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Do you think that the United States is going into another period of near McCarthyism? Even my parents, one of which is a Southern Baptist pastor, thinks that these rules could be done without. Who in the hell decided that Congress had to make a new law every day? I thought they were supposed to be smart, and it seems to me we are putting people in there that were snobby upperclass bullies in high school. I'd love to hear what some of their former classmates have to say about them.

We now have states trying harder than ever before to ban evolution from being taught in schools. To have police be able to tazer kids for just a temper tantrum. WTF is going on here? When most of America is looking at CSPAN and wishing the senators would stop embarrasing them, something is wrong I think.

I'm starting to think that Congress has gone NUTS!

Also, I have heard that the decency laws for TV may soon be on their way back. Congress, both sides of the aisle talk about limiting violence in movies....

This is a free country?

Yeah The Beatles!!!

Yeah The Beatles!!!


Wouldn't that be NeoLennonism?

Wouldn't that be NeoLennonism?
Ah.... John Lennon...

Ah.... John Lennon...

The Beatles are sissies. We need some Jaggerism.

The Beatles are sissies. We need some Jaggerism.

They all suck! Bring in the Wagner.

Ah.... John Lennon...

He sucks.

No matter how the liberal bitch about it, America is too free in my opinion, or at least compared to to the big C (China). When things have gone too far, it is instinctive to pull back the reigns.

As for banning evolution from schools, in 20 years, America will say bye-bye to her scientific reputation. I hate fundies!

No matter how the liberal bitch about it, America is too free in my opinion, or at least compared to to the big C (China). When things have gone too far, it is instinctive to pull back the reigns.

Yes, and remember that last time this happened was the mid 60s. The US became so liberal after that, that it would have suprised even me!

I can feel the rope tightening around our throats...

Galloway thought so...

"I am not now, nor have i ever been..."

The Beatles are sissies. We need some Jaggerism.
I prefer Morrisonism or Boweism.

Yes, and remember that last time this happened was the mid 60s. The US became so liberal after that, that it would have suprised even me!

what i've noticed looking at history is that these things do go in waves, generally speaking, severe conservativism followed by severe liberalism followed by severe conservatism etc., ad infiniti... so i guess that i would say we are in a period of conservatism following the more liberal times of the "Clinton era" & eventually it will turn back around.

i hope.

We've certainly entered a new era of endless liberal whining.

Start paying attention and maybe you'll learn something. There's a very leftist caused reason cops are called into schools to deal with these out of control children. It's because white teachers are scared to death to discipline minority children because no matter what the kid is doing Jesse Jackson will be there within the hour suing the "racist school district" into ruin. They've been left with no choice but to hand off the risk to law enforcement.

No system is perfect, and each side is wrong in some way.

We aren't being oppressed because they don't say fuck on TV. They should let us, but it's not oppression. When the US starts rounding up citizens by the ten-thousands into joycamps, then you can call it oppression. Otherwise, if you're being so oppressed (I feel bad, I really do!), you wouldn't be typing here as a political discussion foreign would need to be filtered out by a governmental server.

what i've noticed looking at history is that these things do go in waves, generally speaking, severe conservativism followed by severe liberalism followed by severe conservatism etc., ad infiniti... so i guess that i would say we are in a period of conservatism following the more liberal times of the "Clinton era" & eventually it will turn back around.

i hope.

America is always liberal by Asian standards. I don't really regard Clinton as being liberal at all (apart from what he got from beneath the desk). I may be a conservative, but I prefer Clinton over Bush any day.

No one every said we were being oppressed right now (I think, and if they did, reality check), but maybe that we're getting to it.

We aren't being oppressed because they don't say fuck on TV.

I'm not a fan of the 'F' word, but all thanks to Jackson and Timberlake, Saving Private Ryan didn't get aired on the last Veteran's Day. That pissed me off.

America is always liberal by Asian standards.
This isn't Asia thankfully, and neither is it Soviet Russia under Stalin. By the Soviet standard, almost every country is extremely liberal (except for the ones ruled by dictators).

Do you think that the United States is going into another period of near McCarthyism? Even my parents, one of which is a Southern Baptist pastor, thinks that these rules could be done without. Who in the hell decided that Congress had to make a new law every day? I thought they were supposed to be smart, and it seems to me we are putting people in there that were snobby upperclass bullies in high school. I'd love to hear what some of their former classmates have to say about them.

We now have states trying harder than ever before to ban evolution from being taught in schools. To have police be able to tazer kids for just a temper tantrum. WTF is going on here? When most of America is looking at CSPAN and wishing the senators would stop embarrasing them, something is wrong I think.

I'm starting to think that Congress has gone NUTS!

Also, I have heard that the decency laws for TV may soon be on their way back. Congress, both sides of the aisle talk about limiting violence in movies....

This is a free country?

What does this have to do with McCarthyism (egregious political opportunism)? I thought this was going to be about American politicians taking advantage of our fear of terrorism like Joe McCarthy took advantage of our fear of Communism.

We've certainly entered a new era of endless liberal whining.

Start paying attention and maybe you'll learn something. There's a very leftist caused reason cops are called into schools to deal with these out of control children. It's because white teachers are scared to death to discipline minority children because no matter what the kid is doing Jesse Jackson will be there within the hour suing the "racist school district" into ruin. They've been left with no choice but to hand off the risk to law enforcement.

I do see some sense in these policies but what about teaching fundamentalist bullshit in schools instead of evolution? What's going to happen to America's scientific reputation? The U.S. education system is already FUBAR.

What does this have to do with McCarthyism (egregious political opportunism)? I thought this was going to be about American politicians taking advantage of our fear of terrorism like Joe McCarthy took advantage of our fear of Communism.

Maybe this 'neo-McCarthyism' refers to a fear of being attacked by groups like al Queda. LOL! Don't forget, vigilance is the price of nationhood.

It's our fault it evolved anyway, we made that enemy

Do you think that the United States is going into another period of near McCarthyism? Even my parents, one of which is a Southern Baptist pastor, thinks that these rules could be done without. Who in the hell decided that Congress had to make a new law every day? I thought they were supposed to be smart, and it seems to me we are putting people in there that were snobby upperclass bullies in high school. I'd love to hear what some of their former classmates have to say about them.

We now have states trying harder than ever before to ban evolution from being taught in schools. To have police be able to tazer kids for just a temper tantrum. WTF is going on here? When most of America is looking at CSPAN and wishing the senators would stop embarrasing them, something is wrong I think.

I'm starting to think that Congress has gone NUTS!

Also, I have heard that the decency laws for TV may soon be on their way back. Congress, both sides of the aisle talk about limiting violence in movies....

This is a free country?
Yes, it is. And the next time you see a veteran, thank him or her.

After rereading your post, I'm not entirely sure I understand what your complaint is. Almost without exception, congressmen and senators vote the way they think their constituents want them to. If they don't, they usually turn out to be "one-term wonders."

What it sounds like to me is that your complaint isn't so much with politicians as it is with the electorate. If who the people elect bother you so much, take steps to change it: vote ( if you're old enough ), campaign for who you would like to see in office, or any of the several hundred other things you are guaranteed to be able to do under the Constitution.

BTW ... I was alive during the McCarthy era and things are nothing like that now!

What does this have to do with McCarthyism (egregious political opportunism)? I thought this was going to be about American politicians taking advantage of our fear of terrorism like Joe McCarthy took advantage of our fear of Communism.

Think Hollywood Blacklist. Senators talking about the latest movie trying to downplay Christianity or trying to enforce a homosexual agenda.

The forced abstinence-only education. Shouldn't parents have a choice about what their kid learns? Couldn't there be 2 classes?

The overfunded war on drugs.... They have a law now that says if you hang around a place that sells drugs or someone that does drugs, you can be arrested.

Yes, it is. And the next time you see a veteran, thank him or her.

After rereading your post, I'm not entirely sure I understand what your complaint is. Almost without exception, congressmen and senators vote the way they think their constituents want them to. If they don't, they usually turn out to be "one-term wonders."

What it sounds like to me is that your complaint isn't so much with politicians as it is with the electorate. If who the people elect bother you so much, take steps to change it: vote ( if you're old enough ), campaign for who you would like to see in office, or any of the several hundred other things you are guaranteed to be able to do under the Constitution.

BTW ... I was alive during the McCarthy era and things are nothing like that now!

My grandfather fought in WW2, and I did thank him before he died. I'm 19. Voted Libertarian in the last election cause I didn't like either choice and am a small l libertarian.

You're from North Carolina too. How can you say that someone like Jesse Helms was what the NC people wanted? Or John Edwards? I mean they were both off center when most of NC seems pretty center. Jesse won because NC wanted it? I see NC as more liberal than say, most of Virginia and South Carolina. I think it's mainly due to more old people voting.

I did try to get people to vote Libertarian last time and succeeded with 2 people, but I lived in VA until a few months ago. It's hopeless to get people to go your way when they are scared to vote 3rd party.

I dunno where you're from, but the "McCarthyism" has remained at a constant high in Alabama for a long, long time.

Think Hollywood Blacklist. Senators talking about the latest movie trying to downplay Christianity or trying to enforce a homosexual agenda.

The forced abstinence-only education. Shouldn't parents have a choice about what their kid learns? Couldn't there be 2 classes?

The overfunded war on drugs.... They have a law now that says if you hang around a place that sells drugs or someone that does drugs, you can be arrested.

To some extent parents do have a choice. I've had a few talks with my child about what he's learned in school and had to set him straight on a some things. And for most people there's other options such as home and private schooling. The real question in my mind is why do schools have to teach those classes? Why aren't enough parents doing it themselves.

My grandfather fought in WW2, and I did thank him before he died. I'm 19. Voted Libertarian in the last election cause I didn't like either choice and am a small l libertarian.

You're from North Carolina too. How can you say that someone like Jesse Helms was what the NC people wanted? Or John Edwards? I mean they were both off center when most of NC seems pretty center. Jesse won because NC wanted it? I see NC as more liberal than say, most of Virginia and South Carolina. I think it's mainly due to more old people voting.

I did try to get people to vote Libertarian last time and succeeded with 2 people, but I lived in VA until a few months ago. It's hopeless to get people to go your way when they are scared to vote 3rd party.
What on earth makes you say that people are "scared" to vote for a third party? I voted for a third party a few years back and didn't think twice about it. I would love to see your supporting evidence.

I didn't vote for either Jesse Helms or John Edwards. That does not mean, however, that most voters didn't want them elected. NC is a bit closer to the center than say, South Carolina, but here even Democrats say they are "conservative."

I'm impressed that you thanked your grandfather for his service. I suspect he appreciated that far more than you know. :)

Why aren't enough parents doing it themselves.

That's a good question. I know when I have kids, I'm not gonna let the school teach it to em. Besides, by the time the school starts, most of em know more about sex than the teacher does. All the teacher does is show em pics of diseased penises and labias. Gross really. I don't wanna expose a kid to that.

I'd start telling them about stuff when they turn 8, and more and more as they grow. At age 12, I'd start talking about safe sex, cause I really don't have a problem with teens having sex as long as they are safe about it.

ahh.... the new conservative battle-cry - Liberal bitching. It's so refreshing. I mean, without these buzzwords, people might be discussing these issues freely. But I mean it's a great trick - people on the fence might hear something about our freedoms slowly being taken away, then whip out the battle-cry! Nothing better. Sidenote here - you ALWAYS without a doubt support disturbing levels of militarism with some variation of the phrase - the price of freedom is eternal vigilance... yet when it comes to the real threat to freedom, the internal ones, it's 'liberal bitching' to be vigilant. Take a step back and look at the glaring hipocracy. Please.

Is this a free country? Yes it is. Is it free enough? No. Especially not nowadays, though never in its history has it been free enough. It's always been some form of oppression, some more subtle than others. This fact is true in most countries.

And McCarthism isn't dead. What do people call you to insult you when you disagree with the US? A communist. Go around telling people you're a communist - you'll see. Trust me. Being a Democratic Socialist myself (most USers cant tell the difference, or at least make no attempt), I KNOW McCarthyism isn't dead... at least not among the citizenry, though the government is largely free of open mcarthyism. But the fear of the left never left the hearts of a majority of Americans.

What on earth makes you say that people are "scared" to vote for a third party? I voted for a third party a few years back and didn't think twice about it. I would love to see your supporting evidence.

I didn't vote for either Jesse Helms or John Edwards. That does not mean, however, that most voters didn't want them elected. NC is a bit closer to the center than say, South Carolina, but here even Democrats say they are "conservative."

I'm impressed that you thanked your grandfather for his service. I suspect he appreciated that far more than you know. :)

I said people are scared, because when I asked them why they wouldn't vote for anyone except a Dem. or Rep., they said it was throwing away their vote. I can see the logic in that, but I'd rather vote for someone i agree with than a lesser of two evils.

I wasn't a citizen of NC when either Helms or Edwards got elected. I lived in rural Virginia (horrid place.... Lots of people saying "******" and "faggot about people). I have always had family in NC though, and I came here often. It always seemed more open here than VA did. And this was southern Charlotte and the Outer Banks. Mainly conservative places. I moved to Wilmington a few months ago and love it here. Quite culturally tolerant for a small city, especially in a southern state. If you wanna see what I DON'T like, go to Richmond, VA or Lynchburg, VA. As for most Dems being conservative here.... the state senator from my area is the first openly lesbian one in the state. I don't like her that much due to her bill to keep violent video games away from minors, but it is a cool thing I think.

I thanked my grandfather after we learned about WWII in History, btw. He's dead now though.

ahh.... the new conservative battle-cry - Liberal bitching. It's so refreshing. I mean, without these buzzwords, people might be discussing these issues freely.

And it would really be sad if we "war monger" "extremist" "corporate whore" "fundamentalist" "neocons" used a buzzword to beat the same dead horse from the mid 60's clear to this thread wouldn't it? Anti-pot laws, McCarthyism! Holding people accountable for their actions, McCarthyism! Impeaching someone because they commit perjury before a federal grand jury, McCarthyism! Calling us out for the whiny sore losers we are after losing every congressional election since 1995, McCarthyism! Questioning a president for launching hundreds of cruise missiles at a middle eastern nation that's apparently pure as the wind driven snow in order to take media attention off his latest sex scandal, McCarthyism!

Just gotta love those buzzwords.

And it would really be sad if we "war monger" "extremist" "corporate whore" "fundamentalist" "neocons" used a buzzword to beat the same dead horse from the mid 60's clear to this thread wouldn't it? Anti-pot laws, McCarthyism! Holding people accountable for their actions, McCarthyism! Impeaching someone because they commit perjury before a federal grand jury, McCarthyism! Calling us out for the whiny sore losers we are after losing every congressional election since 1995, McCarthyism! Questioning a president for launching hundreds of cruise missiles at a middle eastern nation that's apparently pure as the wind driven snow in order to take media attention off his latest sex scandal, McCarthyism!

Just gotta love those buzzwords.

You forgot "homosexual agenda", "liberal Hollywood", "liberal media", "peacemongers", "godless", "moral-less", "slacker", "insult to America", and "culture of death". More conservative buzzwords.

Off topic a bit but I love the term "corporate whore". But then I'm a fan of whores and corporations both.

On topic a bit, but seems to that Political Correctness is just as bad as fundies speaking their minds. I know words hurt but could some one please explain to me what's wrong with the word handicap? Or for that matter blacks or fag? I feel dirty for typing the word fag, but now I hear kids and adults alike using the word gay as an insult. Changing words has not changed attitudes. But it seems to cause decent a good deal of discomfort trying not to offend anyone without censoring themselves.

was it something i said?

We've certainly entered a new era of endless liberal whining.

Start paying attention and maybe you'll learn something. There's a very leftist caused reason cops are called into schools to deal with these out of control children. It's because white teachers are scared to death to discipline minority children because no matter what the kid is doing Jesse Jackson will be there within the hour suing the "racist school district" into ruin. They've been left with no choice but to hand off the risk to law enforcement.

:rolleyes: And there are absolutely nooooooooooooooooooo disciplinary problems with white schoolchildren...

:rolleyes: And there are absolutely nooooooooooooooooooo disciplinary problems with white schoolchildren...
You have a very valid point. A point that doesn't change the fact that Jesse Jackson would show up for the African American students.

There's a very leftist caused reason cops are called into schools to deal with these out of control children. It's because white teachers are scared to death to discipline minority children because no matter what the kid is doing Jesse Jackson will be there within the hour suing the "racist school district" into ruin. They've been left with no choice but to hand off the risk to law enforcement.

Or, how about we actually tackle the problem from the roots up, that is, of course, as long as it's not going to be too mentally trying for you rightwingers...

Since the days of slave emancipation, minority education, economic opportunities and living conditions have been sub par at best. Flash forward 200 years along these lines of depressed conditions, and one shouldn't be surprised in the least to find that the bulk of minorities are poor, which in turn leads to criminality and a crassness that isn't normally found in those who have had the opportunity to attend the best schools, procure the best jobs, and command the highest standard of living.

If you're mad about the unruly nature of inner city schools, you have none other than your own greedy white ancestors to thank for it. They felt that there was no reason to invest socially or finacially in minority neighborhoods, and this is what you get when you take that course of action.

Of course, it's just so much easier to be a little rightwing whiner and continue to blame the victim ad infinitum...no deep thought required, just the way the rightwing likes it.

You have a very valid point. A point that doesn't change the fact that Jesse Jackson would show up for the African American students.

I sincerely doubt that Jesse Jackson would have time to grandstand/troll for every African-American student who happened to be disciplined in the nation.

But, when it's convienent for him, he'll do it. I should know because I live in Chicago and teh media of d00m gives him the top story slot every other day. He has usurped the civil rights movement for his own ends imho.:headbang:

But using one person (Jesse Jackson) to cry OMG Leftist Conspiracy!!!11!! as Northern Fox did is a bit much.

You have a very valid point. A point that doesn't change the fact that Jesse Jackson would show up for the African American students.

Everyone else has the ACLU if there's a valid claim.

Jessie Jackson is out to stop RACIST things. Does he overguess? Yes. Is he right sometimes? Also yes.

Remember, the wealth is still in the "Anglo" groups. We have LAWYERS.

Do you have any idea how screwed the average gang banger (of ANY race) would be if they were so much as suspected of touching me? Heck, I grew up with a lawyer for a neighbor.

Do you have any idea how screwed the average gang banger (of ANY race) would be if they were so much as suspected of touching me? Heck, I grew up with a lawyer for a neighbor.
I don't think a lawyer will do you much good if the aforementioned gangbanger shot you in the face.

Just a guess.

I don't think a lawyer will do you much good if the aforementioned gangbanger shot you in the face.

Just a guess.

Because Jessie Jackson could do any better....?

Because Jessie Jackson could do any better....?
Jesse Jackson is a race-baiting hack. Al Sharpton is no better.

Jesse Jackson is a race-baiting hack. Al Sharpton is no better.

Agreed.

Anyone who recognizes race as a valid identifier is a twit.

I fail to see how this does anything to support the garbage about the liberals.

Jesse Jackson is a race-baiting hack. Al Sharpton is no better.

Really? Based on what informaiton? Have you ever listened to what Sharpton has had to say? How many of his speeches have you heard? How many programs that he's proposed have you studied?

I'm curious, how much do you know about his career? To make such a judgement call on the man as a simple race-baiting hack...you must have considerable experience with the man and his policies and statements.

Or you could just be spewing domagmatic assertions without any regard for fact or fiction, so long as its politically convenient for you. But you wouldn't do that, would you? You're not a political dog, you're a reasonable person.

In my moments of extreme pride and arrogance, I think of myself as a reasonable induvidual. Do you actually have info on this subject, because if you do I'd love to hear it.

Everyone else has the ACLU if there's a valid claim.

Jessie Jackson is out to stop RACIST things. Does he overguess? Yes. Is he right sometimes? Also yes.

Remember, the wealth is still in the "Anglo" groups. 1We have LAWYERS.

Do you have any idea how screwed the average gang banger 2(of ANY race) would be if they were so much as suspected of touching me? Heck, I grew up with a lawyer for a neighbor.
1 What's this we crap? 2 That seems about right to me, of any race makes sense. Personally I grew up with drug dealers for neighbors.
I might be wrong but I'm under the impression that the ACLU isn't anti minorities. And does charity cases. That aside I'm fully aware that race relations are imperfect. But let's not pretend that the racism doesn't go both ways. I'll do have to admit though I was being touchy and over reacted. Evil Woody Thoughts didn't deserve to be snapped at like that. I'm sorry.

I'll do have to admit though I was being touchy and over reacted. Evil Woody Thoughts didn't deserve to be snapped at like that. I'm sorry.

When did I get snapped at? I've been desensitized to this sort of thing by the NS forums :D

When did I get snapped at? I've been desensitized to this sort of thing by the NS forums :D
Mostly it was in the back of my mind. But I've been told I'm caustic. So even when I'm being mean I try to be nice about it. ;)

Really? Based on what informaiton? Have you ever listened to what Sharpton has had to say? How many of his speeches have you heard? How many programs that he's proposed have you studied?

I'm curious, how much do you know about his career? To make such a judgement call on the man as a simple race-baiting hack...you must have considerable experience with the man and his policies and statements.

Or you could just be spewing domagmatic assertions without any regard for fact or fiction, so long as its politically convenient for you. But you wouldn't do that, would you? You're not a political dog, you're a reasonable person.

In my moments of extreme pride and arrogance, I think of myself as a reasonable induvidual. Do you actually have info on this subject, because if you do I'd love to hear it.
A short history of Sharpton antics:
Sharpton made his name and his fame as the one to lead a protest movement after every racially charged incident in New York over the last 30 years (and many elsewhere in the U.S.) Especially early in his career, he seemed content and even eager to inflame racial hatreds at the risk of violence, as long as it gave him publicity and power.

Several of these protests escalated to the point of violence, in several cases by those who Sharpton championed. Examples include the Crown Heights riot of 1991, and a 1995 arson attack on a Jewish Harlem jeweler that resulted in 8 deaths. That attack came months after Sharpton made remarks about the "white interloper". (He later apologized, saying that he wouldn't use the word white again in that context.)

In 1987, black teenager Tawana Brawley claimed that six white law enforcement officers -- including then-assistant district attorney Steven Pagones -- had abducted and raped her, scrawled racial insults on her body and smeared her with feces.

Miss Brawley refused to speak with authorities or the media, but Sharpton and her two other advisers were soon making wild claims. Sharpton compared then-state Attorney General Robert Abrams, a Jew, to Adolf Hitler. All three linked then-Gov. Mario Cuomo to organized crime and the Ku Klux Klan.

Within a year, a grand jury announced the story was a hoax and specifically cleared a Fishkill police officer and Pagones. Pagones sued Sharpton and the other 2 advisers for more than $150 million for defamation.

What I find amusing is that during the Clinton terms, I saw people not promoted, fired, or pushed out of civilian jobs because they were not politically correct - vis a vis the ideas that the Democratic Party was pushing.

I didn't hear any Democrats cry that this was a new McCarthyism - even though I saw that it very clearly was.

Now that the meaning of "politically correct" has shifted, they seem to be a bit upset.

May I remind you that although McCarthy was wrong, the previous hearings on Alger Hiss under investigation by Nixon were completely correct.

What I find amusing is that during the Clinton terms, I saw people not promoted, fired, or pushed out of civilian jobs because they were not politically correct - vis a vis the ideas that the Democratic Party was pushing.

I didn't hear any Democrats cry that this was a new McCarthyism - even though I saw that it very clearly was.

I never said the Democratic party didn't have it's faults. They've gone too far into populism, as has the Republican party. It's all about control, which is what bothers me. Only people I even like in Congress are Ron Paul (R-TX) and Herbert Kohl (D-WI)..... I mainly agree more with governors.... like Mike Easley (D-NC), Mark Warner (D-VA), and "Ahnold" (R-CA).

They aren't as populist as some. Ron Paul is my hero.

The forced abstinence-only education. Shouldn't parents have a choice about what their kid learns? Couldn't there be 2 classes?


I don't know if parents should have that choice. I believe children should be taught the truth. If we teach abstinence-only and sex ed, then certain kids will be taught lies. Same with ID creationism and evolution. Then, there'll be people wanting to teach their bizarre form of mathematics. 2+2 will equal 4 for some people and 5 for others. Our society cannot function if people live in different fact universes, which we may be headed to. Sometimes I think we're already there when I watch certain debate shows, but I've held out hope. Everything else I pretty much agree with, though, but we mus'n't have an appeasement policy when it comes to something as serious as education.

No matter how the liberal bitch about it, America is too free in my opinion, or at least compared to to the big C (China). When things have gone too far, it is instinctive to pull back the reigns.
You think that the US should model itself on the PRC?

I prefer Morrisonism or Boweism.
I prefer Morriseyism!

so i guess that i would say we are in a period of conservatism following the more liberal times of the "Clinton era" & eventually it will turn back around.
Clinton was conservative generally. He was just there to ease you into the Bush era of über-conservatism.

You think that the US should model itself on the PRC?

I'm not particularly in favor of the PRC model either (too corrupt), but if some compromise can be made then there should be the best of both worlds. However, that is unlikely, as the Chinese will continue to wallow in government dominance and the Americans were born to bitch. If I'm 'Aryan', then I wouldn't mind living under Hitler (unless he stops persecuting the Jews). I'm increasingly losing faith in democracy, since there are different problems and more madness. I personally prefer a benevolent dictatorship, like Singapore. Good dictatorship over bad democracy by all means!

At least in China, they don't dismiss the simple facts of evolution!

I may be against all the fundies (they should be gassed) that are taking over the U.S. education system, but teaching abstinence is necessary to prevent the increasing liberalization and general coarsening of society. What the hell happened to sexual morals? If you want to marry a virgin in a Western country, you'll have to marry a 10-year-old!

Clinton was conservative generally. He was just there to ease you into the Bush era of über-conservatism.

If Clinton is considered conservative and sensible, then Bush is just sh*t nuts! I liked Clinton, at least there was an economic boom and America wasn't as hated. If I'm an American, I'd probably be a palaeo-conservative, although I strongly support a strong central government with one set of law for all, instead of the thousands of mini kingdoms spread across the 'Union'.

Extremism washs away rational thinking. Bush's 'conservatism' is an example of Republican policies gone rampant. They should blame the fundies for not opening up to basic principles of science and the liberals for their actions, resulting in the current reactions.

They all suck! Bring in the Wagner.
i know im late but whatever:

WAGNER ACT!!!!!!! WAGNER ACT!!!!!! WAGNER ACT!!!!!!!

Clinton was conservative generally.


You don't have the first clue what your talking about do you.
A: You were too young to know what was happening when Clinton was in power.
B: All you had for information was the CCCP-BBC.
C: You'd have to be completely disconnected from reality to call Clinton conservative.

Why do you continue your fallacy of "centrism". You're a leftist to the core. It's what you believe in so why be ashamed of it? I'm a conservative and wear the label proudly. I freely admit my bias, why can't you?

You don't have the first clue what your talking about do you.
A: You were too young to know what was happening when Clinton was in power.
B: All you had for information was the CCCP-BBC.
C: You'd have to be completely disconnected from reality to call Clinton conservative.

Why do you continue your fallacy of "centrism". You're a leftist to the core. It's what you believe in so why be ashamed of it? I'm a conservative and wear the label proudly. I freely admit my bias, why can't you?

The American political spectrum is well to the right of the rest of the industrialized world. Most "leftists" here would be considered centrists outside of the country.

What an insular world you live in...*sigh*

I'm not particularly in favor of the PRC model either (too corrupt), but if some compromise can be made then there should be the best of both worlds. However, that is unlikely, as the Chinese will continue to wallow in government dominance and the Americans were born to bitch. If I'm 'Aryan', then I wouldn't mind living under Hitler (unless he stops persecuting the Jews). I'm increasingly losing faith in democracy, since there are different problems and more madness. I personally prefer a benevolent dictatorship, like Singapore. Good dictatorship over bad democracy by all means!

In Singapore they cane you for chewing gum. I would like that, but I doubt that many others would.

I may be against all the fundies (they should be gassed) that are taking over the U.S. education system, but teaching abstinence is necessary to prevent the increasing liberalization and general coarsening of society. What the hell happened to sexual morals? If you want to marry a virgin in a Western country, you'll have to marry a 10-year-old!
It's not teaching abstinance that annoys us (although the emphasis on marriage, rather than say a long term relationship, erks the non-religious) It's refusing to teach anything about sex, and spreading lies about contraceptives, and generally saying "sex is dirty, don't ever do it outside of marriage! You will die if you have sex" that is abstinance only education. That is what steams us.

As for banning evolution from schools, in 20 years, America will say bye-bye to her scientific reputation. I hate fundies!

haha, You think that humanity is still going to be alive in 20 years. How amusing. Everyone with half a brain can tell that the a nuclear war will be started in just a few years, and the survivors of that are all going out in the following nuclear winter.

haha, You think that humanity is still going to be alive in 20 years. How amusing. Everyone with half a brain can tell that the a nuclear war will be started in just a few years, and the survivors of that are all going out in the following nuclear winter.

The Cold War's over, but it's good to keep that over active imagination alive in the 21st Century, isn't it? Nuclear deterrents keep the nuclear peace, unless Bush or some other neo-con cocksucker really wants to press the big red button for fun.

In Singapore they cane you for chewing gum. I would like that, but I doubt that many others would.

Nothing wrong with that, it's one of only three Asian countries that have clean streets. I'm not supportive of banning the gum, but every criminal deserves the cane, that's the only way they can learn.

I don't know why there's so much graffiti and vandalism in Western places like America, in Singapore, a good caning will set the scumbags straight for good. I remembered that a decade ago, some American juvenile delinquent graffitied some cars in Singapore for fun and was caned, that caused a diplomatic rift with the U.S. government. It was funny sh*t, since that bastard got what he deserved!

haha, You think that humanity is still going to be alive in 20 years. How amusing. Everyone with half a brain can tell that the a nuclear war will be started in just a few years, and the survivors of that are all going out in the following nuclear winter.

Have you no hope? One day, we shall all band together and realize our differences are trivial. One day, we shall all realize that we possess the technology to destroy the world and do away with it. You'll see. As humans, we are amazingly capable of solving difficult problems.

It's not teaching abstinance that annoys us (although the emphasis on marriage, rather than say a long term relationship, erks the non-religious) It's refusing to teach anything about sex, and spreading lies about contraceptives, and generally saying "sex is dirty, don't ever do it outside of marriage! You will die if you have sex" that is abstinance only education. That is what steams us.

Nothing wrong with that. Like I said, most non-Westerners are beginning to see Western women as mostly sluts. Are you proud of that? Like I said before, if you want to marry a virgin in a Western country, you'll have to got for the 10-year-olds (now I'm not promoting paedophilia here).

Nothing wrong with that, it's one of only three Asian countries that have clean streets. I'm not supportive of banning the gum, but every criminal deserves the cane, that's the only way they can learn.

I don't know why there's so much graffiti and vandalism in Western places like America, in Singapore, a good caning will set the scumbags straight for good. I remembered that a decade ago, some American juvenile delinquent graffitied some cars in Singapore for fun and was caned, that caused a diplomatic rift with the U.S. government. It was funny sh*t, since that bastard got what he deserved!
Well, I meant that because caning turns me on, and I would likely start smuggling chewing gum just for a little bit of that hickr'y lovin'!

The American political spectrum is well to the right of the rest of the industrialized world.

Like who? Only Canada and a half dozen countries that make up old Europe. No, compared to the rest of the world the US is still center to slightly left. What other societies allow drug&strobe parties (aka raves)? No other country allows it's high school girls to dress trashier than prostitutes. No other nation has freedom of speech guaranteed. Before you even start, let's see you go up to a RCMP officer and say the queen is a skank. See how fast your butt lands in jail.

Nothing wrong with that. Like I said, most non-Westerners are beginning to see Western women as mostly sluts. Are you proud of that? Like I said before, if you want to marry a virgin in a Western country, you'll have to got for the 10-year-olds (now I'm not promoting paedophilia here).
Abstinance only education only enhances the sluttiness. It's often been observed that catholic school girls, who have it hammered into them that sex is wrong and evil, also tend to be flaming sluts. when sex is understood, and no longer this forbidden, taboo thing, kids will stop doing it to rebel, and will consider the results of their actions.

Well, I meant that because caning turns me on, and I would likely start smuggling chewing gum just for a little bit of that hickr'y lovin'!

This isn't the little p*ssy bondage whip you have at home, if you're a skinny man, your backbone might be revealed after the treatment. In my opinion, if you enjoy the caning, then perhaps I should Gestapo* you.

If pain's a pleasure to you then let's see how much you can handle.


*Pistol whip all your f*cking front teeth out and maybe tear out a few finger nails.

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This isn't the little p*ssy bondage whip you have at home, if you're a skinny man, your backbone might be revealed after the treatment. In my opinion, if you enjoy the caning, then perhaps I should Gestapo* you.

If pain's a pleasure to you then let's see how much you can handle.


*Pistol whip all your f*cking front teeth out and maybe tear out a few finger nails.


being a masochist doesn't make me stupid. I wouldn't like losing all my teeth, but unless this caning is drawing blood, I am quite sure I would enjoy it. I have a very high tolerance for pain. but anyway...

And I'm six foot one, 230 lbs. I'm not exactly skinny.

Trust me, I know what I can handle, and unless this cane is wielded by Mister T, I think I'll be fine.

being a masochist doesn't make me stupid. I wouldn't like losing all my teeth, but unless this caning is drawing blood, I am quite sure I would enjoy it. I have a very high tolerance for pain. but anyway...

And I'm six foot one, 230 lbs. I'm not exactly skinny.

Trust me, I know what I can handle, and unless this cane is wielded by Mister T, I think I'll be fine.

Then how about do a Saddam and iron you like shirt, huh? Does the heat bother you? Or how about enjoying a dip in the pool of concentrated sulfuric acid? Did I mention that the Gestapo liked to tear out finger and toe nails?

No matter how the liberal bitch about it, America is too free in my opinion, or at least compared to to the big C (China). When things have gone too far, it is instinctive to pull back the reigns.

As for banning evolution from schools, in 20 years, America will say bye-bye to her scientific reputation. I hate fundies!
An oppressive, far-right communist regime ( it can happen, stop staring) without freedom of the press or, officllly, even freedom of religion:
yeah, taht;s something to strive for. Horay for sweatshops and child Labour!!!

America is always liberal by Asian standards. I don't really regard Clinton as being liberal at all (apart from what he got from beneath the desk). I may be a conservative, but I prefer Clinton over Bush any day.\
maybe...because youre a conservative?
A friend of mine maintains that clinton was, economicaly, further right than Bush. To me, his seems ludicrous, but he was the most capitalist of all democratic presidents

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maybe...because youre a conservative?
A friend of mine maintains that clinton was, economicaly, further right than Bush. To me, his seems ludicrous, but he was the most capitalist of all democratic presidents

I thought that was Eisenhower!

Jesse Jackson is a race-baiting hack. Al Sharpton is no better.
no, you see:
Jesse jackson is a race-baiting hack,
Al sharpton, genuinely and truly, hates white people.

You don't have the first clue what your talking about do you.
A: You were too young to know what was happening when Clinton was in power.
B: All you had for information was the CCCP-BBC.
C: You'd have to be completely disconnected from reality to call Clinton conservative.

Why do you continue your fallacy of "centrism". You're a leftist to the core. It's what you believe in so why be ashamed of it? I'm a conservative and wear the label proudly. I freely admit my bias, why can't you?
Sorry to say, clinton was, economicaaly, further right than just about every other dem prez, and a good deal or reps ( Nixon, eisenhower)

[QUOTE=Uginin]
We now have states trying harder than ever before to ban evolution from being taught in schools. QUOTE]
Fucking eh! That's what you get for having Alabama and Texas in the same fucking region. I hate how stupid fundamentalists are trying to make children like myself stupid and blind.

Now I may sound stupid and opinionated. And I am. So yeah.

Check out American high schools around Prom time. The anti-social ones, specifically.
THAT is McCarthyism at its best. :p

Check out American high schools around Prom time. The anti-social ones, specifically.
THAT is McCarthyism at its best. :p

I am anti-social. I refused to go to prom because it was a bunch of people that were just there to get drunk and go get a hotelroom so they could fuck until morning. I saw no reason to go.

I am anti-social. I refused to go to prom because it was a bunch of people that were just there to get drunk and go get a hotelroom so they could fuck until morning. I saw no reason to go.
wait...you saw that it was a meningless drinking and fucking fest...and you missed it?? hell, Im antisocial, but that's the reason I went.
No, not really. My gf at the time ( the only woman Ive had a relationship with that I really gave a damn about) wanted to go, and being the stereotipical american teenager, it meant a lot to her.
Also, being reasonably good-looking but extremely nerdy since ever, she never actually thought she could go.
I got some that night :)

Well, I had no one to go with either. That was the other reason. Though I could have asked some couple if they minded a threesome I guess.

Well, I had no one to go with either. That was the other reason. Though I could have asked some couple if they minded a threesome I guess.
good luck with that...
though if youre a girl, neither of us wouldve minded ;)
God, I do miss alexis...

good luck with that...
though if youre a girl, neither of us wouldve minded ;)
God, I do miss alexis...

Nope. I'm a bisexual male. Too bad.

Nope. I'm a bisexual male. Too bad.
Im not homophobic. Just slightly paranoid ( and, because Im a narcissist, I beelive every gay dud out there wants to fuck me in the ass) and while Ive had threesomes with another guy and a girl before, you cant get me shithoused enough to invite you. Sorry.

Im not homophobic. Just slightly paranoid ( and, because Im a narcissist, I beelive every gay dud out there wants to fuck me in the ass) and while Ive had threesomes with another guy and a girl before, you cant get me shithoused enough to invite you. Sorry.

No problem. I'm very picky anyway, and only date girls.

Yes, and remember that last time this happened was the mid 60s. The US became so liberal after that, that it would have suprised even me!

You say you want a revolution? ;)

No matter how the liberal bitch about it, America is too free in my opinion, or at least compared to to the big C (China). When things have gone too far, it is instinctive to pull back the reigns.

As for banning evolution from schools, in 20 years, America will say bye-bye to her scientific reputation. I hate fundies!


What do you mean too far? America is pretty damn limited in my opinion, and its by the Republican party. Trying to ban evolution? Why are we doing this? Replacing it with a theory that isn't supported by any factual basis - that will make the American intelligence ratio rise compared to the rest of the world.

How is America too free? Seriously - what has gone 'too far' in your opinion?

And what the hell did the second part of your post mean?

No matter how the liberal bitch about it, America is too free in my opinion, or at least compared to to the big C (China). When things have gone too far, it is instinctive to pull back the reigns.

As for banning evolution from schools, in 20 years, America will say bye-bye to her scientific reputation. I hate fundies!
The majority of "fundies" only want to include creationism alongside evolution. Even they are a minority. So it's a minority within a minority that wants to eradicate evolution.

You say you want a revolution? ;)
...well you know, we all wanna change the world

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maybe...because youre a conservative?
A friend of mine maintains that clinton was, economicaly, further right than Bush. To me, his seems ludicrous, but he was the most capitalist of all democratic presidents

Yes, I am CONSERVATIVE, you got a problem with the average Chinese person beyond more conservative than the average White person?

If Bush knew how to run the economy, there wouldn't be this stupid recession. I do agree that Clinton is more capitalistic than Bush. Bush prefers his priorities in the Middle East than back home.

An oppressive, far-right communist regime ( it can happen, stop staring) without freedom of the press or, officllly, even freedom of religion:
yeah, taht;s something to strive for. Horay for sweatshops and child Labour!!!

Some of them actually choose to work for such long hours. Remember, White people are born lazy. If a peasant child helps with his parents in the field (in his/her spare time), that's no different to a farmer's child in America helping with farm work. I dismiss claims of child labor in China, it happens in other Asian countries, but rarely in China.

And yes, I rather live in a good dictatorship (Singapore) than a bad democracy (Bush's America). Who give a crap about these freedoms? Chinese people would rather ponder over money making than these senseless dreams. Economic stability crushs political instability.

And what the hell did the second part of your post mean?
If they teach lies ('intelligent design') instead of truths (evolution), will there be more scientists in the future?

Remember, White people are born lazy.
Racist much? :rolleyes:

I would rather live in America though, because you have the freedom to say that bush is an asshole, and in Singapore, you can't. Chech it out, pix of me killing Bush...
:rolleyes: :sniper:
:rolleyes: :mp5: :mp5: :mp5:
Me about to fuck my girlfriend...
:fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle:

Racist much?

It's a fact, they're less hardworking than the Chinese. The White man invented communism, 8-hour working day and the 5-day working week. Traditionally, in many Asian countries, the people worked from dawn to dusk everyday, only resting during festive seasons like New Years. There's a difference between a racial slur and a racial fact.

Racist?! White people ARE usually lazy spoiled brats. I'm white, and I admit that most white people don't deserve to live, but smart, informed, commie white people DO deserve to live. :headbang:

Sino, you do realize that Americans, on average, work longer hours and take less vacations then Singaporeans do, right?

:headbang: No they don't!

Sino, you do realize that Americans, on average, work longer hours and take less vacations then Singaporeans do, right?

Because they can't afford vacations. White people work by sitting around with a coffee in hand, while Asians don't give a f*ck about anything else when they're working.

May I see a source of your information?

Racist?! White people ARE usually lazy spoiled brats. I'm white, and I admit that most white people don't deserve to live, but smart, informed, commie white people DO deserve to live. :headbang:

The commies ones are subhuman. They should be gassed in the camps first! Communism is contrary to the very ways of mankind. Those who believe in such bullsh*t and consider themselves human, should be very ashamed.

"Gassed in the camps"?! You Nazi bastard! I don't care if it's against human nature, it's the best way to live, and don't call me sub'human you mother-fucker, anyone who would gas someone is a subhuman monster, anyway. bastard.

It may be a matter of values, but it's often the values that make the race. For example, if a race has ultra-pacifist values, then will they escape the bondage or annihilation after being defeated by a more warlike race?

The average (typical) White student doesn't give a crap about education, while the Chinese student would rather stay at school, or that he/she loves to acquire new information. The Far Eastern values emphasize education more than European/North American ones.

I am actually pretty tired of being called a racist when I'm simply pointing out universal facts.

The commies ones are subhuman. They should be gassed in the camps first! Communism is contrary to the very ways of mankind. Those who believe in such bullsh*t and consider themselves human, should be very ashamed. Gassed in the camps, your such a fuck face, you know that? A fuck faced little Nazi bastard. Shall I call you young Adolf? Or would a simple Seig Heil suffice?

"Gassed in the camps"?! You Nazi bastard! I don't care if it's against human nature, it's the best way to live, and don't call me sub'human you mother-fucker, anyone who would gas someone is a subhuman monster, anyway. bastard.

I may not be Nazi (or anti-Semitic), but the industrialized method (death camps) of ridding one's realm off undesirables (i.e. commies and queers) is the most effective surgery in political doctoring.

Gassed in the camps, your such a fuck face, you know that? A fuck faced little Nazi bastard. Shall I call you young Adolf? Or would a simple Seig Heil suffice?

If you do a "Seig Heil", I will simply salute back as if it was a game.

Did I mention that I also admire the Jews?

I am actually pretty tired of being called a racist when I'm simply pointing out universal facts.If these are universal facts, than why are people disagreeing with them? Or are they not as universal as you think? Racist. :mp5:

Can't argue with my logic.

If these are universal facts, than why are people disagreeing with them? Or are they not as universal as you think? Racist. :mp5:

White people aren't as hardworking in the fields of learning, it's a fact. Have you been to school with someone from the Far East?

Can't argue with my logic.

Communism is against logic.

(I need to go to lecture, so I'll post more in the next couple of days.)

White people aren't as hardworking in the fields of learning, it's a fact. Have you been to school with someone from the Far East?
Yes, I have, a guy named Abi, anyway, I agree that white people are apathetic about their studies IN GENERAL, with a few intellectual types interspersed throughout The System.

The commies ones are subhuman. They should be gassed in the camps first! "Gassed in the camps"?! You Nazi bastard! I don't care if it's against human nature, it's the best way to live, and don't call me sub'human you mother-fucker, anyone who would gas someone is a subhuman monster, anyway. bastard.Gassed in the camps, your such a fuck face, you know that? A fuck faced little Nazi bastard. Shall I call you young Adolf? Or would a simple Seig Heil suffice?
Sino, you're trolling. Knock it off.

Demokratikos, for responding to trolling with that level of flaming, you've just earned yourself an Official Warning. Do that again and you'll win a nice vacation from NationStates. Do I make myself clear?

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I may not be Nazi (or anti-Semitic), but the industrialized method (death camps) of ridding one's realm off undesirables (i.e. commies and queers) is the most effective surgery in political doctoring.

So, you "may not be a Nazi," but you support death camps for communists and homosexuals.

So, you've adopted the most asinine, hateful, and immoral views of a Nazi.

Way to separate the wheat from the chaff and get right to the evil. :rolleyes:

It's a fact, they're less hardworking than the Chinese. The White man invented communism, 8-hour working day and the 5-day working week. Traditionally, in many Asian countries, the people worked from dawn to dusk everyday, only resting during festive seasons like New Years. There's a difference between a racial slur and a racial fact.

Your alleged "racial fact[s]" are merely racist lies.

Your "history" is skewed and selective and your conclusions are erroneous and racist.

No soup for you!

No soup for you!

I'm not the man waiting at the soup line, like the millions of American workers during the Depression. Such turbulent times...

Why would I want your soup, you've probably seasoned it with cyanide.

Did I mention that I admire the Jews for their nationalistic for returning to their home? The one of the greatest races on earth is the Jewish race.

I was pointing out to facts, just as White people generally have better physical strength than Asians. This is the same as saying the White people have White skin.

I was pointing out to facts, just as White people generally have better physical strength than Asians. This is the same as saying the White people have White skin.

Come to think of it, that's an excellent example. White people have white skin. Since this "white" skin is not actually white at all, more of a flesh-color, pinks, peaches, ruddy red colors and pale, all fall under the "white skin" catagory...but none of them are white.

Just select "white" as your color when painting, now hold that up to a picture of a "white" person...do they look the same? The color and the person associated with it?

So yes, your points are perfectly valid...in the sense that they don't actually mean much of anything. Just meaningless vauge interpretations of the world and broad generalizations that do little more than clump the human race into ill-fitting classifications.

Reminds me of a stand up comic, talking about how he hates watching white people on the beach. Why? 'Cause they just lay there getting darker, and darker, and darker...but they're still white!

;)

Reminds me of a stand up comic, talking about how he hates watching white people on the beach. Why? 'Cause they just lay there getting darker, and darker, and darker...but they're still white!

;)

Sounds like a pretty funny comic to me. I'm a pretty funny person, and yes, I can perform stand up, if some training is given, along with a willing audience.

I may not be racist, but I sure enjoy laughing at racist or political jokes. The White youths of the West are increasingly being eroded culturally by the adverse Black influence of 'gangsta rap' and other assorted bullsh*t. Let's not forget that almost three quaters of the U.S. prison population is Black (truly a sad fact).

Come to think of it, that's an excellent example. White people have white skin. Since this "white" skin is not actually white at all, more of a flesh-color, pinks, peaches, ruddy red colors and pale, all fall under the "white skin" catagory...but none of them are white.

Just select "white" as your color when painting, now hold that up to a picture of a "white" person...do they look the same? The color and the person associated with it?

The 'White' man is comparatively white when you put him next to a Negro.

I don't understand why that communist fool called me a racist. I am attracted only to White chicks, maybe I've been living in the West for too long.

Just for Sino:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,,1461208,00.html

Not an attempt to troll, I'm simply interested to see what he makes of the article.

Reagrding 'Neo-McCarthyism', I have to say that the US is a long way from repeating the horrific mistakes of the 1950s. That said, I find the trends disturbing - the rise of faith-based governance in particular.

Just for Sino:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,,1461208,00.html

Not an attempt to troll, I'm simply interested to see what he makes of the article.

Reagrding 'Neo-McCarthyism', I have to say that the US is a long way from repeating the horrific mistakes of the 1950s. That said, I find the trends disturbing - the rise of faith-based governance in particular.

I don't find the article hardly surprising, just as any Asian delegate visiting the U.S. or some other Western country, get's to be called the usual labels of "Commie Chink bastard" or the like, by such individuals on the internet. It is very likely that the actual insults of those comments are directed towards Rice's politics rather than actually directed at her race. Just as a visiting Chinese leader would be initially slurred by race if he visits some Western country. Humans are programmed to think like that. They sort out the most significant physical difference first. China is not exactly monoracial, but Han culture has been over represented, as minorities in total make up something like 10% of the population. Comparing that with America, are the African Americans not functioning on a White-based culture?

Let's forget that fewer dark-skinned people have visited China, so there's bound to be some misunderstandings and distrust. Although, it is not a racist thought, the reason why they sometimes view blacks as 'lower' than White is through the years of observing the formerly widespread racism in the U.S., South Africa and across every European colony inhabited by dark-skinned people. The misunderstandings of the Chinese people is by no means equivalent to the racial hatred expressed by White supremacist groups.

Look at it this way, everyone is 'racist'. They will be discriminant or suspicious towards outsiders or those who are exceptionally avant garde. As society progressed, these attitudes are left to roam the subconscious, yet they continue to thrive.

On another note, I do share your concern of a faith-based conspiracy sweeping the world's most powerful nation. If they start with the education system, who knows what they'll try to change next. America, a nation of technological and military might, what happened the logic?

The 'White' man is comparatively white when you put him next to a Negro.

I don't understand why that communist fool called me a racist. I am attracted only to White chicks, maybe I've been living in the West for too long.

Well, the 'White' man would also be comparitively peach colored, comparitively pink. Comparatively melitonin-deficient, pigmently challenged, etc.

The person probably called you a racist because you based your comments on racial factors, rather than by personal, national, or religious ones.

For example, you commented on the Jewish race, as exemplified by Israel. The Jewish nation of Isreal is a different concept than the Jewish Race, the Jewish religion is different from both of those.

Jewish Race: The percived notion of a set of physical and mental traits associated with Jews.
Israel: A nation created by Jews, but not exclusively comprised of them.
Judaism: A monotheistic religion who's followers are called Jews.

There are induviduals who practice Judaism and are living in Israel who come from the same racial gouping as the Jewish people who fled Israel...who are utterly unlike our preconceptions of what they should look, sound, think and act like. This understanding is key.

After years, decades of dictating our beliefs and stereotypes on the basis of race, its become a hot topic around here. Too many bad examples of racial conceptions being used to be derogatory to ennumerate, so many that people are hesitant to deifne their lives by those factors.

Since people still need to classify people, still need to group them for ease of communication, we now use national, religious, or personal identification more often. Thus "Blacks" in America became known by an alternate name "African-American" and Arabs became "Middle Easterners" or "Muslims", the idea is that as old terms have been abused by bigots, the new terms will carry new connotaitons, new stereotypes.

Remember, its not set in stone. There are times where we still use racial catagorization to describe someone; "That black guy over there." And its perfectly okay. Its become HOW you use the term, and how much you assume about a person because of a term.

Understand now? Racial nomenclature is largely seen as outdated, and most people in the US associate bigotry with it.

Well, the 'White' man would also be comparitively peach colored, comparitively pink. Comparatively melitonin-deficient, pigmently challenged, etc.

The person probably called you a racist because you based your comments on racial factors, rather than by personal, national, or religious ones.

For example, you commented on the Jewish race, as exemplified by Israel. The Jewish nation of Isreal is a different concept than the Jewish Race, the Jewish religion is different from both of those.

Jewish Race: The percived notion of a set of physical and mental traits associated with Jews.
Israel: A nation created by Jews, but not exclusively comprised of them.
Judaism: A monotheistic religion who's followers are called Jews.

There are induviduals who practice Judaism and are living in Israel who come from the same racial gouping as the Jewish people who fled Israel...who are utterly unlike our preconceptions of what they should look, sound, think and act like. This understanding is key.

After years, decades of dictating our beliefs and stereotypes on the basis of race, its become a hot topic around here. Too many bad examples of racial conceptions being used to be derogatory to ennumerate, so many that people are hesitant to deifne their lives by those factors.

Since people still need to classify people, still need to group them for ease of communication, we now use national, religious, or personal identification more often. Thus "Blacks" in America became known by an alternate name "African-American" and Arabs became "Middle Easterners" or "Muslims", the idea is that as old terms have been abused by bigots, the new terms will carry new connotaitons, new stereotypes.

Remember, its not set in stone. There are times where we still use racial catagorization to describe someone; "That black guy over there." And its perfectly okay. Its become HOW you use the term, and how much you assume about a person because of a term.

Understand now? Racial nomenclature is largely seen as outdated, and most people in the US associate bigotry with it.


Arabs are still arabs. They come from Arabia, not middle-easternia.

It's a fact, they're less hardworking than the Chinese. The White man invented communism, 8-hour working day and the 5-day working week. Traditionally, in many Asian countries, the people worked from dawn to dusk everyday, only resting during festive seasons like New Years. There's a difference between a racial slur and a racial fact.


It's also a fact the the chinese can't handle their opium. Give them a pipe and they'll lie in bed all day smoking. In fact, they'll sell their children into slavery for the next pipe.

Asians also all have gambling problems and can't hold their liquor. Also they are tone deaf.

It's also a fact the the chinese can't handle their opium. Give them a pipe and they'll lie in bed all day smoking. In fact, they'll sell their children into slavery for the next pipe.

That can happen to anyone who has a drugs problem. And related the historical impact of the opium, today's Chinese have a harder stand against drugs than the average Westerner.

I do agree that Chinese and Koreans are more likely to be gambling addicts. Whites are more prone to develop alcoholism than Asians, considering that they have a more prevalent booze culture.

Let's not forget that all the above immoralities and vices can affect anyone, especially if the government or society stand idly by as people are grounded into dust by their irresponsible actions.

Arabs are still arabs. They come from Arabia, not middle-easternia.

Aren't Arabs and Jews White by color? I'm not sure of what system the U.S. law enforcement works on.

The commies ones are subhuman. They should be gassed in the camps first! Communism is contrary to the very ways of mankind. Those who believe in such bullsh*t and consider themselves human, should be very ashamed.underline mine.
"Gassed in the camps"?! You Nazi bastard! I don't care if it's against human nature, it's the best way to live, and don't call me sub'human you mother-fucker, anyone who would gas someone is a subhuman monster, anyway. bastard.
Demokratikos is the one getting the official?

Aren't Arabs and Jews White by color? I'm not sure of what system the U.S. law enforcement works on.


Color doesn't determine race. If it did, many Asians would be considered white.

Color doesn't determine race. If it did, many Asians would be considered white.

Not really, Oriental skin is generally considered Yellow.

Demokratikos is the one getting the official?

Don't look at me, I'm not the mod.

Not really, Oriental skin is generally considered Yellow.

I never understood why Asians are "yellow". Even the dark ones are just a light brown color.

As a matter of fact, most Asians that I come into contact with are very light-skinned Japanese who are even paler than the average white person.

I never understood why Asians are "yellow". Even the dark ones are just a light brown color.

As a matter of fact, most Asians that I come into contact with are very light-skinned Japanese who are even paler than the average white person.

The Asian skin color is different from actual brown (like Polynesians).

The Asian being paler than a White man? I'm not surprised that White people stay in the sun these days and want to be Black. There are still many Asians that see tanned skin as unattractive, and will try to prevent tanning.