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Is there anyone else who can't fucking stand Nancy Grace?

To me she's just a bitch lady who's obsessed with victim culture, and wants to exploit people. She wears too much makeup and her facts are never fully true.
She's REALLY biased. I mean, sure her fiancee died, but now I'm beginning to think she did it herself to get publicity!

Is there anyone else who can't fucking stand Nancy Grace?

To me she's just a bitch lady who's obsessed with victim culture, and wants to exploit people. She wears too much makeup and her facts are never fully true.
She's REALLY biased. I mean, sure her fiancee died, but now I'm beginning to think she did it herself to get publicity!

I assume you are speaking of the former prosecutor who appears on TV, including Court TV. Clicky! (http://www.courttv.com/anchors/nancy_grace.html)

If so, your comments are an ignorant tantrum. Your post is a disgraceful display of juvenile mudslinging and ad hominem attack.

I am no fan of Ms. Grace. I have many objections to what she says and does.

But she has contributed to society. She served for over a decade in the Atlanta Fulton County District Attorney's Office as Special Prosecutor of major felony cases involving serial murder, serial rape, serial child molestation and arson. Grace compiled a perfect record of nearly 100 felony convictions at trial and no losses.

WTF have you done?

As to your disgusting comments about her fiance, have you decency?

She has a perfect record? That's mad-skillz, but a perfect record doesn't always mean a correct or just one... just because these people were brought to trial doesn't mean that they were guilty of the crime they were accused of. I find it difficult that 100% of people she faced were guilty, I mean that's just not possible. Someone who was innocent went to jail. And I would argue that "conviction crusades" are miscarriages of Justice, not Justice at its finest. Just because someone goes to jail doesn't mean justice was served.

Also as a question in general, how does one defend victims rights? What rights are taken away from victims? Seriously, I can't think of a one, other than privacy, which is a neccesary evil to litigate fully. I am personally more concerned with the rights of the accused, who may lose large segments of their life, or even their entire life if convicted.

Though speaking probably as a future defense lawyer, I can say that going up against someone like that would be a thrill. I mean Justice aside, she must be very good at what she does.

I just really hate her guts, to be honest. I'm allowed to. I just don't see how she can try to pass herself off as fair and a journalist.

She should have stayed a DA IMO. At least then she'd be doing some good rather than pointing fingers and calling people guilty before their trials even start.

Sorry if my original post sounded very rude, but she reminds of the superintendent of my high school, who looked just like her and ruined quite a few teachers' and students lives.

Nancy Grace uses the fact that she used to be a DA in order to be the judge, jury and executioner of people, and I think she should just let the courts decide guilt or innocence.

http://www.villagevoice.com/screens/0515,tv1,62897,28.html

Here's a bit of news to back up my arguement that she's just angry at the world and wants attention.
http://www.latimes.com/news/custom/showcase/cl-et-rutten14may14.column?ctrack=2&cset=true
http://legalethicsforum.typepad.com/blog/2005/05/laura_i_applema.html


I dunno. Maybe it's just a dislike for DAs I have. I don't have as much of a problem with Bill O'Reilly or Scarboro or Greta Van Sustren.

The lady snarls, and looks just plain mean most of the time. Every time I want a piece of decent news on CNN, I have to sit and watch ads for her show and see that darn mean look on her face.

She may have done well for herself in life, but the sound of her voice makes the hair on the back of my neck raise. I don't like her either.

I have seen her get her facts wrong more than a few times on Larry King. She most certainly assesses guilt or the assumption of guilt all the time towards people who have been only charged and not yet convicted, heck I've seen her do it when the person wasn't even charged with a crime yet. She is biased, there is no question in my mind on that.

I just really hate her guts, to be honest. I'm allowed to. I just don't see how she can try to pass herself off as fair and a journalist.

She should have stayed a DA IMO. At least then she'd be doing some good rather than pointing fingers and calling people guilty before their trials even start.

Sorry if my original post sounded very rude, but she reminds of the superintendent of my high school, who looked just like her and ruined quite a few teachers' and students lives. *snip*

I have no problem with your disliking Ms. Grace. I do too.

I think she is tremendously unfair and biased in her "reporting."

I think she unfairly uses her "authority" as a former prosecutor and victim.

I think she almost always assumes anyone suspect of a crime is guilty and manipulates and twists the facts to convince her viewers.

But the sort of disgusting hyperbole and mudslinging in your first post is exactly the type of thing you claim to dislike about Ms. Grace.

Your second post -- minus the attacks on her appearance -- comes closer to a reasoned opinion.

Your "angry with the world and just wants attention" thesis is not supported by the sources you cited, however.

Although I dislike Ms. Grace and I don't condone her prosecutorial misconduct, I must note that the cases cited are not such conclusive condemnation as some might imagine. One study (http://www.publicintegrity.org/pm/default.aspx?sid=sidebarsa&aid=40) revealed 11,452 cases in which charges of prosecutorial misconduct were reviewed by appellate court judges. Such charges are increasingly common. And, although some have merit, the terms "prosecutorial misconduct" have been criticized as improperly villifying the prosecutor. The phrase is a term of art. It means the prosecutor made an error. It does not necessarily mean they did so maliciously or intentionally.

The individual circumstances of the cases involving Ms. Grace are disturbing. But don't just believe the hype.

She is a scary and biased commentator. No need to stoop to her level to criticize her.

Thanks for pointing that out to me. I needed to realize that.

Thanks for pointing that out to me. I needed to realize that.

Wow. I admire your willing to say something like that. It is a rare sign of reasonableness and integrity. Thank you.

Anyway, you are most welcome. :cool: