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Americans honour fallen Canadian soldiers. (http://sympaticomsn.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/1116850195830_67?hub=topstories)

Its been a few years now since the dreadful tragedy where 2 American Air Force piots mistakenly fired upon Canadian troops practicing night time manouvers in Afghanistan. Through it all, the rank and file of the American Military has expressed genuine horror over what happened. Now the the trials of the pilots involved are over, they're free to give a lasting tribute to the Canadians that were killed and injured. I suspect this was the plan all along.

A lot of Candaians, myself included, are very touched by the ceremony that took place on Monday. I'm bothered by the amount of blather amongst the media north and even south of the border about the decaying state of Canadian-American relations. This kind of thing shows the mutual respect and goodwill our nations still have, so I thought I'd share it.

Think nothing of it, we Americans always do it up big for those freinds we carelessly kill.

Shoot, we even gave Pat Tillman a Silver Star.......

Us Americans? Class? Ha, nah. We're all a bunch of rude, fat, beer guzzling warmongers.[/sarcasm + middle finger to topic creator}

Americans honour fallen Canadian soldiers. (http://sympaticomsn.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/1116850195830_67?hub=topstories)

Its been a few years now since the dreadful tragedy where 2 American Air Force piots mistakenly fired upon Canadian troops practicing night time manouvers in Afghanistan. Through it all, the rank and file of the American Military has expressed genuine horror over what happened. Now the the trials of the pilots involved are over, they're free to give a lasting tribute to the Canadians that were killed and injured. I suspect this was the plan all along.

A lot of Candaians, myself included, are very touched by the ceremony that took place on Monday. I'm bothered by the amount of blather amongst the media north and even south of the border about the decaying state of Canadian-American relations. This kind of thing shows the mutual respect and goodwill our nations still have, so I thought I'd share it.

I was rather pissed when I heard about that friendly fire mishap, and how it shouldn't have happened. However, I'd not heard of this ceremony till you mentioned it, which further bothers me. It may well be my own fault for not watching the TV news (I read the paper or go online), but if that's not the case, then it really irks me it wasn't given more attention. However, I am glad that it was done in the first place. They certainly deserved it.

I'm an American, who happens to love Canada. I've been there twice, my fiance is Canadian, and I plan on immigrating and studying there. Whenever I hear people speaking ill of Canada, I do what I can to educate them, as I've always had pleasant experiences with Canadians.

I'd much rather see better US-Canada relations, it's good for everyone involved.

Us Americans? Class? Ha, nah. We're all a bunch of rude, fat, beer guzzling warmongers.[/sarcasm + middle finger to topic creator}
Hey, I'm talking about my fellow Canadians having tragicly been KILLED. The US Army showed some class about it, maybe you should too.

I live next to the border between B.C. and Washington, and I have noticed a lot of anti-canadian sentiment. What's with that? I've always been friendly to the folks up north...

Americans honour fallen Canadian soldiers. (http://sympaticomsn.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/1116850195830_67?hub=topstories)

Its been a few years now since the dreadful tragedy where 2 American Air Force piots mistakenly fired upon Canadian troops practicing night time manouvers in Afghanistan. Through it all, the rank and file of the American Military has expressed genuine horror over what happened. Now the the trials of the pilots involved are over, they're free to give a lasting tribute to the Canadians that were killed and injured. I suspect this was the plan all along.

A lot of Candaians, myself included, are very touched by the ceremony that took place on Monday. I'm bothered by the amount of blather amongst the media north and even south of the border about the decaying state of Canadian-American relations. This kind of thing shows the mutual respect and goodwill our nations still have, so I thought I'd share it.
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Us Americans? Class? Ha, nah. We're all a bunch of rude, fat, beer guzzling warmongers.[/sarcasm + middle finger to topic creator}

You certainly aren't showing a lot of class here...

Of course we do. Accidents happen in war, and we can't be paralyzed by them, but we must mourn them.

Of course we do. Accidents happen in war, and we can't be paralyzed by them, but we must mourn them.Or hide the facts and make them heros, we do that a lot too. Makes for better headlines.

Of course we do. Accidents happen in war, and we can't be paralyzed by them, but we must mourn them.
3 years AFTER the fact?! :rolleyes: Wow, that's really honouring the memory, ain't it?

I think any ill will between our two countries is of the kind you find between neighbours the world over. Of course we disagree on some things, so what. I think the lobby thats effectively halted re-opening the US border to Canadian beef are bunch of a-holes, and it pisses me off. Doesn't really change my overall attitude towards the PEOPLE of America. One measley war in almost 200 years is incredible by the standards of anywhere else on the face of the planet.

Sometimes the sentiment will swing one way or another because of events, but most of all because of the media. The US was VERY unpopular up here when the friendly fire incident happened. It would have been the same if the situation were reversed. OPur boys died, of course we got right pissed. But its things like this ceremony that show how both countries manage to stay neighbourly and even friendly.

3 years AFTER the fact?! :rolleyes: Wow, that's really honouring the memory, ain't it?

They had to wait for all the trials and legal wrangling to end. I think it would have happened sooner otherwise. Remember, there are exchange programs in existance between our milititaries, so there are more than a few US soldiers who have served alongside Canadians...in the same UNIT, not just the same operation. This wasn't just for show.

(give me a) BUMP

They had to wait for all the trials and legal wrangling to end.why?

I'm an American, and I'm total class. Just ask Kanabia ;).

In general Americans are VERY glad to have Canada as a friend. Sure we joke, but most of the time we can't even tell if a person is Canadian or American in the internet and in other places unless they give the signature ", eh". The strain in the relations are purely political due to the neo-con fascists in the bible belt region. Aside from that the nations are practically dependent on one another.

However, most Americans when hearing the news of the tragiety mostly thought to themselves "oh, hell... that is horrible" and meant it.

Cases of friendly fire happen in war like what happened to Pat Tillman, but the extent of that incident was beyond tragic. It was actually emotionally painful to hear that news. To have a group of soldiers like that decimated by arial fire is nothing to brush off.

Friendly fire happens. It's a reality of war and though I think the trials and tributes given are heartfelt, but the media has made far too much of it. They're sad circumstances, but unavoidable in the situation at hand, and I don't like how it's been obsessed over for the past few years. You'd think the public would know of the risks of war.

but most of the time we can't even tell if a person is Canadian or American in the internet and in other places unless they give the signature ", eh".Actually, I see just as many Americans using "eh" as often as Canadians. Though it's an official dictionary word here, it's a common tonal sound used for filler or denoting a question, etc. that I'm sure just about every culture uses.

why?
When the Courts are invovled, anyhting that could be seen as an opinion or commentary by a powerful or influential authority is discouraged until the matter has been settled. The US Military is mos. def. powerful and influential and an authority.

Friendly fire incidents happen. They should all be met with an honest "Oops, we're really sorry. We'll do what we can to avoid it happening again."

When the Courts are invovled, anyhting that could be seen as an opinion or commentary by a powerful or influential authority is discouraged until the matter has been settled. The US Military is mos. def. powerful and influential and an authority."we will show you how much class we have...only when all the lawsuits are settled"...

thats pathetic.

"we will show you how much class we have...only when all the lawsuits are settled"...

thats pathetic.


I think you're missing the point. The rank and file of the US Military WE NOT ALLOWED to do this until the CRIMINAL CASE was settled. It was not a lawsuit. This ceremony expressed the feelings of the rank and file. The higher officials nowadays are all civvies anyway. I posted this because it reflects the reality a lot better: The average American can and does care about this kind of thing, and they took action to show it. Who cares that it took three years? It was done, and with the utmost respect. Thats what matters. The families of the fallen soldiers and the survivors of the tragedy greatly appreciate this being done, they say so in the article I linked to.

Are you paid to be cranky, or is it that just your sweet and vivacious personality shining through?

I hadn't heard about this either until now. Hmm.

It was so horrible about the friendly-fire accident. I know this memorial isn't much, and it doesn't make everything better, but I hope it represents an official apology for what happened and the friendship our two countries still share.

I joke about Canadians with my Canadian friends, and they do the same with Americans, but it's all in good fun. Hell, I can't even tell the difference between a Canadian and an American. I forget that we're two different countries, lol.

Americans honour fallen Canadian soldiers. (http://sympaticomsn.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/1116850195830_67?hub=topstories)

Its been a few years now since the dreadful tragedy where 2 American Air Force piots mistakenly fired upon Canadian troops practicing night time manouvers in Afghanistan. Through it all, the rank and file of the American Military has expressed genuine horror over what happened. Now the the trials of the pilots involved are over, they're free to give a lasting tribute to the Canadians that were killed and injured. I suspect this was the plan all along.

A lot of Candaians, myself included, are very touched by the ceremony that took place on Monday. I'm bothered by the amount of blather amongst the media north and even south of the border about the decaying state of Canadian-American relations. This kind of thing shows the mutual respect and goodwill our nations still have, so I thought I'd share it.

that's the media for you. They ignore all the good things and focus on what they think will sour relations and get lots of their newspapers and magazines solds and their viewership numbers up.

In general Americans are VERY glad to have Canada as a friend. Sure we joke, but most of the time we can't even tell if a person is Canadian or American in the internet and in other places unless they give the signature ", eh". The strain in the relations are purely political due to the neo-con fascists in the bible belt region. Aside from that the nations are practically dependent on one another.

However, most Americans when hearing the news of the tragiety mostly thought to themselves "oh, hell... that is horrible" and meant it.

Cases of friendly fire happen in war like what happened to Pat Tillman, but the extent of that incident was beyond tragic. It was actually emotionally painful to hear that news. To have a group of soldiers like that decimated by arial fire is nothing to brush off.

Indeed, there was an incident during the first gulf war, where an Apache gunned down a UK mobile unit... The information was actually recorded, when the operations center reported that the unit was a friendly (there was an error because the unit was not where it was supposed to be in the mission reports)... The Apache pilots requested immediate clearance to head back home, and were expressing genuine horror at had what just occured.

Things like this do happen... unfortuneately... And it is genuine horror to us in the battlefield, when we ourselved made errors that led to friendlies being hit by our own...

In the high-tech battlefield, it takes some time to figure out what went wrong... There are so many levels of communications, and I know everyone wants to make sure the blame falls to the right person(s)...

Americans honour fallen Canadian soldiers. (http://sympaticomsn.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/1116850195830_67?hub=topstories)

Its been a few years now since the dreadful tragedy where 2 American Air Force piots mistakenly fired upon Canadian troops practicing night time manouvers in Afghanistan. Through it all, the rank and file of the American Military has expressed genuine horror over what happened. Now the the trials of the pilots involved are over, they're free to give a lasting tribute to the Canadians that were killed and injured. I suspect this was the plan all along.

A lot of Candaians, myself included, are very touched by the ceremony that took place on Monday. I'm bothered by the amount of blather amongst the media north and even south of the border about the decaying state of Canadian-American relations. This kind of thing shows the mutual respect and goodwill our nations still have, so I thought I'd share it.


NO, it just shows how liberal panzies have made america weak. I am sick of the american government, and thanks to a poll I placed on a governmental forum so is the majority of American. The truth is, we no longer give a damn about a free country we just want to be equal and safe, the vast majority of americans would prefer a short termed dictatorship or comunism to the land of the free we are now. And the most disturbing part in this whole damn thing is that you cannadians play lap dogs to the british. And we all know the feeling most british have towards the america's.

So yes those reports are true, america's becoming less of a land of the free and home of the brave, and becoming more a a land of the rich upper class, and the down trodden lower class.

I hadn't heard about this either until now. Hmm.

It was so horrible about the friendly-fire accident. I know this memorial isn't much, and it doesn't make everything better, but I hope it represents an official apology for what happened and the friendship our two countries still share.

I joke about Canadians with my Canadian friends, and they do the same with Americans, but it's all in good fun. Hell, I can't even tell the difference between a Canadian and an American. I forget that we're two different countries, lol.

You can if you listen close, cannadians over pronouniate a lot of there vowels, and if they're from Qubec oh then you can really tell.

I love Canada - uh, except for the French part, of course.

Yep blame everything wrong on the french quarter. Haha

Blame Cannada, blame Cannada, with their little beady eyes and their mouths so big and wide, blame Cannada, blame Cannada.

NO, it just shows how liberal panzies have made america weak. I am sick of the american government, and thanks to a poll I placed on a governmental forum so is the majority of American. The truth is, we no longer give a damn about a free country we just want to be equal and safe, the vast majority of americans would prefer a short termed dictatorship or comunism to the land of the free we are now. And the most disturbing part in this whole damn thing is that you cannadians play lap dogs to the british. And we all know the feeling most british have towards the america's.

So yes those reports are true, america's becoming less of a land of the free and home of the brave, and becoming more a a land of the rich upper class, and the down trodden lower class.

Well done Draconis, you're the first person today to make me laugh out loud. Canadians lapdogs to the British? Americans preferring communism? Where do you get your ideas from?

My fellow down trodden americans. That's who.

Americans have class? Where've they been hiding it then? *looks under the chair, pulls out the bed* Only kidding of course. Americans aren't all bad, by any means. They're just not Canadians, though...

Americans honour fallen Canadian soldiers. (http://sympaticomsn.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/1116850195830_67?hub=topstories).that's the media for you. They ignore all the good things and focus on what they think will sour relations and get lots of their newspapers and magazines solds and their viewership numbers up.I dont trust that "sympatico" newspaper anyways.

I prefer

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/
http://www.thestar.com/
or the Canoe newspapers...

They had to wait for all the trials and legal wrangling to end. I think it would have happened sooner otherwise. Remember, there are exchange programs in existance between our milititaries, so there are more than a few US soldiers who have served alongside Canadians...in the same UNIT, not just the same operation. This wasn't just for show.
They could have still given the memory this honour 3 years ago, even if the trials and legal aspects were still up in the air.

Whether or not they have served side by side is irrelevant. The trial has nothing to do with honouring the memory of the four soldiers. It's the timing that is important, and three years is what I'd expect for an anniversary ceremony, not a first-time memorial.