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who endangers his childrens and ultimately EVERY Americans future security because he is willing to manufacture fake intel and fires anyone who tries to reveal his lies. If John Bolton is confirmed its not only a reward for making up the WMD lies but it will also result in Bolton making up more lies out of thin air to justify another war for oil and nation building in yet another country futher destablizing the entire world and shooting terrorism levels thru the roof.This isnt just an American issue. Can the World afford to have this rabid dog in such a sensitive position as UN Ambassador especially when this deranged freak--( who chases women around hotels and forces all his wives into having group sex)--doesnt even believe the UN has a right to exist at all and arrogantly believes the US should act unilaterally as a global bully Empire

Republican George Voinovich choked back tears as he plead with his colleagues not to vote for Bolton. Voinovich said "I don't want to take the risk. I came back here and ran for a second term because I'm worried about my kids and my grandchildren. And I just hope my colleagues will take the time and... do some serious thinking about whether or not we should send John Bolton to the United Nations."

Red Arrow?

Red Arrow?
identity is an illusion

Interesting... source please?

Maharlikana

Interesting... source please?

Maharlikana
AOL chatrooms and the blogosphere

I've seen the video, Voinovich was near tears on the floor...

Congrats, you've made me IGNORE list BonePosse.

Red Arrow?

Heh, I had made that assumption a few weeks ago, though someone else was insisting that it wasn't the same person.

linky?

I just scanned a couple conservative blogs bitching about it......

if only someone had asked Bush what his source was for his WMD lie...

Congrats, you've made me IGNORE list BonePosse.
Oh, and I woulnd't dare support anybody BUT Bolton! Considering that I hate the bastion of corruption that is the UN, and having an openly anti-UN person is the next best thing to not being in the UN.
your ignoring me again?

I was watching C-SPAN and I can't recall the senator shedding a tear.

I was watching C-SPAN and I can't recall the senator shedding a tear.
voice quivering...

I was watching C-SPAN and I can't recall the senator shedding a tear.
he was choking them back--that means the tears were in his throat and he was crying thru his words

anyone gonna link a bitchy blog or something?

Congrats, you've made me IGNORE list BonePosse.
Oh, and I woulnd't dare support anybody BUT Bolton! Considering that I hate the bastion of corruption that is the UN, and having an openly anti-UN person is the next best thing to not being in the UN.

Bolton is no anti-UN person. Read on. (http://www.thenewamerican.com/artman/publish/article_1208.shtml)

voice quivering...
That would explain it. Well, he certainly is passionate, or extremely concerned.

Here's the C-SPAN link. (http://www.c-span.org/homepage.asp?Cat=Current_Event&Code=Congress&ShowVidNum=8&Rot_Cat_CD=Congress&Rot_HT=&Rot_WD=&ShowVidDays=365&ShowVidDesc=&ArchiveDays=30) It's currently the top video link--have to use Real Player--but watch it yourself if you doubt the veracity of the original poster.

Here's the C-SPAN link. (http://www.c-span.org/homepage.asp?Cat=Current_Event&Code=Congress&ShowVidNum=8&Rot_Cat_CD=Congress&Rot_HT=&Rot_WD=&ShowVidDays=365&ShowVidDesc=&ArchiveDays=30) It's currently the top video link--have to use Real Player--but watch it yourself if you doubt the veracity of the original poster.
thanks

Bolton is no anti-UN person. Read on. (http://www.thenewamerican.com/artman/publish/article_1208.shtml)
*sigh*
I guess we can throw the last of our soveriegnty to the wind now....

*sigh*
I guess we can throw the last of our soveriegnty to the wind now....

Yeah. :(

Thanks very much for the links,

Maharlikana

Here's the C-SPAN link. (http://www.c-span.org/homepage.asp?Cat=Current_Event&Code=Congress&ShowVidNum=8&Rot_Cat_CD=Congress&Rot_HT=&Rot_WD=&ShowVidDays=365&ShowVidDesc=&ArchiveDays=30) It's currently the top video link--have to use Real Player--but watch it yourself if you doubt the veracity of the original poster.

Dangit i can't get the rm file to work!

Thanks!

Are Republicans usually so dissenting? He sounds almost leftie at times,

If Bolton gets confirmed the rest of the world must cut off all diplomatic relations with the US or they will live to regret it when he starts WW3

Thanks!

Are Republicans usually so dissenting? He sounds almost leftie at times,
Bush is so extreme he'd make Hitler sound like a lefty

Bolton is no anti-UN person. Read on. (http://www.thenewamerican.com/artman/publish/article_1208.shtml)


And yet....

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/03/09/opinion/09wed1.html?ex=1268110800&en=2dd237b2e9c81d09&ei=5090&partner=rssuserland

And yet....

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/03/09/opinion/09wed1.html?ex=1268110800&en=2dd237b2e9c81d09&ei=5090&partner=rssuserland

And yet, the NY Times also believes Bush is anti-UN. Moreover, they're compulsive liars and complete morons.

And yet, the NY Times also believes Bush is anti-UN. Moreover, they're compulsive liars and complete morons.

:D

Ahh if a conservative says something; it's true?

Oh and I forgot Roach.

Your site listed the WashingtonTimes. Not exactly a stamp of credibility. ;)

And yet, the NY Times also believes Bush is anti-UN. Moreover, they're compulsive liars and complete morons.

Says he who linked to that pantheon of truth and objectivity, "The New American." :rolleyes:

:D

Ahh if a conservative says something; it's true?

I feel sorry for anyone who believes a magazine that, in the 1930s, covered up Stalin's atrocities in Ukraine (and the reporter, Walter Duranty, won a Pulitzer Prize- go figure). The same magazine that helped Castro come to power by only telling one side of the story. Every atrocity Batista committed was widely publicized. Every atrocity the communists committed was ignored entirely. Moreover, even though Castro had been a communist for many years (and the fact that many people, including Castro's ex-pilot, warned the American people he was a communist), the NY Times' Herbert Matthews continued to assure us he "wasn't a communist." The New York Times gave enormous coverage to the My Lai massacre- as well they should. However, they were strangely quiet when the Hue massacre took place (during that massacre, the communists killed several thousand people).

Says he who linked to that pantheon of truth and objectivity, "The New American." :rolleyes:

At least they don't cover up massacres like the New York Times. :rolleyes:

I feel sorry for anyone who believes a magazine that, in the 1930s, covered up Stalin's atrocities in Ukraine (and the reporter, Walter Duranty, won a Pulitzer Prize- go figure). The same magazine that helped Castro come to power by only telling one side of the story. Every atrocity Batista committed was widely publicized. Every atrocity the communists committed was ignored entirely. Moreover, even though Castro had been a communist for many years (and the fact that many people, including Castro's ex-pilot, warned the American people he was a communist), the NY Times' Herbert Matthews continued to assure us he "wasn't a communist." The New York Times gave enormous coverage to the My Lai massacre- as well they should. However, they were strangely quiet when the Hue massacre took place (during that massacre, the communists killed several thousand people).
Got anything that's not at least thirty years old? Probably not, because then you'd have to acknowledge the part the NY Times, particularly Judith Miller, played in being the cheerleaders in the runup to the Iraq War. Miller practically spouted Chalabi's BS word for word, no matter how ludicrous it was. What was that about the NY Times being a liberal rag again? Hmmmm?

Got anything that's not at least thirty years old? Probably not, because then you'd have to acknowledge the part the NY Times, particularly Judith Miller, played in being the cheerleaders in the runup to the Iraq War. Miller practically spouted Chalabi's BS word for word, no matter how ludicrous it was. What was that about the NY Times being a liberal rag again? Hmmmm?

How about in the 90's, when they deified Nelson Mandela?

Got anything that's not at least thirty years old? Probably not, because then you'd have to acknowledge the part the NY Times, particularly Judith Miller, played in being the cheerleaders in the runup to the Iraq War. Miller practically spouted Chalabi's BS word for word, no matter how ludicrous it was. What was that about the NY Times being a liberal rag again? Hmmmm?

I've never met a single conservative who supports the war in Iraq. Neoconservatives (who are liberals in conservative clothing) support it.

How about in the 90's, when they deified Nelson Mandela?
What's wrong with Mandela? He's no saint, but no revolutionary leader is, and he's certainly better than Botha was. Or Reagan, for that matter, who tried to veto a resolution that divested the US government of their South African holdings as a response to apartheid--a veto that was overturned, I might add, by a bipartisan majority. Not all Republicans are racists, after all. Just some.

Great senator. He talks a bit much, but he's very right. Bolton is an ass - he doesn't deserve becoming UN ambassador to the UN from the US. Actually, since the US so dislikes the UN, they might aswell leave and let the rest of the world use the UN properly without the biggest bully messing things up all the time. :p We just need to figure out the financial side of this arrangement...

What's wrong with Mandela? He's no saint, but no revolutionary leader is, and he's certainly better than Botha was. Or Reagan, for that matter, who tried to veto a resolution that divested the US government of their South African holdings as a response to apartheid--a veto that was overturned, I might add, by a bipartisan majority. Not all Republicans are racists, after all. Just some.

Mandela has very poor taste in friends.

I've never met a single conservative who supports the war in Iraq. Neoconservatives (who are liberals in conservative clothing) support it.
Oh no--you're not passing them off on us. Neocons and their cousins the theocons are all yours, buddy. They're not remotely liberal, no matter how much you try to distance yourself from them. They're all on you, bub.

Ein Deutscher']Great senator. He talks a bit much, but he's very right. Bolton is an ass - he doesn't deserve becoming UN ambassador to the UN from the US. Actually, since the US so dislikes the UN, they might aswell leave and let the rest of the world use the UN properly without the biggest bully messing things up all the time. :p We just need to figure out the financial side of this arrangement...

Since when did the US dislike the UN? Remember, it was Bush who got us back in UNESCO.

Oh no--you're not passing them off on us. Neocons and their cousins the theocons are all yours, buddy. They're not remotely liberal, no matter how much you try to distance yourself from them. They're all on you, bub.

We don't want 'em, either. They can be all by themselves. That way, we can team up and gang up on them. :D

Not all Republicans are racists, after all. Just some.

Ahh the legacy of the Dixicrats.

You beat me on the age comment and the Mandela comments. ;)

I feel sorry for anyone who believes a magazine that, in the 1930s, covered up Stalin's atrocities in Ukraine (and the reporter, Walter Duranty, won a Pulitzer Prize- go figure). The same magazine that helped Castro come to power by only telling one side of the story. Every atrocity Batista committed was widely publicized. Every atrocity the communists committed was ignored entirely. Moreover, even though Castro had been a communist for many years (and the fact that many people, including Castro's ex-pilot, warned the American people he was a communist), the NY Times' Herbert Matthews continued to assure us he "wasn't a communist." The New York Times gave enormous coverage to the My Lai massacre- as well they should. However, they were strangely quiet when the Hue massacre took place (during that massacre, the communists killed several thousand people).

Just wanted to add. Don't make assumptions my good friend. I only read them from time to time.

I tend to read the Washington Post more.

Just wanted to add. Don't make assumptions my good friend. I only read them from time to time.

I tend to read the Washington Post more.

Okay, gotcha.

At least they don't cover up massacres like the New York Times. :rolleyes:

Sure...

linky?

http://www.google.com/search?q=Voinovich++tears&sourceid=mozilla-search&start=0&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official

10200 pages for Voinovich tears.

Voinovich In Near-Tears Over Bolton

Regretful Bolton enabler George Voinovich (R - OH) got very emotional today while urging his colleagues to reject the man he helped get out of committee. For a moment, it almost seemed worthy of an E! channel reenactment. — GREG BEATO

video: http://www.crooksandliars.com/2005/05/25.html#a3111

I'm smelling a return of TRA/MKULTRA

Bush is so extreme he'd make Hitler sound like a lefty

It's really nice how all of your statements are so realistic. They aren't exaggerated at all [/sarcasm]

Would any Americans here actually be glad or would want to see the UN move residence away from the US? Seriously?

Would it be like the 'send it back' campaign to send the Statue of Liberty back to France? :p

Would any Americans here actually be glad or would want to see the UN move residence away from the US? Seriously?

Would it be like the 'send it back' campaign to send the Statue of Liberty back to France? :p
Very Good question...

I love George V

Eric Fingerhut (thats his actual name haha) the guy he was running against didn't even come close to beating V. Fingerhut even did a walk across Ohio where he walked all the way across Ohio on foot to promote his campagin and he still lost

Worked on his campagin with some other young ohio republicans and went to one of his Octember fest parties. Free beer and free food!

Heh, I had made that assumption a few weeks ago, though someone else was insisting that it wasn't the same person.
Nah, it's Agent Smith.
;)

I've never met a single conservative who supports the war in Iraq. Neoconservatives (who are liberals in conservative clothing) support it.Bush and a majority of the U.S. Senate is liberal? Okay, I'm going to have to go ahead and disagree with you on that one.

Interesting... source please?

Maharlikana

I actually saw this on TV. I wouldn't say that he was crying, but he was acting all upset with a quivering voice. I would rate it a "Hayden Christian" performance.

At any rate, you have to put it in context. He also said shit about being a senator for his family and stuff. Yeah right. :rolleyes:

Would any Americans here actually be glad or would want to see the UN move residence away from the US? Seriously?

Would it be like the 'send it back' campaign to send the Statue of Liberty back to France? :p

As a New York City resident, I would welcome the departure of the UN. It is a cancer.

Oh and I forgot Roach.

Your site listed the WashingtonTimes. Not exactly a stamp of credibility. ;)
The Washington Times is owned by the Moonies

It's really nice how all of your statements are so realistic. They aren't exaggerated at all [/sarcasm]
its the TRUTH--only magnified

As a New York City resident, I would welcome the departure of the UN. It is a cancer.
Wow, really? Care to expand...
Anyone else? :eek:

Id take the UN over Bush any day of the week

Neo-cons (theo-cons being a subset of the species) are dominionists.

Bush, G.W., Frist, etc. are neo-cons (along with Bolton)

Real conservatives are people like McCain and Warner (John).

Oh no--you're not passing them off on us. Neocons and their cousins the theocons are all yours, buddy. They're not remotely liberal, no matter how much you try to distance yourself from them. They're all on you, bub.

We don't want 'em, either. They can be all by themselves. That way, we can team up and gang up on them.

Hehe....sounds good to me. Deal! :D

its the TRUTH--only magnified

So let's say Bush leaves office in 2008 and we have not withdrawn from the UN and WW3 has not happened, you're going to be here admitting that your suggestions were ridiculous, yes?

I'm smelling a return of TRA/MKULTRA
Ohhh....I hope so. I really miss him and his posts.

So let's say Bush leaves office in 2008 and we have not withdrawn from the UN and WW3 has not happened, you're going to be here admitting that your suggestions were ridiculous, yes?
yes--but I know in my gut Im not wrong.

Ohhh....I hope so. I really miss him and his posts.
I miss you too

Call me a cynic, but I'm just a tad suspicious about GV's blubbering. At first he said that he would vote to nominate Bolton. Then he said he wanted to think about it some more on the commitee. Now all of a sudden he's near tears on the senate floor? It's just a tad fishy to me.

Call me a cynic, but I'm just a tad suspicious about GV's blubbering. At first he said that he would vote to nominate Bolton. Then he said he wanted to think about it some more on the commitee. Now all of a sudden he's near tears on the senate floor? It's just a tad fishy to me.
are u sayin you dont believe him?

Would any Americans here actually be glad or would want to see the UN move residence away from the US? Seriously?

Would it be like the 'send it back' campaign to send the Statue of Liberty back to France? :p

I'd prefer if it was relocated back to San Francisco, where the first meetings were held.

I think the UN can restore sanity to the hell on earth Bush creates in every country where his evil influence has been felt

I miss you too

Oh, are you TRA then? I've missed your posts quite a bit too. Good to see you back!

Oh, are you TRA then? I've missed your posts quite a bit too. Good to see you back!
I missed you too Niccolo-I remember you. I wonder how long Ill last this time :D

Hmm...500 posts maybe? The rest of the posters should start making odds on just how long you'll last ;)

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/congress/jan-june05/bolton_5-26.html
--an interview in which Voinovich explains his position


http://www.nationalledger.com/scribe/archives/2005/05/senator_boxer_w.shtml
--pro-Bolton editorial that references Voinovich's tears and cynically thanks Barbara Boxer for not crying

Hmm...500 posts maybe? The rest of the posters should start making odds on just how long you'll last ;)
they should at least announce it
I never liked gthe policy of just disappearing people