NationStates Jolt Archive

OK, so i'm liberal, and I believe highly in equality, love, peace, the whole shibang man. *Takes out his weed and smokes it from a professionally rolled doobie-HA! YEAH RIGHT!* Ok, so I'm not a hippie drug-smoker, but I AM very vocal in my fairness views. I believe in gay marriage, and I've said so on a thread or two here...however, this post isn't about gays...(Man I can't keep up with my own thoughts) This post is about transgender individuals. Males turned females, females turned males...what's your opinion? I'd like to hear any and all views on this...Well...actually...I'd LIKE to hear views that are well-supported and calm and clear (So...probably not a majority of the views I've heard by Christians...not that ALL Christians are like that, but a majority of the ones I'VE talked to are anyways) But anyways, I suppose I'll start: I believe that transgender people are people...just like you and I. Though their misfortune was being born to a gender that doesn't suit their personality, appearance, sexual preference, whatever...Just because they feel the need to change their physical apects, I don't think that gives anyone the right to be hostile towards them or cruel in any form. I know I myself have considered becoming female, but I'm still young and not all-knowing so...I still don't know for certain. So please, post away!

No one should form opinions of people based on their gender, so I have no opinion on this topic.

I'm fine with it. From seeing some of the posts made by transgendered individuals I get the impression it is nessasery in many cases for the individual's well being.

Though I am curious to know how a person knows they have gender identity disorder (that s the right term, right?)

Transgendered people are armchairs. They have legs, a back, a seat, and arms, like an armchair. I rest my case.

please format your posts more.

I can't (or won't?) read that big lump of text.

Here in Vegas, we get an interesting mix of "gold old boy" mentality, and "anything goes" entertainment (although probably wouldn't match places like Amsterdam or Shinjuku). So, some people look at transgendered people as "freaks", others might mistakenly assume that its part of their job.

As for me, if somebody is going to be happier as transgendered, they should do what they need to do to be balanced and happy. If thats hormones, surgery, or whatever else, I see nothing wrong with it. The one thing that you're supposed to own outright is your body. Depending on your familiy and friends, I'm sure it can be a tough journey for them.

please format your posts more.

I can't (or won't?) read that big lump of text.

Huh?

What big lump of text?

Wow liberals are such filthy scum...

Anyway, in response:

Trannies and shemales are sick people who need treatment. They are disgusting and unnatural and shouldn't be allowed to roam freely.

Huh?

What big lump of text?

the first post in this thread.

I believe many cases of gender reassignment are due to the fact the they were born with both male & female anatonomy & were gender selected as a newborn. I think I read somewhere that about 80% of the reassignments are due to this. I think as a culture we are too stuck on gender. we should just allow people to be what they are as long as they do not harm others.
I don't understand why this is such a liberal idea? it is a matter of commom courtsey to others.
I'm a lefty which makes me different then others. In modern society I am not viewed as a freak for this. I don't see why gender issues should have any different stigmas attached.

Wow liberals are such filthy scum...

Anyway, in response:

Trannies and shemales are sick people who need treatment. They are disgusting and unnatural and shouldn't be allowed to roam freely.
And YOU call liberals filthy scum :rolleyes:

Because a man who wants to have sex with men and thus wishes to become a woman is a homosexual...

Wow liberals are such filthy scum...

Anyway, in response:

Trannies and shemales are sick people who need treatment. They are disgusting and unnatural and shouldn't be allowed to roam freely.

*pets troll*

Don't worry little guy, we will find you a home soon.

Trannies and shemales are sick people who need treatment. They are disgusting and unnatural and shouldn't be allowed to roam freely.

To paraphrase Enlightened Humanity,

"please format your posts more.

I can't (or won't?) read that big lump of sh*t."

Flametard.

And YOU call liberals filthy scum :rolleyes:

Yes, you ARE filthy, pathetic, ignorant, blasphemous, cowardly, hypocritical, and selfish bastards!

To paraphrase Enlightened Humanity,

"please format your posts more.

I can't (or won't?) read that big lump of sh*t."

Flametard.

Maybe the whole world isn't just about homosexual rights and abortions and saving the whales and smoking weed...

the first post in this thread.

That's not a big lump of text, friend. Try reading it one sentence at a time if that helps...

Yes, you ARE filthy, pathetic, ignorant, blasphemous, cowardly, hypocritical, and selfish bastards!
Who said I am a liberal?

That's not a big lump of text, friend. Try reading it one sentence at a time if that helps...

Which would be a lot easier with line-breaks.

<<Yes, you ARE filthy, pathetic, ignorant, blasphemous, cowardly, hypocritical, and selfish bastards!>>

And you are a nihilist to shame Hitler.

Maybe the whole world isn't just about homosexual rights and abortions and saving the whales and smoking weed...

Well then, if the world isn't about making the world a better place, maybe you could enlighten us and tell us what the world is really about then, pally.

*pets troll*

Don't worry little guy, we will find you a home soon.

Nice try. I am not trolling, merely expressing my views which I am allowed to do in this country, there's nothing you can do against that, despite the fact that I know that you liberals would love nothing more than to change "freedom of speech" to "freedom of speech (for liberals only)". I will find a home for you and your liberal friends soon... HELL! :sniper:

I'll try and answer that, oh anarchic one.

Basically, from my experience, the whole gender dysphoria thing is entirely difficult to quantify and explain. Partly the reason that it's still so unknown. It can't be diagnosed very easily. Anyway. Imagine, from the very early ages in your life, feeling entirely wrong. You can't quite figure out what it is. Just you feel out of place. Once or twice, you try to push your genitals right back into your body, just because after as much introspection as a 6 year old can manage, they feel the most wrong out of your entire body. Because you're so young, you think nothing of it, but that feeling doesn't go away.

Then, when you reach twelve, it doesn't just come back, it comes back with vengeance. physical attacks, bouts of depression, hatred of yourself for just being so wrong. All focused at the genitals. it builds up, over the years, because now it's such a real part of you that any hope of it disappearing is long gone. You know that you want to be a girl, but what could you possibly do about it? Depression comes and goes, getting worse each time, until you spend most of your day intensely jealous at every girl you see, worried that your family will outcast you and your friends will abandon you. That kind of misery daily. And that's what it's like. Fortunately I've never been one for serious self-harm, so I never turned that way, or to drink, drugs, or the like. If I had, I don't know how I'dve ended up.


back on the initial topic.... transsexuals are the devil. I hate them all, for they are reprobates. (I wonder if I'm being sarcastic?)

Who said I am a liberal?

I am saying that to the liberals... and fake conservatives too...

<<
Nice try. I am not trolling, merely expressing my views which I am allowed to do in this country, there's nothing you can do against that, despite the fact that I know that you liberals would love nothing more than to change "freedom of speech" to "freedom of speech (for liberals only)". I will find a home for you and your liberal friends soon... HELL!>>

Actually on the web there is no freedom of speech.

That's not a big lump of text, friend. Try reading it one sentence at a time if that helps...

It doesn't have sentences, it has random statements linked or not by '...'

If it was more coherent and formed into paragraphs, I might be able to get to the end.

Trannies and shemales are sick people who need treatment.

I thought the gender-altering surgery they got was treatment enough :confused:

http://www.cc.jyu.fi/~jopa/chaplin/pics/CHAPLIN.GIF

Yes, you ARE filthy, pathetic, ignorant, blasphemous, cowardly, hypocritical, and selfish bastards!
You know It is commonly believed that when someone so violently opposes something like homosexuality like you are they are actually fighting with their inner selves about the issue.

Are you a latent wannabe transexual?

<<Yes, you ARE filthy, pathetic, ignorant, blasphemous, cowardly, hypocritical, and selfish bastards!>>

And you are a nihilist to shame Hitler.

How was Hitler a nihilist again? And how am I a nihilist. Your statement is unfounded and incorrect. Furthermore, I know that you worship Stalin and all that being a commie liberal and all that, but seriously, no one likes you communists so no one cares what you say.

I thought the gender-altering surgery they got was treatment enough :confused:

http://www.cc.jyu.fi/~jopa/chaplin/pics/CHAPLIN.GIF

They are still men...

Um Gaston Glock, what religion are you? Coz u certainly aren't christian! I've never seen so much hatred from one person! Jesus loved all people, especially those who the rest of society despised. And judging people like that is also against what the bible says. I really hate to think that you're serious - I hope you're not.

Actually stalin wasn't communist you idiot. He was barely socialist. Read up on the subject before spouting.

Nice try. I am not trolling, merely expressing my views which I am allowed to do in this country, there's nothing you can do against that, despite the fact that I know that you liberals would love nothing more than to change "freedom of speech" to "freedom of speech (for liberals only)". I will find a home for you and your liberal friends soon... HELL! :sniper:
(by the way freedom of speech does not necessarily apply on this forum (at least the American form) it is not hosted in the united states) the only rules that apply are the forum rules

Maybe the whole world isn't just about homosexual rights and abortions and saving the whales and smoking weed...
True, it's just about smoking weed.

You know It is commonly believed that when someone so violently opposes something like homosexuality like you are they are actually fighting with their inner selves about the issue.

Are you a latent wannabe transexual?

I think he's a latent liberal. :D

Maybe it's just me, but I have this horrible suspicion this is just a snare to get me upset enough to say something stupid and get deleted (again). This tranny sez:

I don't need validation. I don't need acceptance. What I need is for people to check their ignorance at the door.

Thank you, drive through.

Well then, if the world isn't about making the world a better place, maybe you could enlighten us and tell us what the world is really about then, pally.

It's about ending the culture of death, moral relativism, the entitlement mentality, this "diversity" hypocrisy, affirmative action,and so and so forth.

It is about illegalizing drugs, illegalizing abortion, illegalizing contraception, illegalizing liberals, illegalizing socialists, and illegalizing lawyers, the IRS, the ATF, and the CIA/NSA.

I think they have severe pyschological issues. I'm not mean to anyone who has conditions like that, but I sure as hell don't bend over backwards to accomodate them.

I am very close to this issue as well.

From what I have seen, people are afraid of the TG community...either because they misunderstand what it is or they don't understand at all. Here are some common misconceptions:

They are perverts
They are gay
They choose to be this way
They are child molesters/abusers
They can change if they really want to
Childern need to be protected from them...especially their own children...kids will become confused to have a "dad" dress as a "mom".
It is just a bedroom fetish...nothing more.
They feel good sexually when they do this.
(and more)

So you know where I am coming from on this (and I have mentioned this before), my husband is a Male to Female crossdresser. In my opinion, he will most likely be having a sex change operation within the next 5 years. Our neighbors know and some are very upset. Our church knows (we go to a Unitarian Universalist church) and even though they accept it, the congregation is divided as to why he is doing this. I have to explain this issue to people over and over.

What people need to understand about this is that people who are TG are that way from a very young age...possibly even from when their mothers were pregnant with them. A typical TG individual first realizes that they think differently around the age of 6 (some earlier and some later). They usually start experimenting around in their Mom's (or Dad's) clothes. It makes them feel nice (not sexually...that comes later). Even though they do this, they realize that society says they shouldn't, so they hide it. This continues into the teen years. Around puberty, they start to get a sexual feeling doing it too (partly because it is taboo and partly just from puberty). They continue to hide that aspect of themselves from the world and begin to become depressed. Those who come out at this time are harshly ridiculed from their peers. Many of them commit suicide because they feel that they are freaks or that they are living a lie and can't handle it. The ones who don't try to live how society tells them.

It is hard...it is depressing. My husband came out at the age of 31. He said that he just couldn't live the lie anymore. He had a choice to make...either live a full and enjoyable life as a woman or "just live" and die inside as a man.

This is what I usually tell people who still do not understand. It usually gets them to think:

Imagine that you were born into the body of a man, but you had the brain (mind) of a woman.

It's almost paradoxial.

I think he's a latent liberal. :D
I would certainly rather be labeled that then a hate monger.

It's about ending the culture of death, moral relativism, the entitlement mentality, this "diversity" hypocrisy, affirmative action,and so and so forth.

It is about illegalizing drugs, illegalizing abortion, illegalizing contraception, illegalizing liberals, illegalizing socialists, and illegalizing lawyers, the IRS, the ATF, and the CIA/NSA.

Talk about a SENSE OF FREAKIN' ENTITLEMENT!!

You're not just a troll - you're a trawler!!!

A true nihilist would believe in nothing, have no loyalties, and no purpose other than, perhaps, an impulse to destroy.

I haven't seen anyone you don't hate yet Gaston. And Hitler was pretty much programmed to kill anyone who didn't fit his comfy little world as well. Maybe not quite nihilism but damn close.


<<It is about illegalizing drugs, illegalizing abortion, illegalizing contraception, illegalizing liberals, illegalizing socialists, and illegalizing lawyers, the IRS, the ATF, and the CIA/NSA.>>

And lets legalise slavery, remove the constitution and kill anyone who looks at us funny.

I'll try and answer that, oh anarchic one.

Basically, from my experience, the whole gender dysphoria thing is entirely difficult to quantify and explain. Partly the reason that it's still so unknown. It can't be diagnosed very easily. Anyway. Imagine, from the very early ages in your life, feeling entirely wrong. You can't quite figure out what it is. Just you feel out of place. Once or twice, you try to push your genitals right back into your body, just because after as much introspection as a 6 year old can manage, they feel the most wrong out of your entire body. Because you're so young, you think nothing of it, but that feeling doesn't go away.

Then, when you reach twelve, it doesn't just come back, it comes back with vengeance. physical attacks, bouts of depression, hatred of yourself for just being so wrong. All focused at the genitals. it builds up, over the years, because now it's such a real part of you that any hope of it disappearing is long gone. You know that you want to be a girl, but what could you possibly do about it? Depression comes and goes, getting worse each time, until you spend most of your day intensely jealous at every girl you see, worried that your family will outcast you and your friends will abandon you. That kind of misery daily. And that's what it's like. Fortunately I've never been one for serious self-harm, so I never turned that way, or to drink, drugs, or the like. If I had, I don't know how I'dve ended up.

:(

That's harse, it makes the worst things in my life sound like a walk in the park. I can only sympathise. Thanks for answering, I've been wondering about it for a while but was waiting for a chance to ask it respectfully.


back on the initial topic.... transsexuals are the devil. I hate them all, for they are reprobates. (I wonder if I'm being sarcastic?)[/QUOTE]

It's about ending the culture of death, moral relativism, the entitlement mentality, this "diversity" hypocrisy, affirmative action,and so and so forth.

It is about illegalizing drugs, illegalizing abortion, illegalizing contraception, illegalizing liberals, illegalizing socialists, and illegalizing lawyers, the IRS, the ATF, and the CIA/NSA.

Heil Hitler.

Um Gaston Glock, what religion are you? Coz u certainly aren't christian! I've never seen so much hatred from one person! Jesus loved all people, especially those who the rest of society despised. And judging people like that is also against what the bible says. I really hate to think that you're serious - I hope you're not.

I hate the sin, I forgive the sinner, but that doesn't mean that I can't be alright with 80% of humainity simply not existing...

I am Jewish if you really want to know, and not the fake kind that is so prevalent today, but the real religious, orthodox kind. And I am also against Israel because it is a Zionist state and zionism is anti-semitism. Plus God's punishment for the nation of Isreal was that it should never again exist, and that the Jews should be a diaspora. Therefore any attempt to create Isreal is going against God's will...

I hate the sin, I forgive the sinner, but that doesn't mean that I can't be alright with 80% of humainity simply not existing...

I am Jewish if you really want to know, and not the fake kind that is so prevalent today, but the real religious, orthodox kind. And I am also against Israel because it is a Zionist state and zionism is anti-semitism. Plus God's punishment for the nation of Isreal was that it should never again exist, and that the Jews should be a diaspora. Therefore any attempt to create Isreal is going against God's will...

Ah, I don't believe you. Piffle.

Talk about a SENSE OF FREAKIN' ENTITLEMENT!!

You're not just a troll - you're a trawler!!!

I am not the one who has the entitlement mentality, it is you liberals who want Uncle Sam to hand everything to you. You liberals who insist on only selfish self-gratification and quick fixes (abortion, contraception, divorce, drugs) to any problems or responsibilities. I am just speaking the truth which hurts you and your evil lifestyle so much so you lash out in anger towards me.

Maybe the whole world isn't just about homosexual rights and abortions and saving the whales and smoking weed...

Dammit!

*my world crumbles*

<<I hate the sin, I forgive the sinner, but that doesn't mean that I can't be alright with 80% of humainity simply not existing...>>

So in fact you do hate the sinner because you would rather they didn't exist. What's the odds that you have sinned too? Damned good, and since all sins are equal, well, I'm sure you can see where I'm taking this.

I find nothing wrong with transexuals. The only thing wrong with them is that there are certain transexuals who are actually better looking than their non-surgical conterparts.

To Gaston Glock:

Go home. Stay home. Never approach a computer ever again. You are wrong. Nobody loves you. Even your cupped hand is reluctant to have your penis inserted into it on a regular basis. :mp5:

There's nothing wrong with transsexuals and I have no idea why anyone is against them. Even bigots can pin AIDS to homosexuals, but transsexuals don't negatively affect anyone.

Nice try. I am not trolling, merely expressing my views which I am allowed to do in this country, there's nothing you can do against that, despite the fact that I know that you liberals would love nothing more than to change "freedom of speech" to "freedom of speech (for liberals only)". I will find a home for you and your liberal friends soon... HELL! :sniper:

I didn't figure that your views could possibly be that ignorant.

It is funny how the people with the most embarrassing views are the most likely to express them loudly. Makes my stay here on Earth a lot more enjoyable.

Ah, I don't believe you. Piffle.

And I don't believe you...

Are we even?

I am not the one who has the entitlement mentality, it is you liberals who want Uncle Sam to hand everything to you. You liberals who insist on only selfish self-gratification and quick fixes (abortion, contraception, divorce, drugs) to any problems or responsibilities. I am just speaking the truth which hurts you and your evil lifestyle so much so you lash out in anger towards me.

Who said anything about being either American or 'Liberal'?

You're not speaking the truth, you're talking fascist bollocks.

And what makes you feel entitled to naysay other people's choices and outlooks? What entitles you to demonize, vilify, or as you say, 'illegalize' legitimate forms of philisophical thought and expression?

I have not done so, yet you have, in this thread. Who has the greater sense of entitlement, then?

Fool.

Talk about a SENSE OF FREAKIN' ENTITLEMENT!!

You're not just a troll - you're a trawler!!!

hehe. I'd expand the metaphor, but it'd only break. That and feeding the troll only encourages them. Relax! I'd be offended too, if what he was saying wasn't so obviously a troll-trawl. It's the subtle ones you have to watch for :D

Anarchic: No problem. One of the first things I made sure I'd do is do my best to indulge people in their questioning. I hate not being in the know about anything, and I definitely know just how awkward the conversation can be. Besides, it's not as if it's an un-natural thing. Why should I refuse someone information that they want to know?
(on that note, if you have anything else, then feel free to ask. I don't assume that you do, but I extend the offer to everyone who's asked before.)

Who said anything about being either American or 'Liberal'?

You're not speaking the truth, you're talking fascist bollocks.

And what makes you feel entitled to naysay other people's choices and outlooks? What entitles you to demonize, vilify, or as you say, 'illegalize' legitimate forms of philisophical thought and expression?

I have not done so, yet you have, in this thread. Who has the greater sense of entitlement, then?

Fool.

Facist...

Ah, the oldest and weakest liberal insult for anyone who happens to disagree with their counter-culture lifestyle and agenda.

You know what, you are a communist... how do you like that? "[L]egitimate forms of philosophical thought and expression" you say? How is killing unborn children a legitimate philosophical expression? How is homosexuality that? If that is your view, then by those standards, murder and rape are legitimate philosophical expressions too.

I hate the sin, I forgive the sinner, but that doesn't mean that I can't be alright with 80% of humainity simply not existing...

I am Jewish if you really want to know, and not the fake kind that is so prevalent today, but the real religious, orthodox kind. And I am also against Israel because it is a Zionist state and zionism is anti-semitism. Plus God's punishment for the nation of Isreal was that it should never again exist, and that the Jews should be a diaspora. Therefore any attempt to create Isreal is going against God's will...
Look everybody, VoteEarly converted to Judaism!

Maybe the whole world isn't just about homosexual rights and abortions and saving the whales and smoking weed...
It's also not about screwing your sister, blowing up gay bars, cockfighting, and drinking old milwaukee.

So Glock, what do you say about people who are born hermaphrodites? Surely they can't go thru life being both genders - they need surgery to become one or the other. Often their parents make that decision for them at birth,

And I don't believe you...

Are we even?

You don't believe that he doesn't believe you? :confused:

Actually that would make sense, with so many religious people for example pretending atheists do in fact believe in God but are just pretending they don't.

Facist...

Ah, the oldest and weakest liberal insult for anyone who happens to disagree with their counter-culture lifestyle and agenda.

You know what, you are a communist... how do you like that?
No his political opinion as far as I can does not follow the lines of comunism (your using it as an insult does not nessisarly make it such)

Look everybody, VoteEarly converted to Judaism!

I don't get it... are you saying that you hate Jews?

Facist...

Ah, the oldest and weakest liberal insult for anyone who happens to disagree with their counter-culture lifestyle and agenda.

You know what, you are a communist... how do you like that?

I see. So it's alright for you to insult people, but not for them to insult you.
How... convenient.

I see. So it's alright for you to insult people, but not for them to insult you.
How... convenient.

I only speak the truth. You on the other hand twist and turn the truth and spread hate, violence, death, destruction, and your sick liberal agenda and all its devices.

I don't get it... are you saying that you hate Jews?
He was another over the top poster with sub average debating skills and a way to just try and get people riled up … he like you was always good for a good laugh though his statement has nothing to do with hating jews ... VoteEarly was a calvanist ... he is just saying you have a lot of the properties that he did but coming from the jewish perspective

They are still men...
Really? I've never met a man with a vagina and no balls or cock. If I were you I'd look up the biological difference between men and women. You may have been screwing the wrong sex.

And he wonders why we laugh.

I cant pretend to put myself in their shoes and feel how they feel. Its not fair for me to cast an opinion to blanket how I feel about all of them. Does it make me a little uncomfortable? -Yes. I'd be bs'ing if I said no. Its only because I dont understand what they are dealing with. And I dont pretend to know how to solve anything for them. I would never treat someone differently simply because I knew they were a transgender person.
However they feel, everyone has to remember they are human beings-individuals with the same rights and protections and wants and needs as everyone else.
Of course they are people too.

I only speak the truth. You on the other hand twist and turn the truth and spread hate, violence, death, destruction, and your sick liberal agenda and all its devices.
Lol silly

:fluffle:

I only speak the truth. You on the other hand twist and turn the truth and spread hate, violence, death, destruction, and your sick liberal agenda and all its devices.

Amusingly enough, I could say the exact same of you.

I find nothing wrong with transexuals. The only thing wrong with them is that there are certain transexuals who are actually better looking than their non-surgical conterparts.

To Gaston Glock:

Go home. Stay home. Never approach a computer ever again. You are wrong. Nobody loves you. Even your cupped hand is reluctant to have your penis inserted into it on a regular basis. :mp5:

Oh good, you are so mature. You must be one of those silly little kids on the internet like that "TIN" guy in the other post who has no life, has no friends, has nothing in fact and wants to kill everyone. Since when does your opinion count or matter to anyone. You should just go and end your sinful ways! Sorry to break it to you, you liberals are losing the fight and liberalism is going out of style like America.

You know what, you are a communist... how do you like that?

I sir, am not one to shrink away, like some departing jackbooted brownshirt headed home in the night fresh from a book-burning.

You are attempting to insult me by calling me a Communist. Very well. By the standards of most of the Americans here on these boards, I certainly AM Communist.

But what of that? Nothing. Nada. Rien. I, sir, am indeed a Communist, certainly by YOUR extraordinarily narrow outlook. But I am far from feeling insulted. I will, with great pride, wear that term for all to see.

You sir, on the other hand, are by your own admission, and not through any overt attempt to label you on my part, a Fascist. How does that suit you, now pally?

First off....I can see why there is anti-semitism worldwide...b/c of people like gaston...now onto my opinion..

I am a devout catholic and I do believe what the church teachings and the words of Christ. So therefor I believe in tolerance and love for ALL humans...because ALL humans are the children of God. If Jesus were in this day and age and not Roman Israel, he would not be in the churches or the republican h.q. or with those who deem themselves worthy of God's love. He would be with those who were thrown away by society. The scorned, including homosexuals and transgender people. I personally believe that to love someone regardless of their life deisions is the epitome of being Christ-Like which is the menaing of Christian. Just my thoughts. God Bless

Oh good, you are so mature. You must be one of those silly little kids on the internet like that "TIN" guy in the other post who has no life, has no friends, has nothing in fact and wants to kill everyone. Since when does your opinion count or matter to anyone. You should just go and end your sinful ways! Sorry to break it to you, you liberals are losing the fight and liberalism is going out of style like America.
Amazing I had the same impression of you

you must be a mind reader

Oh good, you are so mature. You must be one of those silly little kids on the internet like that "TIN" guy in the other post who has no life, has no friends, has nothing in fact and wants to kill everyone. Since when does your opinion count or matter to anyone. You should just go and end your sinful ways! Sorry to break it to you, you liberals are losing the fight and liberalism is going out of style like America.


And the irony entirely passes him by again.

It's about ending the culture of death, moral relativism, the entitlement mentality, this "diversity" hypocrisy, affirmative action,and so and so forth.

It is about illegalizing drugs, illegalizing abortion, illegalizing contraception, illegalizing liberals, illegalizing socialists, and illegalizing lawyers, the IRS, the ATF, and the CIA/NSA.
The culture of death that includes giving retards and kids the death penalty? The culture of death that includes pulling a feeding tube out of a little girl who was beaten into a coma by her parents because if she lived she'd be an embarrasment to Jeb Bush's government and the Florida Division of children and families?

You're just parroting Rush Limbaugh. You don't even think through what you claim to beleive.

Amusingly enough, I could say the exact same of you.

Odd, do I murder unborn children? Do I promote homosexuality and transvestives? Do I want to legalize drugs? Do I allow my daughter to go out dressed like a slut? Do I allow my son to listen to vile rap? Do I give black people precedence over white people even if they are worse qualified for the job and call it "racial equality"/"affirmative action"?

Odd, do I murder unborn children? Do I promote homosexuality and transvestives? Do I want to legalize drugs? Do I allow my daughter to go out dressed like a slut? Do I allow my son to listen to vile rap? Do I give black people precedence over white people even if they are worse qualified for the job and call it "racial equality"/"affirmative action"?
No but you do twist the truth to fit your own needs

Oh good, you are so mature. You must be one of those silly little kids on the internet like that "TIN" guy in the other post who has no life, has no friends, has nothing in fact and wants to kill everyone. Since when does your opinion count or matter to anyone. You should just go and end your sinful ways!

Hey guess what, I could, once again, say the exact same thing about you.
But you'd just accuse me of eating babies.

(I am, in fact, eating an apple tree right now. Well, an apple tree in your eyes. I call it an apple.)

1. You liberals want Uncle Sam to hand everything to you.
2. You liberals who insist on only selfish self-gratification and quick fixes (abortion, contraception, divorce, drugs) to any problems or responsibilities.
3. I am just speaking the truth which hurts you and your evil lifestyle so much so you lash out in anger towards me.

Point 1: You want God to hand you your opinions to you.
Point 2: Abortion and divorce are not "quick fixes", they are life changing desicions. Contraception is merely common sense.
Point 3: You are not speaking the truth. You are an ignorant fuck. You do not hurt me. You can not hurt me. You will never hurt me. If my lifestyle is "evil" then why aren't there raped kids corpses under my bed. I will tell you why. I am not evil, merely disgusted. Disgusted at breathing the same oxygen as you.

The culture of death that includes giving retards and kids the death penalty? The culture of death that includes pulling a feeding tube out of a little girl who was beaten into a coma by her parents because if she lived she'd be an embarrasment to Jeb Bush's government and the Florida Division of children and families?

You're just parroting Rush Limbaugh. You don't even think through what you claim to beleive.

Pardon me? Are you retarded? It was you liberals and your New York Times who wanted Terri Schiavo to die so badly! You are the ones who support euthanasia, abortion, contraception, and drugs! I am against the death penalty, yet you liberals are the ones who continue to uphold it.

You are a capitalist "Moral leader" of the worst kind. You would destroy the world for your precious principles.

Oh, and dead babies can be quite tasty.

Pardon me? Are you retarded? It was you liberals and your New York Times who wanted Terri Schiavo to die so badly! You are the ones who support euthanasia, abortion, contraception, and drugs! I am against the death penalty, yet you liberals are the ones who continue to uphold it.
Ohh they do … you oppose the death penalty

GASP I think you are holding a LIBERAL viewpoint :) nice to see you agree with the “liberal “ agenda by also opposing the death penalty

You are a capitalist "Moral leader" of the worst kind. You would destroy the world for your precious principles.

Au contraire, YOU LIBERALS destroy the world, culture, society, morality, religon, etc. etc.

Capitalism is a valid economic principle. I am certainly against the exploitative sort of capitalism that permeates the US and the world today, mostly preserved and fed by you liberals.

Facist...

Ah, the oldest and weakest liberal insult for anyone who happens to disagree with their counter-culture lifestyle and agenda.

You know what, you are a communist... how do you like that? "[L]egitimate forms of philosophical thought and expression" you say? How is killing unborn children a legitimate philosophical expression? How is homosexuality that? If that is your view, then by those standards, murder and rape are legitimate philosophical expressions too.
Child implies person. How does a lump of flesh with no brain qualify as a person? If early term abortions are murder then so are appendectomies.

Homosexuality is none of your business. If two guys want to screw it doesn't affect your life in the least bit. I thought you conservatives beleived in freedom and small government. Apparently not. You want government to regulate even the consentual sex lives between two adults!

I don't get it... are you saying that you hate Jews?
He's saying that your positions are so idiotic that they must be the work of a troll. I agree with him. Nobody's as stupid as you are pretending to be.

Um, this is sort of off-topic, but I hope everyone knows not to associate "Gaston Glock" here with the real world Gaston Glock. There are many Glock pistol owners and enthusiasts that would find the "Gaston Glock" postings here to be disgusting. Not all gun owners think the way this poster does.

Odd, do I murder unborn children? Do I promote homosexuality and transvestives? Do I want to legalize drugs? Do I allow my daughter to go out dressed like a slut? Do I allow my son to listen to vile rap? Do I give black people precedence over white people even if they are worse qualified for the job and call it "racial equality"/"affirmative action"?

That's not what I meant and you bloody well know it.

Okay, I've heard enough. Those of you who've seen my posts before will know that I'm fairly morally conservative, being a Catholic and all… but what is it with this lumping of "liberal" with "death"? How do transsexuals in ANY WAY relate to abortions or raping little girls or whatever? There's enough tar on the same brush to burn down London.

Oh and yes, transsexuals do make me uncomfortable, I'll admit that… but I haven't fully decided what my opinion is. I'm certainly not going to condemn them outright… just as Jesus didn't condemn prostitutes at all.

Ohh they do … you oppose the death penalty

GASP I think you are holding a LIBERAL viewpoint :) nice to see you agree with the “liberal “ agenda by also opposing the death penalty

Opposing the death penalty is a natural, human reaction to state sponsored murder, so is opposing abortion and euthanasia. No human has to die, in fact, every human has a right to live no matter what.

Um, this is sort of off-topic, but I hope everyone knows not to associate "Gaston Glock" here with the real world Gaston Glock. There are many Glock pistol owners and enthusiasts that would find the "Gaston Glock" postings here to be disgusting. Not all gun owners think the way this poster does.
Ahhh we understand :)

<<Capitalism is a valid economic principle.>>

Oh so? The fact that it is permenantly on the verge of collapse means nothing to you? If oil ran out tomorrow, anarchy would likely reign by August.

Opposing the death penalty is a natural, human reaction to state sponsored murder, so is opposing abortion and euthanasia. No human has to die, in fact, every human has a right to live no matter what.
I happen to agree and your viewpoint is very decidedly liberal

Really? I've never met a man with a vagina and no balls or cock. If I were you I'd look up the biological difference between men and women. You may have been screwing the wrong sex.

Post-op transvestites are genetically men even if they had their male sexual organs removed and have fake mammary glands. They were born men, are men, and will die men (even if they are not fit to be called men in the proper sense of the word, they may be male but they are sick twisted males).

Boy-this thread went right into the sewer

First off....I can see why there is anti-semitism worldwide...b/c of people like gaston...now onto my opinion..

I am a devout catholic and I do believe what the church teachings and the words of Christ. So therefor I believe in tolerance and love for ALL humans...because ALL humans are the children of God. If Jesus were in this day and age and not Roman Israel, he would not be in the churches or the republican h.q. or with those who deem themselves worthy of God's love. He would be with those who were thrown away by society. The scorned, including homosexuals and transgender people. I personally believe that to love someone regardless of their life deisions is the epitome of being Christ-Like which is the menaing of Christian. Just my thoughts. God Bless

I don't hate the sinners. But I desperately hate the sins. And I despise the ones who actively promote and defend counter-culture.

Pardon me? Are you retarded? It was you liberals and your New York Times who wanted Terri Schiavo to die so badly! You are the ones who support euthanasia, abortion, contraception, and drugs! I am against the death penalty, yet you liberals are the ones who continue to uphold it.
The difference is that Terri Sciavo was for all intents and purposes already dead. She had lost the portions of her brain that executed higher functions like thought and emotion. Jeb and his cronies wanted to kill a little girl who was in a reversible coma in order to cover up their incompetance. She recovered, and hopefully will sue Jeb and his government for every red cent.

As for me being retarded, I could lose 100 IQ points and still put together a more logical and well reasoned argument than you.

Opposing the death penalty is a natural, human reaction to state sponsored murder, so is opposing abortion and euthanasia. No human has to die, in fact, every human has a right to live no matter what.

Which is why you posted earlier that you were going to find a home for us all in hell?

Opposing the death penalty is a natural, human reaction to state sponsored murder, so is opposing abortion and euthanasia. No human has to die, in fact, every human has a right to live no matter what.
Exactly, every human has the right to live. A lump of tissue without a brain doesn't qualify as human. Therefore abortion in early stages is OK, and so was pulling Terri Schiavo's feeding tube.

I do find it amazing that one person completely dominated the thread and that it did get away from open and honest debate concerning those who are transgendered.

No but you do twist the truth to fit your own needs

What twisting? I simply defend life and morality as it is meant to be, that which you had to mess up to turn the world into this shit-hole that it is today. The world was a far better place in the 1950's and even better in the 1800's even with that decade's obvious flaws. People weren't as selfish or sinful as they are today.

Well, I've run out of little bits of bread to feed trolls with, and I'm not going back to the kitchen to get any more. Bye, bye troll.

Actually, I don't believe this character is at all real. Will the masquerading old-hand NSer currently on a lark and posing as a self-loathing Jew please remove your mask and 'fess up? No-one'll pillory you to any great extent - in fact, I'm sure we'll all have a bit of a laugh at the ham-handedness of your posts as erm, 'Gaston'.

No?

Opposing the death penalty is a natural, human reaction to state sponsored murder, so is opposing abortion and euthanasia. No human has to die, in fact, every human has a right to live no matter what.

Amusingly enough, an overwhelming number of those evil liberals would be overjoyed if no-one would ever need an abortion or euthenesia. Or the death penalty for that matter.

<<Capitalism is a valid economic principle.>>

Oh so? The fact that it is permenantly on the verge of collapse means nothing to you?

Well, to be honest, so do bikes.

Point 1: You want God to hand you your opinions to you.
Point 2: Abortion and divorce are not "quick fixes", they are life changing desicions. Contraception is merely common sense.
Point 3: You are not speaking the truth. You are an ignorant fuck. You do not hurt me. You can not hurt me. You will never hurt me. If my lifestyle is "evil" then why aren't there raped kids corpses under my bed. I will tell you why. I am not evil, merely disgusted. Disgusted at breathing the same oxygen as you.

You sir, are an atheist bastard and you will die without G_d's grace to look forward to. Abortion and divorce are society's quick fixes to people being irresponsible and being unable to unselfishly love their spouse.

The world was a far better place in the 1950's and even better in the 1800's even with that decade's obvious flaws. People weren't as selfish or sinful as they are today.

Psst, actually they were, but it doesn't get into the history books as much.
Oh, and there's no apostrophe in '1950's' or '1800's', but that's just pedantic, so pretend I didn't say that.
Carry on.

I typed Gaston Glock into the NationStates "find nation" box. I'm now confused. Is this Gaston Glock the same one as the wanker in the forums. If no, then the wanker has apologies to do to the real Gaston Glock. If yes, how is he/she "The only one professional enough to have a Glock .40"? Professional? At what? What profession allows him/her to own a relatively high caliber pistol. I wouldn't trust him/her with a burnt out match.

I'm surprised he didn't rise to the dead babies, they usually do.

<<Well, to be honest, so do bikes.>>

Yeah, but on a bike only I get hurt if I fall off, and there are a lot more destabilising influences on Capitalism.

<<Capitalism is a valid economic principle.>>

Oh so? The fact that it is permenantly on the verge of collapse means nothing to you? If oil ran out tomorrow, anarchy would likely reign by August.

Exploitative capitalism is on the verge of collapse, but not capitalism it is intended to be. Look where your stupid communist experiment ended... hundreds of millions dead and not a single viable communist nation to show for it (China doesn't count, they are fake communists).

So now it's our 'stupid communist experiment'?

Boy-this thread went right into the sewer

It came from the liberal cesspool of sin and death.

You sir, are an atheist bastard and you will die without G_d's grace to look forward to. Abortion and divorce are society's quick fixes to people being irresponsible and being unable to unselfishly love their spouse.

You're merely lashing out in anger because he's showing you the Truth.

You sir, are an atheist bastard and you will die without G_d's grace to look forward to.

Tautology?

It came from the liberal cesspool of sin and death.
No it was mostly because of you I would say

The difference is that Terri Sciavo was for all intents and purposes already dead. She had lost the portions of her brain that executed higher functions like thought and emotion. Jeb and his cronies wanted to kill a little girl who was in a reversible coma in order to cover up their incompetance. She recovered, and hopefully will sue Jeb and his government for every red cent.

As for me being retarded, I could lose 100 IQ points and still put together a more logical and well reasoned argument than you.

You are a communist. End of discussion.

Furthermore, Jeb Bush does some good things but also many bad things. Don't we all. Just some more than others. You being a pro-death, pro-homosexuality- anti-religion, anti-capitalism liberal slave are the worst of humanity.

You sir, are an atheist bastard and you will die without G_d's grace to look forward to. Abortion and divorce are society's quick fixes to people being irresponsible and being unable to unselfishly love their spouse.

Atheist and proud of it. I am going to die anyway. You are going to die. We are all going to die. It is a fact of life. The Pope died recently. Would you call him an "atheist bastard". You are also an atheist. You just belive in one more god than I do.

N.B Hakartopia, thanks for sticking up for me.

Exploitative capitalism is on the verge of collapse, but not capitalism it is intended to be. Look where your stupid communist experiment ended... hundreds of millions dead and not a single viable communist nation to show for it (China doesn't count, they are fake communists).

So all those tribes in africa that were peacefully communist before the white man gave them capitalism were really mass murderers.

oh, you mean Soviet Russia. The Soviets worked, once the Bolsheviks took over (Lenin's allies) then it stopped being communist, whatever it tried to say it turned into dictatorial socialism at best and plain faschism at worst.

Gaston, you're not for real, because you kepp talking about people going to hell...umm...sorry to tell you but orthodox judaism dosen't acknowledge the existence of a fiery punishment of hell. My degree in religion (No im not bragging just backing up my facts) and all the orthodox jews I know (including three rabbis) tell me so...so I think you're just making this up to rile people for a show. No offense and God Bless.

I typed Gaston Glock into the NationStates "find nation" box. I'm now confused. Is this Gaston Glock the same one as the wanker in the forums. If no, then the wanker has apologies to do to the real Gaston Glock. If yes, how is he/she "The only one professional enough to have a Glock .40"? Professional? At what? What profession allows him/her to own a relatively high caliber pistol. I wouldn't trust him/her with a burnt out match.

I dunno, but anyone who manages to incorporate guns into their NS name is betraying a certain fascination with phallic symbology, don'tcha think?

I do find it amazing that one person completely dominated the thread and that it did get away from open and honest debate concerning those who are transgendered.

Are you transgendered? How's that working out for you? Did you stick your penis in another man's rectum or did another man stick his penis in yours?

It came from the liberal cesspool of sin and death.

Oh whatever will those silly liberals think of next?

You are a communist. End of discussion.

Furthermore, Jeb Bush does some good things but also many bad things. Don't we all. Just some more than others. You being a pro-death, pro-homosexuality- anti-religion, anti-capitalism liberal slave are the worst of humanity.
Silly :fluffle:

Are you transgendered? How's that working out for you? Did you stick your penis in another man's rectum or did another man stick his penis in yours?
Even if he was it would be none of your busniess

Yes, you ARE filthy, pathetic, ignorant, blasphemous, cowardly, hypocritical, and selfish bastards!

Whatever your Faith is, its intolerance is a blasphemy upon mine, and thus I am proud to blaspheme it. As for the rest, I bathe, I pity you, I'm not particularly cowardly, I try very hard to avoid hypocrisy, and I am a bit selfish, but at least I dont impose my worldview on others, except insofar as I attempt to hinder their attempts to impose their worldview on me. Oh, and ignorance is bliss, and I'm definitely not blissful.

I typed Gaston Glock into the NationStates "find nation" box. I'm now confused. Is this Gaston Glock the same one as the wanker in the forums. If no, then the wanker has apologies to do to the real Gaston Glock. If yes, how is he/she "The only one professional enough to have a Glock .40"? Professional? At what? What profession allows him/her to own a relatively high caliber pistol. I wouldn't trust him/her with a burnt out match.

High caliber? Are you kidding me? A .40 S&W? Haha! You liberals don't want to get me started on the right to bear arms and all that. A .50AE is high caliber, or .50BMG or 20mm NATO for that matter, but not a .40S&W. Anyway, the motto is a joke on a police officer. Inside joke, you wouldn't get it. My Glocks are in 9mm and .45ACP, thank you very much.

Are you transgendered? How's that working out for you? Did you stick your penis in another man's rectum or did another man stick his penis in yours?

Now who's immature? W@nker.

Trannies and shemales are sick people who need treatment.
That's the thing. They need treatment, in the form of a sex change in order to fix the fact that their brains were born into the wrong body.

Yes, you ARE filthy, pathetic, ignorant, blasphemous, cowardly, hypocritical, and selfish bastards!
At least we're not hate-filled and evil. :)

Furthermore, I know that you worship Stalin and all that being a commie liberal and all that, but seriously, no one likes you communists so no one cares what you say.
:rolleyes:

illegalizing liberals, illegalizing socialists
Hypocrite!

Nice try. I am not trolling, merely expressing my views which I am allowed to do in this country, there's nothing you can do against that, despite the fact that I know that you liberals would love nothing more than to change "freedom of speech" to "freedom of speech (for liberals only)

So you are just as bad as those who want to ban conservative speech!

It is about illegalizing drugs, illegalizing abortion, illegalizing contraception, illegalizing liberals, illegalizing socialists, and illegalizing lawyers, the IRS, the ATF, and the CIA/NSA.
I'm sorry, but you cannot expect the government to pay for the massive policing and prison operations required to fight a war on drugs, without levying taxes.

It is hard...it is depressing. My husband came out at the age of 31. He said that he just couldn't live the lie anymore. He had a choice to make...either live a full and enjoyable life as a woman or "just live" and die inside as a man.
It seems that all the TG cases I hear of are male to female. Are there any women who become men? I only hear about men who become women. Is this due to the flawed male Y chromosone?

I am not the one who has the entitlement mentality, it is you liberals who want Uncle Sam to hand everything to you. You liberals who insist on only selfish self-gratification and quick fixes (abortion, contraception, divorce, drugs) to any problems or responsibilities.
How is the right to abortion and divorce being "handed everything"? Do you think that having freedom of speech is being "handed something" too?

I am just speaking the truth which hurts you and your evil lifestyle so much so you lash out in anger towards me.
You were the one who came into this thread lashing out in anger:
Wow liberals are such filthy scum...

Trannies and shemales are sick people who need treatment. They are disgusting and unnatural and shouldn't be allowed to roam freely.

I don't get it... are you saying that you hate Jews?
No, VoteEarly was a former member of this forum who was a hardcore Calvinist Christian fundamentalist theocrat, with views similar to yours. Actually, he was able to argue for his views without flaming from the first.

I only speak the truth. You on the other hand twist and turn the truth and spread hate, violence, death, destruction, and your sick liberal agenda and all its devices.
http://e.deviantart.com/emoticons/f/fork.gif <-- yep, that's us liberals!

Odd, do I murder unborn children?
No, you kill born children!!!11!!*

*j/k

Nice try. I am not trolling, merely expressing my views which I am allowed to do in this country, there's nothing you can do against that, despite the fact that I know that you liberals would love nothing more than to change "freedom of speech" to "freedom of speech (for liberals only)". I will find a home for you and your liberal friends soon... HELL! :sniper:
Opposing the death penalty is a natural, human reaction to state sponsored murder, so is opposing abortion and euthanasia. No human has to die, in fact, every human has a right to live no matter what.

This seens to be one hell of a contradiction. Lets shoot people & defend life on the same post. Good.
Who are you calling the hypocrites?

Atheist and proud of it. I am going to die anyway. You are going to die. We are all going to die. It is a fact of life. The Pope died recently. Would you call him an "atheist bastard". You are also an atheist. You just belive in one more god than I do.

N.B Hakartopia, thanks for sticking up for me.

You are an idiot. If I believe in G_d, then I am not an atheist, am I now?

Originally Posted by The Noble Men
You are also an atheist. You just belive in one more god than I do.

I think there's your answer.

It's about ending the culture of death, moral relativism, the entitlement mentality, this "diversity" hypocrisy, affirmative action,and so and so forth.

It is about illegalizing drugs, illegalizing abortion, illegalizing contraception, illegalizing liberals, illegalizing socialists, and illegalizing lawyers, the IRS, the ATF, and the CIA/NSA.

You're in the wrong country. You'ld feel more comfortable living in Iran.

You are an idiot. If I believe in G_d, then I am not an atheist, am I now?

Do you believe in Anubis?

So all those tribes in africa that were peacefully communist before the white man gave them capitalism were really mass murderers.

They went to brutal and complete war with other tribes. Primitive tribal life styles are by definition purely communist but they are so small in size and pathetic in terms of innovation, power, contribution to mankind, and mark on history that they are forgetable.

I dunno, but anyone who manages to incorporate guns into their NS name is betraying a certain fascination with phallic symbology, don'tcha think?

How are guns phallic symbols now? Your head might as well be a phallic symbol if a gun is.

Here's a point. Is God an Atheist? If not, what higher power does he worship. :D

Silly :fluffle:

Thank you for the hug. You aren't all bad after all. You just pretend to be.

You are a communist. End of discussion.

Furthermore, Jeb Bush does some good things but also many bad things. Don't we all. Just some more than others. You being a pro-death, pro-homosexuality- anti-religion, anti-capitalism liberal slave are the worst of humanity.
I'm a communist? How? I run a small business to supplement my paycheck. Communists dont' beleive in free enterprise.

You obviously don't know what you are talking about, on any subject.

I'm pro death? No, I respect human life.

I'm pro homosexuality? No, I'm pro Freedom. If you're not then kindly move to Iran or North Korea and stop trampling my nation's reputation.

I'm anti religion? Yes! You finally got one right! Sheer dumb luck, I'm sure.

I'm anti capitalism? Nope. I beleive in capitalism as long as it's regulated.

Liberal slave? half right. I'm liberal, but I'm nobody's slave. Unlike you. Tell me slave boy, what does rush limbaugh's *edit* taste like?

How are guns phallic symbols now? Your head might as well be a phallic symbol if a gun is.

No, no, no...

I've run out of bits of bread. Go beg TIN or somebody.

Silly hungry trolls.

Like squirrels.

How are guns phallic symbols now? Your head might as well be a phallic symbol if a gun is.
Does someone need a dictionary?

Whatever your Faith is, its intolerance is a blasphemy upon mine, and thus I am proud to blaspheme it. As for the rest, I bathe, I pity you, I'm not particularly cowardly, I try very hard to avoid hypocrisy, and I am a bit selfish, but at least I dont impose my worldview on others, except insofar as I attempt to hinder their attempts to impose their worldview on me. Oh, and ignorance is bliss, and I'm definitely not blissful.

Being intolerant of evil is not a bad thing.. go on you wicked man.. go and sin some more... go home to your 4th wife, your estranged drug addict son, your daughter who dresses like a whore, your cable TV and frozen meals, your SUV and Nintendo. Go and placate your thirst for selfish pleasure. I could care less if you live and die an emoty, meaningless, sinful life.

Do you believe in Anubis?

Did I say that? Why, do you?

High caliber? Are you kidding me? A .40 S&W? Haha! You liberals don't want to get me started on the right to bear arms and all that.
You conservatives! There's more to the world than legalising guns! You expect uncle sam to hand everything to you! This conservative culture of entitlement is sickening!

Like squirrels.

Always eating nuts. Gnaw gnaw gnaw.
Always with two hands. Gnaw gnaw gnaw.
And occationally they look up in shock and go "uh? Whu? Wot?"
Almost as if they're saying "Did I leave the gas on? ... No! No I'm a fucking squirrel!". Gnaw gnaw gnaw.

Being intolerant of evil is not a bad thing.. go on you wicked man.. go and sin some more... go home to your 4th wife, your estranged drug addict son, your daughter who dresses like a whore, your cable TV and frozen meals, your SUV and Nintendo. Go and placate your thirst for selfish pleasure. I could care less if you live and die an emoty, meaningless, sinful life.

Nintendo=evil? How?

Yay for Eddie Izzard

That's the thing. They need treatment, in the form of a sex change in order to fix the fact that their brains were born into the wrong body.


At least we're not hate-filled and evil. :)


:rolleyes:


Hypocrite!



So you are just as bad as those who want to ban conservative speech!


I'm sorry, but you cannot expect the government to pay for the massive policing and prison operations required to fight a war on drugs, without levying taxes.


It seems that all the TG cases I hear of are male to female. Are there any women who become men? I only hear about men who become women. Is this due to the flawed male Y chromosone?


How is the right to abortion and divorce being "handed everything"? Do you think that having freedom of speech is being "handed something" too?


You were the one who came into this thread lashing out in anger:



No, VoteEarly was a former member of this forum who was a hardcore Calvinist Christian fundamentalist theocrat, with views similar to yours. Actually, he was able to argue for his views without flaming from the first.


http://e.deviantart.com/emoticons/f/fork.gif <-- yep, that's us liberals!


No, you kill born children!!!11!!*

*j/k

Thank you for making a useless contribution to this thread. If you have nothing of value to say, go elsewhere. Did you even have a point? Liberal...

Thank you for making a useless contribution to this thread. If you have nothing of value to say, go elsewhere. Did you even have a point? Liberal...
Yup he did a very good job of explaining the error of your evil ways :p

Did I say that? Why, do you?

Are you incapable of answering a question? Do you know what a question is?

Thank you for making a useless contribution to this thread. If you have nothing of value to say, go elsewhere. Did you even have a point? Liberal...

Do you even have a point?

Thank you for making a useless contribution to this thread. If you have nothing of value to say, go elsewhere. Did you even have a point? Liberal...
You know, Liberal is not an insult. I'd much rather be called liberal for example, than Gaston Glock. Gaston Glock is a synonym for Santorum in case you didn't know.

Always eating nuts. Gnaw gnaw gnaw.
Always with two hands. Gnaw gnaw gnaw.
And occationally they look up in shock and go "uh? Whu? Wot?"
Almost as if they're saying "Did I leave the gas on? ... No! No I'm a fucking squirrel!". Gnaw gnaw gnaw.
http://www.theage.com.au/ffxImage/urlpicture_id_1064988380038_2003/10/03/Izzard,0.jpg

Love him

I'm a communist? How? I run a small business to supplement my paycheck. Communists dont' beleive in free enterprise.

You obviously don't know what you are talking about, on any subject.

I'm pro death? No, I respect human life.

I'm pro homosexuality? No, I'm pro Freedom. If you're not then kindly move to Iran or North Korea and stop trampling my nation's reputation.

I'm anti religion? Yes! You finally got one right! Sheer dumb luck, I'm sure.

I'm anti capitalism? Nope. I beleive in capitalism as long as it's regulated.

Liberal slave? half right. I'm liberal, but I'm nobody's slave. Unlike you. Tell me slave boy, what does rush limbaugh's *edit* taste like?

Rush Limbaugh is one of the few gentiles who are commited to fighting liberalism and socialism. He is a good man, even if he is a gentile.

The face is that you are an evil, wicked, liberal sinner and want to kill the unborn and promote counter-culture.

Thank you for making a useless contribution to this thread. If you have nothing of value to say, go elsewhere. Did you even have a point? Liberal...

Typical religious nutcase response.

http://www.theage.com.au/ffxImage/urlpicture_id_1064988380038_2003/10/03/Izzard,0.jpg

Love him

ME TOO!!! Oh my gosh dressed to kill is my fav comedy album!

Yay for Eddie Izzard

Yay for action executive travestites.

Always eating nuts. Gnaw gnaw gnaw.
Always with two hands. Gnaw gnaw gnaw.
And occationally they look up in shock and go "uh? Whu? Wot?"
Almost as if they're saying "Did I leave the gas on? ... No! No I'm a fucking squirrel!". Gnaw gnaw gnaw.

I love it when liberals realize that they are wrong and have lived sinful lives and and having no life left resort to random, albeit slightly funny sentences that have nothing to do with the topic at hand.

ME TOO!!! Oh my gosh dressed to kill is my fav comedy album!
I have to say Circle is probably mine. Though they are all good. Even Sexie, to a certain extent.

Yay for action executive travestites.

OH yeah!

Are you incapable of answering a question? Do you know what a question is?

I guess you don't know how to infer something from something. I obviously do not believe in Anubis you idiot.

Since im francophone I LOVE to listen to his french albums....for some reason it's funnier in his ""frenchwithanenglishaccent"" kinda way of doing things lol.

I love it when liberals realize that they are wrong and have lived sinful lives and and having no life left resort to random, albeit slightly funny sentences that have nothing to do with the topic at hand.
Why do you think we are all liberal.

Though you can't be all bad, you have some appreciation for Eddie :fluffle:

I love it when liberals realize that they are wrong and have lived sinful lives and and having no life left resort to random, albeit slightly funny sentences that have nothing to do with the topic at hand.

Please tell me where I realised I am wrong and living a sinful life.

I love it when liberals realize that they are wrong and have lived sinful lives and and having no life left resort to random, albeit slightly funny sentences that have nothing to do with the topic at hand.
Look up who wrote the song ... it may bring meaning to its relevance (if you are not capable it has been posted)

I love it when liberals realize that they are wrong and have lived sinful lives and and having no life left resort to random, albeit slightly funny sentences that have nothing to do with the topic at hand.

Does that make you a liberal?

Since im francophone I LOVE to listen to his french albums....for some reason it's funnier in his ""frenchwithanenglishaccent"" kinda way of doing things lol.
He has French albums, must find, must find.:D

I guess you don't know how to infer something from something. I obviously do not believe in Anubis you idiot.

Why not? How is that obvious?
Why take the risk of not believing in Anubis.
If you don't, and he excists, he will judge you after your death and judge you harshly. He will throw your soul into the maw of the great Devourer and thus ultimate oblivion.
Do you want ultimate oblivion?

Rush Limbaugh is one of the few gentiles who are commited to fighting liberalism and socialism. He is a good man, even if he is a gentile.

The face is that you are an evil, wicked, liberal sinner and want to kill the unborn and promote counter-culture.
Yeah, I'm also planning to screw your daughter and make her have my abortion.

Does that make you a liberal?

Yes. And it makes it obvious to all the honest God-fearing peons that you eat babies.

With cheese.

You sir, are an atheist bastard and you will die without G_d's grace to look forward to.

Yes, you ARE filthy, pathetic, ignorant, blasphemous, cowardly, hypocritical, and selfish bastards!
Flaming and personal attacks may be welcome at your other forums, Gaston Glock, but that's not the case here. If you can't debate civilly here, you've can't debate here. Consider this an Official Warning for flaming. You only get one.

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You know, Liberal is not an insult. I'd much rather be called liberal for example, than Gaston Glock. Gaston Glock is a synonym for Santorum in case you didn't know.

Rick Santorum is another gentile who is though enough to occasionally stand up against you filthy liberal sinners.

My other non-gentile heroes include such great men as: Sean Hannity, Mark Levin, Richard Nixon, Joe McCarthy, Abraham Lincoln, Reagan, Scalia, the late Pope John Paul II, the new pope, Benedict XVI, Cardinal Schoenborn, Cardinal Arinze, and Ann Coulter.

Yes. And it makes it obvious to all the honest God-fearing peons that you eat babies.

With cheese.

Don't profane cheese like that. Cheese is lovely. Except processed cheese. It tastes like acryllic.

Why not? How is that obvious?
Why take the risk of not believing in Anubis.
If you don't, and he excists, he will judge you after your death and judge you harshly. He will throw your soul into the maw of the great Devourer and thus ultimate oblivion.
Do you want ultimate oblivion?
He does not exist... you really are defeated, liberal...go off and sin or maybe (if you actually can) change your sinful ways...

Rick Santorum is another gentile who is though enough to occasionally stand up against you filthy liberal sinners.

My other non-gentile heroes include such great men as: Sean Hannity, Mark Levin, Richard Nixon, Joe McCarthy, Abraham Lincoln, Reagan, Scalia, the late Pope John Paul II, the new pope, Benedict XVI, Cardinal Schoenborn, Cardinal Arinze, and Ann Coulter.
Not that santorum, who is disgusting, this santorum

www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=santorum&r=f

Flaming and personal attacks may be welcome at your other forums, Gaston Glock, but that's not the case here. If you can't debate civilly here, you've can't debate here. Consider this an Official Warning for flaming. You only get one.

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You are a liberal...

Flaming and personal attacks may be welcome at your other forums, Gaston Glock, but that's not the case here. If you can't debate civilly here, you've can't debate here. Consider this an Official Warning for flaming. You only get one.

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Hey Frisbee - is Gaston now one step over the line with this last bit?

Rick Santorum is another gentile who is though enough to occasionally stand up against you filthy liberal sinners.

Rick Santorum is another gentile who is though enough to occasionally stand up against you filthy liberal sinners.

My other non-gentile heroes include such great men as: Sean Hannity, Mark Levin, Richard Nixon, Joe McCarthy, Abraham Lincoln, Reagan, Scalia, the late Pope John Paul II, the new pope, Benedict XVI, Cardinal Schoenborn, Cardinal Arinze, and Ann Coulter.

As a catholic and a lover of all God's children it disgusts and most of all saddens me for YOU to include JPII on your list....regardless of who or what he was against HE NEVER flamed or verbally abused a group of people EVER. He never acted like you are now...he is a million times the person you will ever be and that is obvious through your words and idiotic actions that do everyhting BUT spread God's graces....

Mrs. Garisson best expresses my feelings on the issue when She/He said: "I'm not a woman!!!! I'm just a man with a mutilated penis!"

As a catholic and a lover of all God's children it disgusts and most of all saddens me for YOU to include JPII on your list....regardless of who or what he was against HE NEVER flamed or verbally abused a group of people EVER. He never acted like you are now...he is a million times the person you will ever be and that is obvious through your words and idiotic actions that do everyhting BUT spread God's graces....

Silence, you pretend-conservative... you bad Catholic...

Flaming and personal attacks may be welcome at your other forums, Gaston Glock, but that's not the case here. If you can't debate civilly here, you've can't debate here. Consider this an Official Warning for flaming. You only get one.

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I love you already. 3 cheers for Frisbeeteria!

Hip-hip....hooray! :)

Hip-hip....hooray! :) :)

Hip-hip....hooray! :) :) :)

Silence, you pretend-conservative... you bad Catholic...

I am not a pretend catholic....I dont preted to be anyhting I am what I am. These last few responses reinforce my opinion that you are faking this whole verbal war just to get a rile out of people.

He does not exist... you really are defeated, liberal...go off and sin or maybe (if you actually can) change your sinful ways...

Can you prove he does not excist?
Can you prove your god does?

And what are my sinful ways I need to change, and why should I?

I smell a parody around here; claiming to be adamantly Jewish and apparantly forgetting about it now and again is rather suspicious.

You are a liberal...

Oh the humanity. :rolleyes:

Oh the humanity. :rolleyes:

Indeed, you liberals want to destroy humanity...

I smell a parody around here; claiming to be adamantly Jewish and apparantly forgetting about it now and again is rather suspicious.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=8888750&postcount=5

According to frisbeeteria he's not. We done been invaded, apparently.

Indeed, you liberals want to destroy humanity...

Now why would we want to do that?
Remember, you stated the destruction of humanity as our *goal*, not as a side-effect of our sinful ways or something.

I smell a parody around here; claiming to be adamantly Jewish and apparantly forgetting about it now and again is rather suspicious.

Ouch, you've got me, I confess. I did try a little though. Guess who's troll account this is?

Hey, I tried. Anyway, nice to have a nice pretend psycho around. Cheers me up after a bad start of the week at work. I will post with my regular account as soon as you guess who I am.

I must say though, pretending this hard is hard work. My fingers feel a bit numb.

Ouch, you've got me, I confess. I did try a little though. Guess who's troll account this is?

Hey, I tried. Anyway, nice to have a nice pretend psycho around. Cheers me up after a bad start of the week at work. I will post with my regular account as soon as you guess who I am.

I must say though, pretending this hard is hard work. My fingers feel a bit numb.

TIN?

Ouch, you've got me, I confess. I did try a little though. Guess who's troll account this is?

Hey, I tried. Anyway, nice to have a nice pretend psycho around. Cheers me up after a bad start of the week at work. I will post with my regular account as soon as you guess who I am.

I must say though, pretending this hard is hard work. My fingers feel a bit numb.

Is this sarcasm?

TIN?

No no... I would never name myself, now would I? I do feel sorry for TIN though... I hope he feels better after a good night's sleep...

Feh.

Now we have to make a bunch of guesses at your identity?

Feh.

Guess again.

Is this sarcasm?

Haha, no, not at all. I guess you guys bought a little too much into it. Come on, keep guessing. It is NOT that difficult...

Feh.

Now we have to make a bunch of guesses at your identity?

Feh.

Guess again.

A bunch? As many as you like. I assure you it is not that hard.

No no... I would never name myself, now would I? I do feel sorry for TIN though... I hope he feels better after a good night's sleep...

And you won't come clean even then? What's the point of guessing, Gaston?

Piffle, I say.

This is the biggest anticlimax ever!

I wish more people turned out to be parodies.

And you won't come clean even then? What's the point of guessing, Gaston?

Piffle, I say.

Aw, you guys are no fun. If no one gets it by 3 PM EST, I will just give up and tell you...

No kidding.

I think frisbeeteria's wind got up his skirts on this one.

I wish more people turned out to be parodies.
The problem being that it is against forum rules to have puppet parodies

This is the biggest anticlimax ever!

Is that bad?

Now that Troll boy has changed his tune......(which in my books makes him no better and infact even worse).....Is it possible to get back on topic?
Because the poster and creator of this thread obviously has issues here that he wishes to discuss and Gaston Glock has so kindly deflected it away from him.

The problem being that it is against forum rules to have puppet parodies

No it's not! ;)

The problem being that it is against forum rules to have puppet parodies

I meant people like the pope and Bush.

Now that Troll boy has changed his tune......(which in my books makes him no better and infact even worse).....Is it possible to get back on topic?
Because the poster and creator of this thread obviously has issues here that he wishes to discuss and Gaston Glock has so kindly deflected it away from him.

Oh boo hoo hoo, Mr. I-Can't-Take-An-Obvious-Joke...

I am not Gaston Glock if you didn't catch that...

Aw, you guys are no fun. If no one gets it by 3 PM EST, I will just give up and tell you...

**Crosses Self** Excuse me for this Jesus...

Dude after all your extremely rude comments (especially for any trans. people) you just expect it to be one big joke and us all to get a laugh.....well....screw you...

This is the biggest anticlimax ever!

Sorry for outing him, but I just had to know. Ya gotta admit he did a pretty good job, though.

Hmm... Can't guess who it is, though, I'd need a hint...

I only like funny trolls.

Sorry for outing him, but I just had to know. Ya gotta admit he did a pretty good job, though.

Hmm... Can't guess who it is, though, I'd need a hint...

Arggh matey, you drive a hard bargain...

Arggh matey, you drive a hard bargain...

Legless Pirates?

Oh boo hoo hoo, Mr. I-Can't-Take-An-Obvious-Joke...

I am not Gaston Glock if you didn't catch that...
He did but without knowledge of your real name he referred to you by the only name he knew you buy

It may be a big joke to you but not to those of us who wanted to honestly discuss the topic at hand.

Aw, you guys are no fun. If no one gets it by 3 PM EST, I will just give up and tell you...

Ah, fun. Mmm. Like picking the wings off of houseflies, yes? While wearing a mask. Yeah. Fun stuff.

Is that bad?

Yes! It is! Remember Matrix 3?

Neo:"Why is it I can stop Machines with my mind in the real world? How come I can jack into the matrix with my mind? What the hell's going on?"

The Oracle: "You have a connection to the Source."

Neo nods head. They talk about something else...

The Source. A connection to it. Neo. Connected. Then they change the subject and talk about something else. The Source. Six months' wait.

I feel like that right now. :(

Well, I've been reading this thread from it's start and I really didn't think it was all that funny at it's end.

To reply to one serious point in the midst of the gimmick-account crap...

"It seems that all the TG cases I hear of are male to female. Are there any women who become men? I only hear about men who become women. Is this due to the flawed male Y chromosone?"

--There are a lot of female-male TG cases, but not as many as male-female, and not as widely documented. They're also harder to 'notice'... as it is easier for a woman to look like a young, somewhat-effeminate male than it is for a man to be a convincing woman without surgery.

I've studied the phenomenon of intersex and androgyny in quite a lot of detail, and my opinion is, always has been and will always be: It doesn't hurt anyone else, it resolves a lot of repressed issues that can cause many, many social and mental problems, and ultimately it makes people happier about themselves. So I'm all for it - I have a lot of intersex friends and it doesn't bother me at all.

(There's also a theory that the increasing emergence of indeterminate sex children and 'androgynous' thinking or feelings is actually evolution occuring, and that society will eventually become completely androgynous... not a lot of research to back it up though.)

-Seven

There's also a theory that the increasing emergence of indeterminate sex children and 'androgynous' thinking or feelings is actually evolution occuring, and that society will eventually become completely androgynous... not a lot of research to back it up though.

-Seven

Didn't understand that bit. Androgynous?

Didn't understand that bit. Androgynous?
an·drog·y·nous Audio pronunciation of "androgynous" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (n-drj-ns)
adj.

1. Biology. Having both female and male characteristics; hermaphroditic.
2. Being neither distinguishably masculine nor feminine, as in dress, appearance, or behavior.

I've studied the phenomenon of intersex and androgyny in quite a lot of detail, and my opinion is, always has been and will always be: It doesn't hurt anyone else, it resolves a lot of repressed issues that can cause many, many social and mental problems, and ultimately it makes people happier about themselves. So I'm all for it - I have a lot of intersex friends and it doesn't bother me at all.

Actually, intersex is a term which when used correctly is applied to physical conditions. Androgyny is more of a veiw that some people hold about their own psychologies and minds. To sum up, intersex people have a physical condition, whereas androgynous people don't necessarily (although some might).

an·drog·y·nous Audio pronunciation of "androgynous" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (n-drj-ns)
adj.

1. Biology. Having both female and male characteristics; hermaphroditic.
2. Being neither distinguishably masculine nor feminine, as in dress, appearance, or behavior.

Thanks.

Actually, intersex is a term which when used correctly is applied to physical conditions. Androgyny is more of a veiw that some people hold about their own psychologies and minds. To sum up, intersex people have a physical condition, whereas androgynous people don't necessarily (although some might).


I know this... That's why I said "intersex AND androgyny" rather than just one or the other, despite the fact that only intersex was the topic at hand - I was merely stating that I have studied androgyny as a matter of course.

I'm currently formulating a testable hypothesis of my own, correlating the prevalence of the two. If I didn't know the difference between the two major terms I was using in my hypothesis, I would be a rather poor scientist, would I not? :D

ah this thread was great fun. thanks, i needed a laugh.

I know this... That's why I said "intersex AND androgyny" rather than just one or the other, despite the fact that only intersex was the topic at hand - I was merely stating that I have studied androgyny as a matter of course.

I'm currently formulating a testable hypothesis of my own, correlating the prevalence of the two. If I didn't know the difference between the two major terms I was using in my hypothesis, I would be a rather poor scientist, would I not? :D

What kind of scientist are you? And what's your hypothesis?

It's about ending the culture of death, moral relativism, the entitlement mentality, this "diversity" hypocrisy, affirmative action,and so and so forth.

It is about illegalizing drugs, illegalizing abortion, illegalizing contraception, illegalizing liberals, illegalizing socialists, and illegalizing lawyers, the IRS, the ATF, and the CIA/NSA.
Yup. You're definitely a spoof. Quite amusing, too.

Yeah, I'm also planning to screw your daughter and make her have my abortion.
Speaking of crossing lines ...

Drunk commies reborn is forumbanned for three days for flaming and threatening.

And just so you know, the "I was only joking" defense will not help you here. You push too hard, we respond in kind.

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I'm a psychologist. (Don't you tell me it's not a science! *shakes fists!*)

The hypothesis is a rather irritatingly obvious one - but even the most obvious statement should have some evidence to back it up. It's in the very early stages of development as I don't have the time or resources to devote to properly formulating a study... but it's title is:

"Androgyny and Intersex: Psychological and Physical Representations of a Similar Phenomenon"

So far it's in the introductory stages, I'm meta-analysing previous research and theories to get a firm base for my own studies. I will eventually be trying to ascertain whether androgyny and intersex are, in any firm way, linked. It's hard to really study, because intersex individuals ("hermaphrodites") already have a mixed or skewed gender identity so the results would have to take that into account.

*Grumbles... should be interested in something simpler, no?*