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I was wondering if anyone knows of a good site that does United Nations style roleplaying. I'm looking for something where people take on the role and platform of various nations and debate resolutions put forth. I know similar things go on here, but I'm looking for something that represents the real nations (ala Model UN if you know of it).

If anyone has any suggestions on sites or is maybe interested in starting one up, please let me know.

-D

Ever try clicking on the United Nations forum here on NS?

It's not a roleplaying UN, however. Go to the NationStates or UN forums and start a roleplay about the UN. I think (read the stickies) that the UN doesn't exist in roleplays, nor do the moderators, but you can ask the mods whether it's allowed to roleplay the UN.

~Czardas, Supreme Ruler of the Universe

It's not a roleplaying UN, however. Go to the NationStates or UN forums and start a roleplay about the UN. I think (read the stickies) that the UN doesn't exist in roleplays, nor do the moderators, but you can ask the mods whether it's allowed to roleplay the UN.

~Czardas, Supreme Ruler of the Universe

I'm pretty sure you can role-play something about the UN, I think it just has to be in the II or NS forums. The UN forum is not RP, but the UN as a subject matter is, I believe.

But anyway, beyond this site, I have no knowledge of an online model UN. Google it.

You could always engage in an offline model UN. However, it won't help your postcount too much... :p

~Czardas, Supreme Ruler of the Universe

I tried googling and I found a site: Www.unol.org but noones been active on the general forums since January. I haven't found anything else of interest.

I used to be in the Model UN back in high school but that was 10 years ago.

I just think it'd be fund to do something similar online.

I just think it'd be fund to do something similar online.

Sounds like an excellent idea. I'd be willing to join, and represent any one of these countries: France, Tuvalu, DPRK, ROK, San Marino or Cuba.

I'll represent Callisto, Ganymede, Titan, Europa, Mars, or Mercury.

Wait...do they have to be Terran countries?

~Czardas, Supreme Ruler of the Universe

I'll represent Callisto, Ganymede, Titan, Europa, Mars, or Mercury.

Wait...do they have to be Terran countries?

~Czardas, Supreme Ruler of the Universe

I think that those nations are only non-voting observers :)

I'll represent Callisto, Ganymede, Titan, Europa, Mars, or Mercury.

Wait...do they have to be Terran countries?

~Czardas, Supreme Ruler of the Universe

Yes. There are, I think, 192 to pick from (counting the relatively new additions that are Timor-Leste, Tuvalu and Switzerland), so you've got a fair amount of choice. ;)

This (www.lonelyplanet.com/destinations) website, by the way, will give you basic information on each country. So if you want to represent Suriname, Kiribati or Sao Tome & Principe, you won't be completely lost.

Thanks for the help Ariddia. I'll look and see what countries sound interesting.

~Czardas, Supreme Ruler of the Universe

Perhaps if we could get 5 or 6 people to represent maybe 2-3 countries each, then we could just do something on here or on the NS thread. Possibly look at some of the recent resolutions that are in the actual UN to debate while groups get together to write up new ones.

Perhaps if we could get 5 or 6 people to represent maybe 2-3 countries each, then we could just do something on here or on the NS thread. Possibly look at some of the recent resolutions that are in the actual UN to debate while groups get together to write up new ones.Good idea.

I won't be able to help organize it, as I'm away during the weekend ( :( ), but I wish you luck.\

~Czardas, Supreme Ruler of the Universe

Thanks for the help Ariddia. I'll look and see what countries sound interesting.

~Czardas, Supreme Ruler of the Universe

No problem. :)

Oh, by the way, the Lonely Planet website will tell you about all countries, even those which are not sovereign (but are dependencies of others). All recognised sovereign nations are UN members, with the sole exception of the Holy See. You'll find a full list of UN members here (http://www.un.org/Overview/unmember.html). My bad; there are actually 191, not 192.

Perhaps if we could get 5 or 6 people to represent maybe 2-3 countries each, then we could just do something on here or on the NS thread. Possibly look at some of the recent resolutions that are in the actual UN to debate while groups get together to write up new ones.

Well, I'm willing to represent even the six countries I listed above, until more people join us. If asked to pick three, I'll be France, Cuba and Tuvalu.

I'll start looking into rules for such a roleplay. If anyone is interested, please post what country or countries you would be willing to support. In choosing your country or countries, please keep in mind that you will be representing their views and will be researching what their stance would be on any issue proposed. I think we should place a cap of 3 countries maximum so that noone can control enough countries to pass resolutions whenever they choose.

I think the best course of action would be to start with the General Assembly only and then, if things take off, possibly branch off into Security Council and committees.

I am somewhat busy as well so any help is appreciated in getting this together would be appreciated.

Regarding rules, we could keep it fairly simple. We'd need a forum, where we could discuss issues, representing our chosen nations. Such discussions would have to be very formal, as befits official diplomatic discussions. ;)

We could even have three different forum sections:

* speeches, where one nation's representative addresses the Assembly. Other nations may request the right to reply, and would have to wait for [someone] to recognise them and give them the right to reply.

* formal discussions

* informal discussions, where delegates would meet "in private" if they wished to discuss and negotiate matters "off the record", as it were.

After formal discussions on an issue, there would be a vote. We also have to see about passing resolutions. I don't know how it works in real life, but we could have a nation submit a resolution proposal, and everyone discuss it, and perhaps suggest modifications, before it's voted on.

As I pointed out, there is a website that has attempted this before and I was considering using their guidelines but modifying them to our interests. Timeframes and roles could be altered as there won't be many people to start. Here's the procedures from that site as they could pertain to this:

WORKING PAPERS AND RESOLUTIONS:

* Resolutions should consider problems in the 'real world' -- taking everything of which delegates are aware into account, and envisioning the delegates' best idea of what should be done about the problem.

* GA: A resolution MUST first pass through the Lobbying Area as a Working Paper before it can be debated in the General Assembly.

* Working Papers must be submitted to the Lobby Area Moderator for inclusion on the Working Papers Bulletin Board.

* Working papers should be discussed in the Lobbying Area. A working paper must have been placed on the Working Papers Bulletin Board and have been discussed for at least a week before being submitted to the General Assembly. This process is used to encourage the improvement of papers that have been submitted even before they reach the GA.

* To qualify as a resolution for the General Assembly a Working Paper must obtain a total of FIVE signatures, including that of the original sponsor.

* Working Papers which have qualified must then be submitted to the GA President for inclusion on the GA Agenda. The sponsor(s) of the Working Paper must also email the Lobby Area Moderator as notification that the paper has been sent to the GA President.

* A resolution that has been submitted will be added as the next item for discussion on the Agenda. If there is more than one item pending, the Chair may use his/her discretion to decide which item is debated next OR whether to hold an Agenda Item Vote to allow delegates to decide.




OPEN TOPIC DISCUSSIONS:

* If there are no items pending for discussion the Chair, or a delegate, may submit a motion to the Chair asking for an 'Open Discussion' on a specific topic (possibly leading up to the drafting of a resolution).

* The Chair may at his/her discretion decide to set the Agenda of his/her caucus area to a topic of choice.




AMENDMENTS:

* Amendments to resolutions must be e-mailed to both the Chair AND the Sponsor(s) of the resolution.

* The sponsor(s) must then inform the Chair (and the proposition of the amendment) whether the amendment is 'friendly' or 'unfriendly'.

* Friendly amendments are included into a resolution automatically.

* Amendments marked as Unfriendly require THREE signatories (inclusive of sponsor) to qualify for a vote. Unfriendly amendments proceed to a vote (if qualified) when the debate/submission of amendments deadline is reached. Amendments which pass the vote are included into the resolution.

* Amendments must be emailed to the sponsor(s) and the Chair within the deadline for debate/submission of amendments. Amendments submitted after this time cannot be accepted.

* The sponsor(s) is/are allowed an additional THREE days after the debate/submission of amendments deadline to review all the amendments that have been submitted. They MUST inform the Chair which amendments are friendly and which are unfriendly by the end of this time.




MOTIONS:

* Motions must be submitted to the Chair of the committee.

* The Chair will rule the motion in or out of order: if a motion is ruled in order the Chair will post the motion on the caucus page and call for seconding/opposition.

* If there is no seconding the motion automatically fails. If there is seconding but no opposition the motion automatically passes. If there is both seconding and opposition then a vote on the motion will take place.



COURSE OF DEBATE AND TIMINGS:

* All timings for the course of debate are at the discretion of the Chair. Recommended/usual timings are included in brackets for information purposes.

* GA: Working paper is introduced to Lobby Area via Lobby Area Moderator and the Working Papers Bulletin Board.

* GA: Qualified working paper introduced to GA via CA President.

* Debate on resolution and amendments, and inclusion of friendly amendments (2 weeks)

* Voting on unfriendly amendments (1 week)

* Debate on modified resolution (if unfriendly amendments pass) (4 days)

* Voting on Final Resolution (1 week)


VOTING AND QUORUM CALLS:

* Voting on a resolution is done by simple majority unless a Motion to Make an Important Question is passed in which case a 2/3 majority is required for a resolution to secure passage.

* Voting on a resolution is compulsory and constitutes a Quorum Call (participation check). Observers are required to post 'Observer Present' as a follow-up to a Vote Call to register a 'present' in the Quorum.

* The number of missed quorum calls needed before a delegate is removed is posted for the GA on the Participants Page and for the SC are at the discretion of the chair. From time to time the Staff and Secretariat will also use their discretion on removals, based on the number of missed quorums, time of registration and activity in forums.

* Delegates who are aware they may be absent during a vote are asked to contact the relevant Chair to register a Leave of Absence. They will therefore be exempt from the Quorum Call for the duration of their absence.

Hmm... Seems a tad complicated. What did you think of my suggestions above? ;)

Hmm... Seems a tad complicated. What did you think of my suggestions above? ;)

Well what you said is similar to what I posted, just what I posted it more structured.

To simplify what I posted, basically what happens is this:

1) Delegate proposes a working paper on a board and debated, being able to be modified at the sponsor (aka the person who wrote it) discretion based on the informal debate. In order to qualify as a resolution, a working paper must have 5 co-sponsors. When it gets those signatures in its final form, it's submitted to the GA chair to be added to the agenda. It is the chair's say as to the order of the agenda.
2) Once a working paper becomes a resolution and gets added to the agenda, it is pending until matters above it have been taken care of. When its time comes up, there will be debate on the topic and the ability to amend the resolution. A "Friendly" Amendment is one that the the sponsor agrees with. This kind of amendment is automatically added to the resolution. An "Unfriendly" amendment is one that the sponsor deems counterproductive to their original proposal. The person that proposes the amendment needs 3 cosponsors to qualify for vote. If they get them, then a simple majority will add the amendment to the resolution. If they don't, the amendment loses and isn't added.
3) After a healthy debate and amendments, a member or the chair can motion for a vote. If the motion passes, the resolution will be voted on. Simple majority makes the resolution pass. There are instances where a resolution can be deemed "Important" in which case a 2/3 majority is needed.

I know it's a bit more complex but the point is to take on the roles of UN delegates in the manner that they do business.

I know it's a bit more complex but the point is to take on the roles of UN delegates in the manner that they do business.

True, and that sounds fine. Though I still suggest we have seperate fora for formal and informal/off-the-record discussions.

True, and that sounds fine. Though I still suggest we have seperate fora for formal and informal/off-the-record discussions.

Of course. There could be a OOC forum of some kind. do you have any suggestions of sites with good, free boards? I'll start something up and start posting guidelines and such. Good to have something up before we start promoting.

Hmmm...Ok, I've checked the site. I'll represent Greece if possible. Is it yet taken? (On NS I represent Cosmos, but... ;))

~Czardas, Supreme Ruler of the Universe

Count me in. I'll take any Middle Eastern nation, DPRK, or China. Actually... ooh ooh! Could I be the Sudan? Please?
Of course. There could be a OOC forum of some kind. do you have any suggestions of sites with good, free boards? I'll start something up and start posting guidelines and such. Good to have something up before we start promoting.
Invision usually has excellent boards.

I started boards at EZboards.com

http://p097.ezboard.com/bunitednationsonline

This is my preliminary set up. More boards will be added as needed. Go into the Nation Profiles section and sign up for what nation or nations you would like to represent. Thanks!

I started boards at EZboards.com

http://p097.ezboard.com/bunitednationsonline

This is my preliminary set up. More boards will be added as needed. Go into the Nation Profiles section and sign up for what nation or nations you would like to represent. Thanks!I don't have time now, but save Greece or Israel for me please. :)

~Czardas, Supreme Ruler of the Universe

*checks watch*

Actually, forget that. I do have some time. Sorry!

~Czardas, Supreme Ruler of the Universe

I started boards at EZboards.com

http://p097.ezboard.com/bunitednationsonline

This is my preliminary set up. More boards will be added as needed. Go into the Nation Profiles section and sign up for what nation or nations you would like to represent. Thanks!

Done. I've signed up as France, Cuba and Tuvalu. If ever you have too few people joining, I don't mind playing also ROK (South Korea), DPRK (North Korea) and San Marino. (In votes, I would obviously consider the position of each nation, and not have them all vote together.)

I am also taking suggestions as to other places to promote this site. We may be able to pull 5-10 people from here. If you are a part of other organizations of people that may be interested in joining, let me know or just post on that site.

Besides here, I don't know where else to go. suggestions are appreciated.

seems interesting, I call Russia, Jordan, and Canada

I signed up and called Canada before reading your post Kyleralia. Sorry.

I'm the UAE, Djibouti, and Canada.

Please goto the EZ Boards and submit a profile. That is the official way of claiming a country. Read the Instructions and feel free to start a working paper as I formalize the rules.

If anyone else is interested, click the link below to get to the boards. Hope to hear from you!

http://p097.ezboard.com/bunitednationsonline

I was wondering if anyone knows of a good site that does United Nations style roleplaying.
- you're looking at it, most probably.

- you're looking at it, most probably.

I would tend to disagree. None of the procedures of the UN are taken into account nor are any of the actual nations. That wouldn't represent an accurate roleplay. The site that I'm in the process of creating will more accuratley depict what happens, using real nations and procedures. I hope you'll check it out!