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Do you like George W. Bush? If so click this link: http://www.bushin30seconds.org/
If not click this link: http://www.bushin30seconds.org/

I merely dislike him.

In order to truly hate him, I'd have to know him personally and -fortunately- I do not.

Yep. Nuff said.

I downright hate him. That moron can rot in hell.

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So... "if Social Security aint broke..."

Funny, William Clinton, also said Social Security needed Fixing...
John Kerry Agreed that Social Security needed something to be done...
Most analysists and Financial Advisors say Something needs to be done with Social Security...

and Moveon.org claims that it's not broken...

so what's their source?

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I cant really say I hate him or like him...


I hate his policies, I hate him as a politician.

However, as a person, I don't know him, so I can't say. I think he would make a great neighbor. Someone to drink a few beers with and go see a movie or camping...Laura and whoever my imaginary wife is could trade cookie recipies or ways to grow nicer rose bushes.

Seems like a nice guy. I just don't want him leading the country and deciding my life for me

The Junk Yard']I downright hate him. That moron can rot in hell.

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Ah yes, the left is far more rational in thought than the right![/sarcasm]

Ah yes, the left is far more rational in thought than the right![/sarcasm]
This guy is not allowed to speak for the rest of us.

I like him. Granted, there are some things I don't agree with him on, but overall, I think he's done a pretty swell job as prez.

Here's to a free and democratic Middle East!

Moveon.org, funded by George Soros noted Anti-Bush guy? Like I'd trust them.

Nah, I just don't care for Bush. I'd rather not hate the guy, cause hate gets you noplace.

This guy is not allowed to speak for the rest of us.
Seconded.

I, for one, think it would've been funnier if the pretzel killed him. That's how much I like the man.

I, for one, think it would've been funnier if the pretzel killed him. That's how much I like the man.
A friend to the end.

A friend to the end.

What an odd coincidence. I'm listening to "What Do I Get" by the Buzzcocks, and Pete Shelley just uttered "I only want a friend who can stay to the end".

Heh.

nope

thats really a question that needs quailifications

do i like him better than say john kerry? hell yes(i've looked at john kerry's senate voting record)
do i trust him as a politician? hell no
would i get along with him personally? most likely, but then again i am not christian or religious
do i like him as a president? yes because he is doing the job he was elected to do, namely the primary responsibility of looking out for american interests abroad (same thing french president shirac does, just as he was elected to do by his people).

Rudely using other's work...

do i like him better than say john kerry? can't tell. or actually...no.
do i trust him as a politician? hell no.
would i get along with him personally? no.
do i like him as a president? I'm happy that he's not my president[/QUOTE]

My thinking on George Bush is this: there are so many people out there who hate him so vehemently, he's got to ge a great guy. Also you've got to admire a guy who's got the courage of his beliefs. Between Iraq and social security reform, I'm pretty confident that Dubya has got cojones the size of a Volkswagen bus.

I use to be indifferent towards him, but now for his idiotic stance on stem cell research, I am now one of those haters.

Do you like George W. Bush? If so click this link: http://www.bushin30seconds.org/
If not click this link: http://www.bushin30seconds.org/
Don't know him. He seems likeable enough. But that's not what you meant.

I'm happy with his tax cuts, but averse to his spending programs. I'm for fighting terrorists overseas, not in the U.S. If that means staying in Iraq, that's fine with me.

For a bunch that is really critical of over-generalizing, this is really a bad question.

I like him, because he makes it painful for Leftists to breathe when you mention his name.

As for stem-cell research, it won't be stopped. Just that the best work won't be done in the US is all. Just like mandatory live organ donation - if you don't allow it here, the industry will just move to China.

Do you like George W. Bush?Fried, or broiled?

So... "if Social Security aint broke..."

Funny, William Clinton, also said Social Security needed Fixing...
John Kerry Agreed that Social Security needed something to be done...
Most analysists and Financial Advisors say Something needs to be done with Social Security...

and Moveon.org claims that it's not broken...

so what's their source?What's broken in the Social Security System is who payouts are going to. The system was designed to provide a "social security" net for those workers who did NOT/do NOT have a retirement plan and/or enough money so they don't really need a retirement plan, and/or those with a retirement plan that is too small.

However, payouts are going to many who have a sufficient retirement plan already without the "social security" net.

Because they paid in. And, while that is true, it is not what the system was designed to do.

That is what needs fixing. And, if it were fixed, the system would NOT run out of funds.

Of course, what would happen is many of those who paid in for years and years, and find that they aren't ever going to get anything back would have a variety of cows.

I like him as a person but some of his decisions (border issue esp) really get my goat.

Someone who is hated by all of those whacko's from the left can't be all that bad.

Of course, what would happen is many of those who paid in for years and years, and find that they aren't ever going to get anything back would have a variety of cows.

You wouldn't have a problem with that?

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You wouldn't have a problem with that?Honestly, no, I wouldn't.

The only real alternative is to jack up the amounts that are taken out of everyone's salary enought to beef up the system enough so that everyone can get "payouts". That, I think, is worse than the alternative of simply not paying out to those who don't really need it, so that the system has enough money to provide payouts to those who do really need it.

It's called the "Social Security System". Not the "Get Back What You Put In" system. It is/was designed to be (dare I say it?) a socialist system whereby we all contribute a little our entire working lives, so that our friends and neighbors who don't have a decent retirement system will have one.

Honestly, no, I wouldn't.

The only real alternative is to jack up the amounts that are taken out of everyone's salary enought to beef up the system enough so that everyone can get "payouts". That, I think, is worse than the alternative of simply not paying out to those who don't really need it, so that the system has enough money to provide payouts to those who do really need it.

It's called the "Social Security System". Not the "Get Back What You Put In" system. It is/was designed to be (dare I say it?) a socialist system whereby we all contribute a little our entire working lives, so that our friends and neighbors who don't have a decent retirement system will have one.


It was never meant to be a retirement system. It was there to help you out when you needed a little extra. If you don't save anything on your own and rely on SS you really are a moron.

It was never meant to be a retirement system. It was there to help you out when you needed a little extra. If you don't save anything on your own and rely on SS you really are a moron.Wrong on count 1, wrong on count 2, wrong-ish on count 3, and wrong on count 4.

1. It WAS designed to be a retirement system for those who don't/didn't have one.

2. It was NOT designed to provide a little extra to everybody. That's what it's doing, but not what the intent was. It had to be created that way because too many of the then Senators/Congressmen wouldn't have passed a socialist program.

3. On point three, that if you don't save some yourself as you go you are "a moron", true...provided you are able to earn enough to provide for yourself and/or family as you go, and there's any left to save. For some folks, there isn't. THEY are among those for whom this program was designed.

4. And, I aint a moron. ;)

(the system as originally designed was a socialist program, and would not have paid out to everyone. however, in order to get the thing in place, it had to be re-designed because the then congress would not have passed a socialist system into law. now, we are stuck with a program that everyone believes is an entitlement, and they will get something back from. it wasn't supposed to be that way, and if it were re-vamped to what was originally envisioned, the system would work. but, there would be all these extra cows...;) )


Of course, what would happen is many of those who paid in for years and years, and find that they aren't ever going to get anything back would have a variety of cows.

I like him. He's a nice, funny guy, and I think that he has the best interests of America in mind. I don't like how he lets himself be manipulated by his advisors. But that doesn't influence my opinion of him as a person.

Wrong on count 1, wrong on count 2, wrong-ish on count 3, and wrong on count 4.

1. It WAS designed to be a retirement system for those who don't/didn't have one.

2. It was NOT designed to provide a little extra to everybody. That's what it's doing, but not what the intent was. It had to be created that way because too many of the then Senators/Congressmen wouldn't have passed a socialist program.

3. On point three, that if you don't save some yourself as you go you are "a moron", true...provided you are able to earn enough to provide for yourself and/or family as you go, and there's any left to save. For some folks, there isn't. THEY are among those for whom this program was designed.

4. And, I aint a moron. ;)

(the system as originally designed was a socialist program, and would not have paid out to everyone. however, in order to get the thing in place, it had to be re-designed because the then congress would not have passed a socialist system into law. now, we are stuck with a program that everyone believes is an entitlement, and they will get something back from. it wasn't supposed to be that way, and if it were re-vamped to what was originally envisioned, the system would work. but, there would be all these extra cows...;) )


Prove everything you just said!

Do I like George W. Bush?


Not particularly.



I hate his policies, however.

~Czardas, Supreme Ruler of the Universe

I like President Bush.

My nation Idiot - Land
Motto - I Am An Idiot And Proud Of It
National Animal - The Cuckoo Bird
National Currency - The Euro

The Cuckoo Bird is a european bird
from germany and other places
according to my research.

The Cuckoo Bird sounds like Cuckoo
as in crazy like an idiot.

This should have been a public poll.

Prove everything you just said!Get bent

I don't like Bush.

Ah yes, the left is far more rational in thought than the right![/sarcasm]
How can extremely large collective political groups have thoughts?

I don't like Bush.


How can extremely large collective political groups have thoughts?Apparently s/he means that the people in each political group have thoughts. Not that they do, but still...

~Czardas, Supreme Ruler of the Universe

Wrong on count 1, wrong on count 2, wrong-ish on count 3, and wrong on count 4.

1. It WAS designed to be a retirement system for those who don't/didn't have one.

2. It was NOT designed to provide a little extra to everybody. That's what it's doing, but not what the intent was. It had to be created that way because too many of the then Senators/Congressmen wouldn't have passed a socialist program.

3. On point three, that if you don't save some yourself as you go you are "a moron", true...provided you are able to earn enough to provide for yourself and/or family as you go, and there's any left to save. For some folks, there isn't. THEY are among those for whom this program was designed.

4. And, I aint a moron. ;)

(the system as originally designed was a socialist program, and would not have paid out to everyone. however, in order to get the thing in place, it had to be re-designed because the then congress would not have passed a socialist system into law. now, we are stuck with a program that everyone believes is an entitlement, and they will get something back from. it wasn't supposed to be that way, and if it were re-vamped to what was originally envisioned, the system would work. but, there would be all these extra cows...;) )

It was designed to start paying you, when the average life expectancy was like 65. In other words, the system was based on the idea that you would die before you got your money back.

Apparently s/he means that the people in each political group have thoughts. Not that they do, but still...
lol

No


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and no
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and bozo

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lol If you haven't already guessed, I was joking. ;)

Or was I?

~Czardas, Supreme Ruler of the Universe

Well, I like him as a person. I think he's a good father and a good husband for his family.

However, I put "I don't like him", because of the way he runs the country. So basically I'd say it's nothing personal. I just don't like conservative Republicans.

The Junk Yard']I downright hate him. That moron can rot in hell.

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My opinion exactly!

i understand if u hate his policies (which i dont for the most part).. but personally.. have you ever seen him speak with normal people without political string attached? hes a very nice and humble man. Though his grammer is kinda.. ok very.. bad, judge not his character by his words, judge his character by his content.

I don't like him. I can't say I hate him, really, because I don't know him, but...I really dislike his policies.

I dislike George W. Bush. Not the person, but the politics he operate with. For instance, the invasions of foreign sovereign nations to impose his will upon the poor people of those nations (Iraq, Afghanistan).

Observe the inequality:
John F. Kerry < George W Bush < 0 < Ron Paul < Michael Badnarik.

I like him. He's a decent president, but he could do much better, IE the Mexican border, and getting Social security fixed. Mainly I like him cause he's not afraid to kick some ass. He's not afraid to defend our country, and he's not afraid to bring freedom to countries that are in desperate need of it. Hats off to you, Bush.

Prove everything you just said!So - the other day my response to this was "Gent bent".

While I didn't really have the time, that really wasn't a nice response.

So - today, my response is - "Read this"

How And Why Our Social Security System Came Into Being (http://www.ssa.gov/history/briefhistory3.html) … this website is the official US Social Security Administration website

There is a LOT there about the How and Why. If you read it, I think you'' find that I was quite a bit more right than wrong.

He is one of the top five people i would feel no regret over shooting. the others are janet street porter, jade goody, scallies (i'm including all of them as one person...just go with me on this one) and Michael Howard.

I hate George W. Bush the politician, but not George W. Bush the man. The man I merely dislike strongly.

Observe the inequality:
John F. Kerry < George W Bush < 0 < Ron Paul < Michael Badnarik.

I like Ron Paul too. If only there were more guys like him, Badnarik, and Tancredo in power. :(

Hate is a powerful word; I shall say I have a severe dislike for him.

Why?
1) He runs many left wing economic policies while claiming to be a believer in neo-liberal economics (I think Americans choose the term conservative economics)

2) His homophobic political stances

3) His disrepect for the enivroment

4) A poorly planned, justified and fought war in Iraq

5) His love of the death penalty

6) There is something I just don't like about him

I have a deep loathing for him and pity on the nation he governs.

To quote the French - NON.

I've never met him, and therefore I have a completly neutral opinion on him as a person. However, when it comes to his policies... could be a lot better, could be a lot worse.

His GRAMMAR, on the other hand... :headbang:

Ah yes, the left is far more rational in thought than the right![/sarcasm]

There was no mention of the Left, or the Right in the post you quoted, only the feelings towards Bush as an individual.

Do you like George W. Bush?

I love him and want to have his babies

This guy is not allowed to speak for the rest of us.

he speaks for me...

i don't hear much from the Left (at least not in the first ten posts) explaining exactly what Bush has done that they think is so horrible. Maybe they hate freedom.

Bush has done quite well considering that he came into office with a falling stock market and soon after that had to endure 9/11, probably the toughest event for any American president.

Since then, he has orchestrated:

a)Deposing the Taliban in Afghanistan

b)Deposing Saddam Hussein in Iraq, giving the Iraqis a free vote

c)Ongoing hunt for UBL and other Al Qaeda... have 500+ terrorists captured and incarcerated in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba... probably thousands more terrorists killed... the War on Terror is alive and well. Iraq's top Al Qaeda chief (wait... Iraq doesn't have ties to Al Qaeda, right? LMAO!) is wounded.

d)The economy, thanks to tax cuts for all, has responded positively after the lows of 9/11. The Dow is actually undervalued, as people are underinvesting...

e)He's trying to give people a Social Security option of investing some of their money in stock plan(s)... unfortunately, some people don't understand how money works and are bad-mouthing this option for no justifiable reason. Apparently it's better to let your money sit with the government, gathering no interest and actually losing value over time due to inflation... than it is to put it in stocks where it has a virtually guaranteed chance of growing over time, even after counting the effects of inflation. The opposition to this makes absolutely no sense. People are irrationally afraid of investing, I guess. It's much better to spend your money on the lottery.

f)He is not a two-faced liar like Clinton (and half of all politicians, at least)was. If I have to choose between a slick politician who will say anything to get your vote or one who will say what he actually thinks... give me the honest "moron" every time. Only Bush is a "moron" with a Yale degree and an MBA. He might sound stupid, but he isn't.

I like bush. hehe

He speaks for the wealthy and for big business. If he were to rescind the tax cut he gave the upper income people, and business, there would be no Social Security problem.

We'll never get an honest politician, because the candidate would have to get up and say, "We have to raise taxes to lower the big hockin' enoromous deficeit."

I'm always reminded of this line when I think of the imaginary figure; the honest politician: "You can't handle the truth!"

I'd be willing to pay more taxes rather than watch our country sink, and actually have Social Security.

Ah, don't get me started, I'll be here all day/night! :rolleyes:

Bush has systematically lied to both the American people and the world community to start an unnecessary war. Regardless of whether or not you know him personally, this is a despicable and morally reprehensible act. 1,600 Americans and more than 20,000 Iraqis have died in a war that Bush wanted even before he was elected President. I did not like Clinton either, but there is no level of moral equivalency here. Lying about an affair and misusing the power of your office to cover it up is disgusting and ammoral, but to lie to start a war that kills thousands is absolutely horrendous. Even if you accept some of the theories that Clinton possibly lied about Kosovo, more people have died in the Iraqi War than in the Kosovo War.

Even if you argue that Bush is engaged in raison d'etat, it is not a rational or efficient raison d'etat. The war in Iraq has sidetracked the U.S. from the hunt for Osama bin Laden, and is creating a whole new generation of terrorists through America's occupation of Iraq. Bush has had success obfuscating the issue with his rhetoric about democracy, but this is an ex post facto justification for the war. There were no weapons of mass destruction and Iraq had no links with al-Qaida. And the war spending combined with his reckless tax cuts has the potential to eventually ruin the American economy.

But the final straw is how arrogant and flippant he seems about the fact that his policies are inept and completely undermining America. He calls himself a Christian but does things antithetical to the spirit of Jesus, he calls himself a patriot but does things that are ruining America, and he uses lies and propaganda to achieve his ends. He is tunnel visioned, and I realize that I might suffer from an equal amount of tunnel vision, but I know that I should not be President. He does not. I do not have to know him personally in order to hate him. What he has done to America and the world is reason enough to despise him.

Vendemiaire

All murderers are punished unless they kill in large numbers and to the sound of trumpets.
--Voltaire