Why would anybody want to learn German?
Cabra West
22-05-2005, 14:35
Being a native speaker, this has always fascinated me... other people actually wanting to learn a language like German.
I learned English, French and Latin at school, and though I did have a hard time sometimes, I was always acutely aware that none of these languages were anywhere near as complex as German, there always were a few grammmatical exceptions, but not nearly as many, only Latin had three genders, and they were visible when looking at the actual word in most cases....
So, why would you want to learn German? Or if you already have learned it, why did you do that?
Ich wollte erlernen, dab Deutscher, weil ich dachte, es eine faszinierende erfahrung sein wurde. Wie Sie sehen konnen, bin ich an ihr zwar schlecht.
Incoherencia
22-05-2005, 14:39
Because German is the sexiest language ever?
I'm a native Finnish spreaker and I've heard from many foreigners that it is a difficult language to learn, as well.
I studied German in university. My family came to the states from Prussia and I was just interested in it. I like the sound, much better than French or Spanish or Italian for that matter. But, the study was long ago and far away and now I study Japanese.
Haken Rider
22-05-2005, 14:44
Because we fought so well in WW1 (or because we got are arses so badly kicked) we got a bit of Germany after the war and now German is the third official language in my country. Its pretty similair to Dutch, so I don't have such a hard time.
Robot ninja pirates
22-05-2005, 14:49
I'm not sure what you're talking about. English is considered one of the hardest languages to learn. The fundamentals are simple, anyone can get around with it, but the more advanced version of English is terrible. It has strong influence from German and French, as well as many languages to a lesser degree, meaning there are 4 ways to say everything. The grammer is a mix of a half dozen systems, and makes no god-damned sense. I take Italian in school, and have always found Italian grammer infinitely easier than English grammer, even though English is my first language. Anybody I've ever met who learned English said it was difficult.
That being said, my mom learned German when she was getting her masters degree, and said it was very simple. Like English, but only in the simple ways. Lots of Cognates, also. Not nearly as many exceptions as English (if you think there aren't that many exceptions in English, then you haven't looked that far into the language, there is not a single grammatical rule broken at least once. Often the exceptions have exceptions).
Red East
22-05-2005, 14:49
It was either french, german or spanish for me. As simple as that. And I figured, swedish is similar to german so it can't be that hard. Could I had been more wrong? :p
Makatoto
22-05-2005, 14:50
Because I found it far easier than French, to be honest. Being from Northern England, we have an easy time with the pronounciations, the spelling is a doddle (it's spelt like it sounds!) and the structure is logical. Yes, having umpteen words for the and a is annoying, but it's a small price to pay.
If I was wanting to be a smart ass, i'd put something complex in German here. but I won't. So ner. :p
QuentinTarantino
22-05-2005, 14:50
The educational system made me take German
It lets you spit at people under the guise of polite conversation.
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wait, maybe I'm thinking of Welsh. 'tever.
It lets you spit at people under the guise of polite conversation.
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wait, maybe I'm thinking of Welsh. 'tever.
Or maybe Russian. We are confused today, arent we, hmm? :p
It lets you spit at people under the guise of polite conversation.
...
wait, maybe I'm thinking of Welsh. 'tever.
What about Turkish?
What about Turkish?
Mongolian?
Cabra West
22-05-2005, 15:13
I'm not sure what you're talking about. English is considered one of the hardest languages to learn. The fundamentals are simple, anyone can get around with it, but the more advanced version of English is terrible. It has strong influence from German and French, as well as many languages to a lesser degree, meaning there are 4 ways to say everything. The grammer is a mix of a half dozen systems, and makes no god-damned sense. I take Italian in school, and have always found Italian grammer infinitely easier than English grammer, even though English is my first language. Anybody I've ever met who learned English said it was difficult.
That being said, my mom learned German when she was getting her masters degree, and said it was very simple. Like English, but only in the simple ways. Lots of Cognates, also. Not nearly as many exceptions as English (if you think there aren't that many exceptions in English, then you haven't looked that far into the language, there is not a single grammatical rule broken at least once. Often the exceptions have exceptions).
The Italian grammar is very easy, similar to the French. Both languages are based on Latin, and they are closely related. Both languages are very regular, the pronounciation can be seen from the way words are written (which is about the only thing that makes English difficult, really, the way you can never tell how something is spelled or pronounced) and you don't have to consider to many changes to adjectives, for example.
The adjectives and their endings depending on the case of the subject f the sentence is something we were having hours of discussion on even in university, when people are expected to know their grammar. Turned out, even the prof didn't know in some cases and had to go and look it up.
I've been learning English since I was ten years old, which makes it 20 years now, and I've been living in English-speaking coutries gor the last 5 years. I tend to find it easier to say things in English than in German, myself...
Perkeleenmaa
22-05-2005, 15:18
I'm not sure what you're talking about. English is considered one of the hardest languages to learn. The fundamentals are simple, anyone can get around with it, but the more advanced version of English is terrible. It has strong influence from German and French, as well as many languages to a lesser degree, meaning there are 4 ways to say everything. The grammer is a mix of a half dozen systems, and makes no god-damned sense. I take Italian in school, and have always found Italian grammer infinitely easier than English grammer, even though English is my first language. Anybody I've ever met who learned English said it was difficult.
What does this have to do with German?
Besides, I disagree strongly. English is very easy to learn.
Aligned Planets
22-05-2005, 15:23
Cabra - I also learnt English, French and Latin at school, and had no desire to take German as an option.
Sounds cool, and it's quite like English.
Ashmoria
22-05-2005, 16:04
my friend learnd it because she was studying the classics and many important works on the subject were written in german
my son learned it because in the crappy highschool in this town that was the language that had its first year when he was a freshman. to take french he would have had to wait a year.
Kung Fu Rabbits
22-05-2005, 16:06
I chose German because it was easy. Still is.
Diamond Realms
22-05-2005, 16:20
The educational system made me take German
Same here. But because it was forced upon me, I've not had motivation to learn much of it. The little I know now, I'll probably forget soon, after I'm finally finished with it, next month.
Katganistan
22-05-2005, 16:40
Perhaps people wish to communicate with German speakers in their native language as a matter of respect?
In the sciences, at least at one point, knowing German was as important as knowing Latin.
In the US, high school students must choose to study another language; why not German?
In my college, as part of my major study area, I had to choose a year's worth of study in a language; as an English major with years of Italian already behind me, it made sense to study French. Perhaps if one's chosen area were, say, Anglo-Saxon ballads, German would be more useful.
Perhaps people -- OMG -- simply admire Germans? ;)
Kellarly
22-05-2005, 16:41
I learn German because I have many friends here, i've been on numerous school exchanges and i'm studying it at uni as part of my degree.
I like it because it has some similarities to english, which makes it easier. Plus i have been speaking it since i was a kid.
The Grammar is a right b*****d though. I've been learning it for nearly a decade and i still can't get my head round it. Because I learnt the cast majority of the german i know in spoken form, i can listen and speak with little or no difficulty, but my writing is appaling. oh well, i barely write much anyways :D
Plus i like living here, i'm lucky enough to be working here for a year as part of my uni course and the place is great. Sure there are some things that bug me, like the archaic shop opening times.
The history is also interesting to me as well, either the Napoleonics (another part of my uni course) or mid to late medieval history.
Still i regard it as my second country almost, considering after adding up how long i have spent in germany it equates to about 3 years of my life.
Plus, its a bit arrogant to speak to someone in their own country in your own language. Its always good to make an effort. :D
QuentinTarantino
22-05-2005, 16:44
Same here. But because it was forced upon me, I've not had motivation to learn much of it. The little I know now, I'll probably forget soon, after I'm finally finished with it, next month.
I've finished and forgotten almost every word of it
Pepe Dominguez
22-05-2005, 16:52
I took German in college because the alternatives were Japanese, French, and Spanish. I'm already familiar with Spanish, and loathe French, so German was the natural choice. Asian languages have never really appealed to me, beside Tagalog, which isn't a "symbol" language (they use the latin alphabet and have massive Spanish influence).
Swimmingpool
22-05-2005, 16:53
So, why would you want to learn German? Or if you already have learned it, why did you do that?
Well, German has more native speakers than any other language in Western Europe.
still a bastard to learn though
Swimmingpool
22-05-2005, 16:55
I took German in college because the alternatives were Japanese, French, and Spanish. I'm already familiar with Spanish, and loathe French, so German was the natural choice.
For political reasons? ;)
If you knew Spanish, French would have been quite easy. German was a good choice though if you're spending time in Europe.
ChuChullainn
22-05-2005, 16:58
I'm asking myself the same question at the moment. I have to write two essays on Andorra and Jugend ohne Gott in an exam on tuesday and nationstates is killing any hope of revision. O well so ist das Leben
Kellarly
22-05-2005, 17:00
German was a good choice though if you're spending time in Europe.
Yup, it means if some git cuts me up when i'm skiing in austria i can tell him/her exactly what i think of them :D
Pepe Dominguez
22-05-2005, 17:04
For political reasons? ;)
If you knew Spanish, French would have been quite easy. German was a good choice though if you're spending time in Europe.
Nah, nothing political. The Germans are as big a bunch of commies as the French, so it's not that. It's just a gut feeling against it, the sound and spelling don't work for me. German is pretty straightforward, as is Spanish. Tagalog is probably one of my favorites, though I'm a slow learner.
Swimmingpool
22-05-2005, 17:05
Besides, I disagree strongly. English is very easy to learn.
oh, let's not even get started on Finnish!
Gorsley Gardens
22-05-2005, 17:11
I took German for two years and hated every second. For one thing I was doing French and Welsh too and one day I had Welsh first, German second, French third. God, that confused me so much...
German was utterly awful; I sat in the corner for the first year next to Sam and Sam, and the teacher had yet to learn my name, so would look at me and say 'Sam?' and then one of the Sams would reply 'Which one?' and then we'd all look blankly at each other while he tried to remember who we were, and then he couldn't, of course, so he'd look away and ask someone else really quickly.
In the second year it was bad because he learnt my name, which meant he could ask me questions. I found a good way to get out of this was to look miserable all the time and cry whenever he said anything. In the end, I got bored of crying all the time, so I had to move my seat to confuse him. He marked me as absent every lesson 'cause he couldn't see me sitting at the front with Joey, copying the answers from the boys behind us and arguing about the colour of the pencil stuck inside the overhead projector.
Yeah. That made me want to learn German. :rolleyes:
Cabra West
22-05-2005, 17:43
I took German for two years and hated every second. For one thing I was doing French and Welsh too and one day I had Welsh first, German second, French third. God, that confused me so much...
German was utterly awful; I sat in the corner for the first year next to Sam and Sam, and the teacher had yet to learn my name, so would look at me and say 'Sam?' and then one of the Sams would reply 'Which one?' and then we'd all look blankly at each other while he tried to remember who we were, and then he couldn't, of course, so he'd look away and ask someone else really quickly.
In the second year it was bad because he learnt my name, which meant he could ask me questions. I found a good way to get out of this was to look miserable all the time and cry whenever he said anything. In the end, I got bored of crying all the time, so I had to move my seat to confuse him. He marked me as absent every lesson 'cause he couldn't see me sitting at the front with Joey, copying the answers from the boys behind us and arguing about the colour of the pencil stuck inside the overhead projector.
Yeah. That made me want to learn German. :rolleyes:
That sounds an awful lot like me learning Latin... :D
Desperate Measures
22-05-2005, 19:26
I am a Jelly Donut.
Ulrichland
22-05-2005, 19:28
I'm not sure what you're talking about. English is considered one of the hardest languages to learn.
Are you nuts? Learning English was a piece of cake. Really! I had a far more harder time learning Spanish.
And don't get me even started on Latin!
I took german for gcse cos I was put off french when I was forced to study it in primary school, and spanish is much the same. I don't think german grammar is that hard, and as someone said before, english is probably a lot harder, cos our grammar is pathetic.
Guitar Muzic
22-05-2005, 20:32
I speak English only (my Spanish class wasn't that good and although I know a bit it's not nearly enough to say that I speak it)
I HATE English. Too many stupid exceptions... If I had my way English would be banned. (that would, however, put me in quite a spot as it's the only thing I speak...) I seriously thought about creating a new language to replace English. My brain is too math oriented to like English.... (and don't get me started on spelling.........)
Anyway... I don't know a thing about German... but really it's couldn't be worse than English, right???
Robbopolis
22-05-2005, 20:39
I love the English language and all of its ambiguities. Most of humor comes from that.
That said, I took German both in high school and in college. Originally, I wanted to learn a foreign language, and I thought that German would be easy because English is a Germanic language. Once I got into college I realized that it could come in handy because so much philosophy (my major) is written in German.
So, why would you want to learn German?
How else would you get satisfaction when you go back in time to insult Hitler? I mean, you can curse at him all you want, but he'll just sit there with a puzzled expression on his face. You want him to know he's being called a sadistic, bigoted, homophobic, niece-p***ing w****r; otherwise it just takes the fun out of it.
<_<;
Seriously, though, you learn languages to make their natural speakers feel more comfortable around you. Putting aside the fact that many Germans can at least speak enough English to get by, I'd far rather learn their language than force them to learn mine when we're trying to communicate. It's just courtesy.
Everything I know about German comes from Neon Genesis Evangelion and the Indiana Jones trilogy. I learned a bunch of swear words from Asuka.
Cabra West
22-05-2005, 21:03
Everything I know about German comes from Neon Genesis Evangelion and the Indiana Jones trilogy. I learned a bunch of swear words from Asuka.
I don't know about Neon Genesis Evangelion, but I remember vividly the first time I saw Indiana Jones - The last crusade in the original language. It was confusing, as neither me nor any of my friends could understand a word those "Germans" said... it took us a while to realise that they were supposed to speak German. And we were all Germans ourselves.
Incoherencia
22-05-2005, 21:32
oh, let's not even get started on Finnish!Already have: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=8926100&postcount=3
Franziskonia
22-05-2005, 22:30
Neon Genesis Evangelion had the most ridiculous "German" ever. Generally, in at least 99% of cases the "German" is horribly wrong.
I can remember a really funny "Die Zwei" (Moore/Curtis) episode where they were at the German/German border... *lol*
Lord-General Drache
23-05-2005, 00:35
Being a native speaker, this has always fascinated me... other people actually wanting to learn a language like German.
I learned English, French and Latin at school, and though I did have a hard time sometimes, I was always acutely aware that none of these languages were anywhere near as complex as German, there always were a few grammmatical exceptions, but not nearly as many, only Latin had three genders, and they were visible when looking at the actual word in most cases....
So, why would you want to learn German? Or if you already have learned it, why did you do that?
Ich habe Deustch seid 3 Jahren gelernt. Es kann schwer sein, aber ich liebe es. Es ist ein schon Sprache, und meine mutter hat Deustch im Schule gelernt. Sie spricht es nicht oft, und hat es am meisten vergasst, aber es ist schon nett, dass ich mit meine mutter, oder ein anderer persone eine anderer Sprache sprechen. Deustch hort mir sehr schoen aus. Ich hasse Spanzosich und ich hab' Franzosich vergasst, so, warum nicht Deustch? Die Deustchen sind mir sehr nett, und hat ein sehr interessant Kulture.
I apologize for any gramatical mistakes I've made. Feel free to correct me.
Shadowstorm Imperium
23-05-2005, 00:40
Because German is the sexiest language ever?
It is?
I'm a native Finnish spreaker and I've heard from many foreigners that it is a difficult language to learn, as well.
I haven't tried learning it, but I've heard it's possibly the most difficult language there is.
Randomea
23-05-2005, 00:43
I'd done French since I was 5 so I was going to do that anyway and Latin was a free GCSE, but 3rd year we had to choose Spanish or German. The Spanish class was really big, whereas there was...7 of us doing German and that went down to 5. Frankly it had the rep that the smart kids did German, but whatever. At GCSE it was a choice between carrying on German or Art and German won through.
On the difficult language note...I'm trying to learn Finnish. :headbang:
Neon Genesis Evangelion had the most ridiculous "German" ever. Generally, in at least 99% of cases the "German" is horribly wrong.
You're attacking a theological and philosophical masterpiece. If my religion considered Eva to be a holy text, and it probably will, that would be blasphemy.
Bunnyducks
23-05-2005, 01:35
On the difficult language note...I'm trying to learn Finnish. :headbang: Why would you do something like that? ...if you don't mind me asking...
Naturality
23-05-2005, 01:37
Being a native speaker, this has always fascinated me... other people actually wanting to learn a language like German.
-snip-
I'd like to to understand, speak and write many languages. Whether I ever will, that I don't know. I've heard Cantonese is a complex language. Not sure if it's more complex than German since I've never heard German was very complex. I'm sure that different people learn different languages at different speeds and with different ease.
I made a rhyme :p
[NS]Ein Deutscher
23-05-2005, 13:42
Ich habe Deustch seid 3 Jahren gelernt. Es kann schwer sein, aber ich liebe es. Es ist ein schon Sprache, und meine mutter hat Deustch im Schule gelernt. Sie spricht es nicht oft, und hat es am meisten vergasst, aber es ist schon nett, dass ich mit meine mutter, oder ein anderer persone eine anderer Sprache sprechen. Deustch hort mir sehr schoen aus. Ich hasse Spanzosich und ich hab' Franzosich vergasst, so, warum nicht Deustch? Die Deustchen sind mir sehr nett, und hat ein sehr interessant Kulture.
I apologize for any gramatical mistakes I've made. Feel free to correct me.
Ich lerne Deutsch seit 3 Jahren. Es kann schwer sein, aber ich liebe es. Es ist eine schöne Sprache und meine Mutter hat Deutsch in der Schule gelernt. Sie spricht es nicht oft und hat das meiste vergessen, aber es ist schon nett, daß ich mit meiner Mutter oder einer anderen Person, eine andere Sprache sprechen kann. Deutsch hört sich sehr schön an. Ich hasse Spanisch und ich habe Französisch vergessen, also warum nicht Deutsch? Die Deutschen sind sehr nett und haben eine interessante Kultur.
Corrected version of your "German" text ;) Good job though. You did not make too many mistakes. :p
[NS]Ein Deutscher
23-05-2005, 13:44
It is?
Yub yub. It is. :D
Rammsteinburg
23-05-2005, 13:53
Personally, I find German a beautiful sounding language. The only big problem I'd see a native English speaker having with learning German is the grammar. Because German and English are very similar, since they have similar roots, learning the words isn't too hard. I am trying to learn German and memorizing vocabulary has been pretty simple for me. The grammar will defineately take me a long time to completely figure out.
Once I get done learning German, I think I'll go for Polish! :)
The Alma Mater
23-05-2005, 14:16
It is?
Historically German was the language of love, yes - while French and Latin were the languages of science. German is rich with poems and lyrics to music. Later on science was added, and the nazi's more or less destroyed the love image. This still gives plenty of reasons to learn it though.
I haven't tried learning it, but I've heard it's possibly the most difficult language there is.
Not true. Most slavic languages are more complex by several orders of magnitude. It is hard to get started in languages like German and Finnish, due to the grammar, but once you got that down it gets relatively easy. English on the other hand for instance is quite easy to start in, but hard to perfect due to the many exceptions and silly grammar. And of course the fact that most countries get much more tvshows and movies in English than in German/Finnish makes English easier to pick up.
How do you take over the world without learning German??
Wir brauchen mir Lebensraum, ja?
Kellarly
23-05-2005, 14:25
How do you take over the world without learning German??
Wir brauchen mir Lebensraum, ja?
:rolleyes:
I believe you were trying to say
"Wir brauchen mehr Lebensraum, ja?"
but I might just leave you to take over the world with supremely dodgy german... :p
Sonho Real
23-05-2005, 17:19
Being a native speaker, this has always fascinated me... other people actually wanting to learn a language like German.
I learned English, French and Latin at school, and though I did have a hard time sometimes, I was always acutely aware that none of these languages were anywhere near as complex as German, there always were a few grammmatical exceptions, but not nearly as many, only Latin had three genders, and they were visible when looking at the actual word in most cases....
So, why would you want to learn German? Or if you already have learned it, why did you do that?
Once you've learned the grammer rules, German is generally a very logical language. Plus, they said I had to do German or French, and me and French never did get on very well. German is also fairly widely spoken (although not so widely as some others).
Whispering Legs
23-05-2005, 17:32
If you're traveling to Germany, and you plan on living there a while, it's a good idea to know how to speak, read, and write German.
Why be afraid to pick up another language?
Drunk commies reborn
23-05-2005, 17:39
German was the only non-latin based language taught in my highschool. I wanted to learn a new language that was different from Italian, so I chose German. It was a great class. There were few students, we got to know each other well, and the teacher was cool.
Frangland
23-05-2005, 17:43
Ich liebe dich!
Ich bin ein koenig!
Bist du bei mir!
Wie gehets ertsahlen?! (no idea how to spell the last two words)
Danke!
Bitte!
Ich liebe bier!
Das ist gut!
Lord-General Drache
23-05-2005, 20:26
Ein Deutscher']Ich lerne Deutsch seit 3 Jahren. Es kann schwer sein, aber ich liebe es. Es ist eine schöne Sprache und meine Mutter hat Deutsch in der Schule gelernt. Sie spricht es nicht oft und hat das meiste vergessen, aber es ist schon nett, daß ich mit meiner Mutter oder einer anderen Person, eine andere Sprache sprechen kann. Deutsch hört sich sehr schön an. Ich hasse Spanisch und ich habe Französisch vergessen, also warum nicht Deutsch? Die Deutschen sind sehr nett und haben eine interessante Kultur.
Corrected version of your "German" text ;) Good job though. You did not make too many mistakes. :p
Ahh..danke schon! Ich spreche Deustch besser als ich schreibe es..lol.
Bastard-Squad
23-05-2005, 20:29
German is sooo cool!
Didn't you ever watch war movies when German soldiers were executing an operation? They just sound SO COOL.
Bottom line, I think German is one of the coolest langauges on the face of the planet. German people are also cool. Thats were Goths come from! And the Nazi uniforms were also coolness.
Intangelon
23-05-2005, 21:18
The "Goths" came from the Indo-European stock once living in the Russian Steppes, but that's another thread.
I took three years of German in high school because half to a majority of my family is German. Full-on German/Dutch (Franke, Wurzel and Van Voorhees) on mother's side, and Prussian (Von Montekopfske) on my father's side. I figured it'd be a nice tribute to my ancestors to learn their language.
In addition, German came in very handy as I progressed through both of my music degrees. Much of my favorite choral/vocal music is in German (Bach, Mozart, Wolf, R. Strauss, Schutz, Schubert, Brahms, etc.). It was very helpful to be able to coach my section as section leader in both the actual music and the text.
Finally, I am an amateur etymologist and lover of the English language, and German/Germanic languages are important precursors to modern English.
On top of all of that, I'm a lover of German wine, beer and food. I expect it gallops in my family, so to speak.
So that's why.
people want to learn because they know it is superior. The language of the fatherland is the holy language. It is a language of power.
The South Empire
24-05-2005, 05:41
i'm currently learning german in school. i chose german over french or spanish because i have some german ancestry, and i like heavy metal and had heard a couple things by rammstein. plus, it just seemed like more fun.
I predict that in 50-years time the whole world will be speaking Swedish. It's part of a mass conspiracy, we're building Ikea shops everywhere - you think it's to provide you with furniture at good prices - but actually it's part of a much darker plan for world domination!
Kellarly
24-05-2005, 12:25
people want to learn because they know it is superior. The language of the fatherland is the holy language. It is a language of power.
Any language that has 3 words for 'a' and 3 words for 'the' can never EVER claim to be superior caus they ARE a major pain in the backside to learn. And don't even get me started on the logic in which der, die and das are associated with words.
Hell i still like the language, but shove that superior crap where it hurts the most.
Helioterra
24-05-2005, 12:34
Any language that has 3 words for 'a' and 3 words for 'the' can never EVER claim to be superior caus they ARE a major pain in the backside to learn. And don't even get me started on the logic in which der, die and das are associated with words.
Hell i still like the language, but shove that superior crap where it hurts the most.
And that's why Finnish will be the superior language! No 'as', no 'thes', no prepositions! Only 15 postpositions...
Kellarly
24-05-2005, 12:35
And that's why Finnish will be the superior language! No 'as', no 'thes', no prepositions! Only 15 postpositions...
:eek: Now that I did not know...
Don't suppose you're available for private tuition? :D
Helioterra
24-05-2005, 12:36
:eek: Now that I did not know...
Don't suppose you're available for private tuition? :D
If the price is right ;)
Cabra West
24-05-2005, 12:39
The "Goths" came from the Indo-European stock once living in the Russian Steppes, but that's another thread.
I don't think he was talking about the historic Goths, rather the current version ;)
Kellarly
24-05-2005, 12:40
If the price is right ;)
*Looks in wallet*
Er....
I'll just go find a cash machine :D
Helioterra
24-05-2005, 12:59
*Looks in wallet*
Er....
I'll just go find a cash machine :D
I'm sure you got enough...
It's such a nice weather that I'll go and wait for you in a park. See you there..
Markreich
24-05-2005, 13:05
Being a native speaker, this has always fascinated me... other people actually wanting to learn a language like German.
I learned English, French and Latin at school, and though I did have a hard time sometimes, I was always acutely aware that none of these languages were anywhere near as complex as German, there always were a few grammmatical exceptions, but not nearly as many, only Latin had three genders, and they were visible when looking at the actual word in most cases....
So, why would you want to learn German? Or if you already have learned it, why did you do that?
It's the only other language that's really useful to know when in Europe, besides English.
(I also speak Polish & Slovak, but they're not very useful outside of Poland & Slovakia (okay, Czech Rep. too)).
Kellarly
24-05-2005, 13:13
I'm sure you got enough...
It's such a nice weather that I'll go and wait for you in a park. See you there..
:eek:
See you there then
*Ponders as to which park, in which country and how exactly he is going to get there* :(
Grave_n_idle
24-05-2005, 13:37
I'd like to learn German, because a lot of the music I listen to is in German... e.g. Rammstein, Einsturzende Neubauten, Lacrimosa, KMFDM.
Also, I'd like to watch Run Lola Run (Lola rennt), without the subtitles - which some of my German-speaking friends have told me are ruining it for me.
Intangelon
24-05-2005, 17:59
I don't think he was talking about the historic Goths, rather the current version ;)
Ah, I see.
He must have meant those whiny, black-clad, makeup-wearing assholes who listen to rotten music and claim to be "emabracing darkness and pain." Right. A real Goth would crush these supercilious twits into putty in seconds. I think these pasty purveyors of unenlightened nihilism need to pick a different name.
Grave_n_idle
25-05-2005, 00:29
Ah, I see.
He must have meant those whiny, black-clad, makeup-wearing assholes who listen to rotten music and claim to be "emabracing darkness and pain." Right. A real Goth would crush these supercilious twits into putty in seconds. I think these pasty purveyors of unenlightened nihilism need to pick a different name.
A rational assesment of 'goth' culture... obviously.
I think, my friend, that you are confused.... the 'goth' movement is not based on Germanic barbarians, but on the Gothic literature movement.
Sounds to me like someone got turned down by a hot goth....
Slovenchya
25-05-2005, 00:34
My ancestors fought for both Germany and Austria and I am finding German easy to learn. To know this is the language the men who fought for great emperors used. It inspires me.
German Nightmare
25-05-2005, 00:42
It was either french, german or spanish for me. As simple as that. And I figured, swedish is similar to german so it can't be that hard. Could I had been more wrong? :p
Hey, I really hope you're doing better than me in Swedish - all I can come up with is "Jag pratar inte svenska" and the standard sentence "Jag elskar deg"
German Nightmare
25-05-2005, 00:43
Because German is the sexiest language ever?
Wow! That is the first time ever I have heard anybody say that. Pretty cool of you!
Bunnyducks
25-05-2005, 00:47
Wow! That is the first time ever I have heard anybody say that. Pretty cool of you!
The first time!? German is the international language of porn. That's basically why I opted it as my 3rd foreign language.
German Nightmare
25-05-2005, 00:57
... I apologize for any gramatical mistakes I've made. Feel free to correct me.
Don't apologize - you've done a good job! You brought your point across (and the few minor mistakes are really... minor.)
Es freut mich sehr, daß sich einige von Euch die Mühe machen, meine Muttersprache zu lernen. Weiterhin viel Erfolg und Spaß dabei!
(For those who don't speak any German: I just stated that I'm happy that some of you take the effort to learn my mother tongue. Good speed and enjoy!)
German Nightmare
25-05-2005, 01:03
German is sooo cool!
Didn't you ever watch war movies when German soldiers were executing an operation? They just sound SO COOL.
Bottom line, I think German is one of the coolest langauges on the face of the planet. German people are also cool. Thats were Goths come from! And the Nazi uniforms were also coolness.
Well thank you. And yes, I myself get a good chuckle out of well-made war movies. (I didn't realize the Nazis in Last Crusade were talking "German" either!)
When it comes to the uniforms, you definitely strike a point... With all the historical mess set aside, if you compare the uniforms of that era they really had the best looking design of them all! (Guess that's why Lucas used "German" uniforms with "Japanese" caps to portray Imperial troops, huh?)
German Nightmare
25-05-2005, 01:05
I predict that in 50-years time the whole world will be speaking Swedish. It's part of a mass conspiracy, we're building Ikea shops everywhere - you think it's to provide you with furniture at good prices - but actually it's part of a much darker plan for world domination!
Uh oh... and I'm supporting that if I look around my shed.