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So, according to your religion, how condemned am I? I:

1. Don't believe in one all-powerful diety.
2. Don't believe that if there is one all-powerful diety, it would present itself as male.
3. Don't believe in heaven or hell.
4. Believe that there may be higher powers, but if there are, most if not all of them would present themselves as female if they had any gender whatsoever.
5. Believe that if there are higher powers, they would be far too complex for our tiny human brains to comprehend.
6. Don't believe in reincarnation, but find it an interesting belief nonetheless.
7. Believe that if there is an afterlife, those who have done good things in life will be rewarded and those who have done bad things in life will be punished.
8. Don't belive in "satan" or "the devil".
9. Believe in extraterrestrial life. (Aliens are COOL!)
10. Believe in the possibility of vampires, ghosts, werewolfs, sirens, and like "mythological" creatures.
11. Do not nessecarily believe but enjoy the possiblity of validity in the "mythology" of ancient cultures.
12. Believe that if heaven and hell exist, I would most likely like to go to hell, as heaven would be terribly boring.
13. Believe Halloween is probably the coolest holiday ever.
14. Support gay marriage, human/pet marriage, pet/pet marriage, polygamy, etc.
15. Am fairly liberal biased, in the American sense of the word.
16. Am non-patriotic, apathetic, and fairly anarchist.
17. Have committed all seven deadly sins, I think... what are they again?
18. Like rock music.
19. Grew up on heavy metal.
20. Do not find any organized religion appealing.
21. Would describe myself as bisexual or bicurious.
22. Am female.
23. Am a virgin but not intending on "saving myself" until marriage.
24. Try to respect all religions but find public prayer/preaching and like actions annoying.
25. Hate the fact that I was born on December 25th.

I don't have a religion... but you're going to HELL.

I'll meet you there, 8pm.

I don't have a religion... but you're going to HELL.

I'll meet you there, 8pm.
COOL! :fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle:

you're perfectly fine in buddhism.

I'd say your fine! honestly!

So, according to your religion, how condemned am I? I:

1. Don't believe in one all-powerful diety.
2. Don't believe that if there is one all-powerful diety, it would present itself as male.
3. Don't believe in heaven or hell.
4. Believe that there may be higher powers, but if there are, most if not all of them would present themselves as female if they had any gender whatsoever.
5. Believe that if there are higher powers, they would be far too complex for our tiny human brains to comprehend.
6. Don't believe in reincarnation, but find it an interesting belief nonetheless.
7. Believe that if there is an afterlife, those who have done good things in life will be rewarded and those who have done bad things in life will be punished.
8. Don't belive in "satan" or "the devil".
9. Believe in extraterrestrial life. (Aliens are COOL!)
10. Believe in the possibility of vampires, ghosts, werewolfs, sirens, and like "mythological" creatures.
11. Do not nessecarily believe but enjoy the possiblity of validity in the "mythology" of ancient cultures.
12. Believe that if heaven and hell exist, I would most likely like to go to hell, as heaven would be terribly boring.
13. Believe Halloween is probably the coolest holiday ever.
14. Support gay marriage, human/pet marriage, pet/pet marriage, polygamy, etc.
15. Am fairly liberal biased, in the American sense of the word.
16. Am non-patriotic, apathetic, and fairly anarchist.
17. Have committed all seven deadly sins, I think... what are they again?
18. Like rock music.
19. Grew up on heavy metal.
20. Do not find any organized religion appealing.
21. Would describe myself as bisexual or bicurious.
22. Am female.
23. Am a virgin but not intending on "saving myself" until marriage.
24. Try to respect all religions but find public prayer/preaching and like actions annoying.
25. Hate the fact that I was born on December 25th.

#1 by itself damns you, according to Christianity.

As for #12... you wouldn't want to be in hell. Hell is (apparently) an eternally terrible place full of suffering.

you're perfectly fine in buddhism.
Yeah, Buddhism sounds cool. Is that one of the ones where you, like, meditate a lot? Please excuse my ignorance... I only know Christianity, and then, only a bit.

#1 by itself damns you, according to Christianity.

As for #12... you wouldn't want to be in hell. Hell is (apparently) an eternally terrible place full of suffering.
Ha. That's what they WANT you to think. But where will all the sexy badasses be? HELL!

I'd say you should hope that there's no god :D

But I'm in the same boat, don't worry. To be honest, lots of incredibly cool people and great friends that I know would go straight to hell, should it exist. So I figure I'll have good company, at the very least. So it can't be that bad.

Hell probably rocks. I'm talking nonstop rock concerts, wild orgies... the usual, y'know?

So, according to your religion, how condemned am I? I:

1. Don't believe in one all-powerful diety.
2. Don't believe that if there is one all-powerful diety, it would present itself as male.
3. Don't believe in heaven or hell.
4. Believe that there may be higher powers, but if there are, most if not all of them would present themselves as female if they had any gender whatsoever.
5. Believe that if there are higher powers, they would be far too complex for our tiny human brains to comprehend.
6. Don't believe in reincarnation, but find it an interesting belief nonetheless.
7. Believe that if there is an afterlife, those who have done good things in life will be rewarded and those who have done bad things in life will be punished.
8. Don't belive in "satan" or "the devil".
9. Believe in extraterrestrial life. (Aliens are COOL!)
10. Believe in the possibility of vampires, ghosts, werewolfs, sirens, and like "mythological" creatures.
11. Do not nessecarily believe but enjoy the possiblity of validity in the "mythology" of ancient cultures.
12. Believe that if heaven and hell exist, I would most likely like to go to hell, as heaven would be terribly boring.
13. Believe Halloween is probably the coolest holiday ever.
14. Support gay marriage, human/pet marriage, pet/pet marriage, polygamy, etc.
15. Am fairly liberal biased, in the American sense of the word.
16. Am non-patriotic, apathetic, and fairly anarchist.
17. Have committed all seven deadly sins, I think... what are they again?
18. Like rock music.
19. Grew up on heavy metal.
20. Do not find any organized religion appealing.
21. Would describe myself as bisexual or bicurious.
22. Am female.
23. Am a virgin but not intending on "saving myself" until marriage.
24. Try to respect all religions but find public prayer/preaching and like actions annoying.
25. Hate the fact that I was born on December 25th.

As a agnostic/atheist I give you my official fluffle :fluffle:
This entitles you to continue being whatever you wish because if a deity did not want us to be us then he should not have made us this way! (btw agree almost across the board)

I'd say you should hope that there's no god :D

But I'm in the same boat, don't worry. To be honest, lots of incredibly cool people and great friends that I know would go straight to hell, should it exist. So I figure I'll have good company, at the very least. So it can't be that bad.

Hell probably rocks. I'm talking nonstop rock concerts, wild orgies... the usual, y'know?
Exactly! :fluffle:

17. Have committed all seven deadly sins, I think... what are they again?
Pride, envy, wrath, sloth, avarice, gluttony, and lust .

As a agnostic/atheist I give you my official fluffle :fluffle:
This entitles you to continue being whatever you wish because if a deity did not want us to be us then he should not have made us this way! (btw agree almost across the board)
Well, I must reciprocate. I should've just named this "Zotona's Fluffle Thread"! :p :fluffle:

Oblivion, just like everyone else on the planet :)

According to my religion you are condemned to live a mortal life where you stand or fall by your own actions, during which your joys will be tempered with sadness. Also you may be punished with wet socks on rainy days.

Pride, envy, wrath, sloth, avarice, gluttony, and lust .
*checks off next to each one* yup I have done all!

1. Don't believe in one all-powerful diety.
2. Don't believe that if there is one all-powerful diety, it would present itself as male.
3. Don't believe in heaven or hell.
4. Believe that there may be higher powers, but if there are, most if not all of them would present themselves as female if they had any gender whatsoever.
5. Believe that if there are higher powers, they would be far too complex for our tiny human brains to comprehend.
6. Don't believe in reincarnation, but find it an interesting belief nonetheless.
7. Believe that if there is an afterlife, those who have done good things in life will be rewarded and those who have done bad things in life will be punished.
8. Don't belive in "satan" or "the devil".
9. Believe in extraterrestrial life. (Aliens are COOL!)
10. Believe in the possibility of vampires, ghosts, werewolfs, sirens, and like "mythological" creatures.
11. Do not nessecarily believe but enjoy the possiblity of validity in the "mythology" of ancient cultures.
12. Believe that if heaven and hell exist, I would most likely like to go to hell, as heaven would be terribly boring.
13. Believe Halloween is probably the coolest holiday ever.
14. Support gay marriage, human/pet marriage, pet/pet marriage, polygamy, etc.
15. Am fairly liberal biased, in the American sense of the word.
16. Am non-patriotic, apathetic, and fairly anarchist.
17. Have committed all seven deadly sins, I think... what are they again?
18. Like rock music.
19. Grew up on heavy metal.
20. Do not find any organized religion appealing.
21. Would describe myself as bisexual or bicurious.
22. Am female.
23. Am a virgin but not intending on "saving myself" until marriage.
24. Try to respect all religions but find public prayer/preaching and like actions annoying.
25. Hate the fact that I was born on December 25th.

You're not condemned at all. You're simply ignorant of Christianity. And I assure you, Hell will not be fun.

Well, I must reciprocate. I should've just named this "Zotona's Fluffle Thread"! :p :fluffle:
*turns up the slipknot and fluffles back* :)

You're not condemned at all. You're simply ignorant of Christianity. And I assure you, Hell will not be fun.
How do you know?

According to many major religions, your screwed. But hey, if your gonna go to hell, might as well enjoy life while it lasts!

And I have a question. Number 4: I've always wondered what gender God would have. We now know what you think, but what's your logic?

I personally believe God has no gender. I think a higher being would be beyond such mortal perceptions as "gender".

Pride, envy, wrath, sloth, avarice, gluttony, and lust .

Pride-Yes.
Envy-Yes.
Wrath-Yes.
Sloth-Yes.
Avarice-Yes.
Gluttony-Yes.
Lust-I think... pretty much... yes.

Oh, dear. If these "sins" are truely "deadly", why am I still alive?

How do you know?

Well the only views we have of Hell (Or the Underworld) from any religion clearly point to either a "Lake of Fire" and/or "A place of great suffering".

Well the only views we have of Hell (Or the Underworld) from any religion clearly point to either a "Lake of Fire" and/or "A place of great suffering".
So the short answer is you don’t … personally would rather be with some of the people that are going to hell then some I have met that fit most religions standards of going to heaven
Much better character

According to many major religions, your screwed. But hey, if your gonna go to hell, might as well enjoy life while it lasts!

And I have a question. Number 4: I've always wondered what gender God would have. We now know what you think, but what's your logic?

I personally believe God has no gender. I think a higher being would be beyond such mortal perceptions as "gender".
Well, that would be my personal bias against men. :p I guess I'm pretty feminist, plus I like to say that the Christian "god" would be female to TICK people off. ;)

Pride-Yes.
Envy-Yes.
Wrath-Yes.
Sloth-Yes.
Avarice-Yes.
Gluttony-Yes.
Lust-I think... pretty much... yes.

Oh, dear. If these "sins" are truely "deadly", why am I still alive?

You misunderstand the meaning behind "The Seven Deadly Sins". They aren't lethal in the sense that if you commit them, then you automatically die. Every Human as in some form or another committed those sins, even I.

What the term "Deadly" means, and if you think about it, it is those things (pride, lust, sloth, wrath, ect, ect) that cause most of humanities suffering in the world. Hence the phrase "The Seven Deadly Sins".

Well, that would be my personal bias against men. :p I guess I'm pretty feminist, plus I like to say that the Christian "god" would be female to TICK people off. ;)
I don’t know being a hermaphrodite might piss off the conservatives more :D

COOL! :fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle:

Counter-fluffle!

:fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle:

So the short answer is you don’t … personally would rather be with some of the people that are going to hell then some I have met that fit most religions standards of going to heaven
Much better character

Tell me, what do these people who you feel meet "religious" standards act like?

You misunderstand the meaning behind "The Seven Deadly Sins". They aren't lethal in the sense that if you commit them, then you automatically die. Every Human as in some form or another committed those sins, even I.

What the term "Deadly" means, and if you think about it, it is those things (pride, lust, sloth, wrath, ect, ect) that cause most of humanities suffering in the world. Hence the phrase "The Seven Deadly Sins".
Ahh... got it. I think hate and intolerance causes all the suffering in the world. That's just me, though. To each their own religious/political/moral beliefs, right?

Ahh... got it. I think hate and intolerance causes all the suffering in the world. That's just me, though. To each their own religious/political/moral beliefs, right?

You are correct. Hate and intolerance do cause suffering. I agree, to each his own religious/political/moral beliefs. Though there is nothing wrong with enocuraging (and there is a FINE line between encouraging and forcing) others to see things your way.

I don’t know being a hermaphrodite might piss off the conservatives more :D
No, I think there was a thread on this forum asking what "god's" gender was. Most said that "it" would have both male and female characteristics, if I recall. Only a very small majority said "it" would be female.

Yeah, Buddhism sounds cool. Is that one of the ones where you, like, meditate a lot? Please excuse my ignorance... I only know Christianity, and then, only a bit.

it's one of the spokes of the eightfold path.

According to my religion, you qualify for membership. :D

~Official Message from the Pope of the Athiest Church of Rock~Listen to AC/DC or other good bands, or burn in Pop Rock Hell!~

So, according to your religion, how condemned am I? I:

18. Like rock music.

DOOMED!! Though it could certainly be worse. ;)

Tell me, what do these people who you feel meet "religious" standards act like?
You know the type and I know the arguments I am going to say things like self important and self loving and a lot of other things I see wrong with the stuck up old church ladies and you are just going to claim they are not true believers in “insert religion here”
Then I am going to point out how there are hundreds of loving people that try to do best for their fellow man but don’t have faith (which in Christianity means they are going to hell … though there are some arguments based on re judging based on works after a thousand years of hell)

But its just going to go on and on … there are some cool people that if faith is the key going to hell but there are a hell of a lot of good people (by my book) that have no faith but are a great asset to their fellow man

it's one of the spokes of the eightfold path.
Yeah. My mom really likes meditation. That and yoga breathing. It's not really my thing.

No, I think there was a thread on this forum asking what "god's" gender was. Most said that "it" would have both male and female characteristics, if I recall. Only a very small majority said "it" would be female.
But most of those votes were probably us atheists/agnostics we have a tendency to be a majority around here :)

(and that is characteristics not sex ... but yeah)

Yeah. My mom really likes meditation. That and yoga breathing. It's not really my thing.

yoga's from brahamanism(or something similiar to that. can't spell it)

According to my religion, you qualify for membership. :D

~Official Message from the Pope of the Athiest Church of Rock~Listen to AC/DC or other good bands, or burn in Pop Rock Hell!~
No, I don't get into the club. After all, I also enjoy pop rock, soul, r&b, hip-hop, classical, jazz, reggae, reggaeton, techno... I can even enjoy pop and country. :eek:

yoga's from brahamanism(or something similiar to that. can't spell it)
Oh. Like I said, I'm pretty ignorant when it comes to religion. I just have my own beliefs, and that's all I feel I need to know.

You know the type and I know the arguments I am going to say things like self important and self loving and a lot of other things I see wrong with the stuck up old church ladies and you are just going to claim they are not true believers in “insert religion here”
Then I am going to point out how there are hundreds of loving people that try to do best for their fellow man but don’t have faith (which in Christianity means they are going to hell … though there are some arguments based on re judging based on works after a thousand years of hell)

But its just going to go on and on … there are some cool people that if faith is the key going to hell but there are a hell of a lot of good people (by my book) that have no faith but are a great asset to their fellow man

Erm....not quite, lol. The 'stuck up old church ladies', well I wouldn't go as far as to say their not true believers, more like their hearts are hardened due to some event in their life or they simply view themselves as better then you, which isn't the right thing to do.

Though I asked that to see what you meant, cause there are thousands of different types of peoples out there.

Well, let me start by explaining my religion to you:

I believe that there is some supernatural being, I imagine it to be the one being the set off existence with the Big Bang. After that, this being just leaned back and enjoyed the show.
It is neither male nor female, it is far more complex and advanced than that.
It has a really queer sense of humor.

So, answering your question: "Sin" in my religion means acting in a way that hurts (psychologically or physically) another human being and disrespecting other creatures and nature as a whole.
You didn't describe anything in your list that would meet those criteria, so according to my religion, you're not guilty of anything.

About hell, my great-grandfather, a firm Roman-Catholic, used to say that he wants to go to hell rather than heaven, because that's were all the pretty girls will be.

Btw., in my opinion, all human beings are basically bisexual. Most of them are just too afraid to ever try it ;)

Erm....not quite, lol. The 'stuck up old church ladies', well I wouldn't go as far as to say their not true believers, more like their hearts are hardened due to some event in their life or they simply view themselves as better then you, which isn't the right thing to do.

Though I asked that to see what you meant, cause there are thousands of different types of peoples out there.
I would personally rather be with my friends and those that can understand me then the intolerant type that seems breed on the other side sometimes
Lets just say they go against my morals as much as some things we want goes against theirs

We want to be stuck with them for eternity about as much as they us

Well, let me start by explaining my religion to you:

I believe that there is some supernatural being, I imagine it to be the one being the set off existence with the Big Bang. After that, this being just leaned back and enjoyed the show.
It is neither male nor female, it is far more complex and advanced than that.
It has a really queer sense of humor.

So, answering your question: "Sin" in my religion means acting in a way that hurts (psychologically or physically) another human being and disrespecting other creatures and nature as a whole.
You didn't describe anything in your list that would meet those criteria, so according to my religion, you're not guilty of anything.

About hell, my great-grandfather, a firm Roman-Catholic, used to say that he wants to go to hell rather than heaven, because that's were all the pretty girls will be.

Btw., in my opinion, all human beings are basically bisexual. Most of them are just too afraid to ever try it ;)
Really? You get a fluffle! :fluffle:

So the short answer is you don’t … personally would rather be with some of the people that are going to hell then some I have met that fit most religions standards of going to heaven
Much better character

Religious people without better character probably won't be in Heaven either. You'll have plenty of time to mock them.

It's not just about having better character. It's about realizing everything, in the long run. is better when one follows God's scriptures and not the individuals teaching or not teaching it. If someone helps the widows and orphans, obeys civil law, does not murder or steal, thinks of their families above themselves is it so bad. You've met religious people more concerned with pride and what others think of them than what Jesus thinks of them.

Sadly enough to answer the first question: you are condemned to suffering. God gives us a way out though.

Religious people without better character probably won't be in Heaven either. You'll have plenty of time to mock them.

It's not just about having better character. It's about realizing everything, in the long run. is better when one follows God's scriptures and not the individuals teaching or not teaching it. If someone helps the widows and orphans, obeys civil law, does not murder or steal, thinks of their families above themselves is it so bad. You've met religious people more concerned with pride and what others think of them than what Jesus thinks of them.

Sadly enough to answer the first question: you are condemned to suffering. God gives us a way out though.
*Giggles.*

Religious people without better character probably won't be in Heaven either. You'll have plenty of time to mock them.

It's not just about having better character. It's about realizing everything, in the long run. is better when one follows God's scriptures and not the individuals teaching or not teaching it. If someone helps the widows and orphans, obeys civil law, does not murder or steal, thinks of their families above themselves is it so bad. You've met religious people more concerned with pride and what others think of them than what Jesus thinks of them.

Sadly enough to answer the first question: you are condemned to suffering. God gives us a way out though.
Personally I would rather not believe in a deity that programmed me with natural doubts such as this and going to condemn me for being me that is not someone I hold worthy of worship

If I am condemned to hell so be it but I am going to go on with life being me and being the best I can be irregardless if one of the many religions out there says I am going to hell

*Giggles.*
Lol maybe I am a masochist :) I might love that ;)

*moans ohhh god torture me more*

For my non-Christian buddies here, let me tell you what happened to me yesterday.

Okay, I'm homeschooled. The only things my homeschool require more than the state are grades and attendence at the annual orientation meeting and high school student graduation. It being the end of the year (some students have already ended the year) for homeschoolers, the graduation was held last night.

One of the mothers from the group got up and went on and on, preaching and praying and reading passages from the Bible... here are some quotes from her hateful speech:
Satan is lies, God.
Me: Way to alienate all the Satanists in the room, lady.
I know there are some people in this room who have not embraced you and do not love you and do not know your way, God. They are condemned and I pray for their souls.
Me: Way to alienate all the agnostics, atheists, and non-Christian theists in the room, lady.
I love you, God. Do you know how much I love you?
Me: She goes on and on about this. As she did, mom whispered, "This lady is a lunatic", causing me to dissolve into hysterical giggles.
I am [glad?] to be spreading your word so boldly.
Me: This was laughable. Her voice was grating, high-pitched, and irritating, and her message was not at all "bold".

I found myself wishing I had a big red button I could press at optimal times that would cause the words "Harry Potter!" to be screamed from random individuals in the audience. What would you have done if you were me?

Nothing wrong with being all you can, it's encouraged by me, you and God. Pushing yourself to greater heights of achievement is fundamental to success here on this rock we live on.

Imagine making a mp3 of a woman you desire saying "I love you" Would this automated response cause joy? Maybe at first, remembering her face as she spoke into the microphone but it would fade. A bygone icon on your desktop.

Step into Real Life (tm) and foster a relationship with a woman who expresses love not in response to a programmed stymuli like a icon or button, but says it because she values your company, trusts you and desires to learn more about you.

Automaton worshippers please noone. Each of us loves or not loves out of a free willed conscious decision. We must choose to be a part of the relationship. At this point you have chosen not to, I hope in the future you consider it.

Nothing wrong with being all you can, it's encouraged by me, you and God. Pushing yourself to greater heights of achievement is fundamental to success here on this rock we live on.

Imagine making a mp3 of a woman you desire saying "I love you" Would this automated response cause joy? Maybe at first, remembering her face as she spoke into the microphone but it would fade. A bygone icon on your desktop.

Step into Real Life (tm) and foster a relationship with a woman who expresses love not in response to a programmed stymuli like a icon or button, but says it because she values your company, trusts you and desires to learn more about you.

Automaton worshippers please noone. Each of us loves or not loves out of a free willed conscious decision. We must choose to be a part of the relationship. At this point you have chosen not to, I hope in the future you consider it.

I did used to believe my past shoved me away from organized religion all together … If I ever talk myself into believing in an un-provable deity It will not be with some grand potentially abusive organization surrounding it with their dogma

What would you have done if you were me?

Pretended to be possesed and yell some nice obsceneties at her?

1. Don't believe in one all-powerful diety.
2. Don't believe that if there is one all-powerful diety, it would present itself as male.
3. Don't believe in heaven or hell.
4. Believe that there may be higher powers, but if there are, most if not all of them would present themselves as female if they had any gender whatsoever.
5. Believe that if there are higher powers, they would be far too complex for our tiny human brains to comprehend.
6. Don't believe in reincarnation, but find it an interesting belief nonetheless.
7. Believe that if there is an afterlife, those who have done good things in life will be rewarded and those who have done bad things in life will be punished.
8. Don't belive in "satan" or "the devil".
9. Believe in extraterrestrial life. (Aliens are COOL!)
10. Believe in the possibility of vampires, ghosts, werewolfs, sirens, and like "mythological" creatures.
11. Do not nessecarily believe but enjoy the possiblity of validity in the "mythology" of ancient cultures.
12. Believe that if heaven and hell exist, I would most likely like to go to hell, as heaven would be terribly boring.
13. Believe Halloween is probably the coolest holiday ever.
14. Support gay marriage, human/pet marriage, pet/pet marriage, polygamy, etc.
15. Am fairly liberal biased, in the American sense of the word.
16. Am non-patriotic, apathetic, and fairly anarchist.
17. Have committed all seven deadly sins, I think... what are they again?
18. Like rock music.
19. Grew up on heavy metal.
20. Do not find any organized religion appealing.
21. Would describe myself as bisexual or bicurious.
22. Am female.
23. Am a virgin but not intending on "saving myself" until marriage.
24. Try to respect all religions but find public prayer/preaching and like actions annoying.
25. Hate the fact that I was born on December 25th.

with the exception of 21, 22 and 25 we have got to be on the same wavelength or something. Evolution is the way forward!!! (pun intended)


(honestly)

What would you have done if you were me?
That might have been a nice time to go up and hold a short Satanic prayer. I mean, if Christians are allowed to pray, surely everybody else is too?

Or, get a bunch of people to pose as members of all sorts of obscure religions and come up and do their own lenghty prayers/reading of verses.

The episode reminds me of the parable of the publican and the pharisee. The pharisee stood on the corner and made bold statements about how he saved the day for God by giving more than required and so on and so on. The publican, possibly an embezzler, hangs his head and says he's a sinner and asked forgiveness.

Jesus said the tax embezzling Publican was more justified than the habitually public praying, extra donating, law obiding pillar of the community Pharisee because he was honest and meek.

The lady praying may have made the prayer as a slight to you and your mother, if she did, she was using God's time for her own uses much like the Pharisee did.

Do you need to be told the truth? yes Do you need to know about Christ teachings? yes But to be bold, would have been to address the two of you in private in a meek and honest way. Her actions have helped you to add bricks between you and God. Bad move on her part because you may be the one paying the piper at the end of days.

(fist in the air) GO HOMESCHOOLERS!!! We homeschool our brats. Perfroming above grade level needless to say. Socrates, Plato, Lenardo de Vinci, George Washington, Abraham Lincoln were homeschoolers too.