# I am Skeptical Over Newsweek Backtrack on Koran.Gate
OceanDrive
17-05-2005, 23:41
and so are Muslims around the World (BTW I am not Muslim)
The Noble Men
17-05-2005, 23:45
I am Skeptical Over Newsweek Backtrack on Koran.Gate
and so are Muslims around the World (BTW I am not Muslim)
Dunno what you're talking about. Sorry. Please explain what Koran.Gate is.
OceanDrive
17-05-2005, 23:47
Dunno what you're talking about. Sorry. Please explain what Koran.Gate is.stay tuned...you shall understand...
Celtlund
17-05-2005, 23:47
and so are Muslims around the World (BTW I am not Muslim)
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=419410
This has links to what happened.
OceanDrive
17-05-2005, 23:56
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=419410
This has links to what happened.yeah...i got some links too...
Alien Born
18-05-2005, 00:05
1. Newsweek backtraked so it never happened
2. I am skeptical too...maybe there was Pressure on Newsweek
3. all the media is pinko commie liberal and they hate Bush.
4. the US gov always respected the human rigts of the gitmo POW
No choice to allow that Newsweek did the right thing of their own accord, due to doubts arising.
I do not support the US Gov, The media is not pinko, that Newsweek backtracked does not mean that it did not happen, but they were not necessarily pressured to retract by anyone.
It can be, and I believe it is, that Newsweek lost confidence in their source. Any conscientous media outlet would retrct an affirmation that came solely from one source that has lost credibility.
Well you just go ahead and be skeptical, yep, go right ahead mister, right ahead.
OceanDrive
18-05-2005, 01:35
I do not support the US Gov, The media is not pinko, that Newsweek backtracked does not mean that it did not happen, but they were not necessarily pressured to retract by anyone.
i should have added an option for that...
LazyHippies
18-05-2005, 02:22
Newsweek retracted its story. Now, you have to realise that its story said that an internal military investigation had uncovered Qur'an abuse at Guantanamo Bay. According to what we now know, internal investigations made public to date have not uncovered such abuse. This does not change the fact that we know gitmo detainees began a hunger strike many months ago due to what they deemed an assault on their religion. It also does not change the fact that prisoners released from the gitmo prison corroborate this story and have been telling it for months. It also does not change the fact that a high ranking government official continues to claim he did read this accusation on some official US government document, just not the one he thought he had read it in. It also does not change the fact that a pentagon official who read the report prior to it being published did not object to the inaccuracy of what was said in it. So, did these events really happen? probably. Were they uncovered in the military investigation that Newsweek reported it was uncovered on? no.
I dont think they were pressured by the government, I think it simply became obvious that they were wrong about the report and its time to withdraw the story. Had the story been about allegations that this has happened, then it would not have been withdrawn. But the report was about a military investigation uncovering this, and they no longer have reliable sources willingto stand by that particular claim.
Shinra Megacorporation
18-05-2005, 02:41
I find myself skeptical of all media sources for the following reason:
some years ago a widely publicized story came out mostly regarding my uncle. I don't want to tell you more than that, but i could say that some of you might recognize his name or see a documentary about him.
Anyways- a newspaper wanted to do a story about his home life. It quoted several facts about his wife and children-- every one of which was wrong. The number of children, all of their names and ages was absolutely false.
So, naturally my aunt called the newspaper. they gave the excuse that with their deadlines they did not have enough time to double check their facts. so they made up the little details for human interest. They did this with a sort of "what difference does it make?" attitude.
i think that newsweek did not realize how this information might effect mulsims. reading it from a western point of view, i do not think i would riot if anyone flushed a bible- It's more of a human interest point in the story and it sounds like the source they were citing never said what they did.
I love reporters. so zealous.
LazyHippies
18-05-2005, 02:46
I find myself skeptical of all media sources for the following reason:
some years ago a widely publicized story came out mostly regarding my uncle. I don't want to tell you more than that, but i could say that some of you might recognize his name or see a documentary about him.
Anyways- a newspaper wanted to do a story about his home life. It quoted several facts about his wife and children-- every one of which was wrong. The number of children, all of their names and ages was absolutely false.
So, naturally my aunt called the newspaper. they gave the excuse that with their deadlines they did not have enough time to double check their facts. so they made up the little details for human interest. They did this with a sort of "what difference does it make?" attitude.
i think that newsweek did not realize how this information might effect mulsims. reading it from a western point of view, i do not think i would riot if anyone flushed a bible- It's more of a human interest point in the story and it sounds like the source they were citing never said what they did.
I love reporters. so zealous.
There is a big difference between a daily newspaper and Newsweek. The source continues to say that he read it, he was just mistaken about which document it was in. He has never denied saying what he did.
Tremalkier
18-05-2005, 02:49
I think its very simple. Newsweek found a story they thought would get a lot of attention (i.e. money for Newsweek), so they printed it without really back checking it too far. Later, when they did back check it, they found that either a source of theirs was unreliable, or something along those lines, and were forced to retract their story (as any dependable news agency would). Furthermore, I think its obvious Newsweek pulled a normal business move in the news business (think of the profit, not of the consequences) and is getting burned for it.