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Why are there no places in society for unattractive teenage males? I mean, I'm smart. Why must these superficial societies place emphasis on appearance?(I'm talking of my world, the teenage world, as I wouldnt know what adulthood is like)I guess I'm just complaining because I've never had a girlfriend, but it pisses me off that people (girls) my age don't care for humor, intelligence or character. Can someone explain this? Is the real world like this? And, probably least important, as my existence, as is every other human's existence, doesn't matter that much in the big picture, how do I get girls?

By the way, I'm not THAT ugly.

chess club?

chess club?

I'm not into chess.

chess club?

*whacks LP with a small, wooden chair*

In a darkened room, playing on your computer, thinking of all of those hot mall chicks?

*whacks LP with a small, wooden chair*

Thanks.

it pisses me off that people (girls) my age don't care for humor, intelligence or character.
guys your age dont care for humour intelligence or character either. theyre teenagers, what do you expect?

In a darkened room, playing on your computer, thinking of all of those hot mall chicks?

Ha ha. Very funny. :mad:

There are many places for them-I see them all over the place. Some work in the movie theater and get to wear those cool red vests.

Sure there are places for unattractive teen males. Fast food restaurants are hiring, somewhere a D&D game is going on, and there's always the ever-popular locked in the bathroom with a hustler magazine.

guys your age dont care for humour intelligence or character either. theyre teenagers, what do you expect?

At least two people who feel the same way.

What's MIT for then?

Quit your bitching. No one's going to shag you if you're whining all the time. Wait till college, there are loads of girls of every type there. Trust me, you'll get some lovin there.

Well, I think it's because teenage girls now think they rule the world, and most (that I've met) are looking mainly for looks at that age. Try growing your hair out possibly? I dunno. It worked for me.

Quit your bitching. No one's going to shag you if you're whining all the time. Wait till college, there are loads of girls of every type there. Trust me, you'll get some lovin there.

This was my first time actually whining about society.

guys your age dont care for humour intelligence or character either. theyre teenagers, what do you expect?

Isn't that a huge generalisation? :)

This was my first time actually whining about society.
really? your first? well, um, it meant a lot that you did it with us. yeah. i hope it didn't hurt too much. i'll call you, really.

To paraphrase American Dad:

"We don't get much action now. We won't get the prime babes until our mid-to-late 30s, when we're hauling in the cash."

Teenagers do have very strange priorities. It does change. Just be yourself, and then you'll have had more practice at it by the time you reach the age that this becomes important. The worst thing you can possibly do is get morose; remember that it will be a distant blur in no time at all, and enjoy it in every way that you are able.

No, there is no place for you. Accept it. Spend all of your time on your debating, speaking, and thinking skills, as well as expanding your knowledge of the world.
Then you'll be ready when the geeks finally take over the world. :)

Isn't that a huge generalisation? :)
this whole thread is a generalisation

Why are there no places in society for unattractive teenage males?

Key question: what makes you think you are unattractive?

Key question: what makes you think you are unattractive?

Mostly other people.

There are gonna be dicks everywhere u go dude, but i will tell u this much: I've found people who are genuinely intelligent do not care that much about how someone looks. Having said that, if u want some sugar now, :fluffle: it wouldn't hurt to try and improve your physical appearance. your problem may not be your appearance: it might be your metaperception. U know, how people see u. U say you are smart. Do you try and conduct long conversations and use words nobody knew? That did definitely not work for me, and it won't work for you.

There are gonna be dicks everywhere u go dude, but i will tell u this much: I've found people who are genuinely intelligent do not care that much about how someone looks. Having said that, if u want some sugar now, :fluffle: it wouldn't hurt to try and improve your physical appearance. your problem may not be your appearance: it might be your metaperception. U know, how people see u. U say you are smart. Do you try and conduct long conversations and use words nobody knew? That did definitely not work for me, and it won't work for you.

I don't.

*whacks LP with a small, wooden chair*
*inserts a black bishop into Potaria's ear*

that people (girls) my age don't care for humor, intelligence or character. Can someone explain this?

Actually, a lot of girls do look for those three things, but since they usually can't find them, and I'm guessing that you don't actively search girls out and chat them up, they usually end up having to go for looks after personality...

Actually, a lot of girls do look for those three things, but since they usually can't find them, and I'm guessing that you don't actively search girls out and chat them up, they usually end up having to go for looks after personality...

I have a lot of friends that are girls, and I've liked them at one point or another, and have told them, but still nothing.

Mostly other people.

Ah. In that case the answer is obvious - fuck 'em - if they are happy judging you purely on surface charcteristics, then they probably aren't worth your time anyway.

I have a lot of friends that are girls, and I've liked them at one point or another, and have told them, but still nothing.
*laughs* Friends from childhood, or at least from a decent while ago I'm guessing... Easiest thing to do is just watch for any girl who has had a few interested glances at you, talk to her after class or whenever, then try to make your strike A.S.A.P.... and also, to all their comments about making yourself look more attractive, if you're going to change your appearance, do sou to improve your own confidence.

I have a lot of friends that are girls, and I've liked them at one point or another, and have told them, but still nothing.
They like you AS A FRIEND. I've been there (who am I kidding, I'm still there). You'll have to find a girl who will fall in love with you the moment she meets you. Building love out of a friendship is nearly impossible.

I know a place for smart teenage males. its called the Duke TIP Summer Studies Program: U spend three weeks on a college campus, taking these really cool college level courses, going to dances, and generally chilling and having fun with really cool people. Admittedly, u have to take the ACT or SAT
before sophmore year and pay some money, but trust me: There are always smart people there( even some smart chicks who are pretty hot.) who like Weird AL and other cool nerd stuff. If u can get in, you will have the time of your life :cool:

I know a place for smart teenage males. its called the Duke TIP Summer Studies Program: U spend three weeks on a college campus, taking these really cool college level courses, going to dances, and generally chilling and having fun with really cool people. Admittedly, u have to take the ACT or SAT
before sophmore year and pay some money, but trust me: There are always smart people there( even some smart chicks who are pretty hot.) who like Weird AL and other cool nerd stuff. If u can get in, you will have the time of your life :cool:

Is...is that place heaven?

Amen to that. I admit i haven't had a girlfriend in a while( but i'm going into high school this fall) All i know to tell u is this: Try and find someone with similar interests, then a few jokes, finally, this is vitally important step, keep the conversations centered on the girl.

P.S. Fifty bucks says Weird Al is gonna write a song about Episode 3
New Nerd World Order! :D

I'm going to HIgh School this fall, too.

Originally posted by: Gambioshia: Is.. is that place heaven?

Actually there are multiple campuses one can go to:
Davidson College
Duke University East Campus
Duke University West Campus
Appalachian State Univesity
and University of Kansas

Trust me, all its missing is some Pearly Gates and golden streets

Originally posted by: Gambioshia: Is.. is that place heaven?

Actually there are multiple campuses one can go to:
Davidson College
Duke University East Campus
Duke University West Campus
Appalachian State Univesity
and University of Kansas

Trust me, all its missing is some Pearly Gates and golden streets

Dammit! I live in SF! There's no way in hell I'd be able to go to any of those schools. Why can't they have one at UC Berkeley?!

Why are there no places in society for unattractive teenage males? I mean, I'm smart. Why must these superficial societies place emphasis on appearance?(I'm talking of my world, the teenage world, as I wouldnt know what adulthood is like)I guess I'm just complaining because I've never had a girlfriend, but it pisses me off that people (girls) my age don't care for humor, intelligence or character. Can someone explain this? Is the real world like this? And, probably least important, as my existence, as is every other human's existence, doesn't matter that much in the big picture, how do I get girls?


Hmmmm..let me think, I know I saw a place......

Oh yeah, the line that formed for the Star Wars 3 premiere.... :D

I live in Chicago so YAHOO!!!!

Theres a website u can go to to find out more about it. www.duketip.edu

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=420269

OMG! She actually wants a geek! *faints*

it pisses me off that people (girls) my age don't care for humor, intelligence or character.

Some do; though it might depend on your countries culture. It is possible that you are just not picking up the signs.

I found that actually listening to girls quickly puts you in the friend category. Being shy and elusive on the other hand seemed to be turnons. But again: your local culture may dictate otherwise.

Some do; though it might depend on your countries culture. It is possible that you are just not picking up the signs.

I found that actually listening to girls quickly puts you in the friend category. Being shy and elusive on the other hand seemed to be turnons. But again: your local culture may dictate otherwise.

I'm a good listener.

U just might be able to fly to Kansas( or elsewhere) they have people with signs who pick kids up from the airport. Go to the website, there may be something i've forgotten.

P.S. Whats it like living in California? I live in the Southeast.

U just might be able to fly to Kansas( or elsewhere) they have people with signs who pick kids up from the airport. Go to the website, there may be something i've forgotten.

P.S. Whats it like living in California? I live in the Southeast.

California is like the AWESOMEST PLACE EVER!!! Well...excluding Vegas (I'm a poker player, illegaly of course). San Francisco is so awesome. You can never run out of stuff to do. It's really cold in the summer though. "The coldest winter I've ever been through was a summer in San Francisco"--Mark Twain. It's still awesome, though. But since we're ruled by a fucking Austrian, the awesomosity has gone down. You should come when he's gone.

gets laid in Texas every 30 minutes.


Move to Texas.

gets laid in Texas every 30 minutes.


Move to Texas.

TEXAS?! I must stay in blue states! *Sorry to bring politics in, but it's a thing of mine*

Why are there no places in society for unattractive teenage males? I mean, I'm smart. Why must these superficial societies place emphasis on appearance?(I'm talking of my world, the teenage world, as I wouldnt know what adulthood is like)I guess I'm just complaining because I've never had a girlfriend, but it pisses me off that people (girls) my age don't care for humor, intelligence or character. Can someone explain this? Is the real world like this? And, probably least important, as my existence, as is every other human's existence, doesn't matter that much in the big picture, how do I get girls?
Immaturity and lack of experience.

TEXAS?! I must stay in blue states! *Sorry to bring politics in, but it's a thing of mine*
Oops! Well, there's a big part of the problem ... you're allowing your politics to get in the way of your love-life! Tsk! :D

I'm surprised my first thread got this many responses. Thanks all.

Getting closer to 100 posts...

Ok...current subject is going nowhere...how about a topic change?

*Thread crashes and dies after a short life*

Immaturity and lack of experience.
And between those two, i'd definitely say that it's maturity that makes the bigger difference.

Getting closer to 100 posts...
*chuckles*

sorry :p

Dammit! I live in SF! There's no way in hell I'd be able to go to any of those schools. Why can't they have one at UC Berkeley?!

Because they have one at Stanford... http://summersession.stanford.edu/. You live on campus and all that.

And we all know: Stanford OWNS UC Berkeley!

Why are there no places in society for unattractive teenage males?

Pfft .... Halo clan servers. Duh.

TEXAS?! I must stay in blue states! *Sorry to bring politics in, but it's a thing of mine*

Texas is a purple state.

TEXAS?! I must stay in blue states!
Meh, I'm looking for a libertarian state as is....

Poll!

Take over the world!

Ok who voted chess club?

Why are there no places in society for unattractive teenage males? I mean, I'm smart. Why must these superficial societies place emphasis on appearance?(I'm talking of my world, the teenage world, as I wouldnt know what adulthood is like)I guess I'm just complaining because I've never had a girlfriend, but it pisses me off that people (girls) my age don't care for humor, intelligence or character. Can someone explain this? Is the real world like this? And, probably least important, as my existence, as is every other human's existence, doesn't matter that much in the big picture, how do I get girls?
You live in a really messed up spot. I'm 14, trust me I'm not the hottest or buffest guy on the block (a ways from it i guess :( ) but I've dated girls becuase they find me funny and nice. If the girls where you are don't care about that stuff, they probably aren't even worth it man. By the way how old are you? That sometimes has an effect.

You live in a really messed up spot. I'm 14, trust me I'm not the hottest or buffest guy on the block (a ways from it i guess :( ) but I've dated girls becuase they find me funny and nice. If the girls where you are don't care about that stuff, they probably aren't even worth it man. By the way how old are you? That sometimes has an effect.

13...100th post!

Ok who voted chess club?
I'm staying with my original vote :p

Who voted stop bitching and slit wrists?

13...100th post!
I'd wait one more year or so for the girls to get a bit older. Some girls around that age see that personality is better, but not many.

I'd wait one more year or so for the girls to get a bit older. Some girls around that age see that personality is better, but not many.

Ok. Thanks.

I call it "The Human Race" because humans are unintelligent and superficial. (Btw, I'm human so that also makes me unintelligent and superficial :P)

Who voted stop bitching and slit wrists?
Dude, if you wanted to know you should have made it a public poll.

Dude, if you wanted to know you should have made it a public poll.

It was you, wasn't it?

It was you, wasn't it?
Actually, I wasn't going to vote. But now I did :D

dont let it get u down mate, iv a mate whos always complaining that he cant find a gf. i just tell him 2 b confident and not to take rejection to heart. im in a happy relationship wit me gf for a couple of years now but im sure if i was single id b thinkin the same way as u. wat u need to do is just relax and play it cool, dnt let it get u down

A great sense of humor can get you just about anywhere... Don't get yourself down. :)

A great sense of humor can get you just about anywhere... Don't get yourself down. :)

Though this is arrogant, I am hilarious.

Though this is arrogant, I am hilarious.
Do others think so too?

Do others think so too?

Yes.

Yes.
Girls? Who are not already your friends?

(no offence to you, just inquisitive)

Girls? Who are not already your friends?

(no offence to you, just inquisitive)

Yes. None Taken.

Yes. None Taken.
Then what IS your problem with them?

I picked "try to gain self-confidence" because this is useful advice regardless of what your problem is.

Then what IS your problem with them?

I don't know, I asked this question in the thread-starter-thingy.

Dude you're only 13, at that point I honestly think that the probability of girls going out with you is about 50/50. Girls at that point have(from my limited knowledge as a guy) mostly stupid crushes, all for the same guy for any dumb reason. I remember a guy in sixth grade whom the girls all had a crush on because he shaved. Wait until high school, junior high is the worst part of education imo. I didn't learn anything during those two years and came out somehow more immature than I went in. High school freshman year, everyhting changes. And it honestly seems like most guys' and girls' lives at that point get better.

Though this is arrogant, I am hilarious.
You know, I have a friend just like you. Perhaps the funniest kid I know, real big nerd (He and I have had hour+ long conversations about Stargate), incredibly smart, but he's plain-looking and doesn't think hygiene is important.

Gradually, his winning personality came out. He's been with his girlfriend for over a month now.

Dude you're only 13, at that point I honestly think that the probability of girls going out with you is about 50/50. Girls at that point have(from my limited knowledge as a guy) mostly stupid crushes, all for the same guy for any dumb reason. I remember a guy in sixth grade whom the girls all had a crush on because he shaved. Wait until high school, junior high is the worst part of education imo. I didn't learn anything during those two years and came out somehow more immature than I went in. High school freshman year, everyhting changes. And it honestly seems like most guys' and girls' lives at that point get better.

So many people actually care!

You know, I have a friend just like you. Perhaps the funniest kid I know, real big nerd (He and I have had hour+ long conversations about Stargate), incredibly smart, but he's plain-looking and doesn't think hygiene is important.

Gradually, his winning personality came out. He's been with his girlfriend for over a month now.

Sounds like me except I don't watch Stargate and I think hygiene is very important.

Sounds like me except I don't watch Stargate and I think hygiene is very important.
You're not supposed to nitpick. This is supposed to be encouragement!

You're not supposed to nitpick. This is supposed to be encouragement!

I know. I just didn't want to be classified as a smelly dude, is all.

Well. First off I only read the origanal post (I don't have 3 hours to read all the others) but I'd like to tell you my story.
I'm a girl... and I met the guy that I like in Chess club (although, that was kind of an exception... I'm not your average girl. I was the only girl in chess club, but I won the tournament. Ha. I defined fear in that club) ok... sorry... got a bit side tracked.....
The guy that I like is REALLY hot. Probably if I showed you his picture you would not agree. He has pimples all over his face, only they aren't really pimples... they are always there. He's big, (not really fat, just big) and really tall. There is no way he'd win cutest guy or anything like that...... But I think he's cute because I know he's a great guy.

I personally only like smart guys. (well, except for the one really cute guy... but that was only for a month and I don't like him now...) I think you just have to find the right girl. If you'd like to read my story then go here http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=420959
But don't give up. Smart girls will like smart guys.... and if you're smart then it won't matter how ugly you are. You may not have a girl friend now, but that may save you a lot of heart ache. Think about it. If you find the girl right off then you won't have to worry about any other girls.

Well. First off I only read the origanal post (I don't have 3 hours to read all the others) but I'd like to tell you my story.
I'm a girl... and I met the guy that I like in Chess club (although, that was kind of an exception... I'm not your average girl. I was the only girl in chess club, but I won the tournament. Ha. I defined fear in that club) ok... sorry... got a bit side tracked.....
The guy that I like is REALLY hot. Probably if I showed you his picture you would not agree. He has pimples all over his face, only they aren't really pimples... they are always there. He's big, (not really fat, just big) and really tall. There is no way he'd win cutest guy or anything like that...... But I think he's cute because I know he's a great guy.

I personally only like smart guys. (well, except for the one really cute guy... but that was only for a month and I don't like him now...) I think you just have to find the right girl. If you'd like to read my story then go here http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=420959
But don't give up. Smart girls will like smart guys.... and if you're smart then it won't matter how ugly you are. You may not have a girl friend now, but that may save you a lot of heart ache. Think about it. If you find the girl right off then you won't have to worry about any other girls.

I read some of your thread. I even responded.

There are no places in society for an attractive wilderness adventurer either. I guess because I largely ignore it altogether and disappear into the woods, but I am trapped in the city that slowly envelops the surrounding countryside. No one likes to hike at night, no one likes to jump off cliffs into water. Everyone is afraid of the serial killer, axe murderer, chainsaw massacre, super sharks, super snakes, super spiders and other hypostatizations TV loads into thier minds. Whatever girl I pickup is going to be really crazy my bros say.

I read some of your thread. I even responded.
Oh... lol... *feels stupid* well... sorry. I never remember people... not even in real life (and who could blame me? tons of people replied...)
Well. Anyway. You'll find a girl... just wait till the right one comes along. (man, now I feel soooo bad... I'm so sorry!)

heh...welcome to my world

Oh... lol... *feels stupid* well... sorry. I never remember people... not even in real life (and who could blame me? tons of people replied...)
Well. Anyway. You'll find a girl... just wait till the right one comes along. (man, now I feel soooo bad... I'm so sorry!)

You don't have to be.

I'm going to HIgh School this fall, too.
WOah.Dude. If you're worried about not having a girlfriend at 13, don't.
Boys don't know what a girl is in elementary school. Seriously, high school is an excellent chance to meet girls. Let it slide. And about your looks: Wait for puberty! :D

You don't have to be.
Thanks... :) I feel better now.

Thanks... :) I feel better now.

Your Welcome.

Gambo, just thank you're lucky stars that you're not an unattractive teenage female. Them poor kids are often even more outcast than their male counterparts.

TEXAS?! I must stay in blue states! *Sorry to bring politics in, but it's a thing of mine*
Don't be facestious. I'm sure that not all people who live in Bush majority states are right-wing cross-burning nutjobs. :rolleyes:

California is like the AWESOMEST PLACE EVER!!! Well...excluding Vegas
I suggest you get to know your home state better. I'm not even American and I know that Vegas is in Nevada, not California!

Meh, I'm looking for a libertarian state as is....
Aren't all you guys moving to New Hampshire?

13...100th post!
Only thirteen? Dude, no need to worry about that stuff when you're that young.

I suggest you get to know your home state better. I'm not even American and I know that Vegas is in Nevada, not California!


I knew Las Vegas was in Nevada. That's I said California is the awesomest place ever, excluding Vegas, which is awesomer, because Vegas is out of the borders of California. For if it were in California, CAlifornia would be the awesomest place ever.

HEYY! The world is a big place. If the local girls don't appreciate you as a character, it's their loss *shrugs*. You actually want to avoid girls who only look for looks. What looks will you have, or she have, in 60 years' time? Character is what matters.

HEYY! The world is a big place. If the local girls don't appreciate you as a character, it's their loss *shrugs*. You actually want to avoid girls who only look for looks. What looks will you have, or she have, in 60 years' time? Character is what matters.

Great point.

I know where you are coming from. All the teenage girls claim they want a smart and funny guy who will treat them right but they consistently go back to the stupid jocks who treat them like crap. But after awhile they will realize that they have been looking at the wrong characteristics and will come around. It is hard but hang in there all you teenage guys.

I know where you are coming from. All the teenage girls claim they want a smart and funny guy who will treat them right but they consistently go back to the stupid jocks who treat them like crap. But after awhile they will realize that they have been looking at the wrong characteristics and will come around. It is hard but hang in there all you teenage guys.
sweepingly generalize much?

To answer the title of the thread: Because God hates me.

I know where you are coming from. All the teenage girls claim they want a smart and funny guy who will treat them right but they consistently go back to the stupid jocks who treat them like crap. But after awhile they will realize that they have been looking at the wrong characteristics and will come around. It is hard but hang in there all you teenage guys.

That's the situation with a friend of mine. She keeps going back to this guy who keeps hurting her.

What's MIT for then?
Guys like him.

Get into a school of that caliber and you'll realize that a good chunk of the guys are socially maladjusted recluses. There is no female version of this (female!=geek, ever), so there will be a lot of smart girls and very few guys with any social skills.

Jackpot.

I've had many, many more crushes on reasonably unattractive guys who are really fun to be around than on great looking assholes. However, I would probably go for a great looking amazing to be around guy than an unattractive great to be around guy. But that's human nature.

That's the situation with a friend of mine. She keeps going back to this guy who keeps hurting her.


Look, I skipped over most of the replies, because I wanted to address your original question directly. And it is a good question, believe me.

But society doesn't owe you a place, you don't "deserve" a girlfriend or confidence or anything of the sort. You are looking in the mirror and saying,

"Hey, I'm a good person, a smart fellow, I have the potential to love and be sexual and to enjoy this life... But it never seems to happen for me. Why?"

The long and the short of it is this: You must do it for yourself.

You have to realize that you must change your behaviour to get a different response from women. Even if you are perfect (not likely), other people have to SEE THAT, so you at the very least need to start selling yourself.

Insanity is doing the same thing over and over but execting a different result each time! Don't be crazy, try to get an image and sell it. Women are all different, teenage girls are all crazy, but a few things are sure-fire with the ladies:

1) Confidence
2) Appearance and Poise
3) Money

No woman wants a weak-willed ninny. You are such a great and wonderful person, ACT LIKE IT. Don't be arrogant, but also don't let people clown you or disrespect you. Walk tall and look people (even girls) in the eye and say what you want and stick to your guns. This is confidence.

Even if you are dressed as Han Solo at a Star Wars Convention, be happy about it and don't feel or act guilty- embrace who you are and make sure people know you love it.

When people do look at you like you've grown a second head, or snicker at your ideas, or what-not, don't just stand there and be embarrassed, strike back.

It helps if you are not saying/doing retarded things around the wrong people (Like going to school as Han Solo). So check your behaviour against the "norm" and don't try to change it, just go along with it. You might be truly unique, but nobody else cares and they have expectations that you'll play along with them. However, if people give you flack when you haven't done anything strange, don't put up with it.

Poise is when you take a social hit and keep on walking like it never happened. Don't let them ruffle your feathers. Either ignore them or flame them back or change the subject. Whatever you do, don't let them beat you down. But also know when the gig is up, don't stick around when the social bonfire is roasting you- Some people can't play nice and will gang up on you for the hell of it. Walk away immediately and don't return until or unless those people can show some respect for you.

Appearance comes next. You don't want to be strutting around like a peacock in dirty sweatpants and a faded Ghost in the Shell t-shirt with holes in it. Get some nice clothes that look good on you and wear them when out in public. Take a shower and fix your hair and just generally don't look like a slob or a freak when you walk out the door. Whether you are goth, nerd (don't be a nerd), preppy or jock, dress the part.

Money is last, but certainly not least. If you aren't idle rich, GET A JOB. Even if you are in school, your free time is better spent when you have money. Don't be afraid to use up half your free time at work when it means you can treat your dream-date to a fancy dinner and theater with the other half.

Get a car, some nice clothes, then offer to take some nice girl out on the town. Buy her dinner, some roses, take her to a show and be confident. Even if it backfires or otherwise goes horribly, you are putting out real effort.

No offense, but the jolt forums are not going to mail you a hot Russian bride, so even if all this advice is utterly worthless to you, just try something new and see if it doesn't help you out!

(One more thing- In the USA, women love assholes. If you think you'll ever get play with the "Nice Guy" routine, forget it. Try being an asshole for a few days, you'll probably have a harem of women. I learned my lessons the hard way in high school. This is the hardest lesson to learn about women, and the one most people deny, decry and challenge as false. I won't argue about it, just know that it is true and use it to your advantage... Yours Truly, ex Nice Guy, now busy gettin' laid.)

Why are there no places in society for unattractive teenage males? I mean, I'm smart. Why must these superficial societies place emphasis on appearance?(I'm talking of my world, the teenage world, as I wouldnt know what adulthood is like)I guess I'm just complaining because I've never had a girlfriend, but it pisses me off that people (girls) my age don't care for humor, intelligence or character. Can someone explain this? Is the real world like this? And, probably least important, as my existence, as is every other human's existence, doesn't matter that much in the big picture, how do I get girls?
If you are unattractive then you obviously can't blame people for not being attracted to you. You can attempt to build an attractive personality and learn ways to enhance your physical appearance, and I assure you these things WILL increase your odds with girls. You also need to be aware that there are plenty of females of all ages who DO care for humor, intelligence, and character, but most of those girls don't happen to look like supermodels...you may have to "settle" for a girl who--like yourself--is not as physically attractive as she is mentally. Most of the guys I meet who complain about not being able to get girls are actually complaining that they can't get HOT girls, and they ignore or reject advances from females who don't meet their own standards of attractiveness.

Just don't expect other people to "settle" if you aren't willing to do the same.

I know where you are coming from. All the teenage girls claim they want a smart and funny guy who will treat them right but they consistently go back to the stupid jocks who treat them like crap. But after awhile they will realize that they have been looking at the wrong characteristics and will come around. It is hard but hang in there all you teenage guys.
Wow, you don't know many teenage girls, do you? I've been one, known many, and dated three, and my experience indicates that you are basing a wild generalization off the behavior of a tiny, tiny minority of teenage girls.

But hey, whatever helps you sleep at night...;)

To answer the title of the thread: Because God hates me.

I fail to see the logic behind that...

Why are there no places in society for unattractive teenage males?

Try Neverland Ranch.

Why are there no places in society for unattractive teenage males?

Because life sucks losers dry.
I mean, I'm smart. Why must these superficial societies place emphasis on appearance?(I'm talking of my world, the teenage world, as I wouldnt know what adulthood is like)

The world remains largely superficial, but money replaces looks after a while.
I guess I'm just complaining because I've never had a girlfriend, but it pisses me off that people (girls) my age don't care for humor, intelligence or character.

Not everyone agrees on humor, intelligence, or character. For example, most men like the humor of the Three Stooges, and most women can't stand the Three Stooges. When older, many men secretly like going to have a beer at Hooters - most women wouldn't be caught dead at Hooters.

Can someone explain this? Is the real world like this?

Can't really explain it, and yes.
And, probably least important, as my existence, as is every other human's existence, doesn't matter that much in the big picture, how do I get girls?


You're under the popular misconception that you "get" girls. Girls are like cats. They come to you when they want, for the reasons they have. You have precious little to do with it. And like a cat, if you try to force the cat to stay in the room or sit in your lap or pet the cat when it doesn't want to be petted, it won't work.

Practice dealing with a cat. It contains most of the secrets in dealing with women. Show the cat some respect, freedom, and kindness (when the cat asks for it), and learn the non-verbal communication with a cat, and you'll be much closer to understanding women.

become an emo boy and grow your hair so long it covers your face

Practice dealing with a cat. It contains most of the secrets in dealing with women. Show the cat some respect, freedom, and kindness (when the cat asks for it), and learn the non-verbal communication with a cat, and you'll be much closer to understanding women.
Lol, never heard that cat metaphor before, it's great. :D

You're under the popular misconception that you "get" girls. Girls are like cats. They come to you when they want, for the reasons they have. You have precious little to do with it. And like a cat, if you try to force the cat to stay in the room or sit in your lap or pet the cat when it doesn't want to be petted, it won't work.

Practice dealing with a cat. It contains most of the secrets in dealing with women. Show the cat some respect, freedom, and kindness (when the cat asks for it), and learn the non-verbal communication with a cat, and you'll be much closer to understanding women.
fuckin a.

From a woman giving some advice:

It seems as if single men are discovering what single women have known since ancient Egyptian times: Cats are worthy of worship.

At least unmarried British men say so, in a recent survey conducted by Cats Protection, a leading animal welfare society in the United Kingdom. And judging by the delirious worship that single men I know lavish on their kitties, I'd like to think American men -- those brave enough to stand up and be counted -- feel the same way. The survey showed that 85 percent of men, and 94 percent of women, don't think it's wimpy or needy for a man to love his cat. In addition, just as many single men as single women said they enjoy "lavishing care" on their cat....

More than anything, the survey showed that unmarried laddies go as delightfully off the deep end over their pets as women have been teased for doing for centuries. Single male cat owners are more likely than their female counterparts to have made, or consider making, a sacrifice for their cat, including giving up a vacation and going into debt. Three-quarters of male respondents say their cats fulfill their cuddle requirements, and single men are also almost as likely as single women to consider choosing their cat over their partner.


It's long been said by women that cats are excellent guy-o-meters -- capable of spotting a bad one with a sniff. I always found the converse to be true: Men who were good to my cats -- and not in a manipulative, let's- impress-her-with-my-sensitivity kind of way -- were going to be good to me.

There is a moral to this story.

Men, if you want many good things in life, get a cat. Why? So many reasons. There is the unconditional-love thing, the way science has proved that stress levels come down drastically when one is stroking a pet, etc. But here's additional incentive: They are babe magnets.

Yes, according to this same British survey, women love men with cats. Ninety percent of single women surveyed thought men who like cats are "nicer" -- i.e., more caring and sensitive -- than those who don't. A quick poll of my cat-loving single girlfriends bears this out.

What exactly are you looking for in a girlfriend? How pretty or smart? I'd bet you can pick up some fat chicks if you like...but I would be that's not what you want, huh? I hear the same story from many people much like yourself.

Listen...the old times are dead, because we meet some many people in our lives now some think they can AFFORD to wait until their perfect person comes along. It's enhanced the objectification of beauty and above average traits. Truth is, it probably won't happen for most of us.
Look at people as a combination of attractive factors. The more you have, the higher your value to the opposite sex. If your value isn't high you probably aren't going to score some trophy yourself. Sure, we'd all like to have an attractive and envied mate, but it can't happen for everyone.

Lower your standards and stop worrying about what other people think, because you are the only one holding yourself back from having a good time. I've been fortunate enough to run the gauntlet when it comes to dating, and the pretty girls are no better, and usually worse people than the people we see in everday life. And those girls who aren't so hot...they make up for it by being more devoted and doting partners. It is only when YOU stop judging people by outside appearence that you will meet people who feel the same. I wholeheartedly believe that we can be attracted to a much wider range of people than we think...yet we don't allow ourselves simply because of what OTHER people feel. Screw 'em, because this is your life and you choose what happens, k?

And lastly, if you want someone...GET OUT THERE! Sitting on the 'puter will very rarely get you chicks, dude. You will most likely be rejected a few times, so sit back, lick your wounds and get ready to try again. Most of us go through some sort of trial-and-error before we develop the skills we need, and it will improve many other areas of your life as well. So, what are you waiting for?

From a woman giving some advice:
Hmmm... interesting. I used to sacrifice lizards to my cats. I would get it for them, and then they would have hours of fun chasing it and playing around with it until it was very very dead.

The problem was getting it out from under some furniture before it started to rot. I then forbid them from bringing dead animals into the house, or killing animals in the house. It was a nightmare to clean up after they got that bird inside. Feathers and pieces of flesh all over the place.

Why are there no places in society for unattractive teenage males? I mean, I'm smart. Why must these superficial societies place emphasis on appearance?(I'm talking of my world, the teenage world, as I wouldnt know what adulthood is like)I guess I'm just complaining because I've never had a girlfriend, but it pisses me off that people (girls) my age don't care for humor, intelligence or character. Can someone explain this? Is the real world like this? And, probably least important, as my existence, as is every other human's existence, doesn't matter that much in the big picture, how do I get girls?
meh its all about self confidence... something attractive people seem to have in buckets and exude 24/7, and something that so many other people lack entirely, myself included.
chicks dig self confidence, and sometimes can't tell the difference between when a guy is self confident and when he's an over confident prick... hence the age old question: "why do chicks go out with assholes and not 'nice guys' like me?"
answer: self confidence.


problem is its not an easy thing to just suddenly develop - by its nature it has to come from within. you could try and fake it and just act self-confident, but that just leads to overdoing it and is the first step to becoming one of those assholes. sure you might get some girls (more than present i'm sure;)) but do you really want to be someone you're not? i sure don't.
girls always give the advice of 'be yourself'... as long as that 'self' is confident;)
so be yourself, but learn, somehow, to be happy and confident about yourself - then you win and the girlies will come flocking!
unfortunatley i'm still stuck at the stage of "how the fuck do i do that?" so i can't help there

of course a lot of this changes as you grow older, but the maxim of girls digging a self-confident guy who is just himself, as far as i know, never changes...

TEXAS?! I must stay in blue states! *Sorry to bring politics in, but it's a thing of mine*
Sadly, people don't seem to realize that staying in the states that vote like 80% in your favor is actually a bad thing. You only need 51% to win the state's election, so if you spread the voter base out over more states, you'll win more states. Hell, I despise both political parties, but I can still figure out that the more a party's voter base concentrates itself, the less effective they will be. I mean, just think if everyone who voted Democrat lived in CA, sure, you'd get the entire state government to be run by Democrats, but the Fedral Government would be left entirely to the Republicans and you'd never see a Democrat as president again.

But the real key is, get a whole bunch of people from the blue states (not enough to change their blue state status, but still, you don't even need 60% voting one way, and some states I believe I remember, especially in the Northeast had over 80% voting for Kerry last election) to move to swing states, thus turning them into blue states...

Not that it'd help much because in all seriousness, the Democrats aren't much better or different than the Republicans, but if you're gonna buy into either side's crap, you might as well actually do something helpful for them.

I chose stay at the computer... and that because:

Eventually you will become older and girls will start liking you for who you are.
Teenagers are fixated on sex... and that of course, would lead them to someone sexy.

Once the hormones are overcome by sense and sensibility, maturity, and the need for a soul-mate, you will be all set. ;)

Be patient, young padawan. :D

Hell if High School doesn't work out for you, just wait till you start making close to a 100k a year. You'll have no problems then.

Hell if High School doesn't work out for you, just wait till you start making close to a 100k a year. You'll have no problems then.
the world is sickeningly shallow

I'm in a similar position but now I just say "I don't need a GF" and truth be told I don't right now.

Join a gaming club and have fun.

Why are there no places in society for unattractive teenage males? I mean, I'm smart. Why must these superficial societies place emphasis on appearance?(I'm talking of my world, the teenage world, as I wouldnt know what adulthood is like)I guess I'm just complaining because I've never had a girlfriend, but it pisses me off that people (girls) my age don't care for humor, intelligence or character. Can someone explain this? Is the real world like this? And, probably least important, as my existence, as is every other human's existence, doesn't matter that much in the big picture, how do I get girls?

The question that comes to my mind is, have you tried dating ugly girls?

Hey,
I have acne and a bizarre mole on my face, and I broke my nose multiple times and it looks as if I had a snorted a marble when I was young.
I also have an attractive girlfriend and a decent amount of friends.
moral of the story: if I can get a girlfriend, anything is possible.

And my current girlfriend says she was attracted to my intellect/personality, so don't give up.

Create Your Own Place And Others Will Follow

the world is sickeningly shallow
You know what they say, "money makes the world go round."

Hey,
I have acne and a bizarre mole on my face, and I broke my nose multiple times and it looks as if I had a snorted a marble when I was young.
I also have an attractive girlfriend and a decent amount of friends.
moral of the story: if I can get a girlfriend, anything is possible.

There's nothing like money and some ability in the sack.