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Fascist Websites

Teutonnia
26-05-2005, 19:47
Hello Everyone!

For those of you hear at Nationstates who want to know what Real Fascism is check out these websites-

www.americanfascistparty.com
www.americanfascistmovement.com
www.worldfascistnews.org
www.realfascism.com
www.fascismforum.com
www.oswaldmosley.com
Super-power
26-05-2005, 19:49
I hate you facist types :sniper:
Vittos Ordination
26-05-2005, 19:51
Hooray, it's time for the monthly NationStates Fascist Party member drive.

I expect eight replies and four bumps.

And I agree with Super-power.
Swimmingpool
26-05-2005, 19:52
I hate you facist types :sniper:
They don't have an agenda. They just seem to be a bunch of teenage males who want to say "we're not just conservatives... really!"
Sdaeriji
26-05-2005, 19:53
I agree with fascism. I call 'Il Duce'.
Frangland
26-05-2005, 19:57
I agree with fascism. I call 'Il Duce'.

lol

Il Duce El Segundo

hehe
The Noble Men
26-05-2005, 19:58
Hooray, it's time for the monthly NationStates Fascist Party member drive.

I expect eight replies and four bumps.

And I agree with Super-power.

Erm...nubie here. What does "bump" mean? Also, can I just say that the terms "facist" and "racist" are pointless. We all know that they both mean "bastard".
Ferias
26-05-2005, 20:00
I hate facism, what the hells wrong with the rest of the world? :headbang:
Sdaeriji
26-05-2005, 20:05
lol

Il Duce El Segundo

hehe

Yar. I have no problem with fascism so long as I'm the one in charge.
Drunken FratBoy Island
26-05-2005, 20:05
You know, I don't agree with this persons beliefs, but it really gripes me that some people are proud of the fact that they are "Intollerant of Intollerance" (a little hypocritical don't you think?).
Where I live, I've never met a single person claiming to be a Nazi . And yet, I see so many punk kids walking around these days wearing NO-ZI badges and jaw flapping about how they'd beat the piss out of a Nazi if they met one.
Kinda sad when these punks get a raging hard-on when ever they think about beating up some ignorant, insecure white boy for his beliefs.
Crapholistan
26-05-2005, 20:06
Internet Nazis? :D I wonder if they go "Sieg Heilsorz"?
Ftagn
26-05-2005, 20:08
It seems they devote a lot of energy to convincing people that they're not nazis. "We're not Nazi racist bastards! Really!"

Yeah sure... down with democracy... I'd sure love a government in which the people have no rights. /sarcasm
Markreich
26-05-2005, 20:10
Erm...nubie here. What does "bump" mean? Also, can I just say that the terms "facist" and "racist" are pointless. We all know that they both mean "bastard".

Bump is just that... a null post just to give the thread something new so people notice it.

Fascists are rather like Communists... it doesn't work, but they're very vocal regardless. ;)
Super-power
26-05-2005, 20:11
Internet Nazis? :D I wonder if they go "Sieg Heilsorz"?
Zi3g h3i150rz! :D
Crapholistan
26-05-2005, 20:13
Zi3g h3i150rz! :D

D3r FuhRorz i5 t3h ub3rl33t! Teh J3wsorz i5 teh suck!
Ftagn
26-05-2005, 20:16
Their agenda? Come to power.Apparently, they haven't thought past that yet. Or maybe they still need to decide who gets to be dictator...
Frangland
26-05-2005, 20:18
Yar. I have no problem with fascism so long as I'm the one in charge.

i have no problem with it so long as you're not in charge. hehe
The Noble Men
26-05-2005, 20:20
D3r FuhRorz i5 t3h ub3rl33t! Teh J3wsorz i5 teh suck!

You are a moron not worthy to posses a computer. How can we take you seriously if all you do is slap your face against the keyboard? Wanker.
Teutonnia
26-05-2005, 20:26
So im guessing none of you have bothered to go and visit those websites?
CthulhuFhtagn
26-05-2005, 20:26
Fascists are rather like Communists... it doesn't work, but they're very vocal regardless. ;)
At least Communism works in theory. At least as long the person doing the theorizing is extremely naive.
CthulhuFhtagn
26-05-2005, 20:28
So im guessing none of you have bothered to go and visit those websites?
These sites get whored out every fucking month. We've practically memorized the damn content.
Swimmingpool
26-05-2005, 21:05
Is Teutonnia the same as Fascist Emerica?
Neo-Anarchists
26-05-2005, 21:14
Is Teutonnia the same as Fascist Emerica?
If my information is correct, Fascist Emerica became a conservative or something like that.
Neo-Anarchists
26-05-2005, 21:17
So im guessing none of you have bothered to go and visit those websites?
No, we have. And we've noticed their lack of content.

So, I will repeat another version of the challenge I have given in all the fascist threads before this one, which has not yet been answered:

What are the fascists' stances on the issues? Gay marriage, globalization, taxation, the draft, all that sort of stuff. What do fascists really support?
Psov
26-05-2005, 21:21
Fascists are rather like Communists ... it doesn't work, but they're very vocal regardless. ;)

That's extremely insulting...
DHomme
26-05-2005, 21:22
Ive been on a few of those. I love it how fascists try to distance themselves from nazism and say theyre basically a little more authoritarian capitalists. You crazy fascist swine!
Tekania
26-05-2005, 21:23
Internet Nazis? :D I wonder if they go "Sieg Heilsorz"?

Wouldn't it be 513g h31l50rz
Ashmoria
26-05-2005, 21:28
D3r FuhRorz i5 t3h ub3rl33t! Teh J3wsorz i5 teh suck!
brilliant!
that made me laugh out loud
Ulrichland
26-05-2005, 21:35
This (http://www.hitler.org/) webpage is actually worth a look. For those of you how good/ bad/ ugly Herr Hitler's art was this is definately THE place to go.

The Home and Garden magazine's visit, tour and report about the Fuhrer's mountain resort (http://www.idleworm.com/rnt/hst/nzi/hit/hom/index.shtml) is pretty scary as well.
Ashmoria
26-05-2005, 21:45
well www.americanfascism.com seems to think that fascism means big-ass graphics that download extremely slowly on my half-mile-from-the-road dialup connection. so i had to give that one a pass.



www.realfascism.com thinks its some kind of trancendental spiritual movement.

www.americanfascistmovement.com says

Corporatism and the Corporate State - Fascism recgonizes the nation as an organism with a purpose, a life and means of action transcending those of the individuals of which it is composed. To limit such an organism to a purpose within itself, to the mere service of its constituent parts, would be a denial of the whole philosophic concept of the corporate state. People of worth will sacrifice their immediate welfare to the needs of their careers. Similarly, the Corporate state must not be considered soley as a means of good government. It is also the means of self-expression of the nation as a corporate whole in the attainment of its national destiny.

im not sure what that means but i sure know what THIS means:


Democracy - Democracy is a facade: when people act as individuals, deciding what he or she wants to do, it equals chaos. Democracy is too weak to be relied on; for liberalism spends too much emphasis on individualism which separates communities and people into groups, hence creating class conflict. Democracy is anarchy with a less shocking name. As Fascists we will make sure that control, unity, and obedience will be the top priorities for the people of America. These three aspects will without a doubt lower crime, poverty, and allow people to live normal, more traditional ways of life.


i feel it is folly to assume that you will be the guy in the nice boots instead of the guy on the ground with that boot on his neck.
Ulrichland
26-05-2005, 21:52
www.americanfascistparty.com


A funky intro. Too bad most of the slogans pass by so fast you can't read them. I think they should NOT call their supreme hoschi "The Leader". Sounds too much like "Der Führer". Oh well.


www.americanfascistmovement.com


Those guys promote Italian fascism and fancy Mussolini. Well, if they want to select THE loser dictator of the 20th century as their idol...


www.worldfascistnews.org


Looks like the ICH, but just for fascists.


www.realfascism.com


Doesn't really work on my browser. Seems to be the honest attempt to sell their message in a "civilized fashion".


www.fascismforum.com


Dead link.


www.oswaldmosley.com

They try to be objective, but their site sucks, far too much naziesque imagery on it. Nice try, bad execution.

Thanks for the links, but fascisim doesn't really work out for me.
Letila
26-05-2005, 21:56
Fascism, it sucks.
Ashmoria
26-05-2005, 21:58
This (http://www.hitler.org/) webpage is actually worth a look. For those of you how good/ bad/ ugly Herr Hitler's art was this is definately THE place to go.

The Home and Garden magazine's visit, tour and report about the Fuhrer's mountain resort (http://www.idleworm.com/rnt/hst/nzi/hit/hom/index.shtml) is pretty scary as well.
thanks for the H&G link. its very creepy.
Khudros
26-05-2005, 22:11
I can't believe people actually think fascism will become a major American Ideology. We didn't lose half a million soldiers fighting fascism all the way over in Europe only to allow it to spring up here.

They're setting the stage for about 50 more Wacos.
Markreich
27-05-2005, 13:47
That's extremely insulting...

Just speaking the truth as derived from history. :)

If you're insulted, I'm sorry, but it's as true as the fact that Slovakia lost the world cup due to poor coaching decisions.
Teutonnia
27-05-2005, 19:33
Is Teutonnia the same as Fascist Emerica?No he's not. FE left my Region a while ago.
Neo-Anarchists
27-05-2005, 19:38
Ooh, Teutonnia is back.

Care to answer my question, or could you point me to a site that would provide answers?
http://www.forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=8956899&postcount=24
Quentulus Qazgar
27-05-2005, 21:09
Internet Nazis? :D I wonder if they go "Sieg Heilsorz"?
National socialism doesn't have anything to do with fascism.
Markreich
27-05-2005, 21:21
National socialism doesn't have anything to do with fascism.

Yep. And Taco Bell has nothing to do with flatulence.
Ashmoria
27-05-2005, 21:27
its hard to understand why anyone would be drawn to a political philosophy that failed so dramatically.
CthulhuFhtagn
27-05-2005, 21:56
its hard to understand why anyone would be drawn to a political philosophy that failed so dramatically.
Same reason people watch Gigli.
Kroisistan
27-05-2005, 22:12
its hard to understand why anyone would be drawn to a political philosophy that failed so dramatically.

I'm not a fascist but it seems unfair to judge a movement just because it's failed in the past. There are SOME ideals of Fascism that might be good, and it's really intellectually limiting to say "oh well that will never ever work because it failed in the past."

The Roman Republic fell into repressive monarchy, but that didn't mean the idea of Republic should never have been considered/implemented again. Same for Athenian Democracy.

That's not to say we shouldn't learn from the mistakes and failures of the past, and we all know Fascism had quite a large number, but I for one don't think it's such a good idea to completely count the entire idea out, and thus limit our possible solutions to issues.

That being said, I'm wondering about the original poster - Are you a Fascist trying to recruit here, or are you doing this to educate us for some other reason?
Teutonnia
27-05-2005, 22:36
No, we have. And we've noticed their lack of content.

So, I will repeat another version of the challenge I have given in all the fascist threads before this one, which has not yet been answered:

What are the fascists' stances on the issues? Gay marriage, globalization, taxation, the draft, all that sort of stuff. What do fascists really support?Thanks for digging this thread up for me!

Gay Marriage- A bit of a trivial issue really. Most Fascists are against Gay Marriage.

Globalization- We are against it. Nations should thrive and develop on their own. Fascism is meant for export. We are not isolationists but we believe the best foreign policy is to stay at home. Fascism is an ideology that can be used and adapted to suit every nation here on earth. For example the Spanish Falange www.falange.es

Tax- We support higher taxation for the rich. The American Fascist Party(im not even american, im British and just someone who is helping out the AFP with putting up the website for them!) hasnt developed a definte policy on Taxation. Personally I support Taxing the Rich more and lowering Tax for the working class and the middle-class.

The Draft- is a good idea as it teaches people discipline and respect for authority. Will also help to sort out youths who are involved with gangs, violence and drugs.
Ashmoria
27-05-2005, 22:45
I'm not a fascist but it seems unfair to judge a movement just because it's failed in the past. There are SOME ideals of Fascism that might be good, and it's really intellectually limiting to say "oh well that will never ever work because it failed in the past."

The Roman Republic fell into repressive monarchy, but that didn't mean the idea of Republic should never have been considered/implemented again. Same for Athenian Democracy.

That's not to say we shouldn't learn from the mistakes and failures of the past, and we all know Fascism had quite a large number, but I for one don't think it's such a good idea to completely count the entire idea out, and thus limit our possible solutions to issues.

That being said, I'm wondering about the original poster - Are you a Fascist trying to recruit here, or are you doing this to educate us for some other reason?

well there arent any successful examples (the republican party doesnt count!)
and the examples of the past went down in flames, unlike the roman republic which was successful for a long long time.
Whitekong
27-05-2005, 22:46
:mp5: SCREW YOU ALL!!!!! COMMUNISM IS THE WAY TO GO :cool:
Kryozerkia
27-05-2005, 22:52
I hate you facist types :sniper:
Oh yay! Flames! Now...where did I put my marshmellows?

I hate facism, what the hells wrong with the rest of the world? :headbang:
We could start with: what the hell is wrong with you? :p
Great Beer and Food
27-05-2005, 23:03
Hello Everyone!

For those of you hear at Nationstates who want to know what Real Fascism is check out these websites-

www.americanfascistparty.com
www.americanfascistmovement.com
www.worldfascistnews.org
www.realfascism.com
www.fascismforum.com
www.oswaldmosley.com

LOL, whats funny about those sites is that they all talk about bringing about a new America of some sort, but they fail to describe exactly what that new America would be, or how they would actually go about achieving it.

Meh, whatever. The American Facist Party is about as toothless as the American Communist Party. I feel more threatened by the stay puft marshmallow man.

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