NationStates Jolt Archive

EDITED, due to mass amounts of misinterpretation. Ah, maybe I just needed to let off some steam. Probably should have thought before I spoke.

Dont you think that everyone is entitled to their own opinion? How is being a kid have anything to do with maturity? As far as im concerned, the people who cant ignore the stupidity of others are the ones who are immature. I know it may seem like many Americans can have...less then satisfactory qualities about them...but we are all human, and the reason for a lot of American comments (that are bad) are because there are a lot of Americans playing this game. Just makes the situation worse when you cant ignore them.

Proud American-Rusiennne 14 yrs.

Living in America, I've come to realize that many Americans act like ignorant immature children.

Prime Example: "Other countries hate America because they aren't free like us"...which is the equivalent of "They're just jealous!" and "Don't hate me because I'm beautiful!"

Another example: America is the bully in the proverbial playground. We take it upon ourselves to change all the other countries in the world...which usually just makes things worse.

Yet another example: When an American's point is proven wrong, he/she usually dodges the subject, or just refuses to believe that he/she is wrong - the equivalent of sticking your fingers in your ears and going "NANANNANAAA I CAN'T HEAR YOU! NANANANA"

Who else notices this kind of thing?

(By the way, feel free to give your own examples)

What, are you like 12 yrs old?

Dont you think that everyone is entitled to their own opinion? How is being a kid have anything to do with maturity? As far as im concerned, the people who cant ignore the stupidity of others are the ones who are immature. I know it may seem like many Americans can have...less then satisfactory qualities about them...but we are all human, and the reason for a lot of American comments (that are bad) are because there are a lot of Americans playing this game. Just makes the situation worse when you cant ignore them.

Proud American-Rusiennne 14 yrs.

I'm not saying age has to do with anything. But the behaviors of many people resemble the behaviors of the average first-grader.

Proud American-Rusiennne 14 yrs.
Only 14, eh what can I say. (17)
Childeshness is an international trait. Otherwise known as being an asshole.

I think the richer and more educated people are, the more ignorant and snobbish people get. So it's not an American problem, it's a worldwide rich-person problem.

Living in America, I've come to realize that many Americans act like ignorant immature children.

I agree, except they're flunking out of schools across the nation and rewriting standardized tests to cover their ignorance.

I think the richer and more educated people are, the more ignorant and snobbish people get. So it's not an American problem, it's a worldwide rich-person problem.

That's true, but what country is the richest?

That's true, but what country is the richest?
It depends on how you are defining richest.

"I'm not saying age has to do with anything. But the behaviors of many people resemble the behaviors of the average first-grader."

Well, I think all countries have people who can be assholes at times. But you have to ignore them, and try to let them be educated by society rather then by pushing them around and calling them school children. Insulting is not the way to open your opinion to those who disagree with you. Americans=school children is a little too broad...perhaps you could say assholes=school children? (and by assholes i do not mean americans, but idiotic people as a whole)

That's true, but what country is the richest?

Maybe it's not the richest in real terms. As you believe you are the richest and most powerful, you will become more snobbish. You could be dirt poor and still be snobbish. And it is quite obvious that many Americans and many other people think that the United States is the richest and most powerful, and that alone makes many Americans snobbish, even though they may not be the richest/capita.

Isnt Luxembourg the richest per capita?

(NOTE: THIS DOES NOT PERTAIN TO ALL AMERICANS! I AM ONE MYSELF!)

Living in America, I've come to realize that many Americans act like ignorant immature children.

Prime Example: "Other countries hate America because they aren't free like us"...which is the equivalent of "They're just jealous!" and "Don't hate me because I'm beautiful!"

Another example: America is the bully in the proverbial playground. We take it upon ourselves to change all the other countries in the world...which usually just makes things worse.

Yet another example: When an American's point is proven wrong, he/she usually dodges the subject, or just refuses to believe that he/she is wrong - the equivalent of sticking your fingers in your ears and going "NANANNANAAA I CAN'T HEAR YOU! NANANANA"

Who else notices this kind of thing?

(By the way, feel free to give your own examples)


Please, take a break and step away from the keyboard. You obviously don't have a life. You need to meet some real Americans.

Until you've seen the rich and poor, traveled most of the United States, seen the extremes of rural and urban - lived with the panoply of ethnicity that is only in the United States - you can't really comment on it.

Your view of Americans is colored largely by news reports, network pundits, Michael Moore, Euroweenies, and people who want to find a sound bite of someone ignorant and then generalize outwards from there.

Go find out for yourself how remote Washington D.C. is from the rest of the country - no matter whether the Democrats or Republicans are in power.

Serve on the line with the infantry - find out why they fight and kill - it's not for the reasons you think, or for the reasons everyone else who was never there seems to think, or for the reasons someone who *was* there thinks who wants to score points with his political party.

Isnt Luxembourg the richest per capita?
From what I can recall it is.

Basic premis of this thread.

I and people who agree with me are smart. Other people in my country are stupid. Please argue about this.

Hmm. . .no thanks.

Actually, the governments of a lot of countries do hate America because of the freedoms its citizens have.
First, Iran's favorite motto is "Death to America" mainly because of civil rights for women in America deemed immoral by fundamentalist Muslims.
It should be obvious that countries like North Korea dislike America because of the high level of civil rights compared to the people in their country.
Even many socialist countries dislike America because of our economic freedoms--that is, capitalism.

Reason out your arguments before you some up with some immature thread like this one.

Please, take a break and step away from the keyboard. You obviously don't have a life. You need to meet some real Americans.

Until you've seen the rich and poor, traveled most of the United States, seen the extremes of rural and urban - lived with the panoply of ethnicity that is only in the United States - you can't really comment on it.

Your view of Americans is colored largely by news reports, network pundits, Michael Moore, Euroweenies, and people who want to find a sound bite of someone ignorant and then generalize outwards from there.

Go find out for yourself how remote Washington D.C. is from the rest of the country - no matter whether the Democrats or Republicans are in power.

Serve on the line with the infantry - find out why they fight and kill - it's not for the reasons you think, or for the reasons everyone else who was never there seems to think, or for the reasons someone who *was* there thinks who wants to score points with his political party.


Hey, cmon, your as bad as he is if you do that to him. Respect people, you wonder why people are arrogant, its because if you disagree with someone, you automatically have the authority to demean this person! Lighten up, its not a big deal, the guy made a mistake, based on innocent judgment, a mistake im sure he will never make again.

Hey, cmon, your as bad as he is if you do that to him. Respect people, you wonder why people are arrogant, its because if you disagree with someone, you automatically have the authority to demean this person! Lighten up, its not a big deal, the guy made a mistake, based on innocent judgment, a mistake im sure he will never make again.

I'm not being arrogant. I think his opinion is extremely misinformed, largely by a lack of life experience.

Not demeaning him - I remember being there once.

This is by far the most condescending thread I have ever come across.

This is why I hate the NS forums.

*Makes a hasty departure.*

I'm not being arrogant. I think his opinion is extremely misinformed, largely by a lack of life experience.

Not demeaning him - I remember being there once.

Yeah, well instead of telling him how he can be informed, why dont you take the initiative and inform him yourself of why he is wrong.

Oh, and Kriorth, fancy seeing you here!

Wow, I'm receiving a lot of flameage from this thread. I'm not saying all americans are like this...I'm just sick and tired of the people that do this kind of thing.

I agree with leggs, you have no clue what your talking about untill you've 'seen' it all for your self, no offense. I, in my short and unpradictable life have met snobish, kind, evil, generous, fool hardy, good natured people, the list can get longer.

I am a conservative. I do not think that America is beyond reproach, I do not think that we are without flaw, and I certainly do not think that all people who do not like Americans are jealous.

I think we, as American citizens are fed as much propaganda about other nations, as other nations are fed about us. I find it extremely sad that conservatives are not allowed to have a voice without being viewed as closed minded bigots before word one is said. Seems to me that I have been cut off at the knees the minute I say that I have right leaning politics, by the same people who preach tolerance and freedom of speech. Who would you say is being immature?

I agree with leggs, you have no clue what your talking about untill you've 'seen' it all for your self, no offense. I, in my short and unpradictable life have met snobish, kind, evil, generous, fool hardy, good natured people, the list can get longer.

You think I'm saying everybody does this? I'm just saying that *Many* people do act this way.

Please, take a break and step away from the keyboard. You obviously don't have a life. You need to meet some real Americans.

Until you've seen the rich and poor, traveled most of the United States, seen the extremes of rural and urban - lived with the panoply of ethnicity that is only in the United States - you can't really comment on it.

Your view of Americans is colored largely by news reports, network pundits, Michael Moore, Euroweenies, and people who want to find a sound bite of someone ignorant and then generalize outwards from there.

Go find out for yourself how remote Washington D.C. is from the rest of the country - no matter whether the Democrats or Republicans are in power.

Serve on the line with the infantry - find out why they fight and kill - it's not for the reasons you think, or for the reasons everyone else who was never there seems to think, or for the reasons someone who *was* there thinks who wants to score points with his political party.

I think you missed the large "I am one myself" on top of his post.

Wow, I'm receiving a lot of flameage from this thread. I'm not saying all americans are like this...I'm just sick and tired of the people that do this kind of thing.


by making such a blanket statement about conservatives, you are engaging in the same behavior.

Goddessness']by making such a blanket statement about conservatives, you are engaging in the same behavior.

I said USUALLY!

Ah, fuck it, everybody is misinterpreting what I say.

well im done for tonight, school in the morning....the same school that is educating our youth to be so immoral and idiotic... :rolleyes:

Yeah, well instead of telling him how he can be informed, why dont you take the initiative and inform him yourself of why he is wrong.

We could start with a fairly simple example.

A large percentage of the American public is Hispanic (a rather vague and partially insulting term, but there it is).

I live in a town that is mostly composed of recently arrived Salvadorans (green card and legal) - some of them have become US Citizens.

They all wanted to come here because it IS a better life for them.

Not only that, but the majority of the ones who were citizens voted for Bush (there was a big swing towards the Republicans by Hispanics in general in the last election).

I've seen how hard these people work - and seen how much they believe in the ideal of the "American dream".

No, they're not in the richest country in the world (per capita). But they have certainly arrived in a country where a man can arrive with 50 cents in his pocket and become much, much more. Where his daughter can grow up with opportunities she would NEVER have in the country her father came from.

I could go on. And he wants to call these people "school children".

I'm asking that he step outside and take a look around.

No, we're not the wisest people in the world. But we're not the school children he thinks we are.

Ever seen that commercial, "I'm an American" ?

Americans aren't the white frat boys that we've been stereotyped into by the rest of the world.

no one is misinterpreting. Usually means more often than not, and that is a blanket statement, wouldn't you agree?

You are asking conservatives to have an open mind and listen and not act like children. I am asking you to do the same.

Goddessness, fancy seeing you here. Are you the same from the South Pacific?

And indeed. I'm sick of these leftists and so-called "liberals" that can't smell their own crap on their knees. It's ironic that the same people who accuse Americans of being arrogant do so with such high-handed self-righteousness that it becomes almost humorous.

You think I'm saying everybody does this? I'm just saying that *Many* people do act this way.

No i don't, I know what you are saying, but some would be a better word,
I think it depends on where you live, what states/country

well im done for tonight, school in the morning....the same school that is educating our youth to be so immoral and idiotic... :rolleyes:


drama is unbecoming a school teacher. Thank you for your work, no thank you for your sarcasm.

Goddessness, fancy seeing you here. Are you the same from the South Pacific?

And indeed. I'm sick of these leftists and so-called "liberals" that can't smell their own crap on their knees. It's ironic that the same people who accuse Americans of being arrogant do so with such high-handed self-righteousness that it becomes almost humorous.



why yes I am!

Goddessness']drama is unbecoming a school teacher. Thank you for your work, no thank you for your sarcasm.

heh heh, he's/she's 14. Not mocking you, just struck me as a little funny.

heh heh, he's/she's 14. Not mocking you, just struck me as a little funny.


my bad! See? Conservatives can admit when they are wrong :D

Goddessness']my bad! See? Conservatives can admit when they are wrong :D

ooooooo! *shaking fist* you conservatives and your fancy admitting things! Hey wait, I am a conservative, darn.

It's rather becoming a rarity here on NS, seeing this many conservatives in one thread. XD

you know what I wonder? Why can't all of the conservative hating threads be merged into one, big mega conservative bashing thread so we don't have to sift through pages of the same, hateful crap?

Hey Shasarazade, I thought you looked (and sounded) familiar.
It's a small world after all!
*breaks into song*

Goddessness']you know what I wonder? Why can't all of the conservative hating threads be merged into one, big mega conservative bashing thread so we don't have to sift through pages of the same, hateful crap?

Well, the liberal mind has trouble focusing. If you put everything into one thread they couldn't stay on that thread long enough to use it. They would keep wondering over to other threads, randomly posting their wish for the death of Bush or something and people who had been talking about Star Trek captains would get a little annoyed when somebody posted "I hate Bush! America is bad bad!"

I'll catch hell from some liberals for that.

Somtimes I feel that the world is turning liberal-then I realize that all the liberals are actually just wasting their time on forums like this instead of spending their time actually doing anything in the real world, and I feel alright.

I just think it's sad. I am always willing to listen to another person's ideas. I may disagree, but am always willing to listen. The minute I open my mouth, however, I am instantly considered a redneck idiot...

//I just think it's sad. I am always willing to listen to another person's ideas. I may disagree, but am always willing to listen.//
That puts you ahead of 99% of the people in the world, either through your listening, your thinking by disagreeing, or your caring.

//I just think it's sad. I am always willing to listen to another person's ideas. I may disagree, but am always willing to listen.//
That puts you ahead of 99% of the people in the world, either through your listening, your thinking by disagreeing, or your caring.

*Wonders how this chap knows 99% of the people in the world* :rolleyes:

It was kind of hyperbole...like exaggeration to emphasize a point.

Well, the liberal mind has trouble focusing. If you put everything into one thread they couldn't stay on that thread long enough to use it. They would keep wondering over to other threads, randomly posting their wish for the death of Bush or something and people who had been talking about Star Trek captains would get a little annoyed when somebody posted "I hate Bush! America is bad bad!"

I'll catch hell from some liberals for that.
It shouldn't be just liberals giving you hell. That was, more or less, the most incoherent and overgeneralizing statement I've read ever accusing someone else of being chaotic.

Why liberals focus any less well than conservatives is beyond me.

It's about as accurate as saying all conservatives are simpletons.

Given the comments on this thread, that would be much easier to prove.

If you want to have an actual political discussion, engage people in it.

*sighs*
Let the flamefest begin.

*sighs*
Let the flamefest begin.
It had already begun.

I was annoyed.

You can see that this thread was not started by a conservative, that conservatives were not the first to start using this as a flameboard, and that the conversation was already dead when you showed up and revived it.

You can see that this thread was not started by a conservative, that conservatives were not the first to start using this as a flameboard, and that the conversation was already dead when you showed up and revived it.
Good point, I'll let it die after saying I'll let it die. Bit of a contradiction, but it's cool.

Serve on the line with the infantry - find out why they fight and kill - it's not for the reasons you think, or for the reasons everyone else who was never there seems to think, or for the reasons someone who *was* there thinks who wants to score points with his political party.
Okay, I'll bite. What are the reasons that the infantry "fights and kills"?

Riticulus= fool.

il say no more as i think this has thread has been flamed more than a flame grilled whopper at burger king. :p thank you that was my very brief two cents.


MODERATOR WHERE ART THOU :mad:

That's true, but what country is the richest?
i forget, its either U.A.E. or Kuwait. they are both giant oil fields with no people in them. that means they have the highest per capita income.

i forget, its either U.A.E. or Kuwait. they are both giant oil fields with no people in them. that means they have the highest per capita income.

I actually think it's Brunei. They have huge oilfields and hardly any people - and rainforests are more productive than deserts.