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I just read intresting article (I can't give adress, because it was on newspaper) about the plan of Bush to get space weapons.
the article said that USA afraid from nuclear bombs that will sent to them from Iran or North korea in the near future. in addition they worried about the increasing military power of China, and the Russian rockets that is imposibble to destroy with the current weapons.
the American system will include laser weapons that could destroy rocket 6 seconds after it firstly seen, and neuclear space weapon that will reach the aim faster than the land-land missles.
this system will be continuty to the flying laser system that can detroy balistic missles, and was installed on the Boing 747.
USA supposed to invest scores of bilions dollars in the project, and acheive the goal while the next 4 years.
rockets command's document said that USA want to get full control over the space, by space attack ability, that let them destroy their enemy's satellites while they sending them to space.

I just read intresting article (I can't give adress, because it was on newspaper) about the plan of Bush to get space weapons.
the article said that USA afraid from nuclear bombs that will sent to them from Iran or North korea in the near future. in addition they worried about the increasing military power of China, and the Russian rockets that is imposibble to destroy with the current weapons.
the American system will include laser weapons that could destroy rocket 6 seconds after it firstly seen, and neuclear space weapon that will reach the aim faster than the land-land missles.
this system will be continuty to the flying laser system that can detroy balistic missles, and was installed on the Boing 747.
USA supposed to invest scores of bilions dollars in the project, and acheive the goal while the next 4 years.
rockets command's document said that USA want to get full control over the space, by space attack ability, that let them destroy their enemy's satellites while they sending them to space.
There was a Tom Clancy novel that talked about a similar system (the 747 system) that had a ground based laser using a mirror mounted on a 747 to be able to attack targets over the horizon. Interesting concept. I dunno how practical it would be, though.

There was a Tom Clancy novel that talked about a similar system (the 747 system) that had a ground based laser using a mirror mounted on a 747 to be able to attack targets over the horizon. Interesting concept. I dunno how practical it would be, though.
It already exists. The laser proved to be 400 percent more powerful than the design intended.

Scheduled to be operational later this year. It's built by Boeing.

It already exists. The laser proved to be 400 percent more powerful than the design intended.

Scheduled to be operational later this year. It's built by Boeing.
Sweet! I need to find some info on this...mainly because I'm wondering how they compensated for atmospheric distortion.

I just read intresting article (I can't give adress, because it was on newspaper) about the plan of Bush to get space weapons.
the article said that USA afraid from nuclear bombs that will sent to them from Iran or North korea in the near future. in addition they worried about the increasing military power of China, and the Russian rockets that is imposibble to destroy with the current weapons.
the American system will include laser weapons that could destroy rocket 6 seconds after it firstly seen, and neuclear space weapon that will reach the aim faster than the land-land missles.
this system will be continuty to the flying laser system that can detroy balistic missles, and was installed on the Boing 747.
USA supposed to invest scores of bilions dollars in the project, and acheive the goal while the next 4 years.
rockets command's document said that USA want to get full control over the space, by space attack ability, that let them destroy their enemy's satellites while they sending them to space.

The 747 system is soon to be operational, and this system was only considered after it was realised that the SDI 'Star Wars' system is utterly out of the question

The 747 system is soon to be operational, and this system was only considered after it was realised that the SDI 'Star Wars' system is utterly out of the question

The original Star Wars implies a system that would be too expensive to build - not one that is technologically infeasible.

Currently, the SBIRS-High and SBIRS-Low satellites have achieved something that was considered impossible - superresolution of cooled ICBM warheads against the background of the Earth.

Point of fact - they can distinguish decoys from the real thing in real time.

The laser systems work, and are far more powerful than was previously considered possible. For cost reasons, and risk management, they went ahead with the Airborne Laser. The Space Based Laser is apprently on track - but it remains to be seen how many satellites out of the proposed 24 will be built.

That's why the Air Force is marketing other uses for the Space Based Laser aside from missile defense. It is not a stretch for something capable of resolving a 10 cm spot on an object moving at Mach 25 being used to vaporize an individual (such as Kim Jong-il if he goes outside for a walk), or destroy aircraft in flight, or cripple an industrial plant - with a level of civilian casualties far lower than is possible with our current panoply of weapons.

The attack, if there are sufficient satellites, can occur within seconds of the decision to do so. Not hours, days, weeks, or months later.

The original Star Wars implies a system that would be too expensive to build - not one that is technologically infeasible.

Currently, the SBIRS-High and SBIRS-Low satellites have achieved something that was considered impossible - superresolution of cooled ICBM warheads against the background of the Earth.

Point of fact - they can distinguish decoys from the real thing in real time.

The laser systems work, and are far more powerful than was previously considered possible. For cost reasons, and risk management, they went ahead with the Airborne Laser. The Space Based Laser is apprently on track - but it remains to be seen how many satellites out of the proposed 24 will be built.

That's why the Air Force is marketing other uses for the Space Based Laser aside from missile defense. It is not a stretch for something capable of resolving a 10 cm spot on an object moving at Mach 25 being used to vaporize an individual (such as Kim Jong-il if he goes outside for a walk), or destroy aircraft in flight, or cripple an industrial plant - with a level of civilian casualties far lower than is possible with our current panoply of weapons.

The attack, if there are sufficient satellites, can occur within seconds of the decision to do so. Not hours, days, weeks, or months later.

I'm sorry, but what is your problem with me? I make what is a valid point and you rip into it like nothing else. Not the first it's happened either

The 747 system is soon to be operational, and this system was only considered after it was realised that the SDI 'Star Wars' system is utterly out of the question

The information I am privy to lends the opinion that shooting down an ICBM with a laser is difficult on a par with shooting another man's bullet out of the air. Weather has always been the biggest detracting factor, not only to ballistic missiles, but also to their interception. With a laser, pinpoint accuracy is required, and that sort of accuracy is not consistently available in any appreciable weather. The documents I've seen regarding the use of localized electromagnetic pulses (LEMPs) have been much more persuasive.

-PFD

Of course it all assumes you can get your big fat 747 into place without the local Phoenix equivalent swatting it out of the sky.

Of course it all assumes you can get your big fat 747 into place without the local Phoenix equivalent swatting it out of the sky.

Precisely. Something the LEMP-outfitted units don't have a problem with.

-PFD

What are we doing?!
These weapons won't be effective at all....we need Gundams! ;)
And yes, if Bush wants we can arm a Gundam with nuclear weapons (Gundam GP02 anyone?)

What are we doing?!
These weapons won't be effective at all....we need Gundams! ;)
And yes, if Bush wants we can arm a Gundam with nuclear weapons (Gundam GP02 anyone?)

Hmmm... let me see. Gundams = nice idea. Do we have the technology in this day and age for one? NO! Don't say stupid things such as this

Any time the government proposes investing in high technology, its good news.

Any time the government proposes investing in high technology, its good news.

Well, that always has to be weighed against the two classic balances: quality vs. quantity, and guns vs. butter.

-PFD

So, lemme get this clear then; the 747s (im assuming there would have to be a fleet if them) would have to be scrambled in time, to any part of the country?
Or are they just going to be used for politically and military sensitive areas- bases, ports, D.C, etc. and TS to the civilian cities?

The information I am privy to lends the opinion that shooting down an ICBM with a laser is difficult on a par with shooting another man's bullet out of the air. Weather has always been the biggest detracting factor, not only to ballistic missiles, but also to their interception. With a laser, pinpoint accuracy is required, and that sort of accuracy is not consistently available in any appreciable weather. The documents I've seen regarding the use of localized electromagnetic pulses (LEMPs) have been much more persuasive.

-PFD

The only problem with this is that many warheads are now being EMP shielded as a result of this technology. In all honesty, EMP bombs or graphite bombs are so much more effective than actual nuclear weapons, so (and I know this sounds narrow-minded, which it is) these should be used via conventional delivery methods, such as the JDAM 1000lbs bomb

The only problem with this is that many warheads are now being EMP shielded as a result of this technology. In all honesty, EMP bombs or graphite bombs are so much more effective than actual nuclear weapons, so (and I know this sounds narrow-minded, which it is) these should be used via conventional delivery methods, such as the JDAM 1000lbs bomb

You have my complete agreement on all points.

-PFG

You have my complete agreement on all points.

-PFG
Thank you

The only problem with this is that many warheads are now being EMP shielded as a result of this technology. In all honesty, EMP bombs or graphite bombs are so much more effective than actual nuclear weapons, so (and I know this sounds narrow-minded, which it is) these should be used via conventional delivery methods, such as the JDAM 1000lbs bomb
I also agree this is a great idea and EMP devices would be the best weapons for disruption instead of destruction! Althought dont you all think we should be investin in something like Cold Fusion, something to save the world rather than new weapons to destroy it with?

Lets play a little game called "America Owns The World!'-as hosted by Dick Clarke
Basically America makes the rules breaks the rules and shits on everyone else!
Oh we own space now to!
Nice work guys nice. :mp5:

[QUOTE=Whispering Legs]It is not a stretch for something capable of resolving a 10 cm spot on an object moving at Mach 25 being used to vaporize an individual (such as Kim Jong-il if he goes outside for a walk), or destroy aircraft in flight, or cripple an industrial plant - with a level of civilian casualties far lower than is possible with our current panoply of weapons.[QUOTE]

Wouldnt that be hilarious to see that man on fire??

I also agree this is a great idea and EMP devices would be the best weapons for disruption instead of destruction! Althought dont you all think we should be investin in something like Cold Fusion, something to save the world rather than new weapons to destroy it with?

My god, people are agreeing with me. w00t w00t!, lol