NationStates Jolt Archive


The War on Drugs

Ismin
21-05-2005, 20:41
The War on Drugs has been a misguided drain on the taxpayers money for the past century. With each drug bust and each dealer arrested 10 more crop up in their place. With each stash of drugs confincated and destroyed twice as much is produced. It is estimated that over 100 Billion dollars is made by criminal organizations each year on the sale of drugs and that number rises each month.

It's time to give up. Legalize all drugs, regulate the hell out of them, and have public awareness on the HEALTH risks of drugs without the legal tangle of the current Narcotics Laws.

After all Forbidden Fruits taste sweetest.

Without the allure of illegality the drug culture will lose it's appeal in the long term and without the DEA sucking on our cash the taxpayer will be better off.
Rummania
21-05-2005, 20:46
Someone I know just got arrested for LSD possession. I can understand why many drugs are illegal, but putting someone in prison for owning a substance that MIGHT hurt THEIR psyche and nothing else. Now the poor bastard is probably going to end up in jail for YEARS. The crime: listening to Jefferson Airplane and making weird doodles. Meanwhile, it's totally legal for someone to get so drunk they shit themselves and then drive home and kill people behind the wheel. I hate this country sometimes.
Uginin
21-05-2005, 20:52
Well, I think the most harmful drugs should be illegalized. (Crack, heroin, cocaine) However, I think they should stop hunting down people for marijuana and shit like that. I mean it's less of a risk than alcohol or tabacco! And it's a waste of my money to throw some 18 year old experimenter in jail. Make it legal, and it's quite possible less people will try it.
Ismin
21-05-2005, 20:52
Someone I know just got arrested for LSD possession. I can understand why many drugs are illegal, but putting someone in prison for owning a substance that MIGHT hurt THEIR psyche and nothing else. Now the poor bastard is probably going to end up in jail for YEARS. The crime: listening to Jefferson Airplane and making weird doodles. Meanwhile, it's totally legal for someone to get so drunk they shit themselves and then drive home and kill people behind the wheel. I hate this country sometimes.

Don't hate this country, hate the morons running it and don't vote for them anymore.

I'm thinking of starting my own political party one day that will promote policies based on COMMON SENSE rather than partisan politics.
New Genoa
21-05-2005, 20:55
It's time to give up. Legalize all drugs, regulate the hell out of them, and have public awareness on the HEALTH risks of drugs without the legal tangle of the current Narcotics Laws.

Why should we regulate the hell out of them and waste time with useless awareness classes that no one ever listens to in the first place when kids can be learning something else that may actually help them in life?
Ismin
21-05-2005, 20:57
Why should we regulate the hell out of them and waste time with useless awareness classes that no one ever listens to in the first place when kids can be learning something else that may actually help them in life?

Because THAT's the American way!- Random Patriotic Nut

How about tax the hell out of?

Nuthing like hitting people in the wallet to get them to stop doing stuff.
New Genoa
21-05-2005, 20:59
Because THAT's the American way!- Random Patriotic Nut

How about tax the hell out of?

Nuthing like hitting people in the wallet to get them to stop doing stuff.

Taxing doesn't discourage people... they'll still get it regardless. Just look at how many teen smokers there are despite cigarettes being heavily taxed, tobacco ads censored on TV, and the legal age being 18 (I think).
Ismin
21-05-2005, 21:03
Taxing doesn't discourage people... they'll still get it regardless. Just look at how many teen smokers there are despite cigarettes being heavily taxed, tobacco ads censored on TV, and the legal age being 18 (I think).

Well there is always going to be SOMEONE doing these things but with drugs legal, taxed, and regulated by a government agency overlooking whatever corporations take control of drug trafficing in place of the mafia, it will be easier to keep use to a minimal number of people. It won't be perfect but there won't be as many people in jail sucking up our tax dollars as there are now.
New Genoa
21-05-2005, 21:07
Well there is always going to be SOMEONE doing these things but with drugs legal, taxed, and regulated by a government agency overlooking whatever corporations take control of drug trafficing in place of the mafia, it will be easier to keep use to a minimal number of people. It won't be perfect but there won't be as many people in jail sucking up our tax dollars as there are now.

Why not just regulate it to a point to ensure that there's no rat poison, etc in it and then let people decide what they want instead. Other attempts to curtail drug use are really fruitless. Same thing happens with Sex Ed. Like anyone really cares about that.
The Downmarching Void
21-05-2005, 21:13
Why on earth would you let a corporation take care of the manufacture and distribution of all the drugs you want to legalize? Thats just nuts, letting some suits profit from even more addictions and misery besides alcochol, gambling, tobacco, porn, etc.

Legalize drugs, yes. Corpratize them? NO! Leave it in Government hands, charge enough to make a minimal profit that can be invested in getting people off of drugs. Corporations would just do everything in their power to ensure people would stay strung out.
Utracia
21-05-2005, 21:18
If anything the laws against drugs need to be toughened. It may work easier to give addicts treatment the first couple of times instead of jailing them since it will give them a chance and is often cheaper also. Dealers and traffickers in these dangerous substances need to have their asses thrown into prison for a VERY long time. Why anyone would want to leagalize these things is beyond me. Marijuana is one thing that i can understand people arguing for leagalization but the harder stuff is something totally different.
LazyHippies
21-05-2005, 21:34
The War on child pornography has been a misguided drain on the taxpayers money for the past century. With each child pornographer and each child rapist arrested 10 more crop up in their place. With each stash of child pornography discovered and destroyed twice as many images are produced. It is estimated that over 1 billion dollars is made by criminal organizations each year on the sale of child pornography and the number rises each month.

It's time to give up. Legalize child pornography, regulate the hell out of it, and have public awareness on the PSYCHOLOGICAL risks of child pornography without the legal tangle of the current Child Porn Laws.

After all Forbidden Fruits taste sweetest.

Without the allure of illegality the child porn culture will lose it's appeal in the long term and without the police sucking on our cash the taxpayer will be better off.



*In case you couldnt figure it out, this is just a demonstration of how easily the "we should legalize everything we are unable to control" argument breaks down. This would mean legalizing gangs, murder, rape, child pornography, and a host of other things. Basing your laws on the ability you do or do not have to combat the crime is not a smart thing to do. There are good arguments for legalizing drugs, but our current failure to stop their spread is just not one of them.
Robbopolis
22-05-2005, 21:00
I admit that we have gone about it the wrong way, but legalizing drugs is not the answer.

People keep selling the drugs because there is so much money in it. As such, it's no ordinary crime like murder. It's an economic crime, and should be attacked as such. So far we've been going after the middlemen (pushers) and suppliers (growers). But because there is so much monay involved, more people take their places. What we need to do is attack the demand. Once the demand dries up, the supply will disappear as well.
Myrmidonisia
22-05-2005, 21:18
...Meanwhile, it's totally legal for someone to get so drunk they shit themselves and then drive home and kill people behind the wheel. I hate this country sometimes.
Are you posting from the U.S.? If you aren't what country allows driving while intoxicated?
GrandBill
22-05-2005, 21:20
However, I think they should stop hunting down people for marijuana and shit like that. I mean it's less of a risk than alcohol or tabacco! And it's a waste of my money to throw some 18 year old experimenter in jail. Make it legal, and it's quite possible less people will try it.

This , plus the fact the jail will ruin a person life because of the record and the psychological environment.

The running joke when I was in college, was that everytime a small pot dealer would get cougth, Is buisness would benefit from it. First because he was now screwed with a record and unable to find a normal job. Second, because of all the contact he made in prison, he was now paying is marijuanna 25% less. :rolleyes:
Myrmidonisia
22-05-2005, 21:26
*In case you couldnt figure it out, this is just a demonstration of how easily the "we should legalize everything we are unable to control" argument breaks down. This would mean legalizing gangs, murder, rape, child pornography, and a host of other things. Basing your laws on the ability you do or do not have to combat the crime is not a smart thing to do. There are good arguments for legalizing drugs, but our current failure to stop their spread is just not one of them.
Ah, not so fast. Is the argument really that we should legalize drugs because we can't stop their use? Okay, maybe it was. But it was the wrong argument.

The War on Drugs is a failure. A govenment has no business prohibiting an activity in which the participant only causes injury to himself. Continuing to prosecute individuals, whose only crime is simple possession of an illegal drug is a mistake. Legalization and the subsequent regulation of drugs would reduce the influence of the criminal element that is the proper target of law enforcement. The government would have a much better chance of controlling the criminal element in a modified War on Drug Criminals.