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If you're a nonracist, a communist, or a democrat, then the way I understand those terms it means you're in favor of equality (social, economic, and political respectively). If you fall into any of those categories, then you should know the word iniquity: it means "inequity, inequality," but it also means "evil, wickedness"!

Wow, I really didn't know that word... :rolleyes:

Not everyone is as educated as me though. And communism ? equality; that's socialism.

~Czardas, Supreme Ruler of the Universe

I'm one of the few "left wing" idealists who believe equality can be achieved without communism.

If you're a nonracist, a communist, or a democrat, then the way I understand those terms it means you're in favor of equality (social, economic, and political respectively). If you fall into any of those categories, then you should know the word iniquity: it means "inequity, inequality," but it also means "evil, wickedness"!

Non-racists, Communists, and Democrats are three different groups, cully. Just because someone is one, doesn't mean they agree with, (or even respect) the other two.

Nice word though. Iniquity... frequently heard on the pulpits of those right-wing churches in the final usage you listed-wickedness and Evil.

Non-racists, Communists, and Democrats are three different groups, cully. Just because someone is one, doesn't mean they agree with, (or even respect) the other two.

Nice word though. Iniquity... frequently heard on the pulpits of those right-wing churches in the final usage you listed-wickedness and Evil.I think OJ (you don't mind if I use your abrev do you Optima Justitia?) meant 'democrats' as in 'people who believe that lawmakers should be chosen by the people rather than appointed'. And yes, I've heard various pastors attempting to save the human race from iniquity.

~Czardas, Supreme Ruler of the Universe

It depends on what sort of equality one wants. Not political or economic or social, but what the concept means for you.
For example as in everyone has the same or as in everyone receives what they have earned. In that sense equality means fairness.

I don't like that word, it makes the pygmy dragons cry. :(

-Magpie, ruler of The Republic of Brakenwood

I'm one of the few "left wing" idealists who believe equality can be achieved without communism.


I honestly don't think that it will be as big an issue later... See Communism, "Community first", is always bastardized into the community getting bigger, however, if communities were left to themselves mostly and only with some very large broad hinges holding things together, that would be acceptable.

Socialism basically... The problem with Socialism is that is still allows for Capitalists to aquire vast vast vast vast vast vast vast vast vast sums of wealth... Unfortunately that lowers everyone elses wealth and subsquently some individuals have more votes or "powers" because they can enforce their will upon the democratic system... For example, they can buy votes, control media and influence public thought.

In fact they mostly make things in their favour. Which is why things are going so poorly in the US. They have ALOT of capitalists drumming to the same tune. "Globalization" "World Community".. Buzz words which mean... Once we OWN everything and EVERYONE is a purchasable slave (rent themselves as a slave) then they have the perfectly corrupt system... Labourers over there supply good for imperialist states and so forth...

It's disbalancing and never achieves what it promises, which is growing communities and mutual growth. It just ends up making them demand more until finally, the rich benefactor leaves, because its more ecnomical to move on to the next group depressed by tsunami or war...

I think its digusting that the US made a side deal with indonesia to supply money to rebuild infrastructure (roads and bridges) to get the peoples "lives moving" again... What they wanted, was to put the people whom they put into camps able to get to the new factories being built, which these now completely destitute people will now be able to work for like 5c an hour...

That is the "undemocracizing" force, which is money...

You have more money, you have more votes...

Creating a slower more sustainable economy, with no more "people" as corporations. Corporations will be under charter, like they were, and must not leave those charters. Regular people must be able to petition the dissolution of a corporation which is polluting their lives or whatever.

All business should be solo-ownership, or partnership. No limited liability, except in the case of corporation, which will spell out its infractions on the charter...

That would be a free, more sensible economic system until we can of course rise the "next" level... That level being the lack of NEED for money... But that would take a long long time I think...

Now, the key is removing the power from the corporations and dividing their wealth amongst the masses, thats called a "social revolution", and as the Declaration of Independance paraphrases "If the government no longer serves the will of its people, or is too corrupt, it is the responsibility of the people who can change the government to take it upon themselves to do so."

The resources of the country of the United States and indeed, all states, are owned by their people, not any one individual within them. If someone takes back your right to breath clean air, or swim in clean water, or your right to not become a wage-slave... Then its your right to take it back.

I don't like that word, it makes the pygmy dragons cry. :(

-Magpie, ruler of The Republic of BrakenwoodWhy does that post remind me so much of Lunatic Goofballs? *scratches head*

~Czardas, Supreme Ruler of the Universe

how is communism equal when theres still a ruler and everyone doesn't pull their share? same with democracy when an electorial college truly votes and not you. Sure, these may both be good things if they truly exist. but right now, they don't.

as for non-racism... yeah uh huh. everybodys a racist, they just don't know it yet. if not, why are we harassing muslims for trying to get on a plane even if they didn't do anything. yeah, you can't be truly non-prejudice untill you truly get the chance to prove it.

how is communism equal when theres still a ruler and everyone doesn't pull their share? same with democracy when an electorial college truly votes and not you. Sure, these may both be good things if they truly exist. but right now, they don't.

as for non-racism... yeah uh huh. everybodys a racist, they just don't know it yet. if not, why are we harassing muslims for trying to get on a plane even if they didn't do anything. yeah, you can't be truly non-prejudice untill you truly get the chance to prove it.

That's a very good point. Which is what the rest of the world sees. Believe it or not a Canadian, born in Syria named Amar Mahar, is going through a public inquiry in Canada, which could potentially topple the government, because the U.S. sent him to be tortured in Syria, whatever involvement the Canadian government had will be brought out, and the individuals charged. Unfortunately the LAWS are not passed that allow you to do that to people here... The US has the "Patriot Act", which means many many rights have been superceded, but hey, you guys voted it in...

Remember what the great Canadian Benjamin Franklin once said "People who give up Liberty for Security deserve neither Liberty, nor Security."

Everyone everywhere has the right to not be tortured. (Declaration of Human Rights) and even the DoD (Department of Defence) in Washington has a very large plaque that states (paraphrased) "Should our military do anything that is outside of the Geneva conventions, then the individuals involved are to be punished and those orders DO NOT need to be carried out." I recommend you go check out that plaque.

On communism... Commmunism isn't like that... It can be like that, which is called "Stalinism"... Thats like the same thing as saying "the US is a Democracy" no... its "Capitalist Democracy"...

Communism is not opposite of Democracy. They should be and can be Democratic Communism, or Demcratic Capitalism... Thats the problem... The "President" says "We are fighting for freedom and democracy" but they are not... They want to make certain all countries are "capitalist" not "communist" because "Capitalist" countries will allow them to "buy up" their country and resources... It has nothing to do with the people... its just a facade when Hitler (Authoritarian Fascism) or Stalin (Authoritarian Communism) or George W Bush (Authoritarian Capitalism/Nationalism) says it.

It's a way of manipulating people to fighting a war of ideologies.

Most of Europe and many other countries are working under Democratic Socialism, which is basically "Democratic Regulated Capitalism w/ Social Programs for the downtrodden"

You make your government, I recommend you try harder ;P