NationStates Jolt Archive

Just a single question. Or rather a statement and choose if you agree. Thanks for reading-

Gay marriage should be legalized

Strongly Agree
Agree
Don't Care
Disagree
Strongly Disagree

Are you male or female? (Need this too.)

Feel free to elaborate but please start post with one of the five choices and stating your sex. I greatly appreciate any posts, thank you.

Agree, Male.

I like pie.

Gay marriage should be legalized: Agree

Male, 20.


why? why not?

agree, female

Strongly Agree, Male.

straight male, agree

Agree, Male, 16.

Strongly Agree

Male, 30 I'm wearing grey socks.

disagree

male, 23
just to be irritating. shouldn't be allowed to marry in a Christian context. if context isn't Christian, which it generally is (extremely vague generalisation) in UK and US, fair enough; shouldn't be an issue.

Strongly Agree

Male

Marriage is a legal agreement between two individuals. Gender has nothing to do with it.

Strongly Agree, Male

Why are people putting down how old they are? Is it just some strange FYI? ;)

Agree, Male

If they want it then they should have it. Beeing their own personal life they should be able to live as they want. Not my place to decide for them and say no. As long as it doesnt interfere in a bad way with other people anyone should be able to do what they want. Even if its not conventional. Hell, sex before marriage wasnt aproved at one time.

Strongly Disagree Male

disagree male

Wouldn't be against some other term with similar rights, domestic partner, etc. Marriage is hard enough work these days without making it a catch-all phrase.

Strongly agree

female

BUT churches can decide for themselves. There's no need for a law that forces churches to marry gays if they don't want to.

Strongly Disagree - male

Strongly Disagree

Male

We cannot arbitrarily redefine marriage as any voluntary association, including that between two homosexuals. That definition reduces marriage to the same kind of thing as a club or a political action committee or an affair.

strongly agree, female

Strongly Agree. Female.

Marriage is joining two lives, two people, together. If it's become so loosely defined that half of them end in divorces, it shouldn't be so strict that it's limited by gender. Let people who want that commitment make it official and public.

Strongly Disagree

Male

We cannot arbitrarily redefine marriage as any voluntary association, including that between two homosexuals. That definition reduces marriage to the same kind of thing as a club or a political action committee or an affair.

Then a new term for legal marriage should be coined. I think the government should only recognize civil unions and then this will protect the sactity of marriage for religious folks. You want to be married find a church (this would also count as a civil union) and if you want to have a civil union between two adults with all the rights and privelages granted the same then you need only find a certified person willing to do it.

In the US, it is a violation of constitutional law to allow a man and a woman special privelages and not other couples. So either same-sex 'marriages' must be recognized or no marriages can be.

Strongly Agree — Male

But allowing gay marriage should not be compulsory. My libertarian political views outrank my libertarian social ones.

~Czardas, Supreme Ruler of the Universe

Strongly agree - female

Just a single question. Or rather a statement and choose if you agree. Thanks for reading-

Gay marriage should be legalized

Strongly Agree
Agree
Don't Care
Disagree
Strongly Disagree

Are you male or female? (Need this too.)

Feel free to elaborate but please start post with one of the five choices and stating your sex. I greatly appreciate any posts, thank you.
Strongly agree.
Male.

strongly agree, female, 47

Don't care. Male.

Don't care. Male.
Whatever cabbage patch girl.

Strongly agree, asexual alien being. (Fine, male.)

Strongly Agree, Male

But only in a legal sense. As said before, religious groups should not be forced to allow same-sex marriages. Remember: Seperation of Church and State, here.

Strongly agree, female

I pick the tertium quid. Government should not determine the validity of a marriage - it's a religious concept, and I think governments should stay out of religion and vice versa.

I pick the tertium quid. Government should not determine the validity of a marriage - it's a religious concept, and I think governments should stay out of religion and vice versa.

Fine, then government should not recognize marriage whatsoever. This means that insurance companies don't have to insure spouses, if one is a housewife and the other works and then dies then the housewife gets no social security and end up penniless, etc. Basically, the problem is that if a same-sex couple commits to one another they don't get offered the same benefits that opposite-sex couples do, like tax breaks, insurance, social security, next of kin rights, etc.

I pick the tertium quid. Government should not determine the validity of a marriage - it's a religious concept, and I think governments should stay out of religion and vice versa.

Well, the problem with this is is that Government and marriage are tied together far to greatly today. Removing marriage from the government would be a very devastating blow in many ways.

agree (male)

why the hell not?

I pick the tertium quid. Government should not determine the validity of a marriage - it's a religious concept, and I think governments should stay out of religion and vice versa.
Marriage is not a religious concept. If it was, why would courts be allowed to perform marriages?

Well, the problem with this is is that Government and marriage are tied together far to greatly today. Removing marriage from the government would be a very devastating blow in many ways.

Yes, exactly. The problem is that unions have to be recognized by governments just as other elements of family are. This should extend to any union not just heterosexual unions.

I, for one, agree with gay marriages. I am female.

BTW, gay marriages are performed in Canada. yay for us.

I should also add that i agree with Jocabia that since other elements of family are recognized by government, then so should gay unions. partners and children in those unions need to be protected just as everyone else is, and it needs to be law.

Strong Agree, Male.

However, Chruches should not be forced to perform the marriages.

Agree Male.

Strongly agree.

Male.

(you should have just made a poll)

Strongly Agree, Male.

Religion is dying, bit by bit. People have stopped respecting the Sabbath, church attendance rates are down, nobody likes the Pope et cetera. Gay marriges are only frowned upon by religious types. Why should they dictate our laws. But, for a compromise, why not have the marriage in a registry office as opposed to a church?

Strongly agree.

Male.

(you should have just made a poll)

I think the originator wanted to be sure we posted and said our sex. Plus, it encourages people to post more of their opinion.

Just a single question. Or rather a statement and choose if you agree. Thanks for reading-

Gay marriage should be legalized

Strongly Agree
Agree
Don't Care
Disagree
Strongly Disagree

Are you male or female? (Need this too.)

Feel free to elaborate but please start post with one of the five choices and stating your sex. I greatly appreciate any posts, thank you.

Agree.

Female.

You should have made this a poll.

Agree, male.

Although I would rather they be called "civil unions" while keeping the same legal rights as a heterosexual "marriage."

strongly agree, female

straigt male, agree

allow the legal marriage, what the churches do is their own business.

Strongly Agree

Male

I feel the same for all gay rights. What part of being homosexual makes you unfit to be a parent, or to serve your country, or to get married?

Agree - as long as it isn't a forced 'religious' ceremony.
Female

disagree, male

Strongly agree, female.

Don't Care, Female

don't care. i'm male, and i'm a christian. whether or not it's legalised, anybody who's gay isn't going to be stopped from having gay sex because they can't get married, so what does it matter? as long as they don't call it marriage...if they insist on calling it gay marriage, then i'll get mad....it's like a round square: it simply can't exist, "gay" and "marriage" are contradictory terms that cannot be intertwined.

strongly agree, male.

Strongly agree, male.

What others have said is true—this would have made an amazing poll. Though I'm sure it's been done before many times. :-)

strongly agree, male

strongly disagree, female

Disagree, male

Civil unions should be recognized by states that wish to recognize them and not by states which do not. The federal government should recognize that which is recognized by the states; therefore, if you enter into a civil union in a state which recognizes them, the federal government should recognize it.

This goes for any two consenting adults regardless of sexual orientation.

Don't care, i could not give a damn.

Disagree, male

Civil unions should be recognized by states that wish to recognize them and not by states which do not. The federal government should recognize that which is recognized by the states; therefore, if you enter into a civil union in a state which recognizes them, the federal government should recognize it.

This goes for any two consenting adults regardless of sexual orientation.

Can't do that. It's a violation of the constitution.

Can't do that. It's a violation of the constitution.

How so?

How so?

I'll look, but I remember that there is a part of the constitution that says if they are licensed in a state that the license must be recognized by all other states. It's to prevent the need for licensing across the country except where necessary.

EDIT: From the US Constitution

Article IV. - The States
Section 1 - Each State to Honor all others

Full Faith and Credit shall be given in each State to the public Acts, Records, and judicial Proceedings of every other State. And the Congress may by general Laws prescribe the Manner in which such Acts, Records and Proceedings shall be proved, and the Effect thereof.

SECOND EDIT: I may be wrong. It appears that there may be precedence for not acknowledging marriages that are legal in one state and not another, e.g. fifteen-year-olds.

Strongly agree; male.

Male:Straight

Religious marriage: disagree
Civil marriage: dont care