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Yanks, Limeys and Frogs

31
22-05-2005, 00:59
Yanks, Limeys, Frogs, Krauts, etc. etc. Do any of you really get offended if someone uses these terms?

As for myself, not at all. If someone refers to me as a Yank I can't say it means much of anything to me. All of these just seem a joking way to refer to people. Then again, I only have read Yanks in posts. The other three I haven't really seen used, does anybody use any of these?
Potaria
22-05-2005, 01:03
I see Yank and Limey as proper terms, because they actually mean something... Yank pertaining to "Yankee", as in "American", while Limey is to British sailors (dunno how it started being used to describe everyday British people).

"Kraut" and "Frog", however, were started as insults. To the best of my knowledge, at least.
Pure Metal
22-05-2005, 01:05
not those, but i don't particularly like it when somebody calls a welsh person "sheepfucker" :rolleyes:

unless they're welsh themselves or i know they're j/k of course
Wiztopia
22-05-2005, 01:06
Which people are referred to as Frogs? I never heard that one before.
Potaria
22-05-2005, 01:06
not those, but i don't particularly like it when somebody calls a welsh person "sheepfucker" :rolleyes:

Whoa, I've never heard that one before! That's a zinger if there ever was one.
Potaria
22-05-2005, 01:07
Which people are referred to as Frogs? I never heard that one before.

The French.
Funky Beat
22-05-2005, 01:07
Which people are referred to as Frogs? I never heard that one before.

French. What about Spaniards, how are they insulted?
Funky Beat
22-05-2005, 01:09
not those, but i don't particularly like it when somebody calls a welsh person "sheepfucker" :rolleyes:

And here was me thinking that that insult was reserved strictly for New Zealanders *shame*.

Yay! Pathetic post milestone! (well, now 301)
Ashmoria
22-05-2005, 01:10
yank doesnt bother me, its what i am
Syniks
22-05-2005, 01:15
Yanks, Limeys, Frogs, Krauts, etc. etc. Do any of you really get offended if someone uses these terms?
Nope. I have had the occasion to call myself a Yank, and I've never met a Limey who cared if he was called one (Bloody Royalist OTOH...)

IMO Kraut is no longer used (by Yanks) because the Germans are neither haughty, stuffy, stuck-up or a major PITA. (i.e we're not fighting them and they don't insult us at every opportunity) ditto for Chink, Gook, Slope, Jap, Wop, Red or Ruskie.

As for the Frogs, they deserve it ;) .
The Mindset
22-05-2005, 01:16
French. What about Spaniards, how are they insulted?

You don't insult Spaniards if you want to live.
Syniks
22-05-2005, 01:17
French. What about Spaniards, how are they insulted?"Dago" (long A, long O) don't know why.
L-rouge
22-05-2005, 01:17
French. What about Spaniards, how are they insulted?
Dago -- comes from Diego (a common name among those of Spanish descent).

I've a friend at Uni who always used these terms for anyone from, as she put it, "bloody foreign places!"
Pure Metal
22-05-2005, 01:21
Whoa, I've never heard that one before! That's a zinger if there ever was one.
hehe yeah... its the north Welsh people who do it (apparently). good place for sheep grazing, not so great for much else... they get lonely..... you get the picture;)

guess its the same in NZ too then :p
Super-power
22-05-2005, 01:23
I take Yank as a compliment, actually....
Potaria
22-05-2005, 01:23
hehe yeah... its the north Welsh people who do it (apparently). good place for sheep grazing, not so great for much else... they get lonely..... you get the picture;)

guess its the same in NZ too then :p

Oh man. I know what I can call people in Arkansas!

*Note: It has something to do with pigs.
Pure Metal
22-05-2005, 01:24
Oh man. I know what I can call people in Arkansas!

*Note: It has something to do with pigs.
lmao :D
Potaria
22-05-2005, 01:27
lmao :D

Oh, substituting chickens for pigs would work, too. I'm sure they do them as often...
Myrmidonisia
22-05-2005, 01:28
Oh man. I know what I can call people in Arkansas!

*Note: It has something to do with pigs.
What's so clever about Razorback?

Half the U.S. is made up of Yankees. We don't mind that much.
Nidimor
22-05-2005, 01:34
It depends. Usually when someone uses a term like those mentioned, they are about to start rattling off stereotypes. They did this report on NPR on how more young people are identifying themselves as being multi-racial. One girl they interviewed made a very sage observation: " When people ask what race u are, what they are really asking is ' What niche can i put u on? What can I assume about u?'
Renshahi
22-05-2005, 01:36
I see Yank and Limey as proper terms, because they actually mean something... Yank pertaining to "Yankee", as in "American", while Limey is to British sailors (dunno how it started being used to describe everyday British people).

"Kraut" and "Frog", however, were started as insults. To the best of my knowledge, at least.
Limey was because of scurvy, a very nasty sickness sailors would get. The only thing that seemed to prevent it was citris fruits. Brits began going crazy with limes and such to prevent scurvy.
Mercaenaria
22-05-2005, 01:51
..while Limey is to British sailors (dunno how it started being used to describe everyday British people).
Limey refers to the british practices of eating limes and other citrus fruit while at sea to fend off scurvy, which is a debilitating disease. And while we're on the subject of proper deraugative terms, how about Seppo? It's an australian term for Yanks, because septic tank rhymes with Yank, and Yanks may have a reputation for being full of s**t. And Brits, while we're on it, in Oz are referred to sometimes as Pommies, or just, Poms, which is short for pomengranate. Usually preceeded by "Bloody" or F-ing but all in good fun, eh?
Renshahi
22-05-2005, 02:02
Limey refers to the british practices of eating limes and other citrus fruit while at sea to fend off scurvy, which is a debilitating disease. And while we're on the subject of proper deraugative terms, how about Seppo? It's an australian term for Yanks, because septic tank rhymes with Yank, and Yanks may have a reputation for being full of s**t. And Brits, while we're on it, in Oz are referred to sometimes as Pommies, or just, Poms, which is short for pomengranate. Usually preceeded by "Bloody" or F-ing but all in good fun, eh?

Thats okay most American terms are just shortenings of other countries names. Except charlie of course, that was against the VC in Viet Nam or Haji now out here in Iraq.
The Bauhas
22-05-2005, 02:05
None of those words are extremely offensive, per se.

It seems the only pejorative ethnic names people get all ruffled up over are the ones used to describe non-whites.
Potaria
22-05-2005, 02:08
1: The term I was hinting at was "pigfucker"... The other being "chickenfucker".

2: I know about the whole Limey thing; that's why I said British Sailors.
Isanyonehome
22-05-2005, 02:15
Nope. I have had the occasion to call myself a Yank, and I've never met a Limey who cared if he was called one (Bloody Royalist OTOH...)

IMO Kraut is no longer used (by Yanks) because the Germans are neither haughty, stuffy, stuck-up or a major PITA. (i.e we're not fighting them and they don't insult us at every opportunity) ditto for Chink, Gook, Slope, Jap, Wop, Red or Ruskie.

As for the Frogs, they deserve it ;) .

You forgot camel jockey, rag head, dot head, towel head, curry hound(go figure), a few local words that dont translate well(they often involve sisters and goats). Oh, ..alost forgot..sand ******.

Try to be inclusive with the insults. Its only fair.
The Bauhas
22-05-2005, 02:19
I wonder how many people automatically froze up when they saw the word "******"?

People are always able to jokingly talk about limeys, dagos, and krauts; mention a ****** or a spic, however, and everyone shuffles their feet and gets uncomfortable.
Alidor
22-05-2005, 02:31
Pommies, or just, Poms, which is short for pomengranate. Usually preceeded by "Bloody" or F-ing but all in good fun, eh?[/QUOTE]

I was under the impression POME or Pommie where used to describe a British person as a Prisoner Of Mother England
The Downmarching Void
22-05-2005, 02:33
I've been called a Canuck by Americans, Brits, French, etc. and never been bothered. I've heard my dad get called a bloody kraut and it pissses me off to no end. A) He's a Canadian citizen by choice, not by accident, like the misplaced c**shots callling him a kraut. B) WWII ended 60 years ago. C) I've only met 5 people over the age of 10 who think all Germans (and former Germans) are still Nazis. D) Anyone who does that when I'm around will suffer enormous agony at my hands.

I wouldn't use the term Frog either, unless I wanted to piss off a *really ignorant*Seperatist. (Never had to resort to that).

I've heard the term Yank used both as a pejorative and just as a handy term for our southern neighbours., 99.99% or whom can figure such things out for themselves on an individiual basis quite well, as this thread shows.
Chellis
22-05-2005, 02:35
I get offended when called a yank, or a frog. But the yank is for a different reason ;)
Boonytopia
22-05-2005, 02:49
Pommies, or just, Poms, which is short for pomengranate. Usually preceeded by "Bloody" or F-ing but all in good fun, eh?

I was under the impression POME or Pommie where used to describe a British person as a Prisoner Of Mother England[/QUOTE]

I've heard both of those explanations before. I don't think linguists are 100% sure of the derivation.
Verghastinsel
22-05-2005, 03:23
Don't forget the Chinks. Or "Those slitty-eyed bastards" as Prince Philip calls them.
Daekerius
22-05-2005, 03:36
Lol ive been called polak a lot of times before! >_> Lol the people who call me that are usually the uneducated ones, they assume me to be uneducated...pfft. They can kiss my Polish ass lol
Hoftsbaden
22-05-2005, 03:43
I see Yank and Limey as proper terms, because they actually mean something... Yank pertaining to "Yankee", as in "American", while Limey is to British sailors (dunno how it started being used to describe everyday British people).

"Kraut" and "Frog", however, were started as insults. To the best of my knowledge, at least.

Limey was originally used to describe British sailors who kept a supply of limes aboard the ships to provide vitamin C in their diet, thus staving off scurvy. Some credit the improved health of royal navy seamen for various naval victories including the Battle of Trafalgar in 1805.
Tazikhstan
22-05-2005, 12:51
Limey refers to the british practices of eating limes and other citrus fruit while at sea to fend off scurvy, which is a debilitating disease. And while we're on the subject of proper deraugative terms, how about Seppo? It's an australian term for Yanks, because septic tank rhymes with Yank, and Yanks may have a reputation for being full of s**t. And Brits, while we're on it, in Oz are referred to sometimes as Pommies, or just, Poms, which is short for pomengranate. Usually preceeded by "Bloody" or F-ing but all in good fun, eh?

I like being called a pom, especially by that Aussie barmaid in that boxing pub round the corner from Leicester Square. I've seen far too much Neighbours and as such have a love for the big country in the Antipodes, and its definitely my favourite informal/derogatory term

One of the English terms for Australians is "convict". A friend of mine recently applied for Australian citizenship but shot himself in the foot, when asked if he had a criminal record, he replied with "Why? Is it still compulsory?" But like Mercaenaria said, its all in good fun. ;)

How about Kiwi for New Zealanders? That's the only one I use all the time, as opposed to saying the nationality of somebody. That's another one that's usually prefixed with "bloody".

I don't mind being called a Limey, Brit, or Rosbouef, although I tend to use "Colonial" as opposed to "Yank" when describing our transatlantic cousins in a more informal manner.
Ariddia
22-05-2005, 12:56
I don't mind being called a Frog. ;) If it's used in a non-derogatory sense, then it's all in good fun; and if it's used as a genuine insult, then it's used by people too moronic, xenophobic and abyssmally lower than me on any scale of intelligence for me to care what they say.
31
22-05-2005, 12:56
I've been called a Canuck by Americans, Brits, French, etc. and never been bothered. I've heard my dad get called a bloody kraut and it pissses me off to no end. A) He's a Canadian citizen by choice, not by accident, like the misplaced c**shots callling him a kraut. B) WWII ended 60 years ago. C) I've only met 5 people over the age of 10 who think all Germans (and former Germans) are still Nazis. D) Anyone who does that when I'm around will suffer enormous agony at my hands.

I wouldn't use the term Frog either, unless I wanted to piss off a *really ignorant*Seperatist. (Never had to resort to that).

I've heard the term Yank used both as a pejorative and just as a handy term for our southern neighbours., 99.99% or whom can figure such things out for themselves on an individiual basis quite well, as this thread shows.

The thing I like best about Canadians is their modesty.
31
22-05-2005, 12:59
How about Pinko or Red for the Commies? I wonder what they thought of that or if they thought of it at all?
I always liked Pinko and ChiCom myself. "Imperialist running dog" was always a fun one.
Carops
22-05-2005, 13:20
Im English and occasionally i use the terms "frog" or "kraut." I usually do this because they dont vote for us in the Eurovision song contest, or because they try to take our EU tax rebate away. I know quite a few pleasant French and German people. They're fine on their own. But you put in them togetehr in a big group, say 70 million, and they do things like that! Plus a poll last week showed that the majority of Europeans regard the French as precosious, ill-mannered, and big-mouthed. The worst thing they siad about us Britons was that we hate the French too much. And i dont hate the French.. I just dont trust them.
Potaria
22-05-2005, 13:22
Limey was originally used to describe British sailors who kept a supply of limes aboard the ships to provide vitamin C in their diet, thus staving off scurvy. Some credit the improved health of royal navy seamen for various naval victories including the Battle of Trafalgar in 1805.

I know already... That's why I said British Sailors... Do you people read!?
31
22-05-2005, 13:26
I know already... That's why I said British Sailors... Do you people read!?

I was going to comment on that but I figured if I waited long enough you would go get'em. Sick'em Pot, sick'em!! :D
The Motor City Madmen
22-05-2005, 14:54
How about beaner, wetback, nip, zipper head, jig, etc.?
Haken Rider
22-05-2005, 15:01
And what aboot 'redneck'?
Myrmidonisia
22-05-2005, 15:48
1: The term I was hinting at was "pigfucker"... The other being "chickenfucker".

You're obviously an ignorant Yankee, then.
Kirkmichael
22-05-2005, 17:16
Some of these words are definitely more offensive than others, which is why people have an adverse reaction to the word "******" and not such a bad reaction to "yank". The latter has a history of being meant as an insult, and not even a very serious one. The former has associations with centuries of exploitation and slavery, where it was only rarely used as a direct, deliberate insult. That would be granting to much respect to the target of the abuse. Far more often it was just casually used as a word for a race that a whole culture just accepted was inferior.

So yeah, I've never really been insulted by anyone calling me a british-based insult or a scottish-based insult, because I've never really had the impression that anyone seriously thought I was less of a person for being British or Scottish.

I like being called a pom, especially by that Aussie barmaid in that boxing pub round the corner from Leicester Square. I've seen far too much Neighbours and as such have a love for the big country in the Antipodes, and its definitely my favourite informal/derogatory term.

Ah, Neighbours. How could you not love it?
Tazikhstan
22-05-2005, 18:50
Wow! I didn't think an Englishman could be treated so cordially by an uncultured jocko ;)

That's a thought, when I've been insulted by citizens of the other countries in the British Isles on the basis of being English, its usually just "English prick" said in a nasty manner. Do we not have an equivalent of taff, mick or jocko?



The English don't like, but respect the Scots.
The English like, but don't respect the Irish.
The English neither like nor respect the Welsh.



But everyone hates us :(
Robbopolis
22-05-2005, 20:48
yank doesnt bother me, its what i am

Same here. I use the others too. I don't think that anyone I've ever met has been offended by it.

Around town here we have a guy with a German Shepherd who wears sunglasses and rides around in his motorcycle sidecar. The dog's name is Kraut.
Cannot think of a name
22-05-2005, 21:10
I think only people from the south are offended at being called Yanks. Or Red Sox fans, I think.

One of my first plays had a character refer to a Porsche as a "Kraut car" when trying to call a dude out to race against a Corvette in a video game. I honestly associated it with sourkraut and knew it was a reduction and insulting a little, but the characters where supposed to be kinda callus. The director got real nervous about the character saying that and wanted me to change it. I didn't think it was that big a deal, especially considering some of the other things the characters said. Reading through, it looks like he was kinda right, people do take that pretty seriously and I stand corrected. I've never used it that I know of except in that bit of character dialog. Learn something everyday...
Haverton
22-05-2005, 21:28
I get annoyed when I'm referred to as a Yank, considering I'm not a Yankee.
Mercaenaria
23-05-2005, 11:37
Talking to a mate of mine one time about something or the other, I forget what, and he happened to make some statement about how he heard someone refer to Scandanavian people as "fjord-Niggers" which just sent me off into a fit of laughter for upwards of a minute. I still get a laugh off of that.
Helioterra
23-05-2005, 11:44
Talking to a mate of mine one time about something or the other, I forget what, and he happened to make some statement about how he heard someone refer to Scandanavian people as "fjord-Niggers" which just sent me off into a fit of laughter for upwards of a minute. I still get a laugh off of that.
Considering that other Europeans used to call Finns as niggers of the north, I'm not surprised :)

But then we decided that they didnt't actually mean us Finns but Sami.. :rolleyes:

e.g. Carl Von Linné defined Samis as Homo Sapiens Monstrous... :mad:
Tekania
23-05-2005, 13:32
while Limey is to British sailors (dunno how it started being used to describe everyday British people).

Well, it came as a product of the Royal Navy... RN sailors were nicknamed "Limey's" because the vessels woudl carry large quantities of limes with them (to combat scurvy/Vitamin C deficiency)... Because of this "odd" (at the time) aspect, sailors aquired the name "limey" for eating so many limes.... And then kind of drifted to general use for any Brit.
Independent Homesteads
23-05-2005, 13:53
French. What about Spaniards, how are they insulted?

spaniards were unpleasantly referred to as dagos by people of my dad's generation
Independent Homesteads
23-05-2005, 13:55
I get annoyed when I'm referred to as a Yank, considering I'm not a Yankee.

"Yank" comes from "Jenke" which is a way of referring to people of Dutch descent similar to calling irish people "paddy", ie it was perceived as a common christian name for dutch-descended people.
Independent Homesteads
23-05-2005, 13:57
when I've been insulted by citizens of the other countries in the British Isles on the basis of being English, its usually just "English prick" said in a nasty manner. Do we not have an equivalent of taff, mick or jocko?


scots and irish people say "sassenach"

which is gaelic for "english person". so not that much of an insult unless you actually add "prick".
Werteswandel
23-05-2005, 14:01
I like being called a pom, especially by that Aussie barmaid in that boxing pub round the corner from Leicester Square.
I may know who you mean, but I suspect my memory is hazy due to the influence of certain imbibed fluids. In pint form. Severally.

That said, I'm starting to think that every single barperson in London is an Aussie.
Rivotril
23-05-2005, 14:41
I think only people from the south are offended at being called Yanks. Or Red Sox fans, I think.


Being a Redsox fan I find that pretty amusing. But there are alot of Sox fans who would be very angry at being called a Yank, they take the sox seriously. :D
Syniks
23-05-2005, 14:50
You forgot camel jockey, rag head, dot head, towel head, curry hound(go figure), a few local words that dont translate well(they often involve sisters and goats). Oh, ..alost forgot..sand ******.

Try to be inclusive with the insults. Its only fair.Welp, I wasn't/haven't been involved enough in those conflicts, nor have I had recent enough discussions with Vets who were, to be up on all the most recent battlefield slang... :rolleyes:
Wegason
23-05-2005, 14:53
One of the English terms for Australians is "convict". A friend of mine recently applied for Australian citizenship but shot himself in the foot, when asked if he had a criminal record, he replied with "Why? Is it still compulsory?" But like Mercaenaria said, its all in good fun. ;)

:p Seriously ROTFLMAO.
Puddytat
23-05-2005, 14:56
I've got no probs getting called Limey pom or even english prick (mostly by yanks and colonials)

The Taffs (sheep shaggers), Sweaty Socks, Fenian Micks, and paddys don't seem to mind either but I've always liked being called a sassenach espescially in heavy accented Jockonese by skirt wearing Haggis basher,

As for the colonials, I love ducking after you call a Canuck a yank, or a Draft dodger.

and my previous Frog Girlfriend didn't mind being called a frog, but she did object to cheese eating surrender monkey though.

I just Stick to Colonials for most, as it seems to irritate most nations.
Eutrusca
23-05-2005, 14:57
Yanks, Limeys, Frogs, Krauts, etc. etc. Do any of you really get offended if someone uses these terms?

As for myself, not at all. If someone refers to me as a Yank I can't say it means much of anything to me. All of these just seem a joking way to refer to people. Then again, I only have read Yanks in posts. The other three I haven't really seen used, does anybody use any of these?
I don't care either ... as long as no one calls me a Yankee! Grrrrrr! :D
ChuChullainn
23-05-2005, 14:58
Sassenach doesnt mean english person it just means outsider in general
Werteswandel
23-05-2005, 15:04
I don't care either ... as long as no one calls me a Yankee! Grrrrrr! :D
This is as good a time as any: how exactly is a 'yank[ee]' defined?
Gollumidas
23-05-2005, 15:05
I didn't know that anyone under 70 still used those terms. :confused:
Whispering Legs
23-05-2005, 15:09
Yanks, Limeys, Frogs, Krauts, etc. etc. Do any of you really get offended if someone uses these terms?

As for myself, not at all. If someone refers to me as a Yank I can't say it means much of anything to me. All of these just seem a joking way to refer to people. Then again, I only have read Yanks in posts. The other three I haven't really seen used, does anybody use any of these?

I've always wondered if the term "Dutch" (a seeming corruption of the word Deutscher) was originally a derogatory term.
Brianetics
23-05-2005, 15:10
"Yank" comes from "Jenke" which is a way of referring to people of Dutch descent similar to calling irish people "paddy", ie it was perceived as a common christian name for dutch-descended people.

Well, that's one theory. If it's true, it merely confirms that "yank" referred originally to mid-atlantic colonists (of the former New Netherland), later expanded to all of the North. At no time, however, was it ever acceptable in the U.S. to refer to a southerner as a yank. I'm not a southerner (I have no problem being called a yank, I am one), but it still irks me when foreigners fail to make that distinction.
Eutrusca
23-05-2005, 15:15
This is as good a time as any: how exactly is a 'yank[ee]' defined?
Before the US Civil War, Congress attempted to draw a line between the slave states and the states which had abolished slavery. This was called the Mason-Dixon line (http://www.factmonster.com/ipka/A0197844.html), after the two English astronomers who had been selected to survey it. Anyone who lives above the Mason-Dixon Line is a Yankee! :D

EDIT: It was a long time before I realized that "Damn-Yankee" was two words! :D
ChuChullainn
23-05-2005, 15:15
I've always wondered if the term "Dutch" (a seeming corruption of the word Deutscher) was originally a derogatory term.

I always thought this wasnt a derogatory term but just a result of a dialect of german becoming a language of its own over time. For all you dutch people out there please dont hate me for comparing you as offshoots of germany
The Downmarching Void
23-05-2005, 15:16
How could I forget my favourite insulting term for the English. I picked it up in Germany, but I'll just give the english translation: ISLAND MONKEY. My uncle used it in reference to an english tennis start throwing a hissy fit during a match at Wimbledon.

Several friends of Irish, French and Scottish background were aware of it before I ever mentioned it to them. I only use it when some English does something particularly ignorant, such as F1 officials calling for extreme sanctions against Michael Schumacher after he pulled an ignorant stunt that Damon "also-ran" Hill had done just weeks before with the same officials blessings and excuses.

I haven't used it in years, as I'm old enough to know it is much better to insult a person based on their mental powers or by questioning the validity of their birth (ie: misplaced c**shot)
Whispering Legs
23-05-2005, 15:19
I always thought this wasnt a derogatory term but just a result of a dialect of german becoming a language of its own over time. For all you dutch people out there please dont hate me for comparing you as offshoots of germany
It may not be one today, but I wonder if it was one hundreds of years ago.
ChuChullainn
23-05-2005, 15:21
It may not be one today, but I wonder if it was one hundreds of years ago.

I see your point but it seems unlikely to me. I'll agree to disagree before i get my ass kicked in an argument
The Downmarching Void
23-05-2005, 15:23
Well, that's one theory. If it's true, it merely confirms that "yank" referred originally to mid-atlantic colonists (of the former New Netherland), later expanded to all of the North. At no time, however, was it ever acceptable in the U.S. to refer to a southerner as a yank. I'm not a southerner (I have no problem being called a yank, I am one), but it still irks me when foreigners fail to make that distinction.

I once had to correct some younger friends in Germany when they were trying to insult a US Marine whom I could tell was from the deep south (It may have been the unaffected way he used the term "Y'all") When I told them the correct term was redneck, they couldn't stop laaughing. The Marine actually thoguht it was funny and thanked me for the correction. He pegged me as a Canuck right off the bat too, interestingly enough. Said a Yanky wouldn't have been so polite about it :p
Bodies Without Organs
23-05-2005, 15:38
How could I forget my favourite insulting term for the English. I picked it up in Germany, but I'll just give the english translation: ISLAND MONKEY.

Haven't come across this one before, but it reminds me of the term 'monkey hanger' to describe people from Hartlepool.
Paddyshire
23-05-2005, 15:43
I myself am proud of being descended from a nation that can take a joke (apparently so can canada). :) Although I find it odd the way in these modern days the old pub jokes beginning 'An Englishman, Irishman and Scotsman' are transplanted with the words brunette, blonde and ginger.
I can understand people thinking the Irish are silly for the 'bloody catholics' and 'damn prods' constantly being at each other's throats, but the whole blonde's being stupid thing seems unfounded. :confused:
Eutrusca
23-05-2005, 15:52
I myself am proud of being descended from a nation that can take a joke (apparently so can canada). :) Although I find it odd the way in these modern days the old pub jokes beginning 'An Englishman, Irishman and Scotsman' are transplanted with the words brunette, blonde and ginger.
I can understand people thinking the Irish are silly for the 'bloody catholics' and 'damn prods' constantly being at each other's throats, but the whole blonde's being stupid thing seems unfounded. :confused:
( shrug ) Blondes are an easy target and are not a protected group under the law. They have no legal recourse when people cap down on them. :)
Tazikhstan
23-05-2005, 16:29
Well, that's one theory. If it's true, it merely confirms that "yank" referred originally to mid-atlantic colonists (of the former New Netherland), later expanded to all of the North. At no time, however, was it ever acceptable in the U.S. to refer to a southerner as a yank. I'm not a southerner (I have no problem being called a yank, I am one), but it still irks me when foreigners fail to make that distinction.

:D

Probably the annoying equivalent of when someone says "British" accent. HATE! Or when a southerner (Southern England) confuses Lancastrians with Tykes. HATE MORE!

I prefer local derogatory terms, much more unpleasant and full of vitriol!

How could I forget my favourite insulting term for the English. I picked it up in Germany, but I'll just give the english translation: ISLAND MONKEY.

LOL

I need to get my passport changed to list my nationality as "Island Monkey". I'm going to write to my MP...
Hata-alla
23-05-2005, 16:35
Discussion from Three Kings(a movie about the 1st gulf war)

Chief Elgin: I don't care if he's from Johannesburg. I don't want to hear Dune Coon or Sand ****** from him or anybody else.
Conrad Vig: Captain uses those terms.
Sgt. Troy Barlow: That's not the point, Conrad. The point is that Towel Head and Camel Jockey are perfectly good substitutes.
Chief Elgin: Exactly!

Fjord-niggers... I love that expression! :cool: Are there any other words for scandinavian people I can use?(I live in sweden)
ChuChullainn
23-05-2005, 16:36
I myself am proud of being descended from a nation that can take a joke (apparently so can canada). :) Although I find it odd the way in these modern days the old pub jokes beginning 'An Englishman, Irishman and Scotsman' are transplanted with the words brunette, blonde and ginger.
I can understand people thinking the Irish are silly for the 'bloody catholics' and 'damn prods' constantly being at each other's throats, but the whole blonde's being stupid thing seems unfounded. :confused:

Well you know what they say. The only reason the irish fight with eachother is because theres no other worthy opponent ;)
Kervoskia
23-05-2005, 16:36
I'm half Korean, what am I called? Off-white?
Puddytat
23-05-2005, 16:41
:D

Probably the annoying equivalent of when someone says "British" accent. HATE! Or when a southerner (Southern England) confuses Lancastrians with Tykes. HATE MORE!

I prefer local derogatory terms, much more unpleasant and full of vitriol!


well as a plastic souser-wooly back sheep gobbling cheshire boy, I think the clay heads, Monkey Hangers (beat us in the playoffs) tykes mancs Dum Brum, and souther shandy drinking shirt lift frog loving poofs should change their passports to the corresponding as well (I already have a scouse passport with the correct sections highlighted)
Eutrusca
23-05-2005, 16:46
I'm half Korean, what am I called? Off-white?
How about I just call you Kervoskia? I would call you by your name, but I don't know it. :)
Eutrusca
23-05-2005, 16:48
Discussion from Three Kings(a movie about the 1st gulf war)

Chief Elgin: I don't care if he's from Johannesburg. I don't want to hear Dune Coon or Sand ****** from him or anybody else.
Conrad Vig: Captain uses those terms.
Sgt. Troy Barlow: That's not the point, Conrad. The point is that Towel Head and Camel Jockey are perfectly good substitutes.
Chief Elgin: Exactly!

Fjord-niggers... I love that expression! :cool: Are there any other words for scandinavian people I can use?(I live in sweden)
"Fjord-niggers!" OMG! ROFLMFAO!!!!
The Downmarching Void
23-05-2005, 16:58
How do people from Glasgow take it when you call them SoapDodgers? And where does the name come from? I spent a grand total of one evening in Scotland...at a club in Edinborough called the Belle Angel/Club Manga (I think its how they spell it) I couldn't understand 90% of what 50% of the poeple there were saying. The fact they were mashed on E and/or beer didn't help none.
Drunk commies reborn
23-05-2005, 17:01
French. What about Spaniards, how are they insulted?
Being spanish is insult enough.
Drunk commies reborn
23-05-2005, 17:08
I'm half Korean, what am I called? Off-white?
Cauc-Asian
Daistallia 2104
23-05-2005, 18:14
Nope. I have had the occasion to call myself a Yank, and I've never met a Limey who cared if he was called one (Bloody Royalist OTOH...)

IMO Kraut is no longer used (by Yanks) because the Germans are neither haughty, stuffy, stuck-up or a major PITA. (i.e we're not fighting them and they don't insult us at every opportunity) ditto for Chink, Gook, Slope, Jap, Wop, Red or Ruskie.

As for the Frogs, they deserve it ;) .

Tell the jerk who casually responed to a post I made last week with "I thought the Japs were smarter than that."
:rolleyes:

"Yank" comes from "Jenke" which is a way of referring to people of Dutch descent similar to calling irish people "paddy", ie it was perceived as a common christian name for dutch-descended people.

More or less in line with the most common etymology.

Yankee Look up Yankee at Dictionary.com
1683, a name applied disparagingly by Du. settlers in New Amsterdam (New York) to English colonists in neighboring Connecticut. It may be from Du. Janke, lit. "Little John," dim. of common personal name Jan; or it may be from Jan Kes familiar form of "John Cornelius," or perhaps an alt. of Jan Kees, dial. variant of Jan Kaas, lit. "John Cheese," the generic nickname the Flemings used for Dutchmen. It originally seems to have been applied insultingly to Dutch, especially freebooters, before they turned around and slapped it on the English. In Eng. a term of contempt (1750s) before its use as a general term for "native of New England" (1765); during the American Revolution it became a disparaging British word for all American native or inhabitants. Shortened form Yank in reference to "an American" first recorded 1778.
http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=Yankee

However, it's not entierly clear that this is the most accurate etymology.
http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a2_260.html
Syniks
23-05-2005, 18:34
Cauc-Asian

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