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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4567341.stm
Saddam Hussein plans to take legal action after a British newspaper published photos of him half-naked in his prison cell and doing his washing.

"We will sue the newspaper and everyone who helped in showing these pictures," said Saddam Hussein's chief lawyer Ziad Al-Khasawneh, speaking from Jordan.

Damn, thats some balls.

Now, granted-the article makes a pretty good case for why he would/can/should do that and before people respond they should read the whole thing-but still, all things considered it still takes some balls to make a stink.

For the record, not in favor of the invasion of Iraq. Doesn't mean I don't think that Saddam is a bastard.

I think Saddam Hussein was left in the dark about much of his countries doings. I also believe he has all the right in the world to sue that newspaper and everyone involved!

My sentiments exactly. he has huge brass ones to make a fuss about anything.

It's breaching the Geneva Convention, he should be taking on more than just one newspaper in one country.

Regardless of whether he is Saddam Hussein or not, you can't broadcast Prisoners of War on the Media.

No ....

http://academic.scranton.edu/student/DELTOROL2/Squirl.JPG

That's balls.

hmmmm i wonder if he'll be able to collect from the grave....

He hasn't been proven guilty in any court, so i think all media outlets broadcasting that he's a "murderous dictator" is too premature, and he should sue over that as well. I thought FNC was fair and balanced? Bit of an overstaatement... More than a bit, ha.

It's breaching the Geneva Convention, he should be taking on more than just one newspaper in one country.

Regardless of whether he is Saddam Hussein or not, you can't broadcast Prisoners of War on the Media.

The US? Comply with the Geneva Conventions? Ha. Haha. Hahahahaha....

No ....

http://academic.scranton.edu/student/DELTOROL2/Squirl.JPG

That's balls.

Bloody hell, that's impressive!

The US? Comply with the Geneva Conventions? Ha. Haha. Hahahahaha....

Technically, since the pictures appeared in the Sun (bunch o' wank), Britain is at fault too.

It's breaching the Geneva Convention, he should be taking on more than just one newspaper in one country.

Regardless of whether he is Saddam Hussein or not, you can't broadcast Prisoners of War on the Media.
Which is why the US government is investigating it.

The newspaper is responsible, all the people involved that are employed by the paper, and the US soldiers involved.

Not really. The newspaper is... And all the people involved that are employed by the paper, and the US soldiers involved.

A most valid point.

He hasn't been proven guilty in any court, so i think all media outlets broadcasting that he's a "murderous dictator" is too premature, and he should sue over that as well. I thought FNC was fair and balanced? Bit of an overstaatement... More than a bit, ha.
He hasn't been proven, yes, but the evidence is so clearly overwhelming...I mean, the prosecution has had to sift through his crimes so that only the major ones are prosecuted...They don't even have enough time to go through it all. Usually, the opposite is true, and a prosecutor wants as much evidence as possible.

Maybe he was kept in the dark on everything for years and other people made the decisions, but they just made it seem like he was in control.

He hasn't been proven, yes, but the evidence is so clearly overwhelming...I mean, the prosecution has had to sift through his crimes so that only the major ones are prosecuted...They don't even have enough time to go through it all. Usually, the opposite is true, and a prosecutor wants as much evidence as possible.

This is a moot point. He has been labelled as a crinimal even though it hasn't been proven in a court of law. This is illegal. We all know he's a bastard, but try to prove it!

It's breaching the Geneva Convention, he should be taking on more than just one newspaper in one country.

Regardless of whether he is Saddam Hussein or not, you can't broadcast Prisoners of War on the Media.
Don't get me wrong, I agree. (though I wonder-wouldn't that include all that footage we saw over and over again during his medical examination?)

I do find the statement made in the article:
The Sun quoted US military sources who said they handed over the pictures in the hope of dealing a blow to the resistance in Iraq.

"It's important that the people of Iraq see him like that to destroy the myth," the paper's source was quoted as saying.
reminicent(sp) of the begining of the war when an official said the same thing about showing Iraqis surrendering two days before the US made a stink about Al-Jezeera showing US prisoners...and it frustrated me that the duality went unacknowledged.

The right or wrong of it wasn't so much what caught my attention, just the balls of calling that particular wrong. He is going to trial and he things like that can effect things, so he kinda has to be on top of it. Still, takes balls to do that.

He didn't even do anything wrong to get invaded. If anyone who believes bush did it to save iraqis, then i'm sorry but maybe you should turn off FNC for a few hours... And no, i'm not a liberal.

No ....

http://academic.scranton.edu/student/DELTOROL2/Squirl.JPG

That's balls.
That's the squirrel that insists you get outta the way when walkin' by...

That's the squirrel that insists you get outta the way when walkin' by...

I hope he doesn't sue me for posting his picture. :eek:

Nah.. When you sue you want to go where the money is, not after every little thing.

I don't think that Saddam should be in jail in the first place. He didn't do anything to the United States, his own country should have taken care of him. So hell, he has balls... Platinum Ones

Nah.. When you sue you want to go where the money is, not after every little thing.
That's the cynical 'litigation as lottery' notion. Most the time you are suing to make a point/protect yourself. We shouldn't allow the notion of 'litigation as lottery' to get such a hold because it allows for the notion to become 'common sense' and makes it easier to erode our ability to defend ourselves legally.

I don't think that Saddam should be in jail in the first place. He didn't do anything to the United States, his own country should have taken care of him. So hell, he has balls... Platinum Ones
Certainly. Being a bastard is not grounds for invasion. If it was, we'd be screwed.

Technically, and thats with a capital T, he is being 'taken care of' by his own country in that 'they' are the ones putting him on trial. Technically. If you squint.

Definition of "bastard"

"the illegitimate offspring of unmarried parents". And so him being a bastard is an incorrect statement.

Definition of "bastard"

"the illegitimate offspring of unmarried parents". And so him being a bastard is an incorrect statement.
Definition of 'euphemism'

"The act or an example of substituting a mild, indirect, or vague term for one considered harsh, blunt, or offensive"

Definition of 'euphemism'

"The act or an example of substituting a mild, indirect, or vague term for one considered harsh, blunt, or offensive"

Definition of 'bigot'

"A bigot is a prejudiced person who is intolerant of any opinions differing from his own."

Definition of 'bigot'

"A bigot is a prejudiced person who is intolerant of any opinions differing from his own."
Lost me man.

EDIT: Looking over the posts, I think I should restate things to be clear-

The article comes from the BBC, not Fox News.

He is suing a british paper, not an american one. Unless he can establish that the photos where 'officially' released I don't know that he can sue the US, but I could be wrong on that.

On that note, I don't personally believe that the photos got out 'by accident,' but since I don't have proof one way or the other it's just my feeling.

I not only believe that he has a right to sue, but that it is in his best interest to sue.

Again-DO NOT support the invasion.

I am simply struck by the balls of doing it. Doesn't mean I'm against it or for him.

I don't have to like him. I don't have to like Bush either.

And 'bigot' is defined-

"One who is strongly partial to one's own group, religion, race, or politics and is intolerant of those who differ."

I don't think believing one guy to be a dick qualifies.

How so?

How so?
See edit.

I don't know where you got your definition from, but i got mine from the dictionary.

Definition of 'dick'

"someone who is a detective"

Cool, thanks!

I don't know where you got your definition from, but i got mine from the dictionary.

Definition of 'dick'

"someone who is a detective"

Cool, thanks!
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=bigot

definition of 'equivocation' (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?r=2&q=equivocation)

"n 1: a statement that is not literally false but that cleverly avoids an unpleasant truth"

Also, RIF (http://www.rif.org/). It'll help you better understand who I was calling a dick at the time. But, if the shoe fits...

Definition of 'BPD'

"persons with this disorder present instability in their perceptions of themselves, and have difficulty maintaining stable relationships. Moods may also be inconsistent, but never neutral - their sense of reality is always seen in "black and white." Persons with borderline personality disorder often feel as though they lacked a certain level of nurturing while growing up and, as a result, incessantly seek a higher level of caretaking from others as adults. This may be achieved through manipulation of others, leaving them often feeling empty, angry, and abandoned, which may lead to desperate and impulsive behavior."

Sound familar?

Definition of 'BPD'

"persons with this disorder present instability in their perceptions of themselves, and have difficulty maintaining stable relationships. Moods may also be inconsistent, but never neutral - their sense of reality is always seen in "black and white." Persons with borderline personality disorder often feel as though they lacked a certain level of nurturing while growing up and, as a result, incessantly seek a higher level of caretaking from others as adults. This may be achieved through manipulation of others, leaving them often feeling empty, angry, and abandoned, which may lead to desperate and impulsive behavior."

Sound familar?
Not so much, but I did just meet you...


All right, this has been cute but not what the thread is supposed to be about. Back on track, shall we?

Definition of 'APD'

"Avoidant personality disorder (sometimes abbreviated APD or AvPD) is a personality disorder characterised by a pervasive pattern of social inhibition, feelings of inadequacy, and extreme sensitivity to negative evaluation. People with avoidant personality disorder often consider themselves to be socially inept or personally unappealing, and avoid social interaction for fear of being ridiculed or humiliated."

I recognize this in you...

Definition of 'APD'

"Avoidant personality disorder (sometimes abbreviated APD or AvPD) is a personality disorder characterised by a pervasive pattern of social inhibition, feelings of inadequacy, and extreme sensitivity to negative evaluation. People with avoidant personality disorder often consider themselves to be socially inept or personally unappealing, and avoid social interaction for fear of being ridiculed or humiliated."

I recognize this in you...
I guess this is where I would put up a definition of "projecting" and keep this little sidetrack going, but instead I'm just going to ask politely again-we had our fun, now please: address the topic or post elsewhere.

If I recall right, "The Sun" is a tabloid. I'd never dare call one of those a newspaper. So if he wants to sue them, that's fine by me. Hope he bankrupts 'em. If it's not...it's a photo still done in bad taste, imo. He may have done immoral things, but he should be granted his basic human right to privacy, as well as the same right given by the Geneva Convention.

Definition of 'projection'

"Psychology - Relating to an outward appearance to someone or something else in order to avoid a direct connection to disguise it s real essence"

Hmm, that's an interesting one.

How about 'roti'?

Definition of 'projection'

"Psychology - Relating to an outward appearance to someone or something else in order to avoid a direct connection to disguise it s real essence"

Hmm, that's an interesting one.

How about 'roti'?
Seriously dude, post on topic or go somewhere else. Funs fun, but now your just a troll.

Just ending what you started.

If I recall right, "The Sun" is a tabloid. I'd never dare call one of those a newspaper. So if he wants to sue them, that's fine by me. Hope he bankrupts 'em. If it's not...it's a photo still done in bad taste, imo. He may have done immoral things, but he should be granted his basic human right to privacy, as well as the same right given by the Geneva Convention.
Is the Sun the one with the page 3 girls? I've never actually seen it. ('merican)

I think they're going to rely on the "but it's him" defence, which ain't right and shouldn't hold. But a lot of things that ain't right have been happening...

You see, i agree with your opinion. Why would i want to troll you? What we were doing before was like a weird kinda fun....