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prisoners were 'tortured to death' by American guards
By Justin Huggler, Asia Correspondent
21 May 2005

Shocking and detailed accounts have emerged of how two Afghan prisoners were tortured to death by American interrogators and prison guards at Bagram air base, outside Kabul.

A 2,000-page report on an internal investigation by the US military leaked to The New York Times and published yesterday provides exhaustive detail on how the two were kept chained in excruciating positions and kicked to death.

The harrowing stories of the deaths of Habibullah and Dilawar told in the report could prove as damaging to the US as the photographs of prisoner abuse at Abu Ghraib jail in Iraq.

The report reveals that Dilawar, a taxi driver, died despite the fact that most of the interrogators were convinced he was innocent.
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©2005 Independent News & Media (UK) Ltd

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=420520 :p

Dammit. This is exactly what I was saying about those who advocate torture, rather than those who might be willing to use it under extreme circumstances but hate it. You get enough nutjobs in the wrong places and suddenly the who American army looks like a bunch of thugs.

The whole damn prison gaurd population needs to be taken back to basic and drilled until they drop. They obviously didn't learn what they needed to the first time. What the hell is going on over there?

Where the hell is our vaunted US military discpline? We're better than this. Our soldiers are better than this, our officers are better than this...Why is it happening in the first place, and why does it KEEP happening?

Torture is an ineffective way of getting information, after some point, people who don't know anything will say whatever it takes to get it to stop.

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The leaked report contains graphic details of a culture of abuse at Bagram, where detainees are held while the US military decides whether to send them to Guantanamo. In sworn statements, US soldiers tell of a woman interrogator with a taste for humiliation who stepped on the neck of one detainee and kicked another in the genitals.

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They also tell of Specialist Damien Corsetti, an interrogator called "Monster" - and proud of it...
he had the word "Monster" tattooed in Italian across his chest - who one sergeant praised as the "king of torture". One Saudi detainee testified that Spc Corsetti held his penis against his face and threatened to rape him.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=420520 :pdamn, I did not see that...
here is my Link
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/asia/story.jsp?story=640070
its from today..

Fass, shall I delete this thread?

damn, I did not see that...
here is my Link
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/asia/story.jsp?story=640070
its from today..

Fass, shall I delete this thread?

I really don't mind. I just linked so that there was a link to a story. The more publicity this gets, the better.

I really don't mind. I just linked so that there was a link to a story. The more publicity this gets, the better.
thx

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"He screamed out, 'Allah! Allah! Allah!' and my first reaction was that he was crying out to his God," Spc Jones said. "Everybody heard him cry out and thought it was funny." The report says it became a running joke and prison guards kicked Dilawar just to hear him scream "Allah", "It went on over a 24-hour period, and I would think that it was over 100 strikes," he said.

During an interrogation, the severely injured Dilawar begged a translator to get him a doctor. The translator says he told the interrogators, but one replied: "He's OK. He's just trying to get out of his restraints."

An autopsy found that Dilawar died of heart failure caused by "blunt force injuries to the lower extremities". The coroner, Lieutenant-Colonel Elizabeth Rouse, told a pre-trial hearing that his legs "had basically been pulpified, I've seen similar injuries in an individual run over by a bus."