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BBC: China's dangerous sexual ignorance

Mistme
24-05-2005, 07:06
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4572859.stm


China's dangerous sexual ignorance
By Louisa Lim
BBC News, China


In one cafe in southern China, pictures of naked women hang on the walls - a rare sight in this country.

But that is what this cafe is all about. It was set up by the City Government Reproductive Health Centre, and is an attempt to bring sex education into the open.

The centre's director, Tao Lin, showed me the services on offer - free condoms, and books and information about sex.

This drop-in sex education cafe is a pioneering concept, the first of its kind in China. Yet, it is almost completely empty.

Tao Lin admitted the hardest thing was breaking the taboo surrounding sex.

"Our challenge is that people are still too shy to talk about sex. It is difficult to know the right approach. People use tabloids or websites to find out information about sex, but it is often incorrect or unreliable," he said.

Out of sight

One survey has suggested that 75% of young Chinese learn about sex through pornography or porn websites, and computers certainly offer young people the chance to find out about sex in private.

In the back of the cafe, three young women are tapping away at keyboards.

"I want to find out about contraception, what choice there is, and how to use it," said 22-year-old pharmacology student Wu Dinliang, blushing.

She said she had never been taught about contraception.

Counsellor Tang Weiyao confirmed that even the most highly educated Chinese could be ignorant about sex.

"I had two university students who had been married for two years and hadn't managed to have children. They went to the hospital for a check-up and it emerged that they didn't even know the first thing about sex. They thought simply sleeping in the same bed would get her pregnant," she said.

For many other young people it is the opposite problem. They are exploring their sexuality without knowing how to protect themselves.

Chinese women walk next to a poster promoting condom use at a sex education exhibit in Beijing on Tuesday July 11, 2000.
Many are embarrassed to visit sex education centres
Lily Liu, from the British organisation, Marie Stopes, which has set up reproductive health centres in China, said one girl who came to one of the centres "was only about 19, and she had already had five abortions".

But Ms Liu added: "Attitudes are becoming more open, and they are also having consensual behaviour [sic]. In fact, their knowledge is far behind what they should know.

"I think one of the reasons is that we don't have very good sexual education in schools. It is still very much centred around physiological development."

The organisation has developed radio shows to fill in the knowledge gaps. In one skit, two happy sperm race towards an egg. But the ad has a serious point, warning that having many sexual partners and not using condoms is unsafe sexual behaviour.

Disease spread

High levels of unprotected sex among young people are ringing alarm bells. Figures over the last few years show sky-rocketing rates of sexual transmitted infection [STI], according to Zhao Pengfei from the World Health Organization.

"We see, every year, 30 to 40% increases in the reported STI cases. Once HIV-Aids is introduced into that group it can be dangerous for the young generation," he said.

A recent survey has suggested that one fifth of people in China have never heard of Aids.

A question put to one radio agony uncle - "If I'm having lunch with an Aids carrier and I bite my tongue, can I catch Aids?" - is yet another warning sign that China's sex education system needs a revolution to keep pace with changes in sexual behaviour.

Otherwise, China will pay a high price for the ignorance of its youth.


:confused:
I know the topic is quite taboo in most Asian countries, but the first bolded paragraph is...extreme, isn't i?
Bitchkitten
24-05-2005, 07:09
And abstinence only sex ed will help the US. *sarcasm*
NERVUN
24-05-2005, 07:13
I'd laugh, but I once dated a Chinese woman who got into a panic that she was pregnant because she hugged me too hard... when we were both fully clothed.

And she also insisted on having seperate toilet paper just in case she might get pregnant.

No, I'm not making this up.

It's scarry when a guy knows more about a woman's reproductive system than she does.
Cathenia
24-05-2005, 07:19
This girl I knew kinda freaked when we kissed the first time - yeah it was French kissing but - and even just touchy feely was worrisome for her.

Cathenia
Kellarly
24-05-2005, 07:20
:confused:
I know the topic is quite taboo in most Asian countries, but the first bolded paragraph is...extreme, isn't i?

There was actually a story about the same thing happening in Germany...i'll try and find it but it was in a UK newspaper and on a few websites a few months back. I heard it on the radio myself.
Santa Barbara
24-05-2005, 07:47
THere are stupid people who get married in every country in the world.

In fact, one might even say it's a requirement, if one doesn't mind inviting the flames of all the married people.
Vasdanya
24-05-2005, 07:51
Good Lord! How can there possibly be three BILLION of them?
Beth Gellert
24-05-2005, 07:51
That's not so alien. In Britain today there are many old people who never had sex, despite being together for half a century. They actually thought it was wicked to touch one another, and only now -with one partner dead- do many realise how incredibly stupid that was.

The simple solution is to cease respecting any goverment anywhere and to behave like human beings.

(And, for once, I won't entirely disagree with SB. Marriage? What? Why?)
Beth Gellert
24-05-2005, 07:52
Good Lord! How can there possibly be three BILLION of them?

Well, if you multiply their present population by two-and-a-bit...
Sweetfloss
24-05-2005, 07:56
I'd laugh, but I once dated a Chinese woman who got into a panic that she was pregnant because she hugged me too hard... when we were both fully clothed.

And she also insisted on having seperate toilet paper just in case she might get pregnant.

No, I'm not making this up.

It's scarry when a guy knows more about a woman's reproductive system than she does.

There was an American couple a few months ago who didn't even know what sex was, and were really worried becuase they weren't having children even though they kept asking God for one. They'd both been brought up in strictly Protestant households, and they had no idea how to get children... they thought a child was given from God if you asked :rolleyes: It's kind of shocking how misinformed some people are...
Iopping
24-05-2005, 07:56
here there are so many magazines that promote safe sex and teach young girls especially about contraception and stuff.

Even I know what you have to do to get pregnant, unlike the person who has been married for 2 years.

man, I couldn't imagine not having sex just after I get married. Weird really.

I do agree they need education on it. . .
Vasdanya
24-05-2005, 07:57
Well people are stupid, and I might have inadvertantly demonstrated that....
Maharlikana
24-05-2005, 08:01
There was an American couple a few months ago who didn't even know what sex was, and were really worried becuase they weren't having children even though they kept asking God for one. They'd both been brought up in strictly Protestant households, and they had no idea how to get children... they thought a child was given from God if you asked :rolleyes: It's kind of shocking how misinformed some people are...

Maybe they come from the stork like in Disney and Looney Toons cartoons!

Cathenia
Gemon
24-05-2005, 08:07
China, USA, Britain, Germany and other nations that have one teen couple who don't know what sex is must be screwed!

Sarcasm, for the slow ones. :P
Iztatepopotla
24-05-2005, 16:23
There was an American couple a few months ago who didn't even know what sex was, and were really worried becuase they weren't having children even though they kept asking God for one. They'd both been brought up in strictly Protestant households, and they had no idea how to get children... they thought a child was given from God if you asked :rolleyes: It's kind of shocking how misinformed some people are...
Was that in the US? I think they were German or Swiss or something like that.
A good documentary should set them straight. Like "Super Gang Bangers IV".
Drunk commies reborn
24-05-2005, 16:27
There was an American couple a few months ago who didn't even know what sex was, and were really worried becuase they weren't having children even though they kept asking God for one. They'd both been brought up in strictly Protestant households, and they had no idea how to get children... they thought a child was given from God if you asked :rolleyes: It's kind of shocking how misinformed some people are...
That's an old urban legend. The same story has been told substituting a German couple too. I suspect the Chinese story is just another incarnation of that old apocryphal anecdote.
Whispering Legs
24-05-2005, 16:29
That's an old urban legend. The same story has been told substituting a German couple too. I suspect the Chinese story is just another incarnation of that old apocryphal anecdote.

So many people want to believe that they live in the only enlightened place in the world, and that other nations are abysmally ignorant.

I remember when I was growing up, my father used to say, "eat your vegetables, because there are starving kids in China"

I've met people from China whose mothers used to say, "eat your vegetables, because there are starving kids in the US"

I especially like it when Europeans accuse Americans of being ignorant, and then turn around and believe stories like this.
Potaria
24-05-2005, 16:31
Was that in the US? I think they were German or Swiss or something like that.
A good documentary should set them straight. Like "Super Gang Bangers IV".

What about "Backdoor Sluts 9"?
Drunk commies reborn
24-05-2005, 16:34
What about "Backdoor Sluts 9"?
No, we should show them the "18 and confused" series. China will be swamped with girls in Catholic schoolgirl outfits doing lesbian stuff to each other.
Iztatepopotla
24-05-2005, 16:42
No, we should show them the "18 and confused" series. China will be swamped with girls in Catholic schoolgirl outfits doing lesbian stuff to each other.
And that would also work as birth control! Win-win situation!
Swimmingpool
24-05-2005, 16:43
I know the topic is quite taboo in most Asian countries, but the first bolded paragraph is...extreme, isn't i?
Westerners were just like that a century ago. It is worrying I agree when you consider China's AIDS epidemic.

And abstinence only sex ed will help the US. *sarcasm*
Off topic.
Whispering Legs
24-05-2005, 16:43
"Catholic High School Girls In Trouble"
Cogitation
24-05-2005, 17:04
Okay, enough with the porn titles. We're starting to drift towards violations of the "obscene" clause.

Let's get back to serious discussion, here.

--The Modified Democratic States of Cogitation