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British & Irish Lions 25 Argentina 25

How lucky are the Lions, Argentina dominated most of the game especially in the scrum and at the break down plus their kicker despite being unconventional managed to kick all 7 attempts at goal despite some very difficult angles.

1. So how did you rate the Lions performance?

2. Who was the Lion's man of the match?

3. Who was Argentina's man of the match?

4. And finally how do you think the Lion's will get on in New Zealand?

My answers for the above are:

1. Poor but their were some positives. I thought Ollie Smith took his try well and generally looked lively in the back line, Wilkinson had a good running game going but his kicking out of hand was aimless, the line out functioned well with both hookers hitting their men and Cusiter came on and passed brilliantly. The negetives were that the scrum was completely massacured while Argentina dominated the break downs, the back play was a bit rusty but that should get better with time and finally i felt D'Arcy gave away a few too many penalties and that Gareth Cooper wasn't that sharp with his passing and judgement.

2. A hard one but I go for Ollie Smith as he showed us with his try what the England team missed in the 6 Nations and seemed to link well especially with Wilkinson.

3. M Ledesma Argentinas hooker, he with both his props destroyed the Lions scrum and guarded the breakdown's well. His performance provided the platform for Argentins kicker to score the points.

4. After this performance 2-1 to New Zealand would be a bit optamistic, though this was only the Lions second team and there is alot more time for iron out the problems before the First Test, so i'm going for 2-1 to the Lions :) !

I guess no one is in to rugby then!

The Lions will win 3 games on Tour none are Tests!

Congratulations you just played Argentina 3rd XV and Drew for shame for shame indeed!

Hey, my BEST claim to fame...

When I was at primary school I was in the class of a guy whose dad used to PLAY for the Lions, and then he became physio for them.

Ah, damn primary school was COOL.

Hey, my BEST claim to fame...

When I was at primary school I was in the class of a guy whose dad used to PLAY for the Lions, and then he became physio for them.

Ah, damn primary school was COOL.

Cool, do you know his name?

The Lions will win 3 games on Tour none are Tests!

Congratulations you just played Argentina 3rd XV and Drew for shame for shame indeed!

It's not as if it was our first team either plus we are still geling and there is alot of game time between now and the first test so New Zealand better watch it before you start to think it'll be a 3-0 walk over!

no O'Driscoll playing?

Damn, I knew there was something I was meant to watch instead of revising! That's what all this exam stress does to me, you know, makes me forget things. Which is kind of ironic, in its own little way :rolleyes:

I'm more of a league man myself, though *waits for the inevitable league-bashing*

no O'Driscoll playing?

No he was rested. Though Ollie Smith deputised well in his position.

No he was rested. Though Ollie Smith deputised well in his position.
well there you go, once they get BOD back theyll be grand :D :p

Damn, I knew there was something I was meant to watch instead of revising! That's what all this exam stress does to me, you know, makes me forget things. Which is kind of ironic, in its own little way :rolleyes:

I'm more of a league man myself, though *waits for the inevitable league-bashing*

Lol, I would bash league but its not that bad.

well there you go, once they get BOD back theyll be grand :D :p

I agree O'Driscoll is a world class player but not even he could have saved the Lions blushes last night.

Lol, I would bash league but its not that bad.

*blinks* Wow. I think that's the first time i've seen a union fan pass up the opportunity to bash league lol. Unless you're not a union fan either :rolleyes:

*blinks* Wow. I think that's the first time i've seen a union fan pass up the opportunity to bash league lol. Unless you're not a union fan either :rolleyes:

I am a very big one but i still think league is good as league has breathed abit of life into Union recently.

I agree O'Driscoll is a world class player but not even he could have saved the Lions blushes last night.
well, he pretty much single handedly saved Ireland against Italy in the 6 Nations, and in another match too (but i forget which), so never underestimate the impact he can have - hes pure genius at creating scores out of nothing


edit: and they should have picked Humphreys over O'Gara

The only thing to come out of that match was that Wilkonsins kicking was accurate. They're going to have trouble in the tour games if they can only muster a draw against argentina.

I'm now wondering who the back 3 for the All Blacks is going to be. After last season, it seamed the combo of howlett, mils and rocokoco would be assured but they've all had absolutely shit super 12s, and now Joe's off with the 7s team and Mils is playing centre in the trial.

well, he pretty much single handedly saved Ireland against Italy in the 6 Nations, and in another match too (but i forget which), so never underestimate the impact he can have - hes pure genius at creating scores out of nothing

Tana Umaga is a whooooole other defensive prospect for him to try and run passed though.

well, he pretty much single handedly saved Ireland against Italy in the 6 Nations, and in another match too (but i forget which), so never underestimate the impact he can have - hes pure genius at creating scores out of nothing

Yea he would have needed literally to make things out of nothing as the Lions hardly ever had the ball! As Argentina dominated the scrums, the rucks and the restarts it's lucky that we even saw the ball never mind created anything.

Tana Umaga is a whooooole other defensive prospect for him to try and run passed though.
ach we'll just have to wait and see how it works out. whens the first game against NZ?

Tana Umaga is a whooooole other defensive prospect for him to try and run passed though.

Still O'Driscoll can get through even the toughest of defences especially with the distribution of Peel, Wilkinson (Or Jones) and Henson.

ach we'll just have to wait and see how it works out. whens the first game against NZ?

Lions Tour:

4 Jun v Bay of Plenty

8 Jun v Taranaki

11 Jun v NZ Maori

15 Jun v Wellington (I have my ticket)

18 Jun v Otago

21 Jun v Southland

25 Jun v ALL BLACKS

28 Jun v Manawatu

2 Jul v ALL BLACKS

5 Jul v Auckland,

9 Jul v ALL BLACKS

Lions Tour:

4 Jun v Bay of Plenty

8 Jun v Taranaki

11 Jun v NZ Maori

15 Jun v Wellington (I have my ticket)

18 Jun v Otago

21 Jun v Southland

25 Jun v ALL BLACKS

28 Jun v Manawatu

2 Jul v ALL BLACKS

5 Jul v Auckland,

9 Jul v ALL BLACKS

A month tommorrow, what grounds are the games against the All Blacks? Hopefully one isn't at Dunedin as that is one hard place to go.

Lions Tour:

4 Jun v Bay of Plenty

8 Jun v Taranaki

11 Jun v NZ Maori

15 Jun v Wellington (I have my ticket)

18 Jun v Otago

21 Jun v Southland

25 Jun v ALL BLACKS

28 Jun v Manawatu

2 Jul v ALL BLACKS

5 Jul v Auckland,

9 Jul v ALL BLACKS

thanks

A month tommorrow, what grounds are the games against the All Blacks? Hopefully one isn't at Dunedin as that is one hard place to go.

Heres a better draw:

June 4 Lions v Bay of Plenty Rotorua International Stadium 7.10pm

June 8 Lions v Taranaki Yarrow Stadium, New Plymouth 7.10pm

June 11 Lions v NZ Maori Waikato Stadium, Hamilton 7.10pm

June 15 Lions v Wellington Westpac Stadium, Wellington 7.10pm

June 18 Lions v Otago Carisbrook, Dunedin 7.10pm

June 21 Lions v Southland Rugby Park Stadium, Invercargill 7.10pm

June 25 Lions v All Blacks Jade Stadium, Christchurch 7.10pm

June 28 Lions v Manawatu Arena Manwatu, Palmerston N 7.10pm

July 2 Lions v All Blacks Westpac Stadium, Wellington 7.10pm

July 5 Lions v Auckland Eden Park, Auckland 7.10pm

July 9 Lions v All Blacks Eden Park, Auckland 7.10pm

Few only a tour match at Dunedin, as England went down their last year and got trashed!

Few only a tour match at Dunedin, as England went down their last year and got trashed!

Thats why its 'the house of pain'


Actually, if I remember correctly it took Australia 96 years to win a game in dunedin, and we've played them way more than anyone.

Thats why its 'the house of pain'


Actually, if I remember correctly it took Australia 96 years to win a game in dunedin, and we've played them way more than anyone.

Is it true that most of the rugby grounds in New Zealand are creicket grounds during the summer months? Also has any Northern Hemisphere team won at Dunedin?

Is it true that most of the rugby grounds in New Zealand are creicket grounds during the summer months? Also has any Northern Hemisphere team won at Dunedin?

A lot of them are, but most domestic teams have a seperate ground to avoid clashes with rugby, with internationals played at the main grounds.

I'm not sure, one probably has at some stage. I'm having a look around Allblacks.com at the history against various teams to find out.


They've lost to the lions there twice, once in 1971 and once in 1930. Not bad for the lions cosidering their all time record against the All Blacks is 6-26-3 (wins-losses-draws)

A lot of them are, but most domestic teams have a seperate ground to avoid clashes with rugby, with internationals played at the main grounds.

I'm not sure, one probably has at some stage. I'm having a look around Allblacks.com at the history against various teams to find out.


They've lost to the lions there twice, once in 1971 and once in 1930. Not bad for the lions cosidering their all time record against the All Blacks is 6-26-3 (wins-losses-draws)


Thanks! Hopefully by the end of the tour their will be a nine in the wins column lol!

So who does every one think will line up for the Lions or New Zealand in the First Test at Christchurch?

The Lions Hompage is:

http://www.lionsrugby.com/

While the All Blacks Hompage is:

http://www.nzrugby.com/

My Lions Team at the moment is:

Backs
15. Geordan Murphy (Ire)
14. Jason Robinson (Eng)
13. Brian O'Driscoll (Ire)
12. Gavin Henson (Wal)
11. Josh Lewsey (Eng)
10. Johnny Wilkinson (Eng)
9. Dwayne Peel (Wal)

Forwards
1. Gethin Jenkins (Wal)
2. Steve Thompson (Eng)
3. Julian White (Eng)
4. Donavon O'Callaghan (Ire)
5. Paul O'Connell (Ire)
6. Richard Hill (Eng)
7. Martyn Williams (Wal)
8. Larwence Dalligaio (Eng)

Replacements
16. Matt Stevens (Eng)
17. Shane Bryne (Ire)
18. Danny Grewcock (Eng)
19. Neil Back (Eng)
20. Chris Cusiter (Sco)
21. Steven Jones (Wal)
22. Ollie Smith (Eng)

Cool, do you know his name?

Whose, the boy or his dad?

His dad was Mark Davies (MIGHT have been Davis, now I think about it, with no 'e'). I assume that's who you meant.

Whose, the boy or his dad?

His dad was Mark Davies (MIGHT have been Davis, now I think about it, with no 'e'). I assume that's who you meant.

Yea, can't say ive heard of him, i'll look him up!