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2000-year-old Egyptian battery. Flying Ancients. Egyptians in Australia and America. Romans, Greeks, and even Jews leaving their writings and coins in America. Believe it or not? Believe it:

Source (http://paranormal.about.com/od/ancientanomalies/?terms=ooparts)

There are several dozen links to articles about what I described. I always knew white men weren't first at much. They just take credit. So, if you're bored and want something to enjoy yourself with, you have 70-something articles to look at. :)

I wouldn't trust anything from a site called paranormal.com.

2000-year-old Egyptian battery. Flying Ancients. Egyptians in Australia and America. Romans, Greeks, and even Jews leaving their writings and coins in America. Believe it or not? Believe it:

Source (http://paranormal.about.com/od/ancientanomalies/?terms=ooparts)

There are several dozen links to articles about what I described. I always knew white men weren't first at much. They just take credit. So, if you're bored and want something to enjoy yourself with, you have 70-something articles to look at. :)
The supporting evidence doesn't seem to be very trustworthy, most of the original artifacts having been lost. And the site seems to be one long apologetic for creationism. I wouldn't put much credence in it.

If you like that one of the better books to check out is The Atlantis Engima by Herbie Brennan, he tries to explain why the Ice Age, as it is conventionally taught in schools, never occured, how Atlantis may have had running water and ocean travelling vessels thousands of years before we thought possible, and how they domesticated the horse around 15,000 BCE. Martin Genesis, also by Brennan, deals in large part with his theory that aliens may or may not have aided in the building of such ancient wonders as the pyramids.

The supporting evidence doesn't seem to be very trustworthy, most of the original artifacts having been lost. And the site seems to be one long apologetic for creationism. I wouldn't put much credence in it.

it is? :( I want it to be true just because if it was it'd be ueber amazing.How cool WOULD an Egyptian burial site be in the Grand canyon? Almost illegally.

The supporting evidence doesn't seem to be very trustworthy, most of the original artifacts having been lost. And the site seems to be one long apologetic for creationism. I wouldn't put much credence in it.

I agree. All that 'paranormal' stuff is just the same as Creationism: peusdoscience, charlatanry. :rolleyes:

http://paranormal.about.com/library/graphics/grooved_sphere.jpg
A mysterious sphere found in South Africa. I think we all know what this is, it's some sort of alien cricket ball! :)

http://paranormal.about.com/library/graphics/dropa_stone.jpg
Mysterious stone discs, obviously an ancient frisbee! ;)

The ancient Eygptian battery thing is true. But lets face it - it's pretty damn easy to make a battery. A lemon, a bit of zinc (house nail will do), a bit of copper (a penny is fine) and some wire will give you a 1 volt battery.
Sadly, the Eygptians didn't see past the novelty of the battery to bother thinking about what applications it might have.
This is why slave labour is so terrible - it stymies technological advancement.

I've read a book about these anomalies and I don't believe in any of them. Except the ones I created. ;)

The book also had ridiculous descriptions of the aliens in so-called 'flying saucers', too. I could tell you that the saucers are usually mechanically piloted and pick up information about Earth for my use.




*sees everyone backing away and readying their blasters*

What?




~Czardas, Supreme Ruler of the Universe

I've read a book about these anomalies and I don't believe in any of them. Except the ones I created. ;)

The book also had ridiculous descriptions of the aliens in so-called 'flying saucers', too. I could tell you that the saucers are usually mechanically piloted and pick up information about Earth for my use.

*sees everyone backing away and readying their blasters*

What?

~Czardas, Supreme Ruler of the Universe

If you are behind the flying saucers (which doesn't suprise me at all, somehow ;)), what's the secret of the saucers shape? Is there any quirk in the design that makes them so damn-efficient? Or why? ;)

Flying saucers are powered by the auto-kinetic effect.

Either that, or they pull themselves along parrel lines of longitude.

Flying saucers are powered by the auto-kinetic effect.

Either that, or they pull themselves along parrel lines of longitude.

Auto-kineteic effect? I wonder how that would work? :confused:

I think it is far to simple to reject these anamolies just because 'science says no'. Science does not and cannot explain everything. Beyond the limits of science you need to use imagination!

Actually, read a book called "Technology of the Gods."

It's poorly written, apparently the editor likes the chronic or something, and some of his grand conclusions are leaps, but the evidence is extremely convincing on the point of man having great technology in the past. At the very least it made me believe we are missing parts of our history.

Oh, and the battery did exist 2000 years ago. It was found in Mesopotamia, made out of pottery, but the function was the same.

And it is quite possible that ancients did have some flight ability. It is a theory that the Nazca lines of Peru were designed by balloon. Also, ancient indian manuscripts describe things called "vimanas," a kind of flying vehicle. The intersting thing is that these manuscripts are seperate from the indian legends and stories, they read more like instructions and plans. Even the style of manuscript is distinctly differentiated from the fictional tales and religious tales.

I think it is far to simple to reject these anamolies just because 'science says no'. Science does not and cannot explain everything. Beyond the limits of science you need to use imagination!

It's not about "science says no", it's about if that stuff is a hoax or not. If it's not, then we're talking.

It's not about "science says no", it's about if that stuff is a hoax or not. If it's not, then we're talking.

Why must it be a hoax? Just because it can't happen within the laws of physics doesn't mean it can't happen!

Why must it be a hoax? Just because it can't happen within the laws of physics doesn't mean it can't happen!

I did not say that. I just say it can be a hoax, and that must be verified/falsified in the specific cases.

For better documented sources look up Graham Hancock and his work. The Sign and the Seal, Fingerprints of the Gods and Mystery of the Sphinx.

I did not say that. I just say it can be a hoax, and that must be verified/falsified in the specific cases.

Oh~~~~~don't spoil the fun! Imagination is one of the best gifts from *depending on your belief*!

Oh~~~~~don't spoil the fun! Imagination is one of the best gifts from *depending on your belief*!

That has nothing to do with belief, just scientific work. Last time i checked, archaeology was a serious business, not pseudoscience.

Why must it be a hoax? Just because it can't happen within the laws of physics doesn't mean it can't happen!
Actually, if it can't happen within the laws of physics, then it can't happen. Period.

The ancient Eygptian battery thing is true. But lets face it - it's pretty damn easy to make a battery. A lemon, a bit of zinc (house nail will do), a bit of copper (a penny is fine) and some wire will give you a 1 volt battery.
Sadly, the Eygptians didn't see past the novelty of the battery to bother thinking about what applications it might have.
This is why slave labour is so terrible - it stymies technological advancement.

They made crude lightbulbs.

If you are behind the flying saucers (which doesn't suprise me at all, somehow ;)), what's the secret of the saucers shape? Is there any quirk in the design that makes them so damn-efficient? Or why? ;)Well, how does a 'saucer' work, after all? They are circular and flat. They lift off by rotating at very high speeds. At the same time they are propelled into the air by releasing certain chemicals that often cause people in the vicinity of the saucers to hallucinate. Hence, the reports of 'aliens'. Due to popular fiction saucers are associated with aliens. However, they are especially useful in deep space. The centrifugal force caused by the rapidly spinning saucer creates a simulation of gravity; therefore, one can stand up in them, eat normally, etc. without many of the messy complications of your primitive earthly astronauts. In addition, with a good supply of oxygen and nitrogen, the various occupants of each 'saucer' can survive for long periods of time in space.

If that wasn't too technical for you...

~Czardas, Supreme Ruler of the Universe

I read some book, pretty good, forget what it was called, and it said the batteries may have been used to electroplate things with gold, and make a cutting torch by splitting and reburning water. Actually a pretty clean explanation as to how they created some artifacts and how they cut huge stones with such great accuracy.

I read some book, pretty good, forget what it was called, and it said the batteries may have been used to electroplate things with gold, and make a cutting torch by splitting and reburning water. Actually a pretty clean explanation as to how they created some artifacts and how they cut huge stones with such great accuracy.

"Splitting and reburning water" - !

Fine. Great. In theory, yes, with electricity you can make a hydrogen-powered cutting torch.

Now store hydrogen, given that the limit of your materials science is bronze and basic ceramics. Make an apparatus to deliver the hydrogen.

Hah. Ahaha. Ha. Hm.

*leaves*

Well, it is very possible that intercontinental oceanic travel was possible LONG before conventional thought.

Take for instance tobbaco, which is native ONLY to the Americas. Egyptian mummies have been found with tobacco resin in their lungs from thousands of years before tobacco was(according to most historians) introduced to the East continents from the Americas. This surely indicates that A)Tobacco grew in Egypt, which we know is not true, or B)Egypt had contact with the Americas LONG before Europe was even considering the notion of sailing around the world.

Also, an ancient city in South America(I want to say peru, but I'm not sure which country) has been found with a "Wall of faces" so to speak, depicting face carvings of people bearing an uncanny resemblance to many of the races across the world, from the large-nose short haired dark skinned peoples of Africa(Note-I'm talking almost 8000 years ago), to the light toned long haired people of Europe. Astronomical dating dates at as far back as ten thousand years. If these people actually did depict the different people of the world, that would mean that Oceanic travel came along almost 9 thousand years before what is conventionally thought.

Not only this, but the city is perfectly constructed from perfectly carved several ton stones. These stones fit so perfectly together that a playing card cannot even slip through the joints. Going even further, we have found silver joints holding these blocks together. This technique was used in China, however it was not until much, much later. The city itself is based upon complex geometric and Astronomic calculations. This city, even if it is younger than predicted, is still far ahead of it's time. And here's the thing: We don't have a clue who built it.

Yes, I believe that intercontinental travel has been part of us for thousands of years. There was a study done on if people could (using only local materials) travel across the Pacific from South America to Australia. They built a raft from local materials, hand crafted the boat and actually made it to Samoa without a compass because of the seasonal sea currents, which made them closer to Australia than South America. It does offer an explanation as to why Australian Aborigionals are so diffrent in appearence to Asians. Aborigionals look like black people from Africa with flat noses like some Asians, but with curly blonde hair like some South Americans. What's more if boat people can travel from the middle east to Australia now without technology on boats then I don't see why they couldn't do it before.

2000-year-old Egyptian battery. Flying Ancients. Egyptians in Australia and America. Romans, Greeks, and even Jews leaving their writings and coins in America. Believe it or not? Believe it:

Source (http://paranormal.about.com/od/ancientanomalies/?terms=ooparts)

There are several dozen links to articles about what I described. I always knew white men weren't first at much. They just take credit. So, if you're bored and want something to enjoy yourself with, you have 70-something articles to look at. :)

Flying ancients... riiight.
The battery unearthed in bagdad is true thoug
Egyptians in america: Innacurate. Comerce via fenicians between america and egypt likely. (trade existed. traces of cocaine were found in egyptian mummies. Cocaine is extracted from a plant that only grows in the andine region)
The jew thingy- hoax

But in the end all history is naught but guesswork.

]In theory, yes, with electricity you can make a hydrogen-powered cutting torch.Its not just in theory, hydrogen torches, while unpopular and not as useful as other gas torches, were used at some point.

Now store hydrogen, given that the limit of your materials science is bronze and basic ceramics. Make an apparatus to deliver the hydrogen. If I had to try building one myself, even though it would be incredibly crude, a ceramic pot could be sealed up with wax and the gas could be pumped by bellows or a blowpipe, an intestinal tract of an animal might be used as a hose and the end tool would be a bronze, clay, or lead pipe. Then again it would also be theoretically possible to use another fuel like alcohol or oil.

http://www.welding.com/history_of_welding.shtml says they had some form of welding definitly and its not impossible they had other types that were lost. And I'd like to know how you think they cut them....

Ahhh! In Teauanaco (bolivia) they found a metalic alloy that needed temperatures that were not 'oficialy' reached until the XIX century... and this is prehispanic metalurgy. The ancients were not as crude as we would have them.

I read some book, pretty good, forget what it was called, and it said the batteries may have been used to electroplate things with gold, and make a cutting torch by splitting and reburning water. Actually a pretty clean explanation as to how they created some artifacts and how they cut huge stones with such great accuracy.

Look at the Egyptian pyramids.

Those huge stones are made of limestone. All you really need are moisture and a pick. The thing splits cleanly, right down the middle, like a bagel.

Moving them, by the way, is real easy, too. Water the earth and they slide like ice-cubes. It took about ten guys to push one up a ramp to the top of a pyramid.

There is WAY too many people who believe humans didn't build the pyramids. They've found diaries and graffitti (not just heiroglyphs, but things that read "Ahkmed wuz here") that explained exactly how it was done and how they thought of doing it. Pretty easy. No "electric cutting torch" necessary.