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Favourite Sci-Fi Space Weapon?

Shadowstorm Imperium
18-05-2005, 01:37
Choices, choices...

In case anyone doesn't know what a relativistic kill vehicle is, it's a projectile accelerated to a significant fraction of the speed of light, which makes it virtually unstoppable, and difficult to detect and react to in time. Useful for targets which cannot move out of the way.

Let me just restate this: the thread is about SPACE weapons, not personal weapons. I.e. it's about spaceship armaments, orbital weapons satellites, and similar, not about anything a person would carry in their hands. If you want to mention about those, I suggest creating a new thread.
Eastern Coast America
18-05-2005, 01:45
Rail Gun
Riverlund
18-05-2005, 01:46
What, no lightsaber?
Holy Sheep
18-05-2005, 01:47
Dr. Device.
Shadowstorm Imperium
18-05-2005, 01:48
What, no lightsaber?

It's about space weapons (like for spaceships, etc), not personal weapons.
Eastern Coast America
18-05-2005, 01:48
Dr. Device.

Good Answer.

*claps*
Gartref
18-05-2005, 01:51
The Orgasmatron.
Hiroshiko
18-05-2005, 01:52
Those laser things on the spaceships in the movie Independence Day are sweet! They're my favs, but they destroyed Human cities so...I dunno, lol.
Hiroshiko
18-05-2005, 01:52
The Orgasmatron.

Hahahaha!
Kibolonia
18-05-2005, 01:53
Particle accelerators used to trigger a spontanious phase transition of the vacuum destroying the universe in a new Big Bang. I think there's a PDF out there describing why this likely won't happen at Brookhaven.

Other than that, I'm going to have to go with Gunbuster 3 which was used to destroy almost all of the Galaxy.
Subterranean_Mole_Men
18-05-2005, 01:54
The Orgasmatron.
The cock rocket!
Bolol
18-05-2005, 01:56
The Magnetic Accelerator Cannon!
Shadowstorm Imperium
18-05-2005, 01:57
The Magnetic Accelerator Cannon!

What's that?
Bonferoni
18-05-2005, 01:58
The cock rocket!
....could be a weapon....choda dog (with his dildo hat!)
Eastern Coast America
18-05-2005, 02:05
What's that?

A very big fucking railgun.

It's from the Halo books.
Tenarius
18-05-2005, 02:06
Quantum Torpedoes all the way.
Shadowstorm Imperium
18-05-2005, 02:08
A very big fucking railgun.

It's from the Halo books.

Maybe I should have specified "or other high-velocity projectile" next to "relativistic kill vehicle" (I assume that the Magnetic Accelerator Cannon isn't relativistic?)
Armandian Cheese
18-05-2005, 02:13
The Death Star.
Sdaeriji
18-05-2005, 02:16
John Crichton's wormhole weapon. The power to destroy galaxies in under 5 minutes is kind of hot.
Shadowstorm Imperium
18-05-2005, 02:21
A lot of people like uber-weapons, I see. They look good on screen, but don't make for very long battles.
Valosia
18-05-2005, 02:25
I like those green lasers that come from TIE fighters with the screamy noise they make.
Nekone
18-05-2005, 02:28
Bolos...

barring that, the SDF 1 and it's main Gun.


Otherwise, the Deus X Machina.
Shadowstorm Imperium
18-05-2005, 02:30
Here's a thought - in sci-fi, spacecraft often fly as if they are aeroplanes, which is unrealistic. In reality, they can do some fancy maneuvers that planes can't - e.g. rotating to face a different direction without changing the speed or direction of travel - useful for a spacecraft that is being chased (and can only fire forward).
Nekone
18-05-2005, 02:34
Here's a thought - in sci-fi, spacecraft often fly as if they are aeroplanes, which is unrealistic. In reality, they can do some fancy maneuvers that planes can't - e.g. rotating to face a different direction without changing the speed or direction of travel - useful for a spacecraft that is being chased (and can only fire forward).Like they show in the latest incarnation of Battlestar Galatica... only problem tho. depending on how you rotate, you will present a better target for your chaser to shoot at.
Feil
18-05-2005, 02:39
You dare have a scifi weapon page without a lightsaber?!

Boo!
Shadowstorm Imperium
18-05-2005, 02:40
You dare have a scifi weapon page without a lightsaber?!

Boo!

It's not a sci-fi weapon page, it's a sci-fi SPACE weapon page. Have you ever seen a spaceship wielding a lightsaber?
Letila
18-05-2005, 02:43
Psychological beam, like Arael from Neon Genesis Evangelion, that or the Lance of Longinus. The Death Star was also cool.
Neo-Anarchists
18-05-2005, 02:45
Have you ever seen a spaceship wielding a lightsaber?
It might work if you were tryingt to ram the other ship...
But somehow, I don't think ramming a spaceship into another is going to be much of a survivable maneuver.
Club House
18-05-2005, 02:45
lightsabre
Nekone
18-05-2005, 02:48
It's not a sci-fi weapon page, it's a sci-fi SPACE weapon page. Have you ever seen a spaceship wielding a lightsaber?Gundam
Gundam 0083... you see Mobile Armor with Laser Swords/Lances.
Kibolonia
18-05-2005, 02:56
Those are *beam* sabres/lances/spears/axes/polearms/farm impliments.[/pedantry]
Upper Dobbs Town
18-05-2005, 03:01
Why, the Kill-O-Zap™ gun of course.


"A long, silver mean-looking device, the designers of which decided to make it totally clear that it had a right end, and a wrong end, and if that meant sticking blacked and evil-looking devices and prongs all over the wrong end, so be it."
Super-power
18-05-2005, 03:19
My favorite (http://hk.geocities.com/leowallpaperstore/Gundam.rx-78.jpg)
Sdaeriji
18-05-2005, 03:30
A lot of people like uber-weapons, I see. They look good on screen, but don't make for very long battles.

Meh. I don't care for long battles. I care for aesthetics. And the wormhole weapon looks sweet.

http://www.cgnetworks.com/stories/2004_12/farscape_peacekeeper/ships.jpg
http://www4.discreet.com/images/showcase/burn/idol_farscape_06_thumb.jpg
Super-power
18-05-2005, 03:40
Gundam
Gundam 0083... you see Mobile Armor with Laser Swords/Lances.
Here (http://www.gearsonline.net/designers/dendrobium.jpg) it is - the GP03 Dendrobium Stamen. There's also a similar weapons platorm from Gundam SEED known as METEOR (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v319/KiraYamato21/GundamSeedFreedomGundamcombinedwithMeteor1.jpg) (Mobilesuit Embeded Tactical EnfORcer)
Lord-General Drache
18-05-2005, 04:57
John Crichton's wormhole weapon. The power to destroy galaxies in under 5 minutes is kind of hot.

Heh..agreed.


The Neutronium Alchemist. hehe. Awesome weapon.

Why, the Kill-O-Zap™ gun of course.


"A long, silver mean-looking device, the designers of which decided to make it totally clear that it had a right end, and a wrong end, and if that meant sticking blacked and evil-looking devices and prongs all over the wrong end, so be it."

Also a good one.However, the POV gun was a nifty idea,too.
Mazalandia
18-05-2005, 05:11
I have several
Rail Gun
Anti collaspar weapon (Hurrikku device out of the End Of the Matter. Punches a hole through this dimesion to destroy black holes)
Plasma Rifle/Plasma Sword
Shadow Weaver (warhammer 40K Weapon Fires nets of monofilamanet wires. Works like Predator net except finer)
My absolute favourite is the minigun that fires shotgun shells in Split Second
Mazalandia
18-05-2005, 05:24
Just read thread properly, so my favourite SPACE weapon is the Deathbeams from Hyperion and Endymion
Destroys brain synapses at speed of light so effective on all intelligent organic enemies
Either that or the Shrike also out of Hyperion and Endymion
Time travelling robot/golem that's 3m tall, 1000+ kg, rips admantium robots in half, can not be destroyed and covered in spikes and blades. Moves through time so fast it looks like a army of them.
NERVUN
18-05-2005, 05:44
The Death Star.
The ability to destroy a planet is insignificant compared to the power of the Force!

Sorry, couldn't resist. ;)

Personally I liked the Macross Canon.
Druidville
18-05-2005, 05:56
Death Star.

Or Wave Motion Gun, from Star Blazers.
Karas
18-05-2005, 06:10
John Crichton's wormhole weapon. The power to destroy galaxies in under 5 minutes is kind of hot.

The only problem is that you have to be the galaxy in order to use it. Doomsday weapons work so much better when you can survive using them.


I'll go with the Washuu's Dimensional Cannon from Tenchi Muyo in Love. Powerful enough to destroy a galaxy and it has range.
Thetachron
18-05-2005, 06:11
The Ion Cannon from Command & Conquer was sweet, i liked the way they implemented it in a present day environment. When you could blow up the eiffel tower.
Mutated Sea Bass
18-05-2005, 06:30
Blaster.
Harlesburg
18-05-2005, 06:41
It's about space weapons (like for spaceships, etc), not personal weapons.
The Death Star is my Personel Weapon F00!
BLACKGRUE
18-05-2005, 06:47
Borg Pyramid. 6 hours with a planet and it's yours.
Incenjucarania
18-05-2005, 07:22
Whale Rail Gun

Would YOU mess with someone firing off decompressing orcas?
Delator
18-05-2005, 08:43
Nearly 50 posts and nobody has yet mentioned Unicron?

For shame...
Mutated Sea Bass
18-05-2005, 08:53
Borg Pyramid. 6 hours with a planet and it's yours.

I thought it was a cube?
Karas
18-05-2005, 10:08
Nearly 50 posts and nobody has yet mentions Unicron?

For shame...

I would have but he technically isn't a weapon. Its got to be fun to rip appart planets with your bare hands.
Constantinopolis
18-05-2005, 10:25
I don't like any of the innumerable incarnations of the OMG BIG RAY OF DOOM!!! :rolleyes:

I prefer more realistic weapons. So it's the Relativistic Kill Vehicle for me!
Delator
18-05-2005, 10:28
I would have but he technically isn't a weapon. Its got to be fun to rip appart planets with your bare hands.

True, but I much prefer "planet mode"...mass destruction should be as impersonal as possible.

Besides, spaceships can still escape while in "person mode", while the "planet mode" not only has the inescapable tractor beam...but provides fuel for the planet killer. :D
Lord-General Drache
18-05-2005, 10:38
Whale Rail Gun

Would YOU mess with someone firing off decompressing orcas?

Yes, because I'd be just the person to use it.
Christoniac
18-05-2005, 10:39
The planet killers death ray of Ub3r 1337 d00m from warhammer 40k.

You just cant resis the old charm of a death ray *cuddles his giant deathray*
BlinkingHellism
18-05-2005, 10:48
I am not sure if DC Comics qualify as Sci-Fi but the most powerful weapon in the universe has to be Green Lanterns Power Ring. Limited only by the wearers imagination, any 'conventional weapon' must be defensible against i.e. any relitivistic projectile would not penetrate an enormously massive shield. something this flexible must be the best.

BTW I am not familiar with the Wormhole Weapon but don't wormholes lead somewhere, and therefore are they not 'two way streets'

It is not enough to count heads, you must also weigh them!
Intangelon
18-05-2005, 10:55
1. Star Blazers'/Live Forever Yamato's Wave Motion Gun: both massive weapon AND allegory for nuclear weapons in that it's only a "last resort". Nice allegory from the country who had a "last resort" weapon used on them. Twice.

2. Shadow ships' beams from Babylon 5. 'Nuff said.

3. Updated Enterprise-D phasers: That whole thing they do when the energy circles the "phaser array" and then lances out at the target? Way cool.

4. Phil Foglio/Nick Pollotta's STOP THAT gun from Illegal Aliens: When fired, it makes the target, well, "stop that." Priceless.

5. The Wraiths' ass-kicking beam weapons from Escape Velocity: Nova. You want its shields down and its hull bisected? Will three seconds be fast enough?

6. The new Battlestar Galactica Vipers' mass drivers.

7. Old school Star Wars X-wing cannons. Coolest medium weapon sound effect ever.

8. Back to Star Blazers for their deck gun turrets. Yes, they were alternately very effective or spitball useless, but another very cool sound effect. In fact, all the weapon sound effects on that movie/show were very well done.

9. Spaceballs and Lone Star's radar jammer. Raspberry.

10. Farscape and how the energy pistols they used distorted the air around their projectiles (and also how their overload mode was creatively used). I know other shows (Stargate SG-1, et al.) have this effect now, but it's still impressive and somehow "realistic".

HONORABLE MENTION:
The Ko-Dan Armada's meteor driver from The Last Starfighter. Almost plausible.

These are a few of my favorite guns.
German Nightmare
18-05-2005, 10:57
The Death Star.

Yes!!! My choice exactly. I had hoped someone would finally say it!
Huahin
18-05-2005, 11:04
The Magnetic Accelerator Cannon!
That was the the third revenge weapon used by the Nazis (V3).
The Tribes Of Longton
18-05-2005, 11:06
Relativistic kill vehicles. I suppose the MAC guns from halo are a sort of example - they fire massive lumps of iron by accelerating them to some scary velocity (I don't think the books every say, but they tear great thunking holes in stuff) using gigantic alternating magnetic fields. Just imagine the momentum of a tonne of iron moving that bloody fast. It isn't a truly über-weapon a lá Wormhole weapons, but for me it has far more style. Besides, a wormhole weapon is a teensy bit too large if you have one enemy and they live in the same galaxy. ;)
BackwoodsSquatches
18-05-2005, 11:09
Death Star.

No question.
Der Angst
18-05-2005, 11:45
I prefer more realistic weapons. So it's the Relativistic Kill Vehicle for me!*Mutters darkly about energy requirements and lasers being vastly more realistic than macroskopic, relativistic KE weapons*

Ahem.

Favourites:

1. The Anti-Warship Spacesword Dizaster. Source: Gunnm (Battle Angel Alita): Last Order, Issue #5 (I think). There's nothing siller, and thus, nothing better, than slicing spaceships with mere swords.

Well, Multistory-building sized swords. But still.

2. The Lexx. Source: Lexx: The Dark Zone. Silly Deatstar, needs so much more volume for the same effect...

3. Shadow Planetkiller. Source: Babylon 5. A planetkilling cloud...

4. The Clear Air Turbulence's laser. Source: Consider Phlebas (Culture Novel). It might just be a generic laser, but the coolness factor of using it to slice your way through a General Systems Vehicle... Yeah.

5. Neutral Particle Beam. Source: Real Life (Experimental, Single- Digit Joules, not an actually existing weapon). Funny, to simply vaporise through $Target

6. Bomb-Pumped Coherent High Frequency EM Radiation (Laser and so on). Source: Real Life. Your 'reactor' is a nuke. And nukes are shiny. Literally. Besides, superheating the target's internal atmosphere, resulting in a miniature-nuclear blast, is amusing.

Most hated:

1. Deatstar. Source: Star Wank. Silly in the extreme, used by Warsies to masturbate over half the galaxy.

2. Phasers. Source: Star Trek. Engagement ranges of hundreds of metres to singledigit kilometres? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

3. Turbolasers. Source: Star Wank. What the fuck does 'Turbo' mean? And the engagement range isn't terribly impressive, either...

4. Relativistic Kill Vehicle. Source: Variety of SciFi authors failing to do their thermodynamics homework. As a little hint: To get gigaton yields one has to produce gigatons of energy in the first place <.< And there are also things like Lorentz Transformation in this universe...

5. Antimatter stuff. Source: To many to count. Again, one has to produce it first, and containment will always be an issue. ARGH >.<
Kaledan
18-05-2005, 13:04
A Rail Gun ain't no sci-fi weapon no more, boys and girls.

"Okay, Vulcan Jew, you stay here in the shuttlecraft."
Der Angst
18-05-2005, 13:42
A Rail Gun ain't no sci-fi weapon no more, boys and girls.A reusable one capable of accelerating $Projectile to a couple hundred km/s still is :P

I mean, colonies on Mars are SciFi as well, despite us sending vehicles to it, no?
Czardas
18-05-2005, 13:43
My favorite is the ISAV - Intergalactic Standard Annihilation Vehicle. It's controlled by mind touch, a computer chip in your brain that takes the vehicle anywhere your mind wants it to, and it is designed to destroy rogue planets, murder annoying people, and put dying aliens out of their misery.

Source: I've used it.

~Czardas, Supreme Ruler of the Universe
MFUSR
18-05-2005, 13:45
Lasers are cool and everything, but the best sci-fi weapon is a chainsword from Warhammer 40,000.
Franziskonia
18-05-2005, 13:52
The Bolter and Chainsword. :)
Whispering Legs
18-05-2005, 14:05
Not a space weapon, but one book I read had people being assassinated by a rather unusual method.

They were briefly exposed to a temporarily created singularity - long enough to rotate their body out of three dimensions into two.

Since people have a digestive tract, when compressed into two dimensions, they come apart into at least two pieces.

Then they turned off the singularity. The forces involved in the dimensional compression and rotation were released, causing a brief explosion of inside-out human all over the room.

The resulting steaming mess didn't resemble much more than "human through a wood chipper"
Kellarly
18-05-2005, 14:13
The resulting steaming mess didn't resemble much more than "human through a wood chipper"

Or like in Fargo, just use a damn chipper.
Grave_n_idle
18-05-2005, 15:14
Well, how unusual... none of my favourites have been mentioned, I don't think... although there were a few near-misses:

1) Monofilament wire: As used in Ringworld... not conventionally a weapon, perhaps, but capable of doing 'Space' damage when deployed passively.

2) Sand: As used in Harry Harrisson's (of all people!!!) "To The Stars" Trilogy. Another good 'passive' weapon... just drop a very fine material in large amounts in front of vessels moving at space-attainable velocities...

3) The Space Eater: From the book of the same name: A fraction of a singularity, released as a weapon... able to devour an entire planet in pretty short order...

But, my favourite sci-fi weapons are drastically underused... almost untouched (except for occasional non-weapon references in Start Trek) since E.E.Doc Smith's Grey Lensman series:

Tractor Weapons - conventionally these are just tractor and pressor weapons, which are next to useless against inertialess vessels... but I like the idea of the same technology applied a little more creatively... tractor/pressor fields operating in tandem to crush or tear a ship, for example...
Kaledan
18-05-2005, 15:27
"The power of this Battle Station is insignificant compared to the power of the Force."---Darth Vader.
Hata-alla
18-05-2005, 15:28
Choices, choices. The end of one of Arthur C Clarke's books. A MASSIVE railgun(one of the first described I think) that shoots out a solid beam of metal some ten metres thick from the centre of the moon.

Some Star Trek Episode: A beam that erases objects from time. If a ship is erased, everything it ever done is erased too, and so forth.

Vogon Construction fleet(1980's version)!

Any gun in this (http://www.flashplayer.com/animation/ciunregulated.html) movie.
Whispering Legs
18-05-2005, 15:30
I did *love* the Tantalus Device from one of the old Star Trek episodes.

You watch people remotely, and just select them to be deleted.
Czardas
18-05-2005, 15:43
Oh, and I might add, I liked the Weapon Too Dreadful To Use from Isaac Asimov's story "The Weapon Too Dreadful To Use".

~Czardas, Supreme Ruler of the Universe
Esrevistan
18-05-2005, 18:43
A Tachion (sp?) Gun would be cool. Since they travel backwards in time, you could destroy stuff in the past.
Letila
18-05-2005, 19:44
I still think Arael's psychological beam is one of the coolest space weapons.
Perkeleenmaa
18-05-2005, 20:30
A space battle wouldn't be about blowing stuff up, because you need an atmosphere to proper pressure waves. It would be about cutting the ships to pieces. The Shadows in Babylon had ray weapons that actually behaved like laser rays, even if their glow was exaggerated. (A laser ray would be visible only in a cloud, and in B5, they didn't fight any space battles in nebulae.)
Syniks
18-05-2005, 21:10
<snip>But, my favourite sci-fi weapons are drastically underused... almost untouched (except for occasional non-weapon references in Start Trek) since E.E.Doc Smith's Grey Lensman series:

Tractor Weapons - conventionally these are just tractor and pressor weapons, which are next to useless against inertialess vessels... but I like the idea of the same technology applied a little more creatively... tractor/pressor fields operating in tandem to crush or tear a ship, for example...
You obviously haven't played much Star Fleet Battles (ADB "board" game written by and for aerospace engineers)

OTOH, I seem to recall that the Klingon word "disruptor" is defined as "the shake-it-until-it-falls-apart-tool" which prettymuch sounds like a pressor-tractor setup to me.

Sounds kind of like this almost-RL system (http://www.metalstorm.com/04_video_live_firings.html) MetalStorm was a device for firing thousands of rounds in a very short period of time. It basically consisted of a gun barrel filled with bullets. Each of the bullets was fired, in turn, by an electrical charge. The highest rate of fire available was something over a million rounds per minute.
MetalStorm anti-lander systems were a 105mm, twelve-barrel device mounted on an Abrams tank chassis. Each of the barrels was loaded with one hundred rounds. The rounds were the same type as had originally been carried by the Abrams as an anti-tank round, but with the MetalStorm system all twelve hundred rounds could be fired in under twenty seconds. Firing all the rounds in one ripple fire was extremely unpleasant for the crew; it had been described as being put in a barrel and shaken by a giant.
<snip> But since the MetalStorm system replaced not just the ammunition in firing, but the barrel as well, there was no reason that the track was locked in to using 105mm. And a similar pack, even larger, was designed and fielded in 40mm. The design used the basic 40mm grenade, the same projectile as was found in the venerable Mk-19 Mod 4. It fired a "bullet"-shaped projectile with a three-thousand-meter range that was just under a pound and a half of wrapped explosives and wire. On contact the projectile exploded, sending out a hail of notched wire that killed or injured anything in a five-meter radius.
Each of the MetalStorm "40 Packs" contained twenty thousand projectiles.
Instead of twelve barrels there were one hundred, ten across and ten down in a square block of metal that actually weighed more than the "heavy" pack. And instead of one hundred rounds packed into each barrel, there were two hundred. THESE EXIST! :eek: Can we say "area denial"? I thought we could. :D

My favorite SF gun is the Metal-storm modified "BunBun" the SheVa gun from John Ringo's Hell's Faire.

Description: Hell's Faire, Chapter 3,SheVas were the sort of bastard weapon that only occur in the midst of really terrible wars. Early on in the battles against the Posleen one of humanity's greatest weaknesses was the inability to destroy the Posleen ships when they were used for close support of the alien infantry. The event was fortunately rare—the Posleen were not good at combined arms—but when it occurred it was devastating. Many weapons systems were created to try to destroy the Posleen landers, but with the exception of the Galactic-crafted heavy weapons, which were in short supply, only one system had proven effective. And it was monstrous in every meaning of the word.
During the fighting around Fredericksburg the battleship North Carolina had managed to tag a Posleen lander with its sixteen-inch guns and when nine sixteen-inch rounds hit, the alien ship more or less disappeared. So, obviously, sixteen-inch rounds would work. But there were many problems associated with that simple fact. The first was that battleship turrets were not designed for antiaircraft work; the shot had been luck as much as skill and improvisation. The second was that the engagement envelope, how high and far the guns would reach, was very small. The third was that battleships had a very hard time getting to, say, Knoxville, Tennessee.
The answer was to create a new class of guns, superficially similar to the battleship guns. They were sixteen inches in diameter but at that point the resemblance stopped. Like modern tank guns, they were smoothbore and very high velocity. The guns used an electroplasma propellant, extended barrels and secondary firing chambers to accelerate a depleted uranium dart as thick as a treetrunk to twenty-five-hundred meters per second. Firing a single penetrator round, the weapon designed to destroy a Posleen lander, was the recoil equivalent of firing six standard battleship cannons.
Because of the enormous energies involved, a tremendous recoil system had to be designed including shock absorbers the size of small submarines. While it was, relatively, easy to install in the few fixed fortifications that received the guns, the real necessity was for a mobile gun platform.
Most development groups despaired when faced with the challenge, but the Shenandoah Valley Industrial Planning Commission simply accepted that the platform had to be larger than anyone was willing to admit. Thus was born the SheVa gun.
SheVas were four-hundred feet long and three hundred wide, with huge tracks surmounted by a "turret" that looked like a metal factory building. At the rear, concealed in the turret, was a heavily armored magazine for its eight main gun rounds, each of which looked like a cross between a rifle cartridge and an ICBM. The cantilevered gun, massive against any other backdrop, stuck out of the turret like a giant telescope and was so small in comparison it looked like an accidental add-on.
The gun consisted of three main portions, the gun itself and its supporting structures, the monstrous "weather shield" turret that created the gun room, and the drive system.
The gun was a two-hundred-foot-long, multi-chambered "Bull" gun. The basic propellant was an electro-plasma system that used an electrical charge to excite material and provide propulsion far beyond that available with any normal chemical propellant. However, due to power drop-off over distance, the barrel had secondary firing chambers down its side that added their own propulsion to the gigantic projectile. The combination permitted penetrator rounds, discarding sabot rounds with an outer disposable-plastic "sabot" and an inner uranium penetrator, to reach a velocity of nearly twenty-five-hundred meters per second, an unheard of speed prior to the SheVa gun.
It was mounted on a pivoting turret and elevation system that permitted it to fire from just below zero degrees to just beyond "straight up." It was, after all, designed as an anti-"aircraft" gun.
Instead of the normal "bag and round" system of most artillery, where the actual "bullet" was first loaded and then bags of powder rammed in behind, the gun used enormous cartridges that looked like nothing so much as a cross between a rifle cartridge and an ICBM; eight of the rounds were stored in a heavily reinforced magazine at the rear of the turret. Damage to the turret was to be avoided: depending upon whether the system was loaded for "penetrator" or "area of effect" there would be from eighty kilotons to eight hundred kilotons of explosive riding around in a SheVa. For that reason, among others, regular units tried to give them a wide berth.
To protect all of this machinery, some of which was not particularly weatherproof, the gun was encased in a gigantic "turret," actually a simple weather shield, that was a major engineering feat in itself. The shield was a hundred-foot-wide cube that mounted to the turret ring at the base of the gun so that it rotated at the same time as the weapon. The exterior of the shield was six-inch steel plate, not for any armoring reasons but simply because any lesser material buckled whenever the gun fired. The interior, on the other hand, was mostly empty, a vast space of soaring girders and curved braces that held the shield in place.
At the center top of the exterior of the shield was a crane, much better supported than the rest of the structure, that served to move around the humongous equipment necessary for even the simplest repairs to the gun.
To drive all of this structure required more than a little power. That was supplied by four Johannes/Cummings pebble-bed reactors. The core of the reactors were the "pebbles" themselves, tiny "onions" with layers of graphite and silicon wrapped around a fleck of uranium at the center. Due to the layering the uranium itself could never reach "melting temperature" and, therefore, the reactors were immune to run-away reactions. Furthermore, the helium coolant system prevented any radiation leakage; helium was unable to transmit radiation and thus even in a full coolant loss situation the reactor wasn't going to do anything but sit there.
Admittedly there were . . . issues with the reactors. Despite careful use of Galactic heat regeneration techniques, the drive room was hot as the hinges of hell. And if the reactor took a direct hit, as had happened from time to time, the tiny "pebbles" became one heck of a radioactive nuisance. But the power that the reactors provided more than made up for those little shortcomings. And reactor breaches were what clean-up crews lived for.
The drive system for the tank was just as revolutionary, using induction motors on all the drive wheels to provide direct power. Thus the SheVa could lose one or more drive wheels and still continue moving.

IIRC in the book they mount 6 (at least 4 anyway) MetalStorm packs on BunBun.

There are four books to the story (of the invasion of earth in the immediate future). The weapons systems are awesome and only a few come from non-available "alien" tech. The first two books are available FREE HERE (http://www.webscription.net/free/default.asp?filter=John+Ringo)
Syniks
18-05-2005, 21:25
Another favorite is the hyperfullerene/antimatter area denial terrain-hugging pancake nuke/cluster bomb with a 35x15 mile 2MT thermal-pulse footprint.

High yeild, extremely short half-life (background rad in a couple of days). Nice for swarms of invaders. :D
Riverlund
18-05-2005, 22:19
It's about space weapons (like for spaceships, etc), not personal weapons.

Oh! Gotcha. In that case, sign me up for either a particle beam or a plasma cannon.
Botswombata
18-05-2005, 22:25
The P-51 space modulator of course.
Shadowstorm Imperium
18-05-2005, 22:26
A good point about explosives not working well in space due as no air to carry shockwaves. A fragmentation bomb or some futuristic equivalent would still be useful though.
Super-power
18-05-2005, 22:28
Six pages and only two other people besides my mention Mobile Suits/Mobile Armor?
Shadowstorm Imperium
18-05-2005, 22:41
Six pages and only two other people besides my mention Mobile Suits/Mobile Armor?

Perhaps I ought to mention that suits and armour arent types of weapon.
Syniks
18-05-2005, 22:42
Six pages and only two other people besides my mention Mobile Suits/Mobile Armor?Well, they are interesting in a "they would be unbelievably easy to kill" way...

I ran a scenerio at a Con once where, using "by the book" stats, put up a task force of Mechs (BattleTech rules) against a platoon of M1A Abrams Tanks (RL Stats, Combat Command percentages, BattleTech EW rules) "drilling" at the NTC.

The Walking Armed Buildings with Thermal Hot Spots (heat sinks) were wiped out IIRC within 45 minutes (game time). Nothing like HEAT and Penetrator rounds through a battle-suit heat sink to ruin its day. (I think somebody got lucky with a laser before the tanks started laying smoke - there was only one KIA and 3 damaged, but combat-functional tanks.

Point is, the way those things are described, killing them seems awfully easy.

(ACS suits from Ringo's polseen series though.... they will take a nuke in the face with only limited damage... but we're not talking personal-sized suits, are we?)
Letila
18-05-2005, 22:45
Six pages and only two other people besides my mention Mobile Suits/Mobile Armor?

It's not like anyone else liked the Lance of Longinus, either.
Dark Regonia
18-05-2005, 22:57
Other Weapon- The BFG BIG FUCKIN GUN.. from doom 3
Zefielia
18-05-2005, 23:06
Colony drops.

Or, any Ace Combat superweapon.
New Sans
18-05-2005, 23:24
Suncrusher's torpedos, destroying galaxies is always quite fun.
Mazalandia
19-05-2005, 17:12
The Bolter and Chainsword. :)

Nah Gauss Rifles/Blasters
Zefielia
20-05-2005, 21:52
Well, they are interesting in a "they would be unbelievably easy to kill" way...

I ran a scenerio at a Con once where, using "by the book" stats, put up a task force of Mechs (BattleTech rules) against a platoon of M1A Abrams Tanks (RL Stats, Combat Command percentages, BattleTech EW rules) "drilling" at the NTC.

The Walking Armed Buildings with Thermal Hot Spots (heat sinks) were wiped out IIRC within 45 minutes (game time). Nothing like HEAT and Penetrator rounds through a battle-suit heat sink to ruin its day. (I think somebody got lucky with a laser before the tanks started laying smoke - there was only one KIA and 3 damaged, but combat-functional tanks.

Point is, the way those things are described, killing them seems awfully easy.

(ACS suits from Ringo's polseen series though.... they will take a nuke in the face with only limited damage... but we're not talking personal-sized suits, are we?)

Mobile Suits (from Gundam) are a lot different from Battletech stuff, for instance if you're looking at Gundam Wing the damn things are invincible until the plot dictates otherwise. Gundam SEED MS have the chance of making you go berserker on everyone's ass, and UC Gundam stuff is more realistic, and still powerful. For instance, Zakus could run rings around tanks, and the 150mm (give or take) machinegun isn't helpful to the slow things either.
DrunkenDove
20-05-2005, 22:37
Please people, it's the Imperiums ramming prows from 40k. Why shoot a ship when you can simply fly through it?
Eastern Coast America
20-05-2005, 22:40
A musket.
No, a laser gun
A laser sword. with guns on it....that fired lazer swords.
Karas
20-05-2005, 23:10
Mobile Suits (from Gundam) are a lot different from Battletech stuff, for instance if you're looking at Gundam Wing the damn things are invincible until the plot dictates otherwise. Gundam SEED MS have the chance of making you go berserker on everyone's ass, and UC Gundam stuff is more realistic, and still powerful. For instance, Zakus could run rings around tanks, and the 150mm (give or take) machinegun isn't helpful to the slow things either.


In reality mobile suits should be all but useless on the ground. Their weight alone should put a great deal of stress on the leg joins and motors. However, in space they are a different matter.
It is much easier for a mobile suit to take advantage of the three-dimensional movement available in outer space than it is for an aircraft-based design to do the same. Their superior agility makes them perfect for close range space battles.
New Fubaria
21-05-2005, 00:11
http://www.serenadawn.com/Alien-M41ARifle.JPG
Cannot think of a name
21-05-2005, 00:21
I'm in a bit of a hurry so I don't have time to scan for it, but that wave cannon from Starblazers that fired out of the Yamato. Go ahead, raise shields-suckas
Wondsing Island
21-05-2005, 00:25
Death Star
Xessmithia
21-05-2005, 00:26
I gotta go with the Death Star's Superlaser. You gotta love that thing.
Shadowstorm Imperium
21-05-2005, 00:47
A musket.
No, a laser gun
A laser sword. with guns on it....that fired lazer swords.

Yay for "How to kill a mockingbird"!
Vetalia
21-05-2005, 00:51
My favorite is the Executor from ROTJ. Too bad the damn Rebels crashed it in to the Death Star.

If I were the Emperor, I would have put every single spare stormtrooper, imperial solider, AT-AT, AT-ST, and speeder bike in the army in a literal wall of firepower that the Ewoks would have to fight through to even reach the generator, which would be defended with hundreds of defensive weapons systems, and have no back door !
Ploor
21-05-2005, 02:16
4. Phil Foglio/Nick Pollotta's STOP THAT gun from Illegal Aliens: When fired, it makes the target, well, "stop that." Priceless.

I love that book

in the mobile suit catigory, I like the ORIGINAL mobile infantry powered armour from the book "Starship Troopers", not the crappy movie

The 5 inch tall spaceship from "Men in Black 2" that destroyed planets is a much better weapon than the death star, it does not advertise its presence 3 systems away when it moves in
Mondoth
21-05-2005, 06:58
Top ten space based weapons of all time!!!

10. Cereberus A 'planet' designed for the sole purpose of keeping people out, it features a smll number of active defense features until you get close, then it busts out in stle with nano weapons, metal tentacles, self repairing, maze like pathways, general mayhem and destructiona dn at the center, a device to bring on the wrath of the inhibitors (Source: Revelation Space by; alastair reynolds, you'll here this one alot)
9. the Ancient weapon that finally destroyed the replicators, fnd out what your enemies resonate at the quantum level and you can wipe them all out at once. (Source: Stargate SG-1 season 9)

8. 'The Weapon' A converted relativistic star ship the weapon is now a massive battering ram, the hull is equipped with the latest i molecular constructio and deconstructipn equipment, simply rev the engine and run into somehing, even a planet, bam its turned into raw matterial for the next attack, designed to breach the defenses of Cereberus and thus higher on the list (Source: Revelation Space by; Alastair Reynolds)
7. The Deathstar (Obviously)
6. The warchives A combination nanofactory and database of every weapon ever the warchives allows design elements to be mixed and matched t create the perfect weapon for any situation (Source: Revelation Space by; Alastair Rynolds)
5. the 'arsenal' about twelve "hell class" weapons of different design and function, nobody knows how they work, the just destroy anything hostile when activated (Revelation space and the other books in the 'Inhibitor Wars' series)
4. sun crusher, the power to destroy stars in massive supernovas!!! (Star Wars Jedi Academy series)
3. The replicators machines witht he sole purpose of making more of themselves, all they do is 'eat' using acid and replicate (Source: Stargate SG-1)
2. The Inhibitors, nanobots witht he sole purpose of extinguishing intelligent life in the galaxy, they employ various methods such as 'singing' a star which results in a light years long and wide directable flame thrower made of solar mass, turning jovian planets into massive projectiles, and just plain eating stuff. (Revelation Space)
1. In My Opinion the all time greatest space based weapo would have to be the black box!!!! using technology not quite understood the black box is able to change local physical properties like inertia, existence, gravity and some quantum properties as well, it can be used to make a ship tachyonic or to erase portions of timeline and rewrite them, a person killed like this does not exist back to the last point they could reasonably of died at, it literally rewrites history to kill people off. (another book in the inhibitor wars series, Redemption Ark)

Honorable Mentions: Terapedoes from Schlockmercenary.com, semi sentient missiles that use wormholes to transport them selves almost anywhere. Also from schlockmercenary.com; Gravy Guns, manipulate gravity to do nasty things to people and ships. From starwars: The Executor class super star destroyer second refit, with better shields than the original and more badassery in general. From Stargate: Anubis's mother ship, with some crazy ancient weapon that destros stuff very well. From Stargate Atlantis the wraith in general, seriously they suck out peoples life force, how awesome.
BlutKreig
21-05-2005, 07:11
Damn, I was beaten to Lexx.
Calpe
21-05-2005, 08:21
The Antimatter warhead....antimatter sounds cool to play with :rolleyes:
Aligned Planets
21-05-2005, 15:15
Quantum torpedoes