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Why should God bless America?

DHomme
24-05-2005, 20:07
Seriously, I'm always hearing American nationalists screaming "God Bless America" at the end of their speeches. Why? Why the fuck should he? America has it pretty fucking sweet at the minute, why should you be favoured over every single other country in the world. Why doesn't God bless Uzbekistan, China or Ethiopia. What is the America's right-wing obsession about being the new "holy nation"- are they really that arrogant?
Sdaeriji
24-05-2005, 20:09
Why should God save the Queen?
DHomme
24-05-2005, 20:10
Why should God save the Queen?
Fuck the queen. She's a wrinkly old prune
Whispering Legs
24-05-2005, 20:11
Seriously, I'm always hearing American nationalists screaming "God Bless America" at the end of their speeches. Why? Why the fuck should he? America has it pretty fucking sweet at the minute, why should you be favoured over every single other country in the world. Why doesn't God bless Uzbekistan, China or Ethiopia. What is the America's right-wing obsession about being the new "holy nation"- are they really that arrogant?

I guess you don't read much. Consider the national anthems of various nations - I don't see the French or Germans running back right now to make their national anthems inoffensive to other countries - or converting them to pacifistic politically correct elevator music.

You'll notice that the song God Bless America does not contain the words blood, or victory, or "over all", and is not a militaristic song. It doesn't even say, "God Bless America and To Hell With Other Countries".

It's a simple song with some pride in it.

And as an American and a Christian, I don't know where you get this "holy nation" idea from. It's just not that way over here.
Carnivorous Lickers
24-05-2005, 20:12
Seriously, I'm always hearing American nationalists screaming "God Bless America" at the end of their speeches. Why? Why the fuck should he? America has it pretty fucking sweet at the minute, why should you be favoured over every single other country in the world. Why doesn't God bless Uzbekistan, China or Ethiopia. What is the America's right-wing obsession about being the new "holy nation"- are they really that arrogant?


"God Bless America" isnt exactly new.

Calm down-isnt there enough prozac in your drinking water to take that edge off?
CthulhuFhtagn
24-05-2005, 20:12
God should bless America because he needs to bless the communion wafers.
Liskeinland
24-05-2005, 20:12
God used to bless Ireland until the bloody English (I'm sort of both) came along.
Bunnyducks
24-05-2005, 20:14
If he/she really is omnipotent, surely she/he can bless America, China, Ethiopia and Uzbekistan simultaneously.

What I have heard of him/her though, is that she/he is so jealous, you have to ask her/him to bless you... so maybe that's why they invoke her/his blessing. We shall see...not.
Janistania
24-05-2005, 20:14
'Cause fuck 'em! That's why.
Carnivorous Lickers
24-05-2005, 20:14
Seriously, I'm always hearing American nationalists screaming "God Bless America" at the end of their speeches. Why? Why the fuck should he? America has it pretty fucking sweet at the minute, why should you be favoured over every single other country in the world. Why doesn't God bless Uzbekistan, China or Ethiopia. What is the America's right-wing obsession about being the new "holy nation"- are they really that arrogant?

I couldnt help it-I just ran out the front door and screamed "God Bless America" into the street. Oddly enough,my neighbor was doing it at the same time.
Drunk commies reborn
24-05-2005, 20:15
God blessed America because were a Christian country and were fighting to help people around the world learn the good news that Jesus died for their sins and if they dont accept him as their savior theyl bern in hell. Only America is standing up to the mohomedans and their pedophile prophet and theri moon god. Only America is stoping Africans from aborting their babies and spreading gay aids by promoting abstinence. God blessed America because we do Gods work. We are Gods country and Gods chosen people (other than Israel)

I think that says it all
Ianarabia
24-05-2005, 20:15
I don't see the French or Germans running back right now to make their national anthems inoffensive to other countries - or converting them to pacifistic politically correct elevator music.


I guess you don't read too much either because then yopu would know that 2 verses from the German Anthem are missing because they were seen as too imperal. :p
Whispering Legs
24-05-2005, 20:16
I guess you don't read too much either because then yopu would know that 2 verses from the German Anthem are missing because they were seen as too imperal. :p

I know about the removed verses. But we made them remove them. It wasn't voluntary.

Additionally, I find the rest of the song rather imperialistic - and the whole chorus is bombastic to say the least.
Super-power
24-05-2005, 20:17
I think that says it all
Jesus saves, but the rest take full damage!
Swimmingpool
24-05-2005, 20:17
Some American Christians think of themselves as a modern day chosen people, but most who say "God bless America" probably don't mean "God bless America exclusively".
ChuChullainn
24-05-2005, 20:18
What about the british anthem insulting the scots?
Czardas
24-05-2005, 20:19
Seriously, I'm always hearing American nationalists screaming "God Bless America" at the end of their speeches. Why? Why the fuck should he? America has it pretty fucking sweet at the minute, why should you be favoured over every single other country in the world. Why doesn't God bless Uzbekistan, China or Ethiopia. What is the America's right-wing obsession about being the new "holy nation"- are they really that arrogant?Why does God bless America? Because everyone else is cursing them. They need someone to stand up for them! Seriously!

~Czardas, Supreme Ruler of the Universe
Steel Butterfly
24-05-2005, 20:19
Dhomme, you're a troll. Grow up.

The rest of you: don't feed the troll.
Greedy Pig
24-05-2005, 20:19
If he/she really is omnipotent, surely she/he can bless America, China, Ethiopia and Uzbekistan simultaneously.

What I have heard of him/her though, is that she/he is so jealous, you have to ask her/him to bless you... so maybe that's why they invoke her/his blessing. We shall see...not.

He doesn't because their worshipping the wrong god :p
Whispering Legs
24-05-2005, 20:20
What about the british anthem insulting the scots?
Is there an obscure verse I haven't read that refers to "driving the mangy scots git off the land"?
Werteswandel
24-05-2005, 20:23
Is there an obscure verse I haven't read that refers to "driving the mangy scots git off the land"?
To be honest, most Brits have no idea beyond the first verse (I don't even know that), so any knowledge you can gain on this is likely to be sourced from Google.
Czardas
24-05-2005, 20:23
If he/she really is omnipotent, surely she/he can bless America, China, Ethiopia and Uzbekistan simultaneously.

What I have heard of him/her though, is that she/he is so jealous, you have to ask her/him to bless you... so maybe that's why they invoke her/his blessing. We shall see...not.*hurt* What do you mean? No-one's ever invoked my blessing!

~Czardas, Supreme Ruler of the Universe
Bunnyducks
24-05-2005, 20:23
He doesn't because their worshipping the wrong god :p
I thought that was included in my post (the jealousness part). But whatever. :D
I'm an agnostic, and I still use "god's speed"... well the finnish version of it. Deep-rooted cultural thingy, is the scientific answer :)
Cabra West
24-05-2005, 20:23
I know about the removed verses. But we made them remove them. It wasn't voluntary.

Additionally, I find the rest of the song rather imperialistic - and the whole chorus is bombastic to say the least.


"Unity and justice and freedom"? How's that imperialistic?
ChuChullainn
24-05-2005, 20:24
Is there an obscure verse I haven't read that refers to "driving the mangy scots git off the land"?

Verse 6 contains the line "rebellious scots to crush"

Its funny to see english people on here complaining about america and its seemingly lack of regard for other countries when they are the exact same in their attitude to wales, scotland and northern ireland
Cogitation
24-05-2005, 20:24
Fuck the queen. She's a wrinkly old pruneSorry, but no. Having sex with wrinkly old prunes does not appeal to me.

--The Jovial States of Cogitation

...

Okay, seriously, this is a matter of interpretation. I, for one, don't consider "God Bless America" to mean "God Bless Only America". Could it be more inclusive? Sure, we could say "God Bless the World" or "God Bless Us All". But that doesn't mean that "God Bless America" is necessarily a petition to the Lord for His exclusive favor.

--The Democratic States of Cogitation
Iztatepopotla
24-05-2005, 20:25
God blesses America because He will be nuke if He doesn't comply.
The Warmaster
24-05-2005, 20:26
Come on! It doesn't actually mean anything. God Bless America is not really a request for God's blessings, its a piece of political showery. I assume God blesses everyone anyway, according to all monotheistic doctrines I know.
Cogitation
24-05-2005, 20:27
Dhomme, you're a troll. Grow up.

The rest of you: don't feed the troll.Is he a troll? I hadn't noticed.

If he has a habit of trolling, then please post in "Moderation" links to his various topics so that we can look them over.

--The Modified Democratic States of Cogitation
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Czardas
24-05-2005, 20:29
Sorry, but no. Having sex with wrinkly old prunes does not appeal to me.

--The Jovial States of Cogitation

...

Okay, seriously, this is a matter of interpretation. I, for one, don't consider "God Bless America" to mean "God Bless Only America". Could it be more inclusive? Sure, we could say "God Bless the World" or "God Bless Us All". But that doesn't mean that "God Bless America" is necessarily a petition to the Lord for His exclusive favor.

--The Democratic States of CogitationI never considered that.

But I still like my idea better... :D

~Czardas, Supreme Ruler of the Universe
Iztatepopotla
24-05-2005, 20:29
Come on! It doesn't actually mean anything. God Bless America is not really a request for God's blessings, its a piece of political showery. I assume God blesses everyone anyway, according to all monotheistic doctrines I know.
I agree. Actually, I was just thinking (haven't done it in months) and I believe that what presidents usually say is "May God bless America." Perhaps he's thinking "Because if He doesn't we are all screwed."
Whispering Legs
24-05-2005, 20:30
Verse 6 contains the line "rebellious scots to crush"

Its funny to see english people on here complaining about america and its seemingly lack of regard for other countries when they are the exact same in their attitude to wales, scotland and northern ireland

As an American I am not surprised.
Czardas
24-05-2005, 20:31
If he has a habit of trolling, then please post in "Moderation" links to his various topics so that we can look them over.

--The Modified Democratic States of Cogitation
NationStates Game ModeratorI don't think it's a habit with him. ...Yet.

~Czardas, Supreme Ruler of the Universe
Werteswandel
24-05-2005, 20:31
Verse 6 contains the line "rebellious scots to crush"

Its funny to see english people on here complaining about america and its seemingly lack of regard for other countries when they are the exact same in their attitude to wales, scotland and northern ireland
There are SIX verses? Bloody hell. That's a lot of patriotic blithering.

More seriously, I'm English. Thanks for the generalisation, sweetcheeks.
Bunnyducks
24-05-2005, 20:32
*hurt* What do you mean? No-one's ever invoked my blessing!

~Czardas, Supreme Ruler of the Universe
Sowwy. You being the supreme ruler and all... Bless us, please, if it fits your schedule.
(just to be on the safe side)
Ianarabia
24-05-2005, 20:34
I know about the removed verses. But we made them remove them. It wasn't voluntary.

Additionally, I find the rest of the song rather imperialistic - and the whole chorus is bombastic to say the least.

The majority of old countries anthems are...the USA for example is about a battle...the British is very imperialistic...big deal, perhaps that's why so few people in Britain really don't take too much pride is singing it.
Czardas
24-05-2005, 20:35
More seriously, I'm English. Thanks for the generalisation, sweetcheeks.I haven't seen that many Brits complaining about America. Unless all of those people complaining about America were Brits.

And remember, all generalizations are bad.

~Czardas, Supreme Ruler of the Universe
[NS]Ein Deutscher
24-05-2005, 20:36
I guess you don't read much. Consider the national anthems of various nations - I don't see the French or Germans running back right now to make their national anthems inoffensive to other countries - or converting them to pacifistic politically correct elevator music.

You'll notice that the song God Bless America does not contain the words blood, or victory, or "over all", and is not a militaristic song. It doesn't even say, "God Bless America and To Hell With Other Countries".

It's a simple song with some pride in it.

And as an American and a Christian, I don't know where you get this "holy nation" idea from. It's just not that way over here.
Once again oh ignorant one, you are so wrong and talking out of your ass. Germany has after WW2 made it's national anthem into a pussy version with nothing "offensive" in it. :mad:
Frangland
24-05-2005, 20:36
I couldnt help it-I just ran out the front door and screamed "God Bless America" into the street. Oddly enough,my neighbor was doing it at the same time.

lol

that's nothing, carnivorous lickers... at my office we all gathered 'round, sat indian-style, and sang "God Bless America" over candle-light (yes, we cut the regular lights).

Then we all gave thanks through prayer.

then we thought of cool strategies for oppressing the rest of the world with the help of God.

then we thought of all the countries with oil and how neat it would be to govern them, only after blasting all their people with nukes.

God Bless America!
Czardas
24-05-2005, 20:36
Sowwy. You being the supreme ruler and all... Bless us, please, if it fits your schedule.
(just to be on the safe side)I don't have a schedule, so here goes:

I hereby bless every living creature in this universe, and every nation, with the exception of America. :D :D

~Czardas, Supreme Ruler of the Universe
Artanias
24-05-2005, 20:36
Like many others said before, "God bless America" in no way means only America. I also find it funny when British people call Americans Imperialistic. The average American is as responsible for whatever percieved crimes are taking place against America's enemies as the Average Brit is responsible for England's percieved crimes against India and China (Opium Wars: good call england).

But, if you really insist that God can only bless America, then pray that Bush gets the sudden Idea to take over all the world. Then when every piece of land belongs to America, and God blesses America, God will be blessing everyone. Problem solved
Whispering Legs
24-05-2005, 20:36
The majority of old countries anthems are...the USA for example is about a battle...the British is very imperialistic...big deal, perhaps that's why so few people in Britain really don't take too much pride is singing it.

Which is why I wonder why the original poster is all wrapped up about an American catch-phrase.
Cogitation
24-05-2005, 20:37
On second thought, iLock pending Moderator review.

--The Modified Democratic States of Cogitation