golden Age that only comes around once every 2,600 years--I asked him doesnt Armaggedon have to occur first and he said we're in the Armaggedon cycle right now and to take hope.He told me the cold weather in NY where Im at and in the nation is from a the dust from a comet that just past us by. Does anyone here know anything about astronomy or these occurence in the sky?

What makes you think that he was an astronomer and not a nut bar, a practical joker, or a Discordian practicing Operation MF?
Colodia
16-06-2005, 22:40
I always thought Armageddon would be more mass-killing and less political bullshit.

EDIT: And of course, I know nothing of astronomy. Except that doesn't the Earth tilt on it's axis so that it wobbles and is only on the same position once every 2,000 or so years?