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A guy stole bronze flag holders from the graves of hundreds of war veterans. What a scumbag. He should be forcibly deported to Iraq with a T-shirt that says "Flush Islam" or something.

www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7983456/

A guy stole bronze flag holders from the graves of hundreds of war veterans. What a scumbag. He should be forcibly deported to Iraq with a T-shirt that says "Flush Islam" or something.

www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7983456/

I guess robbing disabled persons (as happend here in Oldenburg) is a lot worse.

I guess robbing disabled persons (as happend here in Oldenburg) is a lot worse.
Really? I rob disabled persons all the time. I figgure if they can't even get out of that chair and chase me they didn't really want that pocketbook.

Really? I rob disabled persons all the time. I figgure if they can't even get out of that chair and chase me they didn't really want that pocketbook.
:D

Speaking of robbing old/disabled people, someone in my town tried to rob an old woman outside a grocery store. The woman resisted, and one of the robbers hit her, causing her to fall and hit her head. She later died in the hospital.

A guy stole bronze flag holders from the graves of hundreds of war veterans. What a scumbag. He should be forcibly deported to Iraq with a T-shirt that says "Flush Islam" or something.

www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7983456/

I guess you could argue that, since they are flag holders on GRAVES, the chances are that the veteran in question probably wouldn't mind too much...

I guess you could argue that, since they are flag holders on GRAVES, the chances are that the veteran in question probably wouldn't mind too much...
Maybe his family does. Maybe people like me who appreciate the veteran's sacrifices mind. It's an affront to the memory of the heros who fought for our nation.

There is worse. Like Russians or Polish cracking open graves of Wehrmacht members, looting what is left. They sell those items to "reenactors" in the Us or similar war nerd scum.

Saddening. Really.

In my opinion, if you dont want something stolden, dont leave it out. Besides, they should have been cremated.

Maybe his family does. Maybe people like me who appreciate the veteran's sacrifices mind. It's an affront to the memory of the heros who fought for our nation.

Or maybe, it's an insult to the memory of the veteran to believe that a piece of metal can make up for all they gave and lost.

Dead is dead.

It's funny that people will whine about the desecration of veteran graves, but are blind to the reduction of medical assistance (for example) to the veterans who have (apparently) not been lucky enough to die yet.

Maybe his family does. Maybe people like me who appreciate the veteran's sacrifices mind. It's an affront to the memory of the heros who fought for our nation.

Maybe as a German I do not really understand Americans.
Here veteran soldiers are mostly men who fought for Hitler. I do not appreciate this.

Maybe as a German I do not really understand Americans.
Here veteran soldiers are mostly men who fought for Hitler. I do not appreciate this.


We stupid americans like to honor our dead veterens. WE so stupid.

Maybe as a German I do not really understand Americans.
Here veteran soldiers are mostly men who fought for Hitler. I do not appreciate this.

That's because Germany hasn't invaded anyone lately. Germany is overdue, really. A good war of agression is great for patriotism. Just invade one of those "axis of evil" guys. They're too small to fight back but no one will care.

Or maybe, it's an insult to the memory of the veteran to believe that a piece of metal can make up for all they gave and lost.

Dead is dead.

It's funny that people will whine about the desecration of veteran graves, but are blind to the reduction of medical assistance (for example) to the veterans who have (apparently) not been lucky enough to die yet.
We're not blind to it. I wrote my senators, congressman, and even the president over the proposed cuts.

Maybe as a German I do not really understand Americans.
Here veteran soldiers are mostly men who fought for Hitler. I do not appreciate this.
Since our veterans fought against Hitler we feel better about honoring them.

robbing disabled war veterans of the holocaust and hilsborough tragedy would be the lowest i could think of

Thats pretty low. Probably an addict ensuring he has cash for his next fix. Morals go out the window in that case.

Just a note: There's a mistake in the article. The flower holders are described as Bronze, yet they give a quote for the current price of Brass Two different things. Bronze currently goes for around $7 per pound. A heck of a lot more than brass. My main job is a Patineur. Meaning: I put the patina on Bronze sculptures, restore the patina on old one (ie: Vetrans Memorials). Idiot reporter probably can't tie his own shoelaces....doesn't know the diff betwenn brass and bronze...mutter mutter...

Yes, you can get lower. You can go around claiming you're a veteran (or even prior service in peacetime) when you're not.

Claiming you've got medals you never won.

Claiming you're in a specialty you've never served in.

Yes, you can get lower. You can go around claiming you're a veteran (or even prior service in peacetime) when you're not.

Claiming you've got medals you never won.

Claiming you're in a specialty you've never served in.
True dat.

Speaking of robbing old/disabled people, someone in my town tried to rob an old woman outside a grocery store. The woman resisted, and one of the robbers hit her, causing her to fall and hit her head. She later died in the hospital.


This happens so often, its a disgrace. It'd be nice to hear someone posing as an old woman turned out to be a young, robust man that hit the thieve's head on the sidewalk till he died. And then emptied his pockets.

Yes, you can get lower. You can go around claiming you're a veteran (or even prior service in peacetime) when you're not.

Claiming you've got medals you never won.

Claiming you're in a specialty you've never served in.


This is rampant these days. Fraud in general is a whole billion dollar industry. When has a day passed that you havent heard a news story about someone being caught in some scheme? Every freaking day-ID theft, credit card fraud, phishing-If these scumbags put the same effort and determination into legal activities, they might be doing alright.

This is rampant these days. Fraud in general is a whole billion dollar industry. When has a day passed that you havent heard a news story about someone being caught in some scheme? Every freaking day-ID theft, credit card fraud, phishing-If these scumbags put the same effort and determination into legal activities, they might be doing alright.

What I hate is people who have a left-wing agenda who claim prior service who never served in the "high speed low drag" outfits they claim to have served in.

Then they wave that "service" as a banner to support what they're saying - when they have no idea that a) there's a way to check, and b) there are people out there who recognize when they have no idea what they're talking about, and c) that it's an insult to the people who actually have served.

In fact, I was over on another forum, verifying the military service of someone else, and I found out that someone is, in the terms of the verifier, "a fucking douche".

Drunk commies, check your TGs.

Drunk commies, check your TGs.
Holy shit dude! That's fucked up. I thought he was a respectable guy.

What I hate is people who have a left-wing agenda who claim prior service who never served in the "high speed low drag" outfits they claim to have served in.

Then they wave that "service" as a banner to support what they're saying - when they have no idea that a) there's a way to check, and b) there are people out there who recognize when they have no idea what they're talking about, and c) that it's an insult to the people who actually have served.

How about someone who serves in the National Guard but then decides to quit when impending war is coming? But then, uses fraud and fabricates documents to "prove" otherwise. Neither of these two types of "people"(I'm 90% sure I know who you're talking about, and I'm sure you can figure who I am talking about) are as couragious as they'd like us to think. Yellow-bellied cowards who think we are impressed by pieces of paper.

How about someone who serves in the National Guard but then decides to quit when impending war is coming? But then, uses fraud and fabricates documents to "prove" otherwise. Neither of these two types of "people"(I'm 90% sure I know who you're talking about, and I'm sure you can figure who I am talking about) are as couragious as they'd like us to think. Yellow-bellied cowards who think we are impressed by pieces of paper.

I'm talking about a prominent poster on NationStates General.

How about someone who serves in the National Guard but then decides to quit when impending war is coming? But then, uses fraud and fabricates documents to "prove" otherwise. Neither of these two types of "people"(I'm 90% sure I know who you're talking about, and I'm sure you can figure who I am talking about) are as couragious as they'd like us to think. Yellow-bellied cowards who think we are impressed by pieces of paper.I'm not sure you know who he's talking about. It's not someone in public life, it's someone on the forums. I'm not outing anyone because I haven't heard both sides, and also it's really none of my business.

Holy shit dude! That's fucked up. I thought he was a respectable guy.


I missed something. I dont even know what TGs are. If its the statements under your posts, mine only seem to be on half the time.

I'm not sure you know who he's talking about. It's not someone in public life, it's someone on the forums. I'm not outing anyone because I haven't heard both sides, and also it's really none of my business.
I'm not outing him here because it doesn't really matter on this forum.

I'm talking about a prominent poster on NationStates General.

Ah. Carry on then.

I missed something. I dont even know what TGs are. If its the statements under your posts, mine only seem to be on half the time.
If you check into your nation's home page, and click on Telegrams, you can read your Telegrams. Here, I'll send you one.

THis issue is similar, but not nearly as crucial as the grave robbers of the Pyramids of Egypt. They are famous, and hated by historians worldwide for desecrating the graves of pharos.

Guess what? If all the gold inside the pyramids STAYED inside the pyramids, the Egyptian economy would have collapsed in no time.

The veterans are DEAD. Don't "honor" them with a piece of copper. Honor them by appreciating their sacrifices, honor them by doing community service, honor them by fighting the poverty that leads so many to steal. Honor them. Do not patronize them.

THis issue is similar, but not nearly as crucial as the grave robbers of the Pyramids of Egypt. They are famous, and hated by historians worldwide for desecrating the graves of pharos.

Guess what? If all the gold inside the pyramids STAYED inside the pyramids, the Egyptian economy would have collapsed in no time.

The veterans are DEAD. Don't "honor" them with a piece of copper. Honor them by appreciating their sacrifices, honor them by doing community service, honor them by fighting the poverty that leads so many to steal. Honor them. Do not patronize them.


This isnt on par with Egyptian gold. While I agree with honoring veterans and our society that they fought for through community service, etc... poverty often promotes hard work, not just stealing. Thieves arent always poor, but they are almost always stupid.

Carnivorous, check your TGs again.

"Guess what? If all the gold inside the pyramids STAYED inside the pyramids, the Egyptian economy would have collapsed in no time."

That probably says more about Arab dictatorships than anything else.

Carnivorous, check your TGs again.


Got it. That one caught me off Guard.

Geez, it's at times like this that I wish that I wasn't such a fucking douche, so I could be in on the secret.

Still, I'll get over it.

Edit: I hope it is not that Eutrusca fellow, he seems like a nice old guy.

Can you get much lower than stealing from the graves of war veterans?

My highly cynical veiw of humanity was illustrated with great clarity when I read this, and my first thought was "yes, much lower".

Geez, it's at times like this that I wish that I wasn't such a fucking douche, so I could be in on the secret.

Still, I'll get over it.

Edit: I hope it is not that Eutrusca fellow, he seems like a nice old guy.

Eutrusca is OK.

It's someone else.