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I'm sad. Very sad. The only show I watch has been cancelled.
What's in the future of the Star Trek franchise?

The finale was only so-so though. What happened to the cool alternate-universe-with-new-theme-song storyline!? ...and more importantly, what will happen to my Saturday morning amusment?


Space: the final frontier. These are the voyages of the starship Enterprise; her mission to explore strange new worlds, seek out new life and new civillization and to go boldly where no man has gone before.

DO NOT parody my thread title.

The new spin off is a load of shit

DO NOT parody my thread title.hmmmm, too late. sorry.

DO NOT parody my thread title.

Oh com'on Swimmingpool, chuckle chuckle. tee hee? ;)

YAY!!!! Star Treks OVER!!!

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why did they stop making it anyway, it's not like there is a lack of fans for it....I don't think.

I'm sad. Very sad. The only show I watch has been cancelled.
What's in the future of the Star Trek franchise?

The finale was only so-so though. What happened to the cool alternate-universe-with-new-theme-song storyline!? ...and more importantly, what will happen to my Saturday morning amusment?
Stargate and Battlestar Galactica have distracted those who would otherwise care to an extent that the impact of the loss is significantly lower.

Star Trek needs to give itself a rest for about a decade. They kept pumping out franchise after franchise until well after they ran out of good ideas.

The last episode was an abomination, in fact the entire show was an abnomination from the start and shouldn't have ever been produced. They had SOOOO many oppertunities and ideas floating around that it was near impossible to get wrong, but guess what? They DID! As a dedicated Trekkie I would like to say that this show was not Star Trek and it never will be. It is just another lame generic sci-fi show claiming to be Star Trek.

Stargate and Battlestar Galactica have distracted those who would otherwise care to an extent that the impact of the loss is significantly lower.I've heard of these, but have never seen them. Are they parodies of some sort?
Star Trek needs to give itself a rest for about a decade. They kept pumping out franchise after franchise until well after they ran out of good ideas. You're probably right. After all, it was a good 17 years (I think) between TOS and TNG. But Enterprise had its great moments, and I wish it hadn't been cancelled.

paramount needed to know that they couldnt toss together any piece of crap and have the fans watch it.

enterprise had good potential, good cast, good characters, but they had no clue what to do with it. maybe next time they will do a better job.

The last episode was an abomination, in fact the entire show was an abnomination from the start and shouldn't have ever been produced. They had SOOOO many oppertunities and ideas floating around that it was near impossible to get wrong, but guess what? They DID! As a dedicated Trekkie I would like to say that this show was not Star Trek and it never will be. It is just another lame generic sci-fi show claiming to be Star Trek.Awwww, come on. They had several interesting plots and charachters. It was just the pathetic filler episodes, mushy dialogues, lack of wit, and blatant preachiness that killed me. But hey, none of those things are new to us, are they?
It is a pity about the missed opportunities though. I mean, time travel, parrallel universes? HOW could it go so wrong?

Good riddance. Man did that show suck... and I even liked Voyager.

TNG rules!

Awwww, come on. They had several interesting plots and charachters. It was just the pathetic filler episodes, mushy dialogues, lack of wit, and blatant preachiness that killed me. But hey, none of those things are new to us, are they?
It is a pity about the missed opportunities though. I mean, time travel, parrallel universes? HOW could it go so wrong?

One of the major aspects that bothered me was the lack of continuity. I didn't CARE about all this temporal war crap. I wanted to see The Romulan War. Now THAT would have been good tv. They could have done that and pumped up the ratings, but noooo, they had to hire crappy ass writers.

I've heard of these, but have never seen them. Are they parodies of some sort?

No, they're just other, better, sci-fi shows.

No, they're just other, better, sci-fi shows.

Better shows than Enterprise and Voyager? Yes.

Better shows than the previous Star Treks'? No, but that's just my opinion.

I'm sad. Very sad. The only show I watch has been cancelled.
What's in the future of the Star Trek franchise?

The finale was only so-so though. What happened to the cool alternate-universe-with-new-theme-song storyline!? ...and more importantly, what will happen to my Saturday morning amusment?

I know, its sad. I'm a treckie, too, but we have to let go...

Enterprise was crap and besmirched the good name of Star Trek :mad:

sure it had its moments and wasn't all that bad for a sci-fi show, but it wasn't Star Trek damnit!

Better shows than Enterprise and Voyager? Yes.

Better shows than the previous Star Treks'? No, but that's just my opinion.
I happen to think they're better than the old ones too, but that's a different discussion.

Enterprise was crap and besmirched the good name of Star Trek :mad:

sure it had its moments and wasn't all that bad for a sci-fi show, but it wasn't Star Trek damnit!
I didn't mind it exactly, but I did miss the normal Star Trek idea.

One of the major aspects that bothered me was the lack of continuity. I didn't CARE about all this temporal war crap. I wanted to see The Romulan War. Now THAT would have been good tv. They could have done that and pumped up the ratings, but noooo, they had to hire crappy ass writers. The Romulan Wars would have been very cool yeah. But as for the second point, the producers and writers from TNG are still around, and in fact wrote this series finale....so meh.

I know, its sad. I'm a treckie, too, but we have to let go...*tear*

can someone explain to me why people keep saying that Enterprise just wasn't Star Trek ?

I happen to think they're better than the old ones too, but that's a different discussion.
I agree with the person before you. Enterprise and Voyager (and even some of the later Deep Space Nine) Weren't as good as the earlier seasons.

can someone explain to me why people keep saying that Enterprise just wasn't Star Trek ?
It was Star Trek, jsut a different style Star Trek. Not the same style they started with. It wasn't that I didn't like it, it was a good show, but it was just different and I guess I'm a bit too old to change my Trekie-ness... They've been around about as long as I can rememeber... (Okay, either my whole life or just short of it)

There were a few decent episodes. The best part of Enterprise was the last minute of the show's existance. What they did with Picard, Kirk and Archer.

As for why people say it's not Trek... Because it's not. They originally kept Star Trek out of the title so it wouldn't "drive people away." Then they completely butchered the established Star Trek timeline. The producers turned their back on the fans. They wanted new fans, not the hard core loyalists.

Enterprise would have made Gene roll over in his grave. If he had one.

Star Trek needs to give itself a rest for about a decade. They kept pumping out franchise after franchise until well after they ran out of good ideas.

What they need to do is kick Berman and Braga in the sack and show them the door. They have sucked the life out of the franchise.

The best part of Enterprise was the last minute of the show's existance. What they did with Picard, Kirk and Archer.That was really damned awesome. I've got it on tape.

That was really damned awesome. I've got it on tape.

I missed the last episode. You should send me a copy. :D

I never really got into Enterprise, and I've only seen a handful of episodes, including the finale.

There just hasn't been a sci-fi show that could capture my attention and imagination like Farscape. The new BG is boring and SG-1 is mediocre drivel.

I'm sad. Very sad. The only show I watch has been cancelled.
What's in the future of the Star Trek franchise?

The finale was only so-so though. What happened to the cool alternate-universe-with-new-theme-song storyline!? ...and more importantly, what will happen to my Saturday morning amusment?

Personally, I hated Enterprise. I was never fond of the original, liked Next Gen, loved Voyager, and was alright with DS9. Enterpise just never impressed me. I could never get into it. Frankly, I'm glad it's gone and they're taking a break. Perhaps they'll come out with something absolutely spectacular, in the time they have.

Oh com'on Swimmingpool, chuckle chuckle. tee hee? ;)
Maybe if my original thread had been light-hearted it would have been acceptable.

On topic: Enterprise sucked and should never have been made. Kejott is right: it was just a cheap knock-off pretending to be Star Trek. They even had a pop song as the theme music! They should have had an orchestral score like the other serieses.

Maybe if my original thread had been light-hearted it would have been acceptable.

On topic: Enterprise sucked and should never have been made. Kejott is right: it was just a cheap knock-off pretending to be Star Trek. They even had a pop song as the theme music! They should have had an orchestral score like the other serieses.

But. . .It's beeen a looong road, gettin from there to here. . . It's beeeen a long road. . .but my time is finally . . .uh something something.

But I've got faith to believe. . .something something, I've got faith in the heart!!!

I missed the last episode. You should send me a copy. :DI could. The Canadian Postal Service is pretty bad, though.

Thanks. though I'd like to reciprocate that you're cute too, I don't believe that's quite the right word. You'll have to make do with a super-special "awesome guy". ok?

I could. The Canadian Postal Service is pretty bad, though.

Thanks. though I'd like to reciprocate that you're cute too, I don't believe that's quite the right word. You'll have to make do with a super-special "awesome guy". ok?

Hmm, perhaps. Maybe I'll have to surrender my address to you.

And as for the second point, I usually prefer "breathtaking", but I can live with "awesome guy".

Maybe if my original thread had been light-hearted it would have been acceptable.I'm sorry. I regret it now, but I didn't think at the time.
On topic: Enterprise sucked and should never have been made. Kejott is right: it was just a cheap knock-off pretending to be Star Trek. They even had a pop song as the theme music! They should have had an orchestral score like the other serieses.There's no reason to be so mean, now. And I'd like to register my surprise that all you hard-nose trekkies are so closed to any new look/feel/sound. Crickey!!!
The old themes were classic, but this one was okay too in my opinion.

I didn't know they had finished the series, but I'm not surprised because it wasn't very good. The problem with prequels is that it has to fit in with the future and it seemed to me that they were so concerned with the story arc that they didn't even do one single stand alone episode. All of the other series relied heavily upon the stand alone episodes.

Stargate and Battlestar Galactica have distracted those who would otherwise care to an extent that the impact of the loss is significantly lower.

That doesn't make sense. It would have been a great lead in. Star Trek at 8:00, switch over to Sci-Fi channel for SG1 at 9:00 then Galactica at 10:00. That would be 3 solid hours of sci-fi fun for me if I watched SG, but it was nice anyway. Star Trek, come here and listen to the last hour of Majority Report, then Galactica.

And I was annoyed at the alternate universe one too. It hardly seemed to wrap up anything at all. What a tease. :mad:

I didn't know they had finished the series, but I'm not surprised because it wasn't very good. The problem with prequels is that it has to fit in with the future and it seemed to me that they were so concerned with the story arc that they didn't even do one single stand alone episode. All of the other series relied heavily upon the stand alone episodes.

Not really. DS9 had it's stand alone begining, but it quickly became a space opera centering on the lingering Dominion threat. Enterprise did the same thing, only it became an opera after the second season centering on the Zindi (sp) and then Federation building.

Personally I suspect that pro pacifist political themes are out of vogue right now.

Personally I suspect that pro pacifist political themes are out of vogue right now.


The only two episodes of Enterprise that I've seen are the two mirror universe ones. I could have watched the standard episodes, but had no interest in doing so, however seeing the old TOS idea of the fascist 'Federation' was just irresistible. Enjoyed them, but still feel no compunction to watch any of the other Enterprise episodes.

What they need to do is kick Berman and Braga in the sack and show them the door. They have sucked the life out of the franchise.Agreed.

Story continuity was sometimes violated in Voyager (a ship can't turn in warp? I'm pretty sure that's wrong), but not to the degree that was done with "Enterprise".

Seeing "Enterprise" end is bittersweet for me, kinda like watching an animal being put out it's misery.

--The Democratic States of Cogitation
"Think about it for a moment."

I'm not saying that a change wouldn't be a good thing, but weren't Berman and Braga responsible for TNG as well? They're veterans.

I'm not saying that a change wouldn't be a good thing, but weren't Berman and Braga responsible for TNG as well? They're veterans.
The difference was that Roddenberry was still around for that one and left very fresh ideas for DSN. By the time of Voyager and Enterprise those ideas weren't too fresh anymore, but the producers tried to make them fit anyway.

Enterprise wasn't that bad, probably a lot more people would have appreciated if it didn't have the Star Trek association. But it could have been a lot better too. That was a very interesting period of Federation history they picked, and totally wasted it.

Maybe if my original thread had been light-hearted it would have been acceptable.

On topic: Enterprise sucked and should never have been made. Kejott is right: it was just a cheap knock-off pretending to be Star Trek. They even had a pop song as the theme music! They should have had an orchestral score like the other serieses.

I thought it counted as country by modern standards. Not that that's better. I just took to taping the show and skiping the credits. The alternate opening credits for the alternate universe episode was pretty good though.

And the whole storyline was like they asked John Carpenter to do a Star Trek episode.

I never really liked Enterprise a great deal. I saw a few episodes and they were good, but I can't say I liked it that much.