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American Fascist Party Website

Teutonnia
22-05-2005, 22:01
Hello,

I am pleased to announce that the American Fascist Party have a new website up www.americanfascistparty.com

Check it out and discuss with me if you like or dislike what we stand for!
Neo-Anarchists
22-05-2005, 22:10
What is the AFP's stance on:


gay marriage
abortion
taxing
CJ Holdings
22-05-2005, 22:13
I can't find a single thing about policies on that site.

If I'm missing something, could you provide me with a link?
Rummania
22-05-2005, 22:14
A website. Cool. Now you're as close to seizing power as Tucker Max and Maddox.
Super-power
22-05-2005, 22:22
In terms of the political compass, you fascist types are my mortal enemy - care to guess what I am?
CJ Holdings
22-05-2005, 22:23
In terms of the political compass, you fascist types are my mortal enemy - care to guess what I am?

An Anarchist? Or a Libertarian of some sort.
Super-power
22-05-2005, 22:26
A Libertarian of some sort?
Libertarian (libert. capitalist), yes.
Neo-Anarchists
22-05-2005, 22:26
I can't find a single thing about policies on that site.

If I'm missing something, could you provide me with a link?
Their last website did the exact same thing, but worse. It didn't have anything but one really long document 'explaining' fascism, but it was much too long to read. With this one, they have something a bit better:
http://www.americanfascistparty.com/what_is_fascism_

Of course, it doesn't describe their stance on any issue. The last few times I tried to pressure members into describing their stances, they hemmed and hawed about it, and then left without giving an answer. I'm hoping this guy might actually answer.

If not, I'm tempted to e-mail this 'Seth Tyrssen' fellow.

By the way, here's something rather funny from their site:
The Party is young, and growing; it is estimated that, according to many national and regional polls, over 65% of the American people are in agreement with its basic tenets. All that remains is to bring them into the fold.
:D
CJ Holdings
22-05-2005, 22:27
Libertarian (libert. capitalist), yes.

Thought so. :) Common misconception that Communism is the opposite to Fascism.
CSW
22-05-2005, 22:29
Thought so. :) Common misconception that Communism is the opposite to Fascism.
Economically, yes...
CJ Holdings
22-05-2005, 22:31
Economically, yes...

Yeah, that's what I meant. :)
CSW
22-05-2005, 22:52
Yeah, that's what I meant. :)
Um...no.

They are very similar in style of government, the oppression. Economically, communist states (not that any have existed yet, at least in the Marxist view) are highly different from fascist states.
Kervoskia
22-05-2005, 22:57
It seems rather out of place that Facsists are speaking of tyranny.
Super-power
22-05-2005, 22:59
It seems rather out of place that Facsists are speaking of tyranny.
Don't you just hate it when they try to come across as pro-freedom. I remember a good quote from our friend Swimmingpool:
You facists make right-wing sound like a dirty word
Tiocfaidh ar la
22-05-2005, 23:01
Why do fascists like Black so much? Is there a particular history to it like the Red with Communism?

You know when you've got a strong democracy when such groups exist. I would rather have participation than antipathy any day.....
Mt-Tau
22-05-2005, 23:01
A website. Cool. Now you're as close to seizing power as Tucker Max and Maddox.

I still like maddox's regressive party better.
Kervoskia
22-05-2005, 23:07
Don't you just hate it when they try to come across as pro-freedom.
Throughout the site is speaks of freedom, but wants enormous powers granted to the State. They're far, far too idealist.
Swimmingpool
22-05-2005, 23:07
Why do fascists like Black so much? Is there a particular history to it like the Red with Communism?
Yes, Mussolini's henchmen wore black shirts.

Don't you just hate it when they try to come across as pro-freedom. I remember a good quote from our friend Swimmingpool:
Thanks for quoting me despite my poor spelling and grammar!
Swimmingpool
22-05-2005, 23:11
The site is a joke. This page (http://www.americanfascistparty.com/afp_officers) proves it.
Bleezdale
22-05-2005, 23:13
Um...no.

They are very similar in style of government, the oppression. Economically, communist states (not that any have existed yet, at least in the Marxist view) are highly different from fascist states.

Actually, that's quite wrong. True, Marxist Communism, has NO governemnt, because everyone is so equal that governemnt is no longer needed. And as Facism developed, in part, to combat communism, it is difficult to find two more different political systems.
Of course if you are speaking of communism in practice, then yes, communism and facism are rather similar.
CSW
22-05-2005, 23:17
Actually, that's quite wrong. True, Marxist Communism, has NO governemnt, because everyone is so equal that governemnt is no longer needed. And as Facism developed, in part, to combat communism, it is difficult to find two more different political systems.
Of course if you are speaking of communism in practice, then yes, communism and facism are rather similar.
I'm going to go for the route of practiced communism, with the caveat about how marxists claim that no such society has existed in modern times (for long).
Super-power
22-05-2005, 23:18
The site is a joke. This page (http://www.americanfascistparty.com/afp_officers) proves it.
"Minister of Propaganda" - geez, why not just call it MiniTruth?
Tiocfaidh ar la
22-05-2005, 23:19
Yes, Mussolini's henchmen wore black shirts.

I thought fascism had an older history than 1920s/30s Italian origins? (I would looks at the American Fascism website but they seem to be very sparse on the actual historical details)
CSW
22-05-2005, 23:20
"Minister of Propaganda" - geez, why not just call it MiniTruth?
Orwell is so 1980's. Doing things in plain sight is the new black.
Kervoskia
22-05-2005, 23:27
"Minister of Propaganda" - geez, why not just call it MiniTruth?
Well, I'll give them points for being truthful about that. I cannot say the same for a few of our ministries.
Pure Metal
22-05-2005, 23:57
Hello,

I am pleased to announce that the American Fascist Party have a new website up www.americanfascistparty.com

Check it out and discuss with me if you like or dislike what we stand for!
nice site, bad politics.

how did you do the site? built it yourself or what?
Australus
23-05-2005, 00:11
I just wanted to point out that the slogan on the site is "Fascism Forward" but the arrow within a circle right by that logo is pointed backwards, downwards, and periodically spinning out in no particular direction.
Young Warriors
23-05-2005, 00:13
Well since you were saying about having question dodged maybe I can help you out. I am retty much a facsist so ask away.
Roach-Busters
23-05-2005, 00:14
Economically, yes...

But they're both anti-capitalist.
Swimmingpool
23-05-2005, 00:24
I thought fascism had an older history than 1920s/30s Italian origins? (I would looks at the American Fascism website but they seem to be very sparse on the actual historical details)
Fascism does have an older history, and communism has an older history than Marx and red flags, but those are the current colours.
Tiocfaidh ar la
23-05-2005, 00:30
Fascism does have an older history, and communism has an older history than Marx and red flags, but those are the current colours.

So the black colour association derived directly out of Italian Fascism of the 1920s/30s?