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Favorite Star Wars Movie

Steel Butterfly
24-05-2005, 23:23
What is your favorite Star Wars Movie and why?

For me...this is a hard question. I agree that the second trilogy is better, and yet I must say that my favorite individual movie is Episode III. Nothing in IV-VI can really stand alone. I always had problems with the major parts. One fighter taking out a ship the size of a moon? Why the hell wasn't there armor over that one part? Vader being Luke's father? By the time I saw the movies, this had become such a huge part of society, it wasn't even a plot twist anymore. You just knew it was going to happen. Ewoks killing stormtroopers? Why were the stormtroopers, the same clones as the clone troopers, so horribly weak? These were the Empire's warriors. They had to have won at some point.

Anyhow...on to my pick...

Episode III had the two deepest points of the entire series, which is rather shallow if you think about it. Palpatine's shady rise to power is excellent, and is easily the best character of the first three movies. His deception is excellent. Also, Anakin's fall from grace was amazing, if a little abrupt.

The only thing is...the love scenes were horrible along with the most of the dialogue. I can, and I have, written better dialogue than Mr. Lucas. In addition, the Emperor's face changing thing was stupid, and Vader's cliche "NOOOOOOOO" was laughable.

Regardless, this is my favorite individual movie of the series, even though it may not be even the best movie. It's hard for me to explain, although that's my pick.
The Seperatist states
24-05-2005, 23:34
Episode III, hands down :)

If you ignore the luvyduvy stuff, IT ROCKS!!!

remember...

IT ROCKS!!!
Pencil 17
24-05-2005, 23:38
Empire Strikes Back...

Couldn't be any other way.
Americai
24-05-2005, 23:45
My personal faves.

1. Return of the Jedi
(Luke facing Vader was very moving to me. In fact, Vader redeeming himself was so awesome.)

2. Revenge of the Sith
(Anakin's betrayal was COMPLETELY AWESOME)

3. Empire Strikes Back
(Han and Leia's relationship was cool as was Yoda and other details)

4. A New Hope/Attack of the Clones

5. The Phantom Menace (Minus points for jar jar and Anakin being to young)
Deltaepsilon
24-05-2005, 23:45
Empire Strikes Back...

Couldn't be any other way.
Amen.

Episode 3 was horrible! The dialougue was horrendous, the lightsaber battles sucked, and they didn't even try to make padme's death credible. Plus the special effects, the only things that made episodes 1 and 2 watchable, sucked. They went way too far overboard with the animation, and nothing moved right. Some of the scenery was pretty, but it couldn't make up for the rest of the movie. Hell, the funniest moment of the entire movie was supposed to be serious.
Obi-wan: Anakin is the father, isn't he?
Padme: ...
Obi-wan: I'm so sorry.
Xenophobialand
24-05-2005, 23:53
I'd have to see it more times to really get a feel for it (there were far too many things packed into that movie to really judge on the basis of one viewing), but I don't think the movie was bad at all. Ep. III was just fine in my book.

That being said, the best movie in my view was ESB, hands down. That movie moved the franchise from B-movie turf to serious space opera, made it far deeper and moving. Without ESB, Star Wars would have been nothing more than The Matrix is right now: a revolutionary movie, but one interesting only for the technical merits and gee-whiz factor, not for the actual storytelling.
Steel Butterfly
29-05-2005, 14:14
bumpity
Jeruselem
29-05-2005, 14:18
The Empire Strikes Back, although Return of Jedi comes a close 2nd.
Robot ninja pirates
29-05-2005, 14:20
Amen.

Episode 3 was horrible! The dialougue was horrendous, the lightsaber battles sucked, and they didn't even try to make padme's death credible.
She died of bad movie disease. Common and deadly affliction in the movie universe. ;)

If you watch the movies, you'll find the dialogue has always been terrible. Even in Episode V, where other people wrote lots of it, Lucas insisted on writing parts (and you can tell which parts he wrote, they suck). Trying to find which movie has the best dialogue is like trying to find the best downhill skier in Mexico.

Episode V is still my favorite, and behind that New Hope and Revenge of the Sith I find pretty equal. I think we can all agree on one thing though, Episode 1 just sucks.
Potaria
29-05-2005, 14:21
That being said, the best movie in my view was ESB, hands down. That movie moved the franchise from B-movie turf to serious space opera, made it far deeper and moving. Without ESB, Star Wars would have been nothing more than The Matrix is right now: a revolutionary movie, but one interesting only for the technical merits and gee-whiz factor, not for the actual storytelling.

What is it with you people? Star Wars had a hell of a budget, and it used the most thoroughly-modern technology available at the time. The story was good, too. It was *not* a B-movie.

My favorite, however, is The Empire Strikes Back.
Xi Huan Di
29-05-2005, 14:26
Empire Strikes Back. The invasion of Hoth....
Formal Dances
29-05-2005, 14:33
Episode III though it was sad because of Padme's Death. BTW, she died of a broken heart.

The lightsaber sequences were outstanding as was the space battle above Coruscant :)

Besides that, I"m going to go see it again because it was a terrific movie :)
Greedy Pig
29-05-2005, 14:35
Episode 5 and 6 are the best for me. Though I voted for 6.

1 is the worst. Jar Jar Binks is a lame excuse just to make the show more kiddy to entertain watchers of all ages.
Occhia
29-05-2005, 14:44
Has to be Empire Strikes Back. I mean, compare Han and Leia's love story (My hands are dirty... my hands are dirty too) with Anakin and Padme's (essentially, You are beautiful... I love you), for one. Seriously, such a great film.

By the way, I don't count Attack of the Clones as a Star Wars film. I don't even count it as a film; more of a How To Ruin My Life.
Sarts
29-05-2005, 14:45
Episode 3 is the best, despite the lovy dovy parts it was great, the best bity has to be where anakin and obi wan are fighting at the end on mustafar, on that platform car across the lava, that was extreme, and then at the end where anakin is sliced by a golf swing that was class. but just too easy like :( :sniper: .

But at the end it was a bit like a checklist though, but it still wa da bets film ive eva seen
Lokiaa
29-05-2005, 14:45
Return of the Jedi


Worst? Episode I....jeez, did that movie suck. Jar Jar Binks was the most annoying character in all of Star Wars.


I don't get Episode III. Coming out of the movie theater, I just didn't feel "Star Wars"...I felt more like I had just seen Titantic with light-sabers...
Catronia Marks
29-05-2005, 14:52
Before 1 2 and 3, Episode V far more powerful than it is now, because NOBODY knew that Vader was his father, not even David Prowse(guy in Vader suit) until th film was released. Only 5 people knew, Hammil, Lucas, McCallum, and some other guy. THat scene in bespin was very powerful and moving. It showed Vader's light side in that he did not kill luke the first chance he got.

One thing Lucas got lucky for in 1, 2, and 3 was that in all those movies he could do whatever the hell he wanted with Anakin, he could have cut his legs off in the first movie and there would be no consequence.

Episode 3 was really good except for the parts that sucked.
That would be most of them.
The droid voices... well that horrible example of pure... bad... ness... speaks for itself. General grievous died way too easily, but the part where they brought Qui-Gon back actually proves that Lucas knows what he's doing. If you recall, in EP1, Qui-Gon died, but his body did NOT disappear. It shows that you don't inheritly(scuse the spellin) have abilities but you must learn them... even after death.


Episode V. No doubt about it, was the best.
Lacadaemon
29-05-2005, 15:06
Before 1 2 and 3, Episode V far more powerful than it is now, because NOBODY knew that Vader was his father, not even David Prowse(guy in Vader suit) until th film was released. Only 5 people knew, Hammil, Lucas, McCallum, and some other guy. THat scene in bespin was very powerful and moving. It showed Vader's light side in that he did not kill luke the first chance he got.

One thing Lucas got lucky for in 1, 2, and 3 was that in all those movies he could do whatever the hell he wanted with Anakin, he could have cut his legs off in the first movie and there would be no consequence.

Episode 3 was really good except for the parts that sucked.
That would be most of them.
The droid voices... well that horrible example of pure... bad... ness... speaks for itself. General grievous died way too easily, but the part where they brought Qui-Gon back actually proves that Lucas knows what he's doing. If you recall, in EP1, Qui-Gon died, but his body did NOT disappear. It shows that you don't inheritly(scuse the spellin) have abilities but you must learn them... even after death.


Episode V. No doubt about it, was the best.


Surely James Earl Jones would have known also,
Takuma
29-05-2005, 15:28
Yay, first to choose Star Wars sucks...! ^.^

I really just can't grasp the hype. I mean, they're Ok movies, but not much better than the other crap hollywood et al. keeps pumping out.
Arribastan
29-05-2005, 15:37
I almost cried when I read all of the votes for episode III. Lousy acting, poor drama, and too much attempt at funny stuff.

Episode V is the best. Definitely. Unfortunately, the DVD versions of IV,V,and VI sucked. They replaced the old guy at the end with Hayden Christensen. Blech.
Dobbsworld
29-05-2005, 15:41
Man, I used to looooove Star Wars. I saw the original seven times in the theatre when it first appeared, and at least twice when it returned to theatres the next year. My friends and I spent our weekly allowances on SW bubblegum cards and the cheap action figures, re-enacting scenes from the film after school in the park.

At some point between the first flick and the sequel, though, I guess I just had become ever-so slightly more discerning, jaded, or cynical, because I found myself not quite as enamored of Empire Strikes Back as I had been with the first installment. Little things, like the ludicrously-designed elephantine tanks - the generic dialogue, the cliched familial revelation, and the obvious (well, newly obvious to me at that time) pandering to as wide a demographic as possible, left me less than enthused, though the technical merits of ESB were still enough of a hook to keep my interest relatively high.

By the time Return of the Jedi appeared in theatres, some six years had elapsed since the days of the original film. I found it to be anticlimactic, a somehow unfitting end to what had been such a powerful and influential series of films. The cloyingly-cute Ewoks, the not-credible high-speed pursuit through the woods, the Death Star redux, the still-not credible walking tanks, etc, not to mention the increasingly jarringly-badly written dialogue, sketchy script and the by-now tiresome familial plot-twists. I saw it through just the one time in the theatre, though I did inevitably see it again on video at friend's places (I have never owned any SW films on any video format).

So Lucas eventually picks over his films and throws a lot of CG into the mix. I saw the Star Wars redux in the theatre - it wasn't an improvement, I thought. Everything looked phony. I didn't bother going to see the reduxes of the other two films. I did re-watch the first installment on one of them brand-new DVDs though - the old movie, unretouched. Now that I preferred, warts and all, 'cause it somehow it didn't seem as...plastic as the redux I'd just seen.

A few years after that, Episode One. Feh.

And after that, Episode Two. I am impressed with Ewan MacGregor's extended impression of Alec Guinness. Story takes backseat to CG prowess, a Lucas trademark.
- On a friend's advice, later rented it on DVD and simply skipped past agonizingly slow, plodding and lifeless 'romance' scenes. That made it somewhat slightly less awful, overall.

Finally, Episode Three. Revenge of the Sith. End of the line, supposedly - but personally I don't believe it. Here's the story that should have been told in episodes one or two, and again, it seems somehow anticlimactic. We all know how the story ends in advance this time, there's no sense of mystery or intrigue anymore. This is just Lucas filling in all the last little fiddly bits before he bellies off to semi-retirement. I guess I'm just too far past caring about Star Wars to be too jazzed up about any of it anymore.

I do sincerely hope that Lucas and Fox resist the temptation to make a third trilogy.
Dobbsworld
29-05-2005, 15:42
They replaced the old guy at the end with Hayden Christensen. Blech.

They did? I didn't see it, but that's just the sort of thing that bugs the crap out of me.
Arribastan
29-05-2005, 15:45
They did? I didn't see it, but that's just the sort of thing that bugs the crap out of me.
Yeah. When Obi-Wan, Yoda, and Anakin show up after they're all dead.
Megas
29-05-2005, 15:57
Dude, this survey isn't quite complete without adding the Clone Wars cartoons. I mean, some people didn't like them, but they are part of the main storyline. Without seeing them you really have no clue who the hell Greivous is, or what he is rather.

Anyway, out of the movies, I gotta pick episode 6. The acting was great. The storyline was great. The action was great. It was just great.

And whoever the loser on the first page was that said the episode 3 lightsaber battles sucked, how can you say that? Those battles were the most intense and action-packed in the whole series!
Dobbsworld
29-05-2005, 16:05
[QUOTE=Megas] Without seeing them you really have no clue who the hell Greivous is, or what he is rather.

[QUOTE]

What he is looked to me like a cardboard cut-out villain. You say he's from a cartoon? That explains a lot.

So, fill me in: who or what is Greivous?
Steel Butterfly
29-05-2005, 16:12
Dude, this survey isn't quite complete without adding the Clone Wars cartoons. I mean, some people didn't like them, but they are part of the main storyline. Without seeing them you really have no clue who the hell Greivous is, or what he is rather.

And whoever the loser on the first page was that said the episode 3 lightsaber battles sucked, how can you say that? Those battles were the most intense and action-packed in the whole series!

I saw a Clone Wars cartoon marathon...decided to catch up on my SW before Episode III...and cried through the whole thing. It's bad...

Anyhow...the lightsaber battles were and still are the best part of SW. If this person claims Episode III's sucked...which episode had the better ones?
Steel Butterfly
29-05-2005, 16:15
So, fill me in: who or what is Greivous?

He's kinda a precurser to the tech that makes up Vader. He's mostly droid...but has some life-like components. (A heart...eyes...that's about it...lol) Cool so far.

Where it gets ridiculous though is that Count Dooku somehow taught him how to use not one, but four lightsabers. Greivous hunted down some jedi and took their sabers, and now uses them all at the same time. While this looks cool...that's about it. The character is shallow.
Boonytopia
29-05-2005, 23:06
A New Hope: I love the attack on the Death Star scenes.

The light sabre battle between Luke & Darth Vader in The Empire Strikes Back is a great scene too.