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The boy slaps the stranger across the face, videos the horrified reaction, and e-mails it to all his chums

In the past few months, a new “craze” has bowled through London, like no craze as we formerly knew it. Round my way, in the olden days, it was pogo-sticks, Clackers, Rubik’s Cubes and ‘Umbongo, Umbongo, They Drink It In The Congo’. To my knowledge, no one was hurt or arrested in pursuit of these larks, though my sister, once, literally peed herself laughing on a pogo-stick – which would constitute, these days, a children’s playground hazard and 12 months observing an ASBO with a shed affixed to her leg.

This new wheeze, though, is a 21st-Century stormer: it’s called ‘Happy Slapping’. It’s a teenage boy’s sport, it involves technology and it goes like this: boy is excited about having a videophone the price of a second-hand car, boy sees 100 per cent oblivious stranger in a public place (usually much older, male or female), slaps them across the face, videos the horrified reaction and sends it to all his chums, instantaneously becoming the coolest wag alive, and girls want to hang on his every word.

Call me old-fashioned, but this used to be called assault. It’s grim, pitiful stuff, but here’s some encouraging news: trawl the mean streets of cyberspace and The Kids are just as appalled. “I think it will get old and not cool,” writes one, “They’ll wake up and stop being so totally immature.” “It’s a direct result,” scolds another, “of lack of consequence in this country.”

I think we should have "happy shooting", which is where yobs get shot and everyone's happy about it.

'Happy slapping' girl held
May 22, 2005

A teenage girl has been arrested for "happy slapping" her schoolmate, in the latest case in Britain of a new phenomenon of physical attacks carried out to be filmed on video-capable mobile telephones.

The 16-year-old, who was not named, is suspected of attacking Becky Smith, also 16, who was left unconscious near her home outside Manchester.

Becky spent two nights in hospital, temporarily paralysed, after the assault by a teenage gang, who then circulated pictures of the attack.

What a pussy way of assaulting a person. Only in England.

ROFLMAO

That is the funniest craze ever! God damn that would be hilarious to see someone just run up, slap the crap out of some random person, and videophone it.

Now it is assault... but its the funniest form of assault possible.

They wouldn't get a "horrified reaction" from me, unless you count being knocked on your ass and kicked in the ribs until they all break a "horrified reaction"

kewl... so when I beat the s**t outta that person who slaps me, there will be evidence that he attacked me and I acted outta self defense...

Me like... :D

Just gotta remember not to destroy the phone...

hope that dosent catch on here.

The little fucker would get a tape of me kicking his/her ass.

21 May 2005

THE cancer-hit girlfriend of TV star Matthew Wright told last night how she was beaten, mocked and filmed by yobs in a Happy Slapping attack.

In scenes that hit a new low even for such a sick craze, Caroline Monk - who has lost her hair from chemotherapy - was hit in the face and punched to the ground by a boy aged 12 to 15 just for the hell of it.

Then four other thugs piled in, branding her a "slaphead" and filming her on a mobile phone so others could gloat over her ordeal.

Writer Caroline, 35, who has been battling aggressive breast cancer for eight months, is now recovering on spiritual retreat in Ibiza.

Caroline was set upon by the cowardly gang as she walked through Primrose Hill, North London, with her mother Carol, 60.

Boyfriend Matthew, 37 - who presents The Wright Stuff on Five - told the Mirror: "The first thing she knew about it was when one of the thugs broke away from the group and sprinted towards her at full pelt with his arm outstretched. It went straight into her face.

"Caroline was knocked to the ground and left lying there in a total daze. The boys ganged up and gathered round her, shouting, 'Slaphead! Slaphead!' Finally, they took the obligatory mobile phone photo.

Man you do that to the wrong person in America, even a nice town, they're going to blast you. Run you over. Or way worse. I would have to guess it's only a matter of time before someone gets beaten to death for that.

god i hope that catches on in america, then ill have a good excuse to beat the crap out of some idiot.

Teenagers suspected of beating a 72-year-old man to death on his own doorstep... a funeral cortege attacked with a plank hurled through the windscreen of a car full of mourners... a schoolgirl beaten unconscious in a 'happy slapping' assault, her ordeal filmed and shown to her friends... a school wrecked by vandals aged six, four and three... a man terribly injured when he confronted the young savages stoning his car...

These are just some of the common-or-garden stories of everyday yobbery in modern Britain, reflecting the experience of countless decent people at the hands of what one police chief describes as gangs of 'feral youths'.

Today, for example, we carry an interview with the funeral mourners who were attacked. They are elderly ladies who have suffered in a way that would once have seemed unthinkable. Yet we cannot publish their identities, because they fear the vengeance of their assailants.

And the tragedy is they have reason to be frightened. Who would protect them if the mob targeted their home? Police? The courts? Sadly, the law seems to care more about yobs than their victims.

The experience of teacher Linda Walker is a stark example of how vulnerable ordinary people have become. For months her house was targeted by yobs. Finally she cracked and fired an air pistol at the feet of a youth she believed responsible.

Of course her action can't be condoned. But the system showed no sympathy for her predicament. Not only was she jailed, but she has lost her job. Her tormentors are still free and untroubled by the law.

Meanwhile, our politicians issue reams of centrally-inspired social diktats on police, schools and communities in an attempt to 'impose' respect on our streets.

They do so seemingly blithely unaware that it is their measures that have contributed so much to this problem by undermining the strength of the family.

The trouble is the UK's stance toward crime. There's way too many examples of people getting in trouble for self-defense.

god i hope that catches on in america, then ill have a good excuse to beat the crap out of some idiot.
how many "children" can you take on?

3? 5? 8?

hope that dosent catch on here.
There is some countries where it should never catch up...

like Singapore... or Iran...

basically most countries south of mexico, most countries south of France and of course most of Asia.

There is some countries where it should never catch up...

like Singapore... or Iran...

basically most countries south of mexico, most countries south of France and of course most of Asia.
Even Mexico. Heck, most places south of Oklahoma for that matter.

In the past few months, a new “craze” has bowled through London, like no craze as we formerly knew it. Round my way, in the olden days, it was pogo-sticks, Clackers, Rubik’s Cubes and ‘Umbongo, Umbongo, They Drink It In The Congo’. To my knowledge, no one was hurt or arrested in pursuit of these larks, though my sister, once, literally peed herself laughing on a pogo-stick – which would constitute, these days, a children’s playground hazard and 12 months observing an ASBO with a shed affixed to her leg.

The guy you are quoting really should have done some research: clackers were the cause of scores of eye injuries and were pulled from the shelves following national outcry. But hey - what else can you expect from The Sunday Herald?

The guy you are quoting really should have done some research: clackers were the cause of scores of eye injuries and were pulled from the shelves following national outcry. But hey - what else can you expect from The Sunday Herald?
so....is that a good source?

is that a good source?

The Sunday Herald?

The Sunday Herald?Ya...

if they are a poor source tell my what are your favorite sources.

Ya...

if they are a poor source tell my what are your favorite sources.

No, I'm not arguing with the veracity of what they are saying in general - there does seem to be a fad for this assault on video-phone, but like most Sunday papers they do tend to sometimes let the light and chatty style get in the way of contextualising things, like here for example.

No, I'm not arguing with the veracity of what they are saying in general - there does seem to be a fad for this assault on video-phone, but like most Sunday papers they do tend to sometimes let the light and chatty style get in the way of contextualising things, like here for example.
they are chatty indeed :)

21 May 2005

THE cancer-hit girlfriend of TV star Matthew Wright told last night how she was beaten, mocked and filmed by yobs in a Happy Slapping attack.

In scenes that hit a new low even for such a sick craze, Caroline Monk - who has lost her hair from chemotherapy - was hit in the face and punched to the ground by a boy aged 12 to 15 just for the hell of it.

Then four other thugs piled in, branding her a "slaphead" and filming her on a mobile phone so others could gloat over her ordeal.

Writer Caroline, 35, who has been battling aggressive breast cancer for eight months, is now recovering on spiritual retreat in Ibiza.

Caroline was set upon by the cowardly gang as she walked through Primrose Hill, North London, with her mother Carol, 60.

Boyfriend Matthew, 37 - who presents The Wright Stuff on Five - told the Mirror: "The first thing she knew about it was when one of the thugs broke away from the group and sprinted towards her at full pelt with his arm outstretched. It went straight into her face.

"Caroline was knocked to the ground and left lying there in a total daze. The boys ganged up and gathered round her, shouting, 'Slaphead! Slaphead!' Finally, they took the obligatory mobile phone photo.

What's funny about that? (directed to the fellow who said it's the 'funniest kind of assault') This 'reality TV' generation takes things too far. Sounds like A CLOCKWORK ORANGE.

That's assault and those kids deserve a year's double drill at military camp. That should SLAP some reality into them.

Maharlikana

Maharlikana

The little fucker would get a tape of me kicking his/her ass.
You're that strong even at that age? :fluffle: :D

What a pussy way of assaulting a person. Only in England.

I concur.

This pisses me off. It happened to a Canadian friend of mine in Jamaica once (we were on vacation together) and the little English prick ran off with his tail between his legs. And his little prissy camera smashed too...

I think that if people started doing that here, they would get the living crap kicked out of them, or they would get shot. Almost anyone who isn't a felon, and is over 21 is allowed to carry a concealed weapon without a permit, and plenty do. Slap the wrong guy and he may freak out and shoot you. It would be legal, because it is self defense. Also LOTS of people carry revolvers in their cars, and not a pussy 9mm, but a .44 Mag, or a .454 Casull, or a .500 Winchester Magnum,any of which would blow a HUGE hole in a person. Plus, what the heck are these kids thinking?!?

( I live in Alaska )

how many "children" can you take on?

3? 5? 8?

i could certainly take five, if they weren't trained to fight together, and a couple more if they weren't trained at all, and i'm just a Californian. i pity the moron who tries this in say, Alabama, and gets blasted.

I think that if people started doing that here, they would get the living crap kicked out of them, or they would get shot. Almost anyone who isn't a felon, and is over 21 is allowed to carry a concealed weapon without a permit, and plenty do. Slap the wrong guy and he may freak out and shoot you. It would be legal, because it is self defense. Also LOTS of people carry revolvers in their cars, and not a pussy 9mm, but a .44 Mag, or a .454 Casull, or a .500 Winchester Magnum,any of which would blow a HUGE hole in a person. Plus, what the heck are these kids thinking?!?

Same down here... I'd love to blow a hole in some little punk...

...Slap the wrong guy and he may freak out and shoot you. It would be legal, because it is self defense...[/B]

Okay, let me set everyone at ease about the American legal system.a Killing someone else is NEVER legal, except in Washington if you have their permission, i believe. Homocide MIGHT be ruled justified by a federal judge, and ONLY if it can be conclusively proven that you killed someone in order to prevent them from killing someone else (Say, you for example).

Okay, let me set everyone at ease about the American legal system.a Killing someone else is NEVER legal, except in Washington if you have their permission, i believe. Homocide MIGHT be ruled justified by a federal judge, and ONLY if it can be conclusively proven that you killed someone in order to prevent them from killing someone else (Say, you for example).

In Florida you have "the right to shoot", where if someone threatens your life you can shoot them, and here, if someone assaults you (like this) you shoot them, and say it was self-defense, which it was. Assault and battery is illegal, and you CAN defend yourself. Just like private property, if someone tresspasses, and you have it posted "no tressspassing" you can legally shoot them, for criminal tresspass.

Same down here... I'd love to blow a hole in some little punk...

Watch what you say! There was a thread a while back about a little old lady who's doing time for firing her BB gun on a bunch of sorry punks who kept vandalizing her house. Oh and Mr.Martin who's in jail for shooting the 16 year old accomplice to a robber who were both in his house.

We should just take this foolishness lying down I guess.

Maharlikana

You live in California!! You cannot even buy a rifle with a thumbhole in the stock!

With a $200 tax stamp I can buy a silencer, or shotgun with a barrel less than 18"! And, I know probably 150-200 people in my town who have them, and I am sure many more do, but don't tell other people they have them!

Watch what you say! There was a thread a while back about a little old lady who's doing time for firing her BB gun on a bunch of sorry punks who kept vandalizing her house. Oh and Mr.Martin who's in jail for shooting the 16 year old accomplice to a robber who were both in his house.

We should just take this foolishness lying down I guess.

Maharlikana

>.< Damn arrogant kids.

how many "children" can you take on?

3? 5? 8?
simple. carry pepper spray and when there on the ground, kick them in stomach.

simple. carry pepper spray and when there on the ground, kick them in stomach.
or maybe a taser :mp5:

simple. carry pepper spray and when there on the ground, kick them in stomach.
It's as simple as getting a maniacal grin in your face, and beating the crap out of the first one, don't stop until his face is a bloody pulp, the rest should freak. Psycho beats all.

They wouldn't get a "horrified reaction" from me, unless you count being knocked on your ass and kicked in the ribs until they all break a "horrified reaction"
That would look great on a videophone.

So far, when belligerent people see that I have a pistol, they take it upon themselves to leave.

god i hope that catches on in america, then ill have a good excuse to beat the crap out of some idiot.
I remember about 10 or 12 years ago there were some teens going around Trenton playing a game to see who could knock a random stranger out with one punch. One of them suckerpunched a guy who fell and hit his head on the curb. He died, all the teenagers involved went to prison.

You notice how they always pick on 16 year old girls or 72 year old men or chemotherapy patients. You don't ever hear about these things happening to 6'8", 350 lbs. guys with six inch goatees and 150 pounds of leather.

how many "children" can you take on?

3? 5? 8?
All depends how strong you are, how well trained you are, and how well armed you are.

I remember about 10 or 12 years ago there were some teens going around Trenton playing a game to see who could knock a random stranger out with one punch. One of them suckerpunched a guy who fell and hit his head on the curb. He died, all the teenagers involved went to prison.

Are you sure that wasn't Newark?

Are you sure that wasn't Newark?
I thought it was Trenton. But it was quite a few years ago so I might be mistaken.

I've always been fascinated by the different aspects of New Jersey, all right on top of each other.

You can live in a place as nice as Holmdel, or a hole like Newark or Trenton.

All depends how strong you are, how well trained you are, and how well armed you are.or wheter some of the "children" are armed too.... have you ever been to LA?

The boy slaps the stranger across the face, videos the horrified reaction, and e-mails it to all his chums

In the past few months, a new “craze” has bowled through London, like no craze as we formerly knew it. Round my way, in the olden days, it was pogo-sticks, Clackers, Rubik’s Cubes and ‘Umbongo, Umbongo, They Drink It In The Congo’. To my knowledge, no one was hurt or arrested in pursuit of these larks, though my sister, once, literally peed herself laughing on a pogo-stick – which would constitute, these days, a children’s playground hazard and 12 months observing an ASBO with a shed affixed to her leg.

This new wheeze, though, is a 21st-Century stormer: it’s called ‘Happy Slapping’. It’s a teenage boy’s sport, it involves technology and it goes like this: boy is excited about having a videophone the price of a second-hand car, boy sees 100 per cent oblivious stranger in a public place (usually much older, male or female), slaps them across the face, videos the horrified reaction and sends it to all his chums, instantaneously becoming the coolest wag alive, and girls want to hang on his every word.

Call me old-fashioned, but this used to be called assault. It’s grim, pitiful stuff, but here’s some encouraging news: trawl the mean streets of cyberspace and The Kids are just as appalled. “I think it will get old and not cool,” writes one, “They’ll wake up and stop being so totally immature.” “It’s a direct result,” scolds another, “of lack of consequence in this country.”
take all the chavs who do it, and a few more for good measure, and send them all off for a free holiday to an industrial sized incinerator.
sod pacifism for a change ;)


i have yet to experience this stupid new craze, but i think a) thats only becuase i haven't really been out in a few weeks and b) i'm a prime target. woohoo.

You notice how they always pick on 16 year old girls or 72 year old men or chemotherapy patients. You don't ever hear about these things happening to 6'8", 350 lbs. guys with six inch goatees and 150 pounds of leather.


Exactly.... and I love the way lots of people are so desensitised to violence they can't even tell.

*slap*
BLAM BLAM BLAM! (what a mature and enlightened response... it's almost like... wait a minute, I'm getting it here... how are you any better than those people? Two wrongs don't make a right.)

oh yeah.... self... defense... you do realise they'd be able to prove it wasn't self defense just by seeing that the bullet holes were made in his/her back?

The tactic, unless it is a full blown GBH assault, is to slap, photograph (I'm assuming that this would be done within a few seconds, and run like hell. Unless you can pull and fire like a cowboy, they WILL be running away when the first shot goes off.

Unless you can pull and fire like a cowboy, they WILL be running away when the first shot goes off.

Yes I can, and no they won't.

Yes I can, and no they won't.

How does this make you any better than they are, though? Should they survive, I would hope that both would be charged with the level of assault commited. Attempted murder for you, and assault for them. Of course, if it was a proportional response, I'd have no problem... say they try to shoot you, but unless, like I said, it is beating, and not a single slap... you can't justify it... not to me, anyway.

oh, and on the British farmer thing, there is a reason he is in jail. He shot the burglers in the back as they were running away. So it was not in self defense, as he was in no threat.

...I would hope that both would be charged with the level of assault commited. Attempted murder for you, and assault for them. Of course, if it was a proportional response, I'd have no problem... say they try to shoot you, but unless, like I said, it is beating, and not a single slap... you can't justify it... not to me, anyway...yes, but...

in this case...what is an proportional response?

can you give us a realistic example?

I've always been fascinated by the different aspects of New Jersey, all right on top of each other.

You can live in a place as nice as Holmdel, or a hole like Newark or Trenton.
I like Trenton.

or wheter some of the "children" are armed too.... have you ever been to LA?
No thanks. I've seen armed teenagers in Philadelphia and here in NJ.

yes, but...

in this case...what is an proportional response?

can you give us a realistic example?

Hitting them back, I would imagine. Certainly not trying to end their life because they slapped you.

Proportional response isn't in effect here. Maybe where you are.

If I'm in fear of my life, I can shoot. If they did this at night, or in what we call "the wrong neighborhood", certain "fearful" aspects are in effect.

If I'm outnumbered by people roughly my size, and one of those people (who are obviously together) initiates an assault, I am under no compunction to wait and see what happens. It will not be possible for the person who punched or slapped me to turn around before they are shot two or three times through the chest, so there won't be any bullet holes in the back - other than those created by the bullets that came in the front.

In most places in the US now, you don't have to wait until you've already been seriously injured by a felon before you can react - and your method of reacting can be any that is designed to "stop" the felon.

yes, but...

in this case...what is an proportional response?

can you give us a realistic example?

Yes, because it's easy to tell. In order for them to take the picture of it and upload it, they must be gone in a matter of seconds. A realistic response would be to grab/tackle the youngster, or taser them, or pepper spray them if possible, and smash their phone to little tiny pieces to get them back. Personally I'd keep it, but never mind. I'm sure that if you gave him a few bruised ribs for the trouble that nobody would really look at it. Anyone who uses a gun for the convenience doesn't deserve to own one, in my opinion.

Anything that allows the person to actually go about living, with a few bruises and down one expensive phone, to me is a proportional response.

You cannot realistically argue that a gun is a proportional response unless they make an attempt on your life (or at least seriously wound you), and by the time you draw a gun, you will be able to see if they are attempting to do such a thing. if they are, they won't have taken a photo of you. It's not like you don't have time to figure out the situation.

Yes I can, and no they won't.

Em.. a bit off topic, I've seen you talking or braging (no offence) about your shooting skills... and I was just wondering if you are a member of any special foreces or something simial, becouse if you want to be that good you have to practive for years...

Jordaxia, you've never been a victim of armed robbery before.

They don't start nicely, and they don't warn you. They beat you first - and then make their demands. Sometimes, if you're alert enough, you'll see them working themselves up to hit you - they're nervous and agitated.

Probably the same pattern as someone stupid enough to punch me for fun and get a photo of it.

I don't have to wait until later. And I can and I have stopped people from robbing me.

There's a split second after the gun comes out and I'm in the crouch when their raised hand (to strike) suddenly disappears as they run.

No one has the right to hit me. I don't have to stand there and let anyone hit me. And I don't have to necessarily shoot anyone - but the option is certainly there. If I deem the circumstances appropriate, I have the option to do so before they can turn away.

Proportional response isn't in effect here. Maybe where you are.

If I'm in fear of my life, I can shoot. If they did this at night, or in what we call "the wrong neighborhood", certain "fearful" aspects are in effect.

If I'm outnumbered by people roughly my size, and one of those people (who are obviously together) initiates an assault, I am under no compunction to wait and see what happens. It will not be possible for the person who punched or slapped me to turn around before they are shot two or three times through the chest, so there won't be any bullet holes in the back - other than those created by the bullets that came in the front.

In most places in the US now, you don't have to wait until you've already been seriously injured by a felon before you can react - and your method of reacting can be any that is designed to "stop" the felon.


Firstly, if there is a group of them, it's a lot safer to assume they won't stop at a slap, so I have to say, I wouldn't necessarily be against it there, because you can't be sure. However the majority of the attacks are just one person, who slaps and takes a picture and runs, rather quickly. Unless you shoot before you are hit, then you are going to be hit. There's nothing you can do. However, you smash them in the teeth, and they won't be fighting back. It's not hollywood, and they aren't expecting it. That's a response that's acceptable. Like I said in the last post. if you use a gun for convenience, in my mind, you don't deserve it.

Jordaxia, you've never been a victim of armed robbery before...have you? (by armed I dont mean knife)
how did you deal with it?

Fortunately for me, the place I live doesn't regard my pistol as a convenience, nor do they have the right to arbitrarily decide who may and may not carry a pistol - unless you're a convicted felon, they must let you carry.

As I said, it's been quite effective at preventing a repeat incident - all without killing anyone so far.

But this is nothing like the UK. The felons here are not joking around, nor are they hurting people out of some need.

There was a man here recently who gave the group of felons his money. They were robbing him behind the Multiplex Theater in Merrifield.

Then, for sport, they cut his hands off with a machete. I've talked to him since. He believed, as you do, that you have time to make these decisions - that if you cooperate, it can only work out well. That if you give them their money, and let them slap you a bit, it will be ok.

He knows differently now.

Jordaxia, you've never been a victim of armed robbery before.

No, of course not. I live in a country where firearms are a rarity and am only 18 years old. The chances of it happening to me are minimal.
Even were it legal, I would not carry a firearm, because I just don't want one. I wouldn't use one. You're prepared to live with potential consequences of owning a firearm, I'm prepared to live with mine, even were it legal.

They don't start nicely, and they don't warn you. They beat you first - and then make their demands. Sometimes, if you're alert enough, you'll see them working themselves up to hit you - they're nervous and agitated.

You'd have to have superman vision, or be genuinely paranoid, to see that happening in a crowded street. These aren't beatings, remember. These are single strikes followed by running really fast. You can't give them the same characteristics.

Probably the same pattern as someone stupid enough to punch me for fun and get a photo of it.

like I said, I doubt it. They're not even similar attacks. One is based on causing you major injury, the other just to see the look on your face.

I don't have to wait until later. And I can and I have stopped people from robbing me.

There's a split second after the gun comes out and I'm in the crouch when their raised hand (to strike) suddenly disappears as they run.

if you can do that, good for you. By all means, use the gun to defuse the situation non-violently. However, it would be foolish to believe that most people can do that. Fear, a lack of formal training... I can't see anyone keeping control when those two combine with possession of a firearm.

No one has the right to hit me. I don't have to stand there and let anyone hit me. And I don't have to necessarily shoot anyone - but the option is certainly there. If I deem the circumstances appropriate, I have the option to do so before they can turn away.

Well of course they don't. But If it's one person, as the majority of cases are, it's just as easy to put them on the ground by smashing them in the face as they take a photograph.



I think our main disagreement here is that we're both talking about opposing extremes. I'm talking about the far more common, single person who slaps, takes a photo and runs like hell. You're talking about a large group of people who obviously, by their gathering to do this, don't intend to stop there. In your situation, I agree with a use, or showing, of overwhelming force. In my situation, it's utterly un-necessary. There is a vast difference between my situation, and the unfortunate man who had his hands removed with a machete. There is a significantly smaller one with your situation, and again, that man.

To quote my favorite fictional liberal: What is the virtue of a proportional response? To say that knecapping a person who purposely attacks an inocent is as bad as attacking an inocent is ridiculous. It also helps to promote this kind of garbage. I would still limit myself to crippling the bastard for life!
Anything that allows the person to actually go about living, with a few bruises and down one expensive phone, to me is a proportional response.

Not sure how many people who have posted yet live in london but:

-the happy slapping discribed here is pretty minor to some of the stuff that goes on

-now kids have started using belts to hit people on buses

-it generally isnt one kid, it will be a group of them. They wont just slap you, but batter the living crap out of you

-there is one video of a groupd of kids smashing a girls head repeatadly into a brickwall

-they have also started filming sexual assaults. girls being forced to give head on camera

-the only reason i havent got happy slapped yet is that i go to a pretty middle class sixth form in north london and id ont use public transport, I cycle. My being 6' 3" and generally travelling with friends of equal height might also have something to do with it. Though one of my friends had the pleasure of being belted across the face and then pushed into a huge pile netles on camera.

-Whispering Legs has the right idea. However i dont belive that we should legalise guns in the uk, im for the mass slaughter of all these rude boys who contribute nohing to society and are just a drain on resources. They should simply be killed in the most effeciant way possible, such as tying several thousand of them onto a barge and sinking it in the north sea.

Theres one very easy way of stopping it. As soon as the little bastard starts filming, jump on him. Smash him to the ground, land on top of him, and slam his head into the pavement. Yell a warcry or similar. Then tear his throat out with your teeth, or (assuming you can open your mouth far enough) clamp your jaws around his face and tear bits off. Turn to face the camera with blood running down your chin. Smile evilly, then say "That could be you!". Post it on every "happy slapping" website that you can find. Feel satisfied at a community service well done.

Edit: Shit, dude. Forced to give head on camera? Sick fuckers. Kill 'em all!

Forced to give head? Whatever happened to biting the bastards dick off?

If an individual tries it on me they are asking to be strangled and beaten into a wall. If a group tries. I'll trust my legs to carry me off or kick while I'm down.

Not that it'll happen, whatever people say about Evington and Highfields, it really ain't that bad. Also, punks respect mass.

-they have also started filming sexual assaults. girls being forced to give head on camera

There was a case of this in local TV last nigth. A group of teenages boys raping (in group) several girls (on differents occasions) and filming it. Some parents have found it and are freaking up because the police would do nothing. All the girl where massively stoned on GHB (or other drugs) when it happen so since they are not protesting on the video, cops dont call it rape. Also, all the girls dont want to pursuit the boys because they fear the reprisal and the name calling at school.

We also see girls and boy being beaten up in school yards at 1 VS 2-4 while being filmed for bragging rigth.

I'm not a "lets all be friend, man is good" kind of biggot/hippy. But I'm really getting shock by this. I'm trully astonished by the lack of courage these kids have for attacking only by outnumbering others, and even more, I can't beleive they use it as a way to pump there own ego.

Seriously, the fact that commiting such a cheap crime is what you need to raise your social status make me fear about the future of our society. Also, the really fact these retard are actually digging there one grave by filming there crime to brag and therefore creating proof, make me say natural selection is a concept from the past that we should bring back.

Just to put my views in perspective, I'm a teenage Londoner, I'm also a member of the alternative set which means I'm forever a target for these kinda kids (dirty grunger is something that's been yelled at me so many times) and rudies/chavs are forever threatinging to beat me up. So I do know what I'm talking about, I'm in classes with the kinda kids who are likely to get involved with this stuff.

I just want to say, I'm disgusted with the hipocrysy and sheer idiocy of all these 'I'd shoot 'em, beat the crap out of them' repsonses. That's horrible, a horrible thug of a kid is still a kid. I don't see why the fact the child you're shooting is a yob means that you shooting that child is OK. I hate all this eye-for-an-eye crap.

And to all the people who keep going on about taking the phone and breaking it bla bla bla. The whole point is they don't give you time to do anythign like taht. And some of you seem to be under the illusion that it's one guy, with a camera, who hits you and then pauses and takes a picture. that's not how it works, they prepare, one hits you, the other films it, then they run like Hell. In a split second it's over. You have no chance of retaliation.

Also, these are quite large groups, possibly armed (Knives, poles, bottles, lightbulbs!) you would not win, and if you did against a few,the rest of the local rudies would find you.

~~V

...And to all the people who keep going on about taking the phone and breaking it bla bla bla. The whole point is they don't give you time to do anythign like taht. And some of you seem to be under the illusion that it's one guy, with a camera, who hits you and then pauses and takes a picture. that's not how it works, they prepare, one hits you, the other films it, then they run like Hell. In a split second it's over. You have no chance of retaliation.

Also, these are quite large groups, possibly armed (Knives, poles, bottles, lightbulbs!) you would not win, and if you did against a few,the rest of the local rudies would find you.

~~Vexactamente.

BTW the key factor is not "having time to strike back"

the key factors are:

1# you are vastly outnumbered (just like the US high schools taxation/bully system)

2# the retaliation factor..."shhh dont tell or your life is going to become hell"(just like the US high schools)

BTW it mitgh be like that in other Countries...but Im more familiar with US schools.

. . . a horrible thug of a kid is still a kid. I don't see why the fact the child you're shooting is a yob means that you shooting that child is OK. I hate all this eye-for-an-eye crap . . .
Well, maybe I could see you're point, but then . . .
. . . these are quite large groups, possibly armed (Knives, poles, bottles, lightbulbs!) you would not win, and if you did against a few,the rest of the local rudies would find you . . .
This invalidates you point. Innocence & childhood aren't intrisnic rights based on age. Special treatment for someone based on their juvenile status no longer applies when someone decides to play the role of the adult.
Either you a rapist, or you aren't mature enough to be responsible for your actions. The moment you are capable of violent theft, murder, rape, massive property damage, you no longer deserve any consideration based on presumed "youth". Now, I'm not saying that just because my 8 year old cousin could physically kill me is an excuse to beat him down. It is at the point when he is 16 and is physically and mentally capable of loading the gun, planning the time, and opening fire on another lliving person that he no longer deserves special treatment.

Innocence & childhood aren't intrisnic rights based on age. Special treatment for someone based on their juvenile status no longer applies when someone decides to play the role of the adult.
Either you a rapist, or you aren't mature enough to be responsible for your actions.
I agree...

Forced to give head? Whatever happened to biting the bastards dick off?

If an individual tries it on me they are asking to be strangled and beaten into a wall. If a group tries. I'll trust my legs to carry me off or kick while I'm down.

Not that it'll happen, whatever people say about Evington and Highfields, it really ain't that bad. Also, punks respect mass.
what do you mean "mass"?

Mass as in 'apparent muscle mass' or simple size. I'm large enough to look down on a lot of them which makes them wary.

Mass as in 'apparent muscle mass' or simple size. I'm large enough to look down on a lot of them which makes them wary.luke...use the force.

no, actually use your signature.

There is some countries where it should never catch up...

like Singapore... or Iran...

basically most countries south of mexico, most countries south of France and of course most of Asia.

I can't see it happening in the U.S. Those brats wouldn't know if the person they were hitting is armed. And here, that would be legitimate self defense. Being attacked by 5 teenagers, and pulling a gun and shooting... self denfense.

Also, these are quite large groups, possibly armed (Knives, poles, bottles, lightbulbs!) you would not win, and if you did against a few,the rest of the local rudies would find you.

~~V

They might think twice if their buddy was shot and ended up in prison for assault.

You know, there are many reasons I've disowned the human race. This? This is the icing on the cake.

I mean, what's next?

... don't answer that...

If someone were to try that to me they had best keep the camera on so they can record me jamming the phone up their ass after I beat the piss out of them. If they run I chase, if there's multiples I cheap shot. Random assaults = good excuse to work out alot of frustration. ;)

I can't see it happening in the U.S. have you ever been to LA? (Im sure there other places too)

Even Mexico. Heck, most places south of Oklahoma for that matter.
It won't catch on here in Texas. It would happen roughly 3 times and then some shithead would start the 4th attack and get beaten to death/shot.

Besides, that's pussy stuff. In the US, we have drive-bys. :rolleyes:

Just to put my views in perspective, I'm a teenage Londoner, I'm also a member of the alternative set which means I'm forever a target for these kinda kids (dirty grunger is something that's been yelled at me so many times) and rudies/chavs are forever threatinging to beat me up. So I do know what I'm talking about, I'm in classes with the kinda kids who are likely to get involved with this stuff.

I just want to say, I'm disgusted with the hipocrysy and sheer idiocy of all these 'I'd shoot 'em, beat the crap out of them' repsonses. That's horrible, a horrible thug of a kid is still a kid. I don't see why the fact the child you're shooting is a yob means that you shooting that child is OK. I hate all this eye-for-an-eye crap.

And to all the people who keep going on about taking the phone and breaking it bla bla bla. The whole point is they don't give you time to do anythign like taht. And some of you seem to be under the illusion that it's one guy, with a camera, who hits you and then pauses and takes a picture. that's not how it works, they prepare, one hits you, the other films it, then they run like Hell. In a split second it's over. You have no chance of retaliation.

Also, these are quite large groups, possibly armed (Knives, poles, bottles, lightbulbs!) you would not win, and if you did against a few,the rest of the local rudies would find you.

~~V
I call BULLshit. If they want to attack like mad animals, they can be treated like mad animals.

What do you do to mad animals? You put them down.