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This is great... I don't think I quite measure up...

The following is from a 1950's home economics textbook intended for high school girls, teaching them how to prepare for married life:

1. Have dinner ready: Plan ahead, even the night before, to have a delicious meal - on time. This is a way of letting him know that you have been thinking about him, and are concerned about his needs. Most men are hungry when they come home and the prospects of a good meal are part of the warm welcome needed.

2. Prepare yourself: Take 15 minutes to rest so you will be refreshed when he arrives. Touch up your makeup, put a ribbon in your hair and be fresh looking. He has just been with a lot of work-weary people. Be a little gay and a little more interesting. His boring day may need a lift.

3. Clear away the clutter. Make one last trip through the main part of the house just before your husband arrives, gathering up school books, toys, paper, etc. Then run a dust cloth over the tables. Your husband will feel he has reached a haven of rest and order, and it will give you a lift, too.

4. Prepare the children: Take a few minutes to wash the children's hands and faces if they are small, comb their hair, and if necessary, change their clothes. They are little treasures and he would like to see them playing the part.

5. Minimize the noise: At the time of his arrival, eliminate all noise of washer, dryer, dishwasher or vacuum. Try to encourage the children to be quiet. Be happy to see him. Greet him with a warm smile and be glad to see him.

6. Some Don'ts: Don't greet him with problems or complaints. Don't complain if he's late for dinner. Count this as minor compared with what he might have gone through that day.

7. Make him comfortable: Have him lean back in a comfortable chair or suggest he lie down in the bedroom. Have a cool or warm drink ready for him. Arrange his pillow and offer to take off his shoes. Speak in a low, soft, soothing and pleasant voice. Allow him to relax and unwind.

8. Listen to him: You may have a dozen things to tell him, but the moment of his arrival is not the time. Let him talk first.

9. Make the evening his: Never complain if he does not take you out to dinner or to other places of entertainment; instead, try to understand his world of strain and pressure, his need to be home and relax.

10. The goal: Try to make your home a place of peace and order where your husband can relax.

This is great... I don't think I quite measure up...

The following is from a 1950's home economics textbook intended for high school girls, teaching them how to prepare for married life:

1. Have dinner ready: Plan ahead, even the night before, to have a delicious meal - on time. This is a way of letting him know that you have been thinking about him, and are concerned about his needs. Most men are hungry when they come home and the prospects of a good meal are part of the warm welcome needed.

2. Prepare yourself: Take 15 minutes to rest so you will be refreshed when he arrives. Touch up your makeup, put a ribbon in your hair and be fresh looking. He has just been with a lot of work-weary people. Be a little gay and a little more interesting. His boring day may need a lift.

3. Clear away the clutter. Make one last trip through the main part of the house just before your husband arrives, gathering up school books, toys, paper, etc. Then run a dust cloth over the tables. Your husband will feel he has reached a haven of rest and order, and it will give you a lift, too.

4. Prepare the children: Take a few minutes to wash the children's hands and faces if they are small, comb their hair, and if necessary, change their clothes. They are little treasures and he would like to see them playing the part.

5. Minimize the noise: At the time of his arrival, eliminate all noise of washer, dryer, dishwasher or vacuum. Try to encourage the children to be quiet. Be happy to see him. Greet him with a warm smile and be glad to see him.

6. Some Don'ts: Don't greet him with problems or complaints. Don't complain if he's late for dinner. Count this as minor compared with what he might have gone through that day.

7. Make him comfortable: Have him lean back in a comfortable chair or suggest he lie down in the bedroom. Have a cool or warm drink ready for him. Arrange his pillow and offer to take off his shoes. Speak in a low, soft, soothing and pleasant voice. Allow him to relax and unwind.

8. Listen to him: You may have a dozen things to tell him, but the moment of his arrival is not the time. Let him talk first.

9. Make the evening his: Never complain if he does not take you out to dinner or to other places of entertainment; instead, try to understand his world of strain and pressure, his need to be home and relax.

10. The goal: Try to make your home a place of peace and order where your husband can relax.
*Breathes, counts to ten.* I strongly disagree with this.

Oh god, I wish I knew a gal like that. Well, a gal under 30.

My wife tries hard to do this when she was home with small children. It was very thoughtful of her. Not necessary, but very kind...

it's the kind of wife i intend to be

*twitches* I don't want to go on a rant, but I'll say this: I would NEVER expect that from my fiance. Nor would she, from me. We take care of each other, not just her of me, or me of 'er.

I knew a girl about a year ago who definetely had an unhealthy obsession with '50s housewives. It was a little scary, but at the same time - to each their own.

Although feminists groups would have a field day with her, she'd definetely make some guy's day. But I like my women with a little more independence.

Wow, that almost makes me want to get married.

Unfortunately, day to day obsevation of the suburbs monkeys tends to indicate that this is not exactly how it functions.

Yes, it can work negatively as an expectation. As a voluntary kindness it's an unselfish gift.

*rofl*

I posted this same thing in my tabulas. I get a kick out of it everytime I read it.

*twitches* I don't want to go on a rant, but I'll say this: I would NEVER expect that from my fiance. Nor would she, from me. We take care of each other, not just her of me, or me of 'er.

Er, but the manual was exclusively for girls, see. Nothing in this precludes you from taking care of her, and really the only sexist thing I can see out of all this is if there wasn't a similar manual preparing boys.

Actually some of those are damn good ways to make a better relationship. For example, being considerate of someone whose come home from work by not blathering about your problems to them. Marriage or no marriage, man or woman, that sort of thing causes stress all the time. It incourages understanding other people versus complaining about your own person, it incourages listening instead of speaking, both of which are good traits - again, man or woman, to have.

A 21st century version of this would simply replace "working partner" for "husband" and "childrearing partner" for "wife." And it would be pretty OK in my book.

"Be a little gay and a little more interesting."

*snicker*

Okay. Now I am going to try to explain my view this in a clear, communcative way.

Yes, I do know women like that. Living along the Bible Belt, not only do several of my grandmothers feel they have a responsibility to be like that, but many women my mother's age feel the same, and many women my age feel like they will eventually have to be that way.

I am disgusted by the very thought of me being a "housewife" or a "stay-at-home" mom. I wouldn't do it. I think marriage should be an expression of love, and if only one person does all the housework/cooking, then that isn't love, that's servitude.

That's not to say I wouldn't let a man cook for me, or I wouldn't cook for a man, or I take most of the responsibility for the children. I don't think it has to be split exactly down the middle, but there should be a fair, convient, cooperative divy-ing up of chores.

10. The goal: Try to make your home a place of peace and order where your husband can relax.

I like this the best. Virtually every married guy I know tells me that his wife works to do just the opposite.

"Be a little gay and a little more interesting."

*snicker*
That part I like. That part I could do just fine. :fluffle:

That part I like. That part I could do just fine. :fluffle:

Being fabulous is hard work.

Er, but the manual was exclusively for girls, see. Nothing in this precludes you from taking care of her, and really the only sexist thing I can see out of all this is if there wasn't a similar manual preparing boys.

Actually some of those are damn good ways to make a better relationship. For example, being considerate of someone whose come home from work by not blathering about your problems to them. Marriage or no marriage, man or woman, that sort of thing causes stress all the time. It incourages understanding other people versus complaining about your own person, it incourages listening instead of speaking, both of which are good traits - again, man or woman, to have.

A 21st century version of this would simply replace "working partner" for "husband" and "childrearing partner" for "wife." And it would be pretty OK in my book.
Yes, but the mindset then, from what I understand, was that the man's needs seemed to be the primary concern, and the wife's secondary. Hence my problem. You don't just write a manual telling someone how to be the "proper" wife. That seems to expect of them complete subservience and relegates them to a secondary role.

I do agree that you shouldn't just launch into a barrage of your problems the second someone gets home, unless it's important. Everyone needs "downtime", and it helps to destress, before you take on other problems.

Be a little gay and a little more interesting.

Screw the rest of it ... this is all you need in a wife. :D

great screaming goose turds, this thing reads more like a manual for taking care of a volatile inmate that lives in your house. Half of these look like they're just meant to prevent setting the husband off, like he's some highly agitated buffalo that lumbers in between 5:30 and 6:00. Even by 50's standards, unless the dude works on the bomb squad, why would he even need to be treated like this?

Ya know, my wife matches quite few of these and I never asked her to nor expected her to. I am constantly shocked and grateful for the many kind things she does for me. She makes lunch for me almost every morning. Not a sandwich and chips, were talking a multiple course lunch. Veggies, maybe two kinds of meat, rice, gyoza. I didn't expect her to, I didn't ask her to, she just did it. It embarasses the hell out of me. It would be fine if she did not do it.
Just amazing.

Ya know, my wife matches quite few of these and I never asked her to nor expected her to. I am constantly shocked and grateful for the many kind things she does for me. She makes lunch for me almost every morning. Not a sandwich and chips, were talking a multiple course lunch. Veggies, maybe two kinds of meat, rice, gyoza. I didn't expect her to, I didn't ask her to, she just did it. It embarasses the hell out of me. It would be fine if she did not do it. Just amazing.

That's how I feel about my wife. I never asked nor expected her to accomplish what's on that list. She just did. Just blew me away. It's voluntary kindness. And it needs to be reciprocated...

That's how I feel about my wife. I never asked nor expected her to accomplish what's on that list. She just did. Just blew me away. It's voluntary kindness. And it needs to be reciprocated...

Yep, I cook dinner (love to cook!) help clean house, make the beds and the most manly of all jobs. . .I take out the garbage! Sweeeeeeet!

Hell Yeah

I want to marry a lady who will be my soul mate, not some sort of slave. Besides, if I end up marrying the lady I'm with right now (I hope), and for some reason we have kids, I'll probably be the stay at home one, as she'll probably be making a lot more money than me!

I want to marry a lady who will be my soul mate, not some sort of slave. Besides, if I end up marrying the lady I'm with right now (I hope), and for some reason we have kids, I'll probably be the stay at home one, as she'll probably be making a lot more money than me!
Ah, you ultra-leftist, you! :fluffle:

i feel sorry for the poor 50s wives :(

Ya know, my wife matches quite few of these and I never asked her to nor expected her to. I am constantly shocked and grateful for the many kind things she does for me. She makes lunch for me almost every morning. Not a sandwich and chips, were talking a multiple course lunch. Veggies, maybe two kinds of meat, rice, gyoza. I didn't expect her to, I didn't ask her to, she just did it. It embarasses the hell out of me. It would be fine if she did not do it.
Just amazing.
If I may ask, is your wife Japanese? My fiancee is and when we're together it's pretty much the same. I've had to almost physically stop her from getting up to fix me breakfast in the morning (I have to go to work, she's on summer break from college. Besides, not only do I love to cook, but coffee and toast isn't THAT hard to make). Her reason being that she HAS to be a good Japanese wife to me. She's just happy as long as I make her coffee every morning. :)

Any case, snopes has this posted about this list: http://www.snopes.com/language/document/goodwife.htm

If I may ask, is your wife Japanese? My fiancee is and when we're together it's pretty much the same. I've had to almost physically stop her from getting up to fix me breakfast in the morning (I have to go to work, she's on summer break from college. Besides, not only do I love to cook, but coffee and toast isn't THAT hard to make). Her reason being that she HAS to be a good Japanese wife to me. She's just happy as long as I make her coffee every morning. :)

Any case, snopes has this posted about this list: http://www.snopes.com/language/document/goodwife.htm

Yep, she's Japanese. I also tried to stop her at first and she just shooed me away and told me to let her. I usually thank her for the lunches and tell her they were good (which they usually are) when I get home and she was surprised by this. She told me that Japanese men almost never do so which in turn surprised me.

Yep, she's Japanese. I also tried to stop her at first and she just shooed me away and told me to let her. I usually thank her for the lunches and tell her they were good (which they usually are) when I get home and she was surprised by this. She told me that Japanese men almost never do so which in turn surprised me.
Yup, I get that as well. Japanese men don't cook, don't clean, and don't insist on carrying things (this isn't a, you're a girl, so you're weak, it's more along the lines that according to her, Japanese women are supposed to be pack mules and me saying that I will share surprises her). My responce is always, Nihonjin dewanai!

Yup, I get that as well. Japanese men don't cook, don't clean, and don't insist on carrying things (this isn't a, you're a girl, so you're weak, it's more along the lines that according to her, Japanese women are supposed to be pack mules and me saying that I will share surprises her). My responce is always, Nihonjin dewanai!

It is amazing.
I like to say, "Oi!" to which she scowls and replies, "Urusai!"

i think todays "good wife" is the martha stewart clone. (well except for the prison part) she cooks gourmet dinners, makes all her family's clothes, raises fancy chickens and homeschools the kids.

I would get so bored with a woman like that. I'd probably leave her. If I want a loyal companion, I'll get a dog.

I would get so bored with a woman like that. I'd probably leave her. If I want a loyal companion, I'll get a dog.

Oh for godsakes, might I mention dogbreath!! Cats my friend, cats are the superior creature.

Oh for godsakes, might I mention dogbreath!! Cats my friend, cats are the superior creature.

I'm allergic to cats.

I'm allergic to cats.

So you have to get an injection once a week, that little bit of pain is well worth the advantages of cats.

This is great... I don't think I quite measure up...

The following is from a 1950's home economics textbook intended for high school girls, teaching them how to prepare for married life:

1. Have dinner ready: Plan ahead, even the night before, to have a delicious meal - on time. This is a way of letting him know that you have been thinking about him, and are concerned about his needs. Most men are hungry when they come home and the prospects of a good meal are part of the warm welcome needed.

2. Prepare yourself: Take 15 minutes to rest so you will be refreshed when he arrives. Touch up your makeup, put a ribbon in your hair and be fresh looking. He has just been with a lot of work-weary people. Be a little gay and a little more interesting. His boring day may need a lift.

3. Clear away the clutter. Make one last trip through the main part of the house just before your husband arrives, gathering up school books, toys, paper, etc. Then run a dust cloth over the tables. Your husband will feel he has reached a haven of rest and order, and it will give you a lift, too.

4. Prepare the children: Take a few minutes to wash the children's hands and faces if they are small, comb their hair, and if necessary, change their clothes. They are little treasures and he would like to see them playing the part.

5. Minimize the noise: At the time of his arrival, eliminate all noise of washer, dryer, dishwasher or vacuum. Try to encourage the children to be quiet. Be happy to see him. Greet him with a warm smile and be glad to see him.

6. Some Don'ts: Don't greet him with problems or complaints. Don't complain if he's late for dinner. Count this as minor compared with what he might have gone through that day.

7. Make him comfortable: Have him lean back in a comfortable chair or suggest he lie down in the bedroom. Have a cool or warm drink ready for him. Arrange his pillow and offer to take off his shoes. Speak in a low, soft, soothing and pleasant voice. Allow him to relax and unwind.

8. Listen to him: You may have a dozen things to tell him, but the moment of his arrival is not the time. Let him talk first.

9. Make the evening his: Never complain if he does not take you out to dinner or to other places of entertainment; instead, try to understand his world of strain and pressure, his need to be home and relax.

10. The goal: Try to make your home a place of peace and order where your husband can relax.
I somehow get the feeling that I'll be arriving at home around the same time as my hypothetical husband and either I'm cooking and he gets to rest and then clean up afterwards while I rest or the other way around.

But yeah, that's pretty dumb.

*puts eyes back in sockets and tries to stop laughing*

Tink, you better be kidding about what you said.

In all honesty, the manual isn't that bad an idea, if it was applied to both genders. It'd probably lessen the divorce rate a ton.

In all honesty, the manual isn't that bad an idea, if it was applied to both genders. It'd probably lessen the divorce rate a ton.
A mandatory wait period on marriage would also decrese the divorce rate a lot.

After careful thought into the question...my mom acts the part of "the good wife" pretty closely in line with that textbook.

My family had the classic 2.5 children (two kids and pets), and we were living the suburban, middle-class ideal. We fit that idealized notion of american life to a fairly high degree.

How strange. Despite the fact that we basically lived that idealized lifestyle, the concept of "The way we never were" influenced our entire family's thoughts on the issue. We knew that despite OUR living that lifestyle, not everyone did, not even a majority of people did. I found that it deeply and profoundly did not matter to me.

Perhaps that explains my own indifferent attitudes towards social norms, I care little for what people consider "normal" and "unusual" and did so since before my teen years. Such expectaitons of how people "ought" to be was never really burned into me by my parents.

Now that I am a little older, I find myself wondering why people feel the need to hold up one lifestyle more than another. Anyone can live their own certain way, it matters little if one's neighbors stay indoors and play video games or have parties on their back porch. It matters little if they have a nuclear family or are a lesbian wiccan coven with plushie fetishists coming over every thursday.

What matters is finding your own way in life, finding someone who you can share it with, and settling in to enjoy life. Why go across the street to lecture your neighbors about their tatoos?

A mandatory wait period on marriage would also decrese the divorce rate a lot.
It would, but it'd also lead to an explosion in illegitimate births...

It would, but it'd also lead to an explosion in illegitimate births...

And "illegitimate" is wrong somehow?

It would, but it'd also lead to an explosion in illegitimate births...
So? Who cares? As long as the parties involved know who the father is, then that's all that matters for legal purposes. And if they're going to get married just after the wait period is over then what does it matter?

....EWWW

I've dated a girl from Japan (Not actually Japanese... she was just raisedi n Okinawa.. which is like hyper-traditional pastoral Japan).

Once, while I was taking a shower, she cleaned my room and made my bed.

I was twitching in horror. :eek:

And then she complained at me later for not being messy enough.


Seriously, I like women who're a little rough around the edges.

Thankfully, she makes up for the background by tending to leave bite marks.

And we're not even dating anymore...

:D

....EWWW

I've dated a girl from Japan (Not actually Japanese... she was just raisedi n Okinawa.. which is like hyper-traditional pastoral Japan).

Once, while I was taking a shower, she cleaned my room and made my bed.

I was twitching in horror. :eek:

And then she complained at me later for not being messy enough.


Seriously, I like women who're a little rough around the edges.

Thankfully, she makes up for the background by tending to leave bite marks.

And we're not even dating anymore...

:D
would you mind sharing her....email
If you dont...TG-me

would you mind sharing her....email
If you dont...TG-me

1) She's only 17. Otherwise I wouldn't have been alone in that shower.

2) She has a boyfriend.

3) She'd probably get really annoyed with me if, after refusing to break local laws, I also set her towards someone else.

4) I'd be much less worried if you had a sister who wanted her email. Muhaha.

1. Have dinner ready: Plan ahead, make sure you have plenty of frozen meals in your freezer. When he arrives pop a "Lean Cuisine" in the microwave. This is a way of letting him know that you have been thinking about him, and that he needs to lose weight. Most men are hungry when they come home, but thier tastebuds are so ill-refined that effort is not needed.

2. Prepare yourself: Write a list of chores he needs to do when he gets home. He has just been with a lot of work-weary people and so he probaly just wants to watch "The OC." Don't let him, the garage needs to be cleaned out.

3. Clear away the clutter. Make one last trip through the main part of the house just before your husband arrives, gathering up school books, toys, paper, etc. Then re-organize the house so that he'll never be able to find anything. Do this three times a week so that once he's gotten used to things, everything is changed. This will give you the ability to control him.

4. Prepare the children: Make sure to train them to scream at the top of thier lungs when he sits down to read the evening newspaper. Also give them large amounts of sugar right before he arrives.

5. Maximize the noise: At the time of his arrival, Play heavy metal music. Try to encourage the children to scream at the top of thier lungs. Act happy to see him. Greet him with a warm smile and pretend you can't hear him over the music.

6. Some Don'ts: Don't greet him with problems or complaints. Wisper them into his ear at night. Don't complain if he's late for dinner. If he's late, lock him out of the house.

7. Make him comfortable: Have him lean back in a comfortable chair or suggest he lie down in the bedroom. Have a cool or warm drink ready for him. Arrange his pillow and offer to take off his shoes. Speak in a low, soft, soothing and pleasant voice. Once he is relaxed make the dog jump on him.

8. Listen to him: You may have a dozen things to tell him, but the moment of his arrival is not the time. Let him talk first. Then tell him he's an idiot and instruct him on how to think properly.

9. Make the evening his: Never complain if he does not take you out to dinner or to other places of entertainment; instead, deny him all his "marriage privilages" untill he does. This is also how you get jewlry.

10. The goal: Try to make your home your kingdom. It's yours; don't let him forget it.

1) She's only 17. Otherwise I wouldn't have been alone in that shower.

2) She has a boyfriend.

3) She'd probably get really annoyed with me if, after refusing to break local laws, I also set her towards someone else.

4) I'd be much less worried if you had a sister who wanted her email. Muhaha.My sisters are married...and im pretty sure they are not bi.

Ahhh a golden time. Fortunatly there are still women like that outthere. My wife has the food cooked, and all the other stuff when I get home from work. Of course, its my job as the husband to take care of her and make sure she is provided for, so it all evens out

This is great... I don't think I quite measure up...

The following is from a 1950's home economics textbook intended for high school girls, teaching them how to prepare for married life:

1. Have dinner ready: Plan ahead, even the night before, to have a delicious meal - on time. This is a way of letting him know that you have been thinking about him, and are concerned about his needs. Most men are hungry when they come home and the prospects of a good meal are part of the warm welcome needed.

2. Prepare yourself: Take 15 minutes to rest so you will be refreshed when he arrives. Touch up your makeup, put a ribbon in your hair and be fresh looking. He has just been with a lot of work-weary people. Be a little gay and a little more interesting. His boring day may need a lift.

3. Clear away the clutter. Make one last trip through the main part of the house just before your husband arrives, gathering up school books, toys, paper, etc. Then run a dust cloth over the tables. Your husband will feel he has reached a haven of rest and order, and it will give you a lift, too.

4. Prepare the children: Take a few minutes to wash the children's hands and faces if they are small, comb their hair, and if necessary, change their clothes. They are little treasures and he would like to see them playing the part.

5. Minimize the noise: At the time of his arrival, eliminate all noise of washer, dryer, dishwasher or vacuum. Try to encourage the children to be quiet. Be happy to see him. Greet him with a warm smile and be glad to see him.

6. Some Don'ts: Don't greet him with problems or complaints. Don't complain if he's late for dinner. Count this as minor compared with what he might have gone through that day.

7. Make him comfortable: Have him lean back in a comfortable chair or suggest he lie down in the bedroom. Have a cool or warm drink ready for him. Arrange his pillow and offer to take off his shoes. Speak in a low, soft, soothing and pleasant voice. Allow him to relax and unwind.

8. Listen to him: You may have a dozen things to tell him, but the moment of his arrival is not the time. Let him talk first.

9. Make the evening his: Never complain if he does not take you out to dinner or to other places of entertainment; instead, try to understand his world of strain and pressure, his need to be home and relax.

10. The goal: Try to make your home a place of peace and order where your husband can relax.

Sounds good to me, do I get to club her sometimes but? Theres no mention of clubbing in there. sulks.

1. Have dinner ready: Plan ahead, make sure you have plenty of frozen meals in your freezer. When he arrives pop a "Lean Cuisine" in the microwave. This is a way of letting him know that you have been thinking about him, and that he needs to lose weight. Most men are hungry when they come home, but thier tastebuds are so ill-refined that effort is not needed.
2. Prepare yourself: Write a list of chores he needs to do when he gets home. He has just been with a lot of work-weary people and so he probaly just wants to watch "The OC." Don't let him, the garage needs to be cleaned out.
3. Clear away the clutter. Make one last trip through the main part of the house just before your husband arrives, gathering up school books, toys, paper, etc. Then re-organize the house so that he'll never be able to find anything. Do this three times a week so that once he's gotten used to things, everything is changed. This will give you the ability to control him.
4. Prepare the children: Make sure to train them to scream at the top of thier lungs when he sits down to read the evening newspaper. Also give them large amounts of sugar right before he arrives.
5. Maximize the noise: At the time of his arrival, Play heavy metal music. Try to encourage the children to scream at the top of thier lungs. Act happy to see him. Greet him with a warm smile and pretend you can't hear him over the music.
6. Some Don'ts: Don't greet him with problems or complaints. Wisper them into his ear at night. Don't complain if he's late for dinner. If he's late, lock him out of the house.
7. Make him comfortable: Have him lean back in a comfortable chair or suggest he lie down in the bedroom. Have a cool or warm drink ready for him. Arrange his pillow and offer to take off his shoes. Speak in a low, soft, soothing and pleasant voice. Once he is relaxed make the dog jump on him.
8. Listen to him: You may have a dozen things to tell him, but the moment of his arrival is not the time. Let him talk first. Then tell him he's an idiot and instruct him on how to think properly.
9. Make the evening his: Never complain if he does not take you out to dinner or to other places of entertainment; instead, deny him all his "marriage privilages" untill he does. This is also how you get jewlry.
10. The goal: Try to make your home your kingdom. It's yours; don't let him forget it.

Enjoy being a spinster for the rest of your life.

I could never do all that.

I could never do all that.
Sure you could-thats where the rule of thumb comes in (joking, I would never hit a woman-well unless she asked me to )

I remember a discussion with my grandmother when I was a teen. We decided we both wanted a good wife. We just wanted him to be male. :D

my wife acts like that.... if she knows whats good for her... "clenches fist"

*Breathes, counts to ten.* I strongly disagree with this.
Hell, *I* strongly disagree with that!

Try to remember the time in which that was written, and devise your own ideals of what a good partner* should be. :)





* I've decided I don't like the terms "wife" and "husband" anymore.

my wife acts like that.... if she knows whats good for her... "clenches fist"
Here hear power brother!

1. Have dinner ready: Plan ahead, make sure you have plenty of frozen meals in your freezer. When he arrives pop a "Lean Cuisine" in the microwave. This is a way of letting him know that you have been thinking about him, and that he needs to lose weight. Most men are hungry when they come home, but thier tastebuds are so ill-refined that effort is not needed.

2. Prepare yourself: Write a list of chores he needs to do when he gets home. He has just been with a lot of work-weary people and so he probaly just wants to watch "The OC." Don't let him, the garage needs to be cleaned out.

3. Clear away the clutter. Make one last trip through the main part of the house just before your husband arrives, gathering up school books, toys, paper, etc. Then re-organize the house so that he'll never be able to find anything. Do this three times a week so that once he's gotten used to things, everything is changed. This will give you the ability to control him.

4. Prepare the children: Make sure to train them to scream at the top of thier lungs when he sits down to read the evening newspaper. Also give them large amounts of sugar right before he arrives.

5. Maximize the noise: At the time of his arrival, Play heavy metal music. Try to encourage the children to scream at the top of thier lungs. Act happy to see him. Greet him with a warm smile and pretend you can't hear him over the music.

6. Some Don'ts: Don't greet him with problems or complaints. Wisper them into his ear at night. Don't complain if he's late for dinner. If he's late, lock him out of the house.

7. Make him comfortable: Have him lean back in a comfortable chair or suggest he lie down in the bedroom. Have a cool or warm drink ready for him. Arrange his pillow and offer to take off his shoes. Speak in a low, soft, soothing and pleasant voice. Once he is relaxed make the dog jump on him.

8. Listen to him: You may have a dozen things to tell him, but the moment of his arrival is not the time. Let him talk first. Then tell him he's an idiot and instruct him on how to think properly.

9. Make the evening his: Never complain if he does not take you out to dinner or to other places of entertainment; instead, deny him all his "marriage privilages" untill he does. This is also how you get jewlry.

10. The goal: Try to make your home your kingdom. It's yours; don't let him forget it.


1: You do know that the TV dinner was invented to in the 50s? It was marketed to overworked housewives, in fact.

2:No on edoes chores at night. That's what weekends are for.

3:If what you want is where you look for it the first time then someone isn't working hard enough.

4: That only applies if you have children. Curtailing the rate of human population growth helps the enviroment and results in much disposable income.

5: Some people like Metal. In my opinion there is no such thing as too loud for Ozzy.

6: Exactly, people are always much more agreeable in bed.

7: Makes sense if you marry a bestalist.

8: Make sure to hit him with a giant mallet, as well. It should be ten tonnes, at least.

9: Passive agressivness is so cliched. Just be agressive.

10: I wouldn't recomend it. Jewel encrusted gold crowns are uncomfortably heavy. Also, Peter Griffin tried something similar with his home. The US hit him with severe trade sanctions.


The guide has good points but it works both ways. Both parties should be understanding and comforting.

http://pages.prodigy.net/fuic/images/Housewife.jpg

http://pages.prodigy.net/fuic/images/Housewife.jpg


I'm concerned about those children. Its difficult to tell from the angle of the picture but they're either doing one of two things.

Most likely, they are stealing from their mother's purse. However, it is possbile that the girl is watching the boy masturbate and they are using the purse to conceal the act.

This is great... I don't think I quite measure up...



HAHAHAHA!! I am, and always have been the breadwinner. I am 28, female, and have had a string of relationships with what can be easily described as male deadbeats who are good for only one purpose, and they better pray that that one purpose lasts more than 15 minutes. I have 4 words for any man who dates me:

Where's my dinner bitch?!

I'm concerned about those children. Its difficult to tell from the angle of the picture but they're either doing one of two things.

Most likely, they are stealing from their mother's purse. However, it is possbile that the girl is watching the boy masturbate and they are using the purse to conceal the act.

hahaha

actually, if you look closely, it looks like the father is helping as well.

HAHAHAHA!! I am, and always have been the breadwinner. I am 28, female, and have had a string of relationships with what can be easily described as male deadbeats who are good for only one purpose, and they better pray that that one purpose lasts more than 15 minutes. I have 4 words for any man who dates me:
Where's my dinner bitch?!

You mean any mouse who dates you :) c'mon you cant honestly believe you have been dating real men.

I'm concerned about those children. Its difficult to tell from the angle of the picture but they're either doing one of two things.
Most likely, they are stealing from their mother's purse. However, it is possbile that the girl is watching the boy masturbate and they are using the purse to conceal the act.

You know, this last comment really shows where your minds at.

Of course if the wife works later than the husband then the husband also has to do these things. I think it's a pretty good way to greet your spouse.

You know, this last comment really shows where your minds at.

There are people who watch Disney movies looking for artiacts that can be interperated as subliminal sexual messages. Oddly, these people believe themselves to be defenders of virtue. At least I don't delude myself.

This is great... I don't think I quite measure up...

The following is from a 1950's home economics textbook intended for high school girls, teaching them how to prepare for married life:
Cool i saw this 3 years ago impressive. ;)

"Be a little gay and a little more interesting."

*snicker*


Yes that would be a little more interesting! I sure 1950's husbands would have loved the sight of lesbian antics!!!!!

Wasn't it the fifties when all those legends about not trusting the milkman/travelling salesman sprung up? ;)

There are people who watch Disney movies looking for artiacts that can be interperated as subliminal sexual messages. Oddly, these people believe themselves to be defenders of virtue. At least I don't delude myself.

You are but,if you think those kids are doing what you think they are doing.

I want a 50's housewife.... and my fiancee is training up pretty well for a guy :D *giggles*

I want a 50's housewife.... and my fiancee is training up pretty well for a guy :D *giggles* I'd be quite worried if my wife approached me with a ribbon in her hair. Then again, I don't actually have a wife, so I'd be more worried if one suddenly appeared with a ribbon...

My wife is the best. She brought three damn good looking and intelligent kids into the world for me. She raises and cares for them wonderfully. She's a great cook and keeps a clean house. I work from home often and we do share most of the household business. Shes more than a wife-she is one of my best friends too. She supports and defends us all. She is vibrant and energetic and that boosts the rest of us. She also works full time-from home. I make substantially more than she does, but I think my job is easier than hers.

I think the problem with the list is that society has changed. Some for good and some for bad.
Marriage is no longer about only the man being pleased and that is good.
Marriages don't always work out and that is bad.
Both husband and wife have to be willing to "lay down their lives" for each other.
If you have one not willing to do that, then it won't work.
I, for instance, am married to one who wants to serve himself only. Not me or the kids.

The main problem is not most moms HAVE to work. I have to and I hate it.
I would love to stay at home and take care of my kids and my home.
I would love to be able to take a shot at some of those things on that list. :)

It took three tries, but I found this woman:

A woman of valor, who can find? Far beyond pearls is her value. Her husband's heart trusts in her and he shall lack no fortune. She repays his good, but never his harm, all the days of her life. She seeks out wool and linen, and her hands work willingly, She is like a merchant's ships; from afar she brings her sustenance. She rises while it is still nighttime, and gives food to her household and a ration to her maids. She considers a field and buys it; from the fruit of her handiwork she plants a vineyard. She girds her loins with might and strengthens her arms. She senses that her enterprise is good, so her lamp is not extinguished at night. She puts her hand to the distaff, and her palms support the spindle. She spreads out her palm to the poor and extends her hands to the destitute. She fears not snow for her household, for her entire household is clothed with scarlet wool. Bedspreads she makes herself; linen and purple wool are her clothing. Well-known at the gates is her husband as he sits with the elders of the land. Garments she makes and sells, and she delivers a belt to the peddler. Strength and splendor are her clothing, and smilingly she awaits her last day. She opens her mouth with Wisdom, and the teaching of kindness is on her tongue. She anticipates the needs of her household, and the bread of idleness, she does not eat. Her children rise and celebrate her; and her husband, he praises her: "Many daughters have attained valor, but you have surpassed them all." False is grace, and vain is beauty; a God-fearing woman, she should be praised. Give her the fruit of her hands, and she will be praised at the gates by her very own deeds. Proverbs 31:10-31

Yeah, I know it's archaic. I was only asking for a wife who would share the sacrifices and rewards of making a family. I went through two women who took a sudden dislike to being mothers AFTER having their children. It's one thing to suddenly dislike being married, and leave your husband - it's quite another to see a woman abandon her child.

Seen it twice now. Now I'm on wife number three, and things are definitely better. Make sure that you know that your spouse is really wanting what you want, and not just blowing smoke up your ass.

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7. Make him comfortable: Have him lean back in a comfortable chair or suggest he lie down in the bedroom. Have a cool or warm drink ready for him. Arrange his pillow and offer to take off his shoes. Speak in a low, soft, soothing and pleasant voice. Once he is relaxed make the dog jump on him.
.

ROFL :p

But seriously - My boyfriend gets up for work at 5:30 am ( :eek: ) and gets home about 3 hours earlier than me - so I make and pack his lunch for him while he showers in the morning (and then crawl back into bed- aaaah..) and he has dinner ready for me when I get home. It works out great for us . We share the other housework ,too.

My Grandmother was very much a 50's housewife ( more like 40's ) and my Grandfather loved and respected her above all things.. unfortunately, I don't think the ways of the 40's and 50's work for most people anymore - women have made great strides in equality and we just can't fathom being a " servant" to our mates. ( I know that it's not exactly a slave/master relationship- but it does have strong conotations of servitude ).

And Carnie - that was a really beautiful thing you said about your wife - ;)

And Carnie - that was a really beautiful thing you said about your wife - ;)

Well-thanks. Just words-she does so much more. I didnt mention all the paperwork she manages-crap I would never do. Our taxes-submitting and resubmitting health insurance claims. Bank paperwork, bills, etc.
And on top of that, we took her 92 yr old grandmother in-she lives with us for years now. She has many medical concerns that need attention, aside from the day to day meals and laundry. My wife does all this for her too.
I knew she was a good woman when I met her over 20 years ago-and she has only gotten better with time.

My mom tried to be one of those happy go lucky '50 wives....at the prompting of my grandma. It drove her slowly insane.
But she feels much better now *twitch*

by the by Luxey...very, very, funny! Imaginary milk came shooting out my nose. I especially like the bit about moving things just when your sure he knows where they are...I think my partner does this to me.....hmmmmm.

(I had to stop putting "wife" down for my partner. Folks keep thinking I'm a straight man)

This is great... I don't think I quite measure up...

The following is from a 1950's home economics textbook intended for high school girls, teaching them how to prepare for married life:

1. Have dinner ready: Plan ahead, even the night before, to have a delicious meal - on time. This is a way of letting him know that you have been thinking about him, and are concerned about his needs. Most men are hungry when they come home and the prospects of a good meal are part of the warm welcome needed.

2. Prepare yourself: Take 15 minutes to rest so you will be refreshed when he arrives. Touch up your makeup, put a ribbon in your hair and be fresh looking. He has just been with a lot of work-weary people. Be a little gay and a little more interesting. His boring day may need a lift.

3. Clear away the clutter. Make one last trip through the main part of the house just before your husband arrives, gathering up school books, toys, paper, etc. Then run a dust cloth over the tables. Your husband will feel he has reached a haven of rest and order, and it will give you a lift, too.

4. Prepare the children: Take a few minutes to wash the children's hands and faces if they are small, comb their hair, and if necessary, change their clothes. They are little treasures and he would like to see them playing the part.

5. Minimize the noise: At the time of his arrival, eliminate all noise of washer, dryer, dishwasher or vacuum. Try to encourage the children to be quiet. Be happy to see him. Greet him with a warm smile and be glad to see him.

6. Some Don'ts: Don't greet him with problems or complaints. Don't complain if he's late for dinner. Count this as minor compared with what he might have gone through that day.

7. Make him comfortable: Have him lean back in a comfortable chair or suggest he lie down in the bedroom. Have a cool or warm drink ready for him. Arrange his pillow and offer to take off his shoes. Speak in a low, soft, soothing and pleasant voice. Allow him to relax and unwind.

8. Listen to him: You may have a dozen things to tell him, but the moment of his arrival is not the time. Let him talk first.

9. Make the evening his: Never complain if he does not take you out to dinner or to other places of entertainment; instead, try to understand his world of strain and pressure, his need to be home and relax.

10. The goal: Try to make your home a place of peace and order where your husband can relax.


*Hysterical Laughter*

This is great... I don't think I quite measure up...

The following is from a 1950's home economics textbook intended for high school girls, teaching them how to prepare for married life:

1. Have dinner ready: Plan ahead, even the night before, to have a delicious meal - on time. This is a way of letting him know that you have been thinking about him, and are concerned about his needs. Most men are hungry when they come home and the prospects of a good meal are part of the warm welcome needed.

2. Prepare yourself: Take 15 minutes to rest so you will be refreshed when he arrives. Touch up your makeup, put a ribbon in your hair and be fresh looking. He has just been with a lot of work-weary people. Be a little gay and a little more interesting. His boring day may need a lift.

3. Clear away the clutter. Make one last trip through the main part of the house just before your husband arrives, gathering up school books, toys, paper, etc. Then run a dust cloth over the tables. Your husband will feel he has reached a haven of rest and order, and it will give you a lift, too.

4. Prepare the children: Take a few minutes to wash the children's hands and faces if they are small, comb their hair, and if necessary, change their clothes. They are little treasures and he would like to see them playing the part.

5. Minimize the noise: At the time of his arrival, eliminate all noise of washer, dryer, dishwasher or vacuum. Try to encourage the children to be quiet. Be happy to see him. Greet him with a warm smile and be glad to see him.

6. Some Don'ts: Don't greet him with problems or complaints. Don't complain if he's late for dinner. Count this as minor compared with what he might have gone through that day.

7. Make him comfortable: Have him lean back in a comfortable chair or suggest he lie down in the bedroom. Have a cool or warm drink ready for him. Arrange his pillow and offer to take off his shoes. Speak in a low, soft, soothing and pleasant voice. Allow him to relax and unwind.

8. Listen to him: You may have a dozen things to tell him, but the moment of his arrival is not the time. Let him talk first.

9. Make the evening his: Never complain if he does not take you out to dinner or to other places of entertainment; instead, try to understand his world of strain and pressure, his need to be home and relax.

10. The goal: Try to make your home a place of peace and order where your husband can relax.

The song "housewives" by DAAN is practicaly identical to this

1. Have dinner ready: Plan ahead, make sure you have plenty of frozen meals in your freezer. When he arrives pop a "Lean Cuisine" in the microwave. This is a way of letting him know that you have been thinking about him, and that he needs to lose weight. Most men are hungry when they come home, but thier tastebuds are so ill-refined that effort is not needed.

2. Prepare yourself: Write a list of chores he needs to do when he gets home. He has just been with a lot of work-weary people and so he probaly just wants to watch "The OC." Don't let him, the garage needs to be cleaned out.

3. Clear away the clutter. Make one last trip through the main part of the house just before your husband arrives, gathering up school books, toys, paper, etc. Then re-organize the house so that he'll never be able to find anything. Do this three times a week so that once he's gotten used to things, everything is changed. This will give you the ability to control him.

4. Prepare the children: Make sure to train them to scream at the top of thier lungs when he sits down to read the evening newspaper. Also give them large amounts of sugar right before he arrives.

5. Maximize the noise: At the time of his arrival, Play heavy metal music. Try to encourage the children to scream at the top of thier lungs. Act happy to see him. Greet him with a warm smile and pretend you can't hear him over the music.

6. Some Don'ts: Don't greet him with problems or complaints. Wisper them into his ear at night. Don't complain if he's late for dinner. If he's late, lock him out of the house.

7. Make him comfortable: Have him lean back in a comfortable chair or suggest he lie down in the bedroom. Have a cool or warm drink ready for him. Arrange his pillow and offer to take off his shoes. Speak in a low, soft, soothing and pleasant voice. Once he is relaxed make the dog jump on him.

8. Listen to him: You may have a dozen things to tell him, but the moment of his arrival is not the time. Let him talk first. Then tell him he's an idiot and instruct him on how to think properly.

9. Make the evening his: Never complain if he does not take you out to dinner or to other places of entertainment; instead, deny him all his "marriage privilages" untill he does. This is also how you get jewlry.

10. The goal: Try to make your home your kingdom. It's yours; don't let him forget it.


If I was married and my wife did this she'ed be moving out

Reading that list made me think just one thing:

Wow, men must really be pansies. Are they really that wussy, that they have to be handled like exhausted toddlers just because they worked all day? I work plenty hard, usually exhausting myself pretty well, and if my lover minced around me when I got home then I would slap his ass and tell him to grow a bloody spine. Who wants such a puny and pathetic partner in their life? What kind of weakling would actually seek out a relationship with a female of the sort promoted by that list?

Reading that list made me think just one thing:

Wow, men must really be pansies. Are they really that wussy, that they have to be handled like exhausted toddlers just because they worked all day? I work plenty hard, usually exhausting myself pretty well, and if my lover minced around me when I got home then I would slap his ass and tell him to grow a bloody spine. Who wants such a puny and pathetic partner in their life? What kind of weakling would actually seek out a relationship with a female of the sort promoted by that list?


I've been waiting all week for you to read this thread.

Reading that list made me think just one thing:

Wow, men must really be pansies. Are they really that wussy, that they have to be handled like exhausted toddlers just because they worked all day? I work plenty hard, usually exhausting myself pretty well, and if my lover minced around me when I got home then I would slap his ass and tell him to grow a bloody spine. Who wants such a puny and pathetic partner in their life? What kind of weakling would actually seek out a relationship with a female of the sort promoted by that list?

No, it's because when the ole lady gives a husband a hard time, he's like-as-not to whup her some. Or as you put it, slap her ass and tell her to grow a bloody spine.

I've been waiting all week for you to read this thread.
Lol, I'm on vacation, sorry to keep you waiting :).

Lol, I'm on vacation, sorry to keep you waiting :).


well after I read it and laughed myself to death....I thought.."wait till Bottle read this."
*chuckles*

well after I read it and laughed myself to death....I thought.."wait till Bottle read this."
*chuckles*
Grrrr! I'M AM FEMI-GODZILLA! ROAR!!!

Grrrr! I'M AM FEMI-GODZILLA! ROAR!!!

Femzilla.

Femzilla.

8. Listen to him: You may have a dozen things to tell him, but the moment of his arrival is not the time. Let him talk first.

Femzilla would likely reply with a bellowing roar

Reading that list made me think just one thing:
Wow, men must really be pansies. Are they really that wussy, that they have to be handled like exhausted toddlers just because they worked all day? I work plenty hard, usually exhausting myself pretty well, and if my lover minced around me when I got home then I would slap his ass and tell him to grow a bloody spine. Who wants such a puny and pathetic partner in their life? What kind of weakling would actually seek out a relationship with a female of the sort promoted by that list?

OK Ill bite,
You idiot, are you seriously suggesting that men who worked long shifts in mines, building sites, or any job that involves hard physical labor are wusses and pathetic? More like they were just plain exhausted when they got home, and lucky for them they had a sympathetic wife to tend to them, not some small brained shrew like you. With that self centred attitude of yours you would have been booted out the door within days.
Try to think for amoment, that times have changed, and there was alot more manual work in the fifties and before.
I bet if you were given a pick and thrown in a trench for afew days, you would be longing for the house.
Twit. :rolleyes:

uh oh

You idiot,

not some small brained shrew like you. With that self centred attitude of yours you would have been booted out the door within days.

Twit. :rolleyes:
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In all honesty, the manual isn't that bad an idea, if it was applied to both genders. It'd probably lessen the divorce rate a ton.

Hypocrite. You don't believe in marriage or sex remember, Mr. Asexual?

And the whole point was that it was not applied to both genders. It is inherently sexist.

These are rules for a happy, happy house-slave.

Any real man would want a real wife. A partner.

Excellent, I have been looking for that piece. Thanks to the original poster! I want to pin it up on my Hen's night so we can all have a good laugh at it.

My husband-to-be was between jobs for three weeks earlier this year. The house has never been cleaner. Sadly, when both of us are working (and I earn a LOT more than him) we are both too lazy to do much around the house, so we're quite untidy. What we really want is a robot servant like in the Jetsons. When are they going to invent those? I want one!

That said, I have trained my man to wash the dishes and take out the garbage, and I've learned how to cook at his suggestion. Quid pro quo.

Maybe I'll put the printout on the fridge, too, with all the gender pronouns changed... heh, heh)

My mom tried to be one of those happy go lucky '50 wives....at the prompting of my grandma. It drove her slowly insane.
But she feels much better now *twitch*

by the by Luxey...very, very, funny! Imaginary milk came shooting out my nose. I especially like the bit about moving things just when your sure he knows where they are...I think my partner does this to me.....hmmmmm.

(I had to stop putting "wife" down for my partner. Folks keep thinking I'm a straight man)

My mom never tried to be like that. Yeah, she still took care of things and you might even mistake her for filling that role, but god knows she was really the one in charge in that relationship. It wasn't even a sex thing, she was just a damned strong woman who could get what she wanted.

It drove my nanny (grandma on my dad's side) absolutely fucking crazy.

My mom never tried to be like that. Yeah, she still took care of things and you might even mistake her for filling that role, but god knows she was really the one in charge in that relationship. .

I'm still not sure if my mom really "wore the pants" or not...My maternal g-ma is a kick-ass scary lady who spends her Retirement tagging sharks, so I think mom would kick ass too....

As much as I shudder and laugh hysterically reading the list, I'm glad I had a stay at home mom (though dad would have been cool too). I liked home cooked meals and a clean house and sandwiches cut into hearts and stars. Mind you, doing that myself would drive me bonkers, which is why I won't breed, but kudos to the mom's and dad's who have done it.

Everyone take a moment to think warm fuzzies about stay at home parents who put their own personal sanity aside to raise a familly.

by by MSB! :)

Oh god, I wish I knew a gal like that. Well, a gal under 30.

no kidding. wouldn't it be nice...

Only a pathetic excuse for a man would want a mindless house slave or drooling sex puppy rather than a real partner for a spouse.

Only a pathetic excuse for a man would want a mindless house slave or drooling sex puppy rather than a real partner for a spouse.

Exactly. Like I said, if I wanted unwavering loyalty, I'd get a dog.

edit: What if I want a mindless house slave, a drooling sex puppy, and a real partner?

Only a pathetic excuse for a man would want a mindless house slave or drooling sex puppy rather than a real partner for a spouse.

you seem to say that sarcastically. there are alot of those around.

Exactly. Like I said, if I wanted unwavering loyalty, I'd get a dog.

sums it up quite well. of course, of all the dogs i've had, none of them were ever completly loyal. but i think thats more my fault then anything.

you seem to say that sarcastically. there are alot of those around.

:confused:

I meant exactly what I said.

Wanting that type of "spouse" is pathetic. It screams of insecurity, emotional vapidity, and stunted juvenile fantasy.

I love dogs. I love drooling sex puppies. I am a pathetic excuse for a man.

Does the textbook also teach men how to be good husbands?

If not, it's sickly discrimination.

Wanting that type of "spouse" is pathetic. It screams of insecurity, emotional vapidity, and stunted juvenile fantasy.

i agree with you, im just saying that the there are quite a few of those pathetic people around. sorry if i was unclear, i think thats my cue to go to sleep.