NationStates Jolt Archive

But I guess that is so obvious that there is no need for me to say that!

You're liberal.

Who cares?

You're liberal.

You're Christian.

Nationstates is just a game/forum - I doubt it has any liberal/conservative bias - the posters on teh other hand; extreemist bastards from all walks of life.

You're Christian.

You're a big fat phony.

Yes! I'm Christian and I'm conservative! Thanks!

NationStates is confusing people by defining conservative positions as moderate and moderate positions as liberal. The consequences of issues your government acts upon are totally unrealistic and reflect liberal propoganda.

Who cares?

I second that!

Oh do me a favour?

You're a big fat phony.

PHONY! Hey everyone, this guy here is a phony!

[/familyguy]

Yes! I'm Christian and I'm conservative! Thanks!

NationStates is confusing people by defining conservative positions as moderate and moderate positions as liberal. The consequences of issues your government acts upon are totally unrealistic and reflect liberal propoganda.

Hey, man ... ya get what ya pay for.

You think this game has a liberal bias? Pfft ... you should see what the place would be like if I had a hand in creative control.

If NationStates is liberal, please explain Commando, Neo Cannen, Jesussaves, Ffc2...

~Czardas, Supreme Ruler of the Universe

Hey, man ... ya get what ya pay for.

You think this game has a liberal bias? Pfft ... you should see what the place would be like if I had a hand in creative control.

Why not two hands? You'd get double the creativity for double the price.

If NationStates is liberal, please explain Commando, Neo Cannen, Jesussaves, Ffc2...

~Czardas, Supreme Ruler of the Universe

A conservative minority. And Mr. Saves was a parody by a liberal.

Now for something totally irrelevant.

Potatofish. :gundge:

The consequences of issues your government acts upon are totally unrealistic and reflect liberal propoganda.

The consequences of the issues are skewed in all directions. The are exaggerated so that you can actually see a moderate week to week change.

My nation is a Capitalizt Paradise and I still have an income tax rate of 78%.

If NationStates is liberal, please explain Commando, Neo Cannen, Jesussaves, Ffc2...

~Czardas, Supreme Ruler of the Universe

Point of order: I've not seen a post by any one of those except Neo Cannen in months.

Why not two hands? You'd get double the creativity for double the price.
Here here!

Point of order: I've not seen a post by any one of those except Neo Cannen in months.

Whereas I haven't seen a post by any of those in minutes.

I find Nationstates to be pretty well balenced, if a little extreme.

Point of order: I've not seen a post by any one of those except Neo Cannen in months.

I think I saw commando around a few days ago, but he/she got banned again. Isn't he/she on commando5 or commando6 by now?

Let us have our little librel haven.

Bush got elected again.

liberal actions taken on issues in the game have pretty negative effects too my friend.

Nationstates is a side project of the corrupt liberal media around the world they have made this site for one sole purpose and that is turn weak minded teenagers liberal!

I find Nationstates to be pretty well balenced, if a little extreme.



I think I saw commando around a few days ago, but he/she got banned again. Isn't he/she on commando5 or commando6 by now?

It's mostly to the left, but the righties are VERY right, so I guess it sort of balances. ;)

Got me... I'm just calling it as I see it.

Nationstates is a side project of the corrupt liberal media around the world they have made this site for one sole purpose and that is turn weak minded teenagers liberal!

Next, they'll be doing herion

Yes! I'm Christian and I'm conservative! Thanks!

NationStates is confusing people by defining conservative positions as moderate and moderate positions as liberal. The consequences of issues your government acts upon are totally unrealistic and reflect liberal propoganda.
I refer thee to The FAQ (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/52356/page=faq)

Q: I don't agree with any of the options on this issue!

A: Dismiss it, then. This is the equivalent of ignoring an issue until people stop talking about it and there's not so much pressure to do something. If you were a real government, you'd do this all the time, of course, but in NationStates it's more interesting if you respond to issues by actually making decisions.

Q: Isn't this "simulation" biased towards your politics?

A: Very possibly. Not intentionally, though. And since there's no ultimate measure of success or failure in NationStates, any bias shouldn't affect much. For example, you don't win the game by having the strongest economy. It just means your nation has a strong economy.

Q: Why is my nation so weird?

A: Everything is exaggerated a little. Well, okay, a lot. Your decisions affect your nation very strongly, so your country might seem like a more extreme version of what you were aiming for. Unless you have radical politics. In which case you probably think nothing's wrong.

I find Nationstates to be pretty well balenced, if a little extreme.



I think I saw commando around a few days ago, but he/she got banned again. Isn't he/she on commando5 or commando6 by now?

7 by my reckoning.

Whereas I haven't seen a post by any of those in minutes.

Odd... I wonder how I missed them?

[violet]=Michael Moore

I think I saw commando around a few days ago, but he/she got banned again. Isn't he/she on commando5 or commando6 by now?

He's on Commando7. And that was his final incarnation, he's now DOS (I think) for violating his forumban twice, as well as trolling and stuff.

And Ffc2 is still active. He reposted his 'apocalypse' thread today.

[violet]=Michael Moore


What about him?

Beats me, ffc2 was here raising a stink about half an hour ago...commando7 showed up to insult everybody sporadically over the weekend, Neo-Cannen has been in, out and around, and Jesussaves...okay, maybe it's been a while since I saw Jesussaves, but isn't that just a joke-puppet of Drunk Commies?

Yes! I'm Christian and I'm conservative! Thanks!

NationStates is confusing people by defining conservative positions as moderate and moderate positions as liberal. The consequences of issues your government acts upon are totally unrealistic and reflect liberal propoganda.

They are unrealistic, yes... In all directions, adds some humor to the game, to see the drastic effects they have because of their extremity.

Liberal Propaganda? I think not.

Beats me, ffc2 was here raising a stink about half an hour ago...commando7 showed up to insult everybody sporadically over the weekend, Neo-Cannen has been in, out and around, and Jesussaves...okay, maybe it's been a while since I saw Jesussaves, but isn't that just a joke-puppet of Drunk Commies?

Ok, I stand corrected!
Dunno. I actually don't see a need for puppetry. ;)

PHONY! Hey everyone, this guy here is a phony!

[/familyguy]

:p We'll all move to england. Worst they got there is those erm.. drive by.. arguments.

I say Jeremy, is that Reginald B. Stiffworth, that upstart who has been touting the merits of a united federal europe?
Why yes, i do believe it is?
Oh lets get him

They drive up to next where reginald is standing, stop briefly

Oh Reginald!! I DISAGREE!

They scoot off at speed.

Anyway, yes nationstates is liberal but there are plenty of conservative nations out of there, i wont speculate on the balance, i would probably say the left have a majority but the right can be equally loud.

Oh.
My.
God.

NOT the "L" word!

**weeps piteously**

Oh.
My.
God.

NOT the "L" word!

**weeps piteously**

:p

aww well, it'll be commies next

Honestly, I don't get it. I've found Nationstates to be a hotbed of conservatism...and no joke, either. There have been times when, after participating in these threads, that I've come away from it either incredibly wound up, or incredibly ground down by the knee-jerk reactionary 'my-country-right-or-wrong' kinda conservatism that would be really funny coming out of Archie Bunker's mouth, but in the context of here and now seems remarkably unfunny and mildly frightening.

:p

aww well, it'll be commies next

Not on my watch.

*glares*

*sigh*

Only someone with severe bias would ever say that this forum is blindingly liberal or conservative. When you piss and moan about the game being one or the other, all you do is show that you're a radical liberal/conservative, and therefore it is acceptable to dismiss all of your opinions as party-line rhetoric. Congratulations. You've just marginalized yourself.

Not on my watch.

*glares*
commie!

ZOMG TEH NATIONSTATES IS TEH LIBERAL!!!!111shift+1

Also, this just in: Fox News is conservative, the sky is blue, I'm really an alien lifeform, pizza is God's own food of choice, and Michael Jackson is downright scary. Who cares? So it might be liberal. I'd be more worried about other things, though, like college faculty (of which studies agree that most of them are liberal). As is, I've read Jennifer Government and I found Barry's views to be very balanced. Thus, if you think THIS is liberal, I would hate to see what happens when you go to college.
The thing is, it's possible for conservatives and liberals to be friends, hang out, and talk to each other. It's true! I've seen it! AND I've done it! :eek:

Liberal: Taken from the 1893 version of the Webster's


friendly to great FREEdom in the constitution or administration of government; having tendency toward democratic or republican, as distinguished from monarchical or aristocratic, forms.

A "Liberal" is one who believes in a "liberal" (libertine) and free government. Representative form of government. A particular view of the people as "freemen" and "independent" in exercize of their own rights and lives.

On this I would state a majority of NS are "liberal" in their social governmental views, regardless of their particular economic viewpoints.

Conservatives, on the other hand; as in those who are totalitarian, aristocratic, and the like, are not a complete majority, they are certainly in the minority.

More appropriately this is dealing with things accross the governmental scale, between "Statism" (the idea of the state wielding complete authority and power) and anarchism (the idea of the state being the people themselves), and so does not deal with the unrealistic viewpoint of "liberal/conservative" deliniation as espoused by those in the US... Who have short-sightedness to deliniate the difference between socio-economics accross multiple dimensions.

People can have varying economic policies, which have no bearing on their "conservative/liberal" views. However, US "Conservatives", with their inability to see the difference, consider all "liberal" ideology as being "leftist" ideology based upon socialism, or communist ideals. (Which is a pity, the US was founded upon Classic Liberal Ideology, Conservatives of their time were called 'Torries' or 'Red Coats' and suported the King of England).

ZOMG TEH NATIONSTATES IS TEH LIBERAL!!!!111shift+1

Also, this just in: Fox News is conservative, the sky is blue, I'm really an alien lifeform, pizza is God's own food of choice, and Michael Jackson is downright scary. Who cares? So it might be liberal. I'd be more worried about other things, though, like college faculty (of which studies agree that most of them are liberal). As is, I've read Jennifer Government and I found Barry's views to be very balanced. Thus, if you think THIS is liberal, I would hate to see what happens when you go to college.
The thing is, it's possible for conservatives and liberals to be friends, hang out, and talk to each other. It's true! I've seen it! AND I've done it! :eek:

It's true!! We can be friends, one of my best female friends is a liberal democrat supporter, a scandinavian liberal paradise on the game in fact. My region has socialists, liberals, conservatives and all others and we get on fine :)

Plus i'm at the LSE, which is probably the most left wing university in britain so i have to deal with the lefties ;)

Your mother is a liberal.

Your mother is a liberal.

Schooled like Jerry Springer on Maury while simultaneously performing the ancient art of seppuku under the waning moonlight.

Next, they'll be doing herion

You must mean heron.

*Did you know?*

Quite a while ago, someone called out Max Barry as corporate scum or somesuch. It was actually more detailed, but you get the point.

But I guess that is so obvious that there is no need for me to say that!


I would just like to point out that while Iam a liberal...Nationstates is not. Nationstates is SATIRE, it lampoons all sides of the political spectrum. If you hadn't noticed. So my advice, quit being a conservative douche bag and read the god damn issues before you pass judgement. Then may'be if you did read them first, you would realize that ALL sides of the debate are exaggerated and comical, not just the right wingers.

Ass.