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Good definition of "chav"

Shadowstorm Imperium
15-05-2005, 22:35
This should clear things up for anyone who doesn't know what a chav is.

Emerging British subculture which is quickly becoming an epidemic. Chavs can be found the length and breadth of the country, hanging around any junk food outlet, off licence or just hanging around the streets, where they pass the time by vandalising property, drinking cheap cider, shouting abuse at passers by and terrorising old people.

Appearance: Chavs have a strict dress code. Designer labels are everything, although knocked off/fake items are almost de-rigeur. Typically, the male chav will wear a Nickelson or Schott hooded top, baggy tracksuit trousers, white designer trainers, and a baseball cap by burberry or Nike. The female chav (chavette) will have peroxide blonde hair scrunched so tight into a pony tail with colourful scrunchies that her forehead stretches. She will wear a dark blue tracksuit with white stripes, an enormous puffa jacket, hoop earrings, and white trainers. Female chavs are forbidden from wearing socks, and all chavs must wear as much fake gold jewellery as they can fit on their bodies. Mobiles are an added status symbol, and when equipped, the chav must shout into it in the most anti-social way possible, using at least one expletive and the word "innit" per second. Every other word in between should be unrecognisable to non-chavs.

Cars: Typically the Vauxhall Nova, but could include Ford Escort/Orion, Vauxhall Astra, and for chavs with "bling", even a totally shagged 3 series BMW. Whatever the type of car, it must have a spoiler shaped plank of MDF nailed to the back, 20" alloy wheels which rub on the wheel arches over every bump, a badly fitted bodykit (extra points for being able to see EXACTLY where the car ends and bodykit starts), a lairy paint job with runs in it, exhaust pipes the size of the space shuttle's booster nozzles, and blue LED's on the washer jets. Neon undercar lighting is also desirable.

Attitude: The chav's attitude depends heavily on the number of mates backing him up. If he's on his own, he'll skulk along anonymously. In numbers, he'll challenge anyone to anything.
Isanyonehome
15-05-2005, 23:44
Bring your basic "chav" to the US.

Leave aside what your basic gang banger (bloods, crips, various more dangerious latin gangs..god help you if its the russians) would do to them. Your average red state American would put a boot so far up their ass that they would remove their nose rings and swaddle their way back to the UK.

The US govt doesnt force its citizens to be victimized by lowlives like these
Sonho Real
15-05-2005, 23:47
I would change "Every other word in between should be unrecognisable to non-chavs." to "Every other word in between should begin with the letter F, and end with a different letter which varies according the the chav's grasp of spelling". :p

White, pink and sky blue tracksuits are quite the in thing for chavettes around these parts. And the definition forgot that the hood of the hoodie must be worn over a baseball cap.
Pure Metal
16-05-2005, 00:39
chavettes round these parts like to have really big curly hair which must cover at least 50% of their face.

and when the chavs wear their mobiles round their necks like some kinda medallion, it makes me want to puke :rolleyes:
Zarbia
16-05-2005, 00:51
Sounds like a bunch of dumbasses.
McLeod03
16-05-2005, 00:52
Yep. Unfortunately, thats the future Britons you're talking about. We're bad enough now, but it's only gonna get worse.
Vegas-Rex
16-05-2005, 00:57
Bring your basic "chav" to the US.

Leave aside what your basic gang banger (bloods, crips, various more dangerious latin gangs..god help you if its the russians) would do to them. Your average red state American would put a boot so far up their ass that they would remove their nose rings and swaddle their way back to the UK.

The US govt doesnt force its citizens to be victimized by lowlives like these

Actually chavs sound a lot like the "gangsta" culture. Britain must not have enough black people.
McLeod03
16-05-2005, 00:58
Actually chavs sound a lot like the "gangsta" culture. Britain must not have enough black people.

No, we do. About half legal, half illegal. Chavs just try to copy them. Sad, sad people that they are.
Chicken pi
16-05-2005, 01:01
Actually chavs sound a lot like the "gangsta" culture. Britain must not have enough black people.

More like the 'wigger' culture. Except less middle class.
Pure Metal
16-05-2005, 01:06
you can blame Thatcher for the chavs imo

and i'm too tired to explain why
McLeod03
16-05-2005, 01:07
you can blame Thatcher for the chavs imo

and i'm too tired to explain why

Because she can be blamed for everything, including Chernobyl, the Dark Ages, the Fall of the Roman Empire, and the extinction of the dinosaurs?
Great Beer and Food
16-05-2005, 01:10
This should clear things up for anyone who doesn't know what a chav is.

It sounds a bit like the character Ali G. trys to portray in his show.
Great Beer and Food
16-05-2005, 01:13
Bring your basic "chav" to the US.

Leave aside what your basic gang banger (bloods, crips, various more dangerious latin gangs..god help you if its the russians) would do to them. Your average red state American would put a boot so far up their ass that they would remove their nose rings and swaddle their way back to the UK.

The US govt doesnt force its citizens to be victimized by lowlives like these

....As he said with a grunt and a forcefull tug on his crotch to display to the entire forum that he was indeed, a manly man and therefor capable of the only true manly emotion, anger, eschewing all of the less manly states of mind such as tolerance and common sense. :D
Mutated Sea Bass
16-05-2005, 01:15
Drive them into the sea.
Neo-Anarchists
16-05-2005, 01:17
Drive them into the sea.
Somebody get us a big car, quick!

Okay, terrible pun. Sorry...
Mutated Sea Bass
16-05-2005, 01:17
....As he said with a grunt and a forcefull tug on his crotch to display to the entire forum that he was indeed, a manly man and therefor capable of the only true manly emotion, anger, eschewing all of the less manly states of mind such as tolerance and common sense. :D

Uh the commonsense would be to stop tolerating this scum, and indeed display some manly anger, or indeed any anger to get rid of their behaviour, anything is better than cowardice.
Chicken pi
16-05-2005, 01:19
Uh the commonsense would be to stop tolerating this scum, and indeed display some manly anger, or indeed any anger to get rid of their behaviour, anything is better than cowardice.

They actually aren't all that bad, in my experience. Of course, the only chavs I ever meet are mildly irritating 13 year olds who yell "Awright, mate!" at you.
Haverton
16-05-2005, 01:22
Yeah, I've heard of these people. Apparently they're just like wiggers, who are some of the most annoying people on earth. So I can't expect chavs to be any better.
Great Beer and Food
16-05-2005, 01:23
Uh the commonsense would be to stop tolerating this scum, and indeed display some manly anger, or indeed any anger to get rid of their behaviour, anything is better than cowardice.

LOL, even though I'm not British, I still know what you're talking about. We have them here in America and I believe they're called something like "Wiggers" or some such. I don't like them much either, but I'm just a live and let live type of person so I just try to ignore them, and thankfully, they usually ignore me as well.
Swimmingpool
16-05-2005, 01:27
How are chavs new? In Ireland they're known as knackers/scumbags and they wear Adidas, etc. tracksuits and they like loitering and robbing bikes. They've always existed.

The US govt doesnt force its citizens to be victimized by lowlives like these
Dude, you know that chavs are not a British government programme, right?

A question for you: I know you are living in India, but are you American? You seem to know a lot about America.

Another remark: why does the US government not tolerate chavs, but tolerates an outrageous number of gun murders annually?
Pure Metal
16-05-2005, 01:28
Because she can be blamed for everything, including Chernobyl, the Dark Ages, the Fall of the Roman Empire, and the extinction of the dinosaurs?
damn straight she can.
McLeod03
16-05-2005, 01:33
damn straight she can.

Nothing today with the downwards spiral society has taken of late, which has nothing to do with the government, just a complete apathy from those who arent social retards, and rise of the moronic low-life scumbag buberry models?
Incenjucarania
16-05-2005, 01:34
....From what I'm seeing... it's just typical suburban white American kids... but in Europe.

Also, there seems to be a lot of wearing of the Sherlock Holmes cap.
Pure Metal
16-05-2005, 01:42
Nothing today with the downwards spiral society has taken of late, which has nothing to do with the government, just a complete apathy from those who arent social retards, and rise of the moronic low-life scumbag buberry models?
i'm saying that stems from Thatcher's creation of an underclass in Generation X. that generation's kids are the chavs we know today.

thatcher tought her generation not to think, not to value education, not to respect others, the 'whats in it for me?' culture. thats been passed down to their chav kids in an even worse way
McLeod03
16-05-2005, 01:46
i'm saying that stems from Thatcher's creation of an underclass in Generation X. that generation's kids are the chavs we know today.

thatcher tought her generation not to think, not to value education, not to respect others, the 'whats in it for me?' culture. thats been passed down to their chav kids in an even worse way

It's just a shame that no one since her has bothered to try and change it huh?
Incenjucarania
16-05-2005, 01:50
Right now, unfortunately, many of the young intellectual community has to deal with the old academic community. It's patently hard to advance when the part of the education system that actually defines culture has been filled with people who keep their tenure by arguing about whether or not Dickinson was a bisexual who liked bondage. I'm not even exaggerating here.
Club House
16-05-2005, 02:39
how do you pronounce chav?
New Granada
16-05-2005, 03:12
how do you pronounce chav?


rhymes with "have"


In any event I think that the police should beat the chavs.
Mutated Sea Bass
16-05-2005, 05:09
Somebody get us a big car, quick!

Okay, terrible pun. Sorry...

It was meant to be aplay on Churchills great speech in WW2.
As in the Chavs being the Nazis.
Actually the Chavs dont sound that dangerous, compared to say the skin heads of the seventys and eighties, who would have easily eaten them for breakfast.
The thing with these Chavs it seems, is that although their well lets face it, they sound pretty dumb, is that they are smart enough to know thanks to weak do gooders and the modern day mantra which encourages councilling and therapy as discipline, they can virtually nearly get away with everything until their an adult.
Mutated Sea Bass
16-05-2005, 05:13
LOL, even though I'm not British, I still know what you're talking about. We have them here in America and I believe they're called something like "Wiggers" or some such. I don't like them much either, but I'm just a live and let live type of person so I just try to ignore them, and thankfully, they usually ignore me as well.

Yes, as long as they dont look at me and keep harrassing or beating up that other person instead, is this a big part of your ignore policy?
Pure Metal
16-05-2005, 10:09
It's just a shame that no one since her has bothered to try and change it huh?
kids learn attitudes and personality primarily from their parents - sure measures could have been taken but its unlikely they would have been, or have been, very effective. you'd have to change the attitude of the Gen X parents and thats not exactly an easy thing to do.

and the problem still stems from Thatcher
Anarchic Conceptions
16-05-2005, 11:10
This should clear things up for anyone who doesn't know what a chav is.Emerging British subculture which is quickly becoming an epidemic.

There is nothing "emerging" about them at all, they've been around as long as I can remember. Except in Manchester we call them scallies or scalls. Chav just seems to me to be a media word which appeared there fairly recently. No idea how long it has actually been used though.

Chavs can be found the length and breadth of the country, hanging around any junk food outlet, off licence or just hanging around the streets, where they pass the time by vandalising property, drinking cheap cider, shouting abuse at passers by and terrorising old people.

That is said like it is a bad thing :p

Appearance: Chavs have a strict dress code. Designer labels are everything, although knocked off/fake items are almost de-rigeur. Typically, the male chav will wear a Nickelson or Schott hooded top, baggy tracksuit trousers, white designer trainers, and a baseball cap by burberry or Nike. The female chav (chavette) will have peroxide blonde hair scrunched so tight into a pony tail with colourful scrunchies that her forehead stretches. She will wear a dark blue tracksuit with white stripes, an enormous puffa jacket, hoop earrings, and white trainers. Female chavs are forbidden from wearing socks, and all chavs must wear as much fake gold jewellery as they can fit on their bodies. Mobiles are an added status symbol, and when equipped, the chav must shout into it in the most anti-social way possible, using at least one expletive and the word "innit" per second. Every other word in between should be unrecognisable to non-chavs.[/quote][/quote]

There are also the Scouser scalls, the girls wear pyjamas (no joke) and have permant tans (well, an orange tint to their skin). Possibly due to Sunny D

Attitude: The chav's attitude depends heavily on the number of mates backing him up. If he's on his own, he'll skulk along anonymously. In numbers, he'll challenge anyone to anything.

Meh, they are annoying, they are rarely that dangerous anyway. Some people just get intimidated easily, the majority of them are just all talk and no action.


Where did this come from btw?
Troon
16-05-2005, 11:14
Up here, they're called Neds.

www.glasgowsurvival.co.uk
Nova Castlemilk
16-05-2005, 12:07
Because she can be blamed for the extinction of the dinosaurs?Well, the tories are now unelectable, so she obviously is responsible for this.
:gundge:
Monkeypimp
16-05-2005, 12:28
Bring your basic "chav" to the US.

Leave aside what your basic gang banger (bloods, crips, various more dangerious latin gangs..god help you if its the russians) would do to them. Your average red state American would put a boot so far up their ass that they would remove their nose rings and swaddle their way back to the UK.

The US govt doesnt force its citizens to be victimized by lowlives like these

Wasn't that a tv show called 'brat camp' ?
LazyHippies
16-05-2005, 12:28
These Chavs sound like amusing people. I wonder if there are chavs in the Netherlands. I wouldnt mind running into some during my upcoming trip, would be quite amusing.
Anarchic Conceptions
16-05-2005, 12:32
These Chavs sound like amusing people. I wonder if there are chavs in the Netherlands. I wouldnt mind running into some during my upcoming trip, would be quite amusing.
Probably, though they won't be Dutch :)
Kellarly
16-05-2005, 12:39
There is nothing "emerging" about them at all, they've been around as long as I can remember. Except in Manchester we call them scallies or scalls. Chav just seems to me to be a media word which appeared there fairly recently. No idea how long it has actually been used though.

The wonderful scallies of manchester, only mateched for patheticness by the scallies of stockport...
Anarchic Conceptions
16-05-2005, 12:43
The wonderful scallies of manchester, only mateched for patheticness by the scallies of stockport...
:D
Kellarly
16-05-2005, 13:36
:D

Hehe, well they are, its like "Owwwwwwwii mate, giv mi ya wallet or i'll f****n kick your ed in!"

ohhhh scared...you're 16 and have the intelligence of a slighty slow amoeba...yeah i'm cacking myself.... :rolleyes:
Everymen
16-05-2005, 13:39
Yep. Unfortunately, thats the future Britons you're talking about. We're bad enough now, but it's only gonna get worse.

Well actually, they're the vast minority. Just shows what American cultural influences do.
Anarchic Conceptions
16-05-2005, 13:46
Hehe, well they are, its like "Owwwwwwwii mate, giv mi ya wallet or i'll f****n kick your ed in!"

ohhhh scared...you're 16 and have the intelligence of a slighty slow amoeba...yeah i'm cacking myself.... :rolleyes:

I quite like the "cunning" ones that ask you for some money so they can get home but "I promise I'll givit ya back when I next see you." They seriously expect me to give someone I have never met before a tenner, so they can go home on the bus :rolleyes:
Kellarly
16-05-2005, 13:54
I quite like the "cunning" ones that ask you for some money so they can get home but "I promise I'll givit ya back when I next see you." They seriously expect me to give someone I have never met before a tenner, so they can go home on the bus :rolleyes:

Yeah i know what you mean.

"eh eh! mate ave u gt 90p? I really need ta git da 192 ome, i promise i'll give it ya back next time ya round ere."

"Sorry mate, don't give money to beggers....."
Findecano Calaelen
16-05-2005, 13:55
but they give me endless entertainment, mocking them is one of my favourite past times.

"Fully shick mate"
Kellarly
16-05-2005, 13:57
but they give me endless entertainment, mocking them is one of my favourite past times.

"Fully shick mate"

LOL :D
Findecano Calaelen
16-05-2005, 14:07
LOL :D
I would have a sad and boring life if these "chavs" as you call them were not around to make me feel better about myself
Carnivorous Lickers
16-05-2005, 14:14
....As he said with a grunt and a forcefull tug on his crotch to display to the entire forum that he was indeed, a manly man and therefor capable of the only true manly emotion, anger, eschewing all of the less manly states of mind such as tolerance and common sense. :D


I have often wondered if that "forceful tug on the crotch" was more a subconscious response to an itch or rash brought on by poor hygiene or some nice sexually transmitted disease.
I always wondered if these people had some common sense at one point, but purged it in an effort to appear cool and uncaring.
And all the cash they piss away on the stupid cel phones & absurd ornamentation for their bodies and vehicles-imagine if they invested it?
We have similar creatures in the US. I feel sorry for them. They are a further item that errodes society.
Findecano Calaelen
16-05-2005, 14:20
....As he said with a grunt and a forcefull tug on his crotch to display to the entire forum that he was indeed, a manly man and therefor capable of the only true manly emotion, anger, eschewing all of the less manly states of mind such as tolerance and common sense. :D
:D Im gonna steal that one
Carnivorous Lickers
16-05-2005, 14:22
Another remark: why does the US government not tolerate chavs, but tolerates an outrageous number of gun murders annually?


We have similar creatures here in the US. I wasnt aware of any US government program that didnt tolerate them. Some of their behavior may not be tolerated- IE: drugs, speeding, shoplifting, etc, but that isnt tolerated if I do it either. Their is nothing targeting them specifically.
You cant have laws that crack down on assholes themselves, only their illegal actions.

Their should be a law against fat silver dog-chain necklaces. Come to think of it, maybe they should keep them-I wont have to get shit on my hands if I ever need to strangle one.
Carnivorous Lickers
16-05-2005, 14:23
rhymes with "have"


In any event I think that the police should beat the chavs.


for sport and practice.
Monkeypimp
16-05-2005, 14:24
I don't think we have chavs. We have people I'd refer to as 'dumbass' kids. If you ask old people, the problem with society is the P adicts and the boy racers (although several seem to think that they're all the same)
Carnivorous Lickers
16-05-2005, 14:33
I don't think we have chavs. We have people I'd refer to as 'dumbass' kids. If you ask old people, the problem with society is the P adicts and the boy racers (although several seem to think that they're all the same)


I cant stand the stupid freaking "fast & furious" cars... Totally inexperienced drivers with loads of cash to waste on stupid wheels and exhaust systems.
Idiot attitudes to match.
Kellarly
16-05-2005, 14:44
I cant stand the stupid freaking "fast & furious" cars... Totally inexperienced drivers with loads of cash to waste on stupid wheels and exhaust systems.
Idiot attitudes to match.

Heh, in our case the cars look like this...

http://chavscum.co.uk/4images/data/media/11/rude_boy_chapman.jpg

with chav next to car too...

http://www.chavscum.co.uk/culture.php

scroll down to cars and see some death on wheels, esp the one with 3 exhausts coming out the boot (trunk).
Calculatious
16-05-2005, 14:48
Well, I'd put a .45 between thier eyes if they decided to fuck with me. I also have enough bullets for a few more. Then I may kick the shit out of thier corps for fun. POS!
Kellarly
16-05-2005, 14:50
Well, I'd put a .45 between thier eyes if they decided to fuck with me. I also have enough bullets for a few more. Then I may kick the shit out of thier corps for fun. POS!

:rolleyes:

Well if you can 'corps' of scallies i might be impressed, but no kicking of the dead please.
Calculatious
16-05-2005, 14:54
Looks like an American influenced fad. The best way to deal with it is to make em pay. Can you carry stun guns in the UK?
QuentinTarantino
16-05-2005, 14:55
Looks like an American influenced fad. The best way to deal with it is to make em pay. Can you carry stun guns in the UK?

Nope you can carry fuck all as a self defence weapon in England
Wegason
16-05-2005, 15:03
I believe in scotland they are called 'neds'

Non Educated Delinquants (not sure i can spell)
QuentinTarantino
16-05-2005, 15:05
I believe in scotland they are called 'neds'

Non Educated Delinquants (not sure i can spell)

Each differant area has its own name for them & the names just seem to appear and don't really mean anything till later when someone tries to decode it.
Kellarly
16-05-2005, 15:11
Nope you can carry fuck all as a self defence weapon in England

Technically you can carry anything apart from a gun, as long as you can prove you had a legitimate reason for carrying with you when attacked. So just make sure you have woodwork class all the time and you'll be fine.
But you can carry rape alarms, pepper spray etc, as long as you only use it properly, which is kinda hard if you getting attacked.
Ainthenar
16-05-2005, 15:16
Another remark: why does the US government not tolerate chavs, but tolerates an outrageous number of gun murders annually?

Cause the US government likes its guns and will tolerate an outrageous number of deaths to keep those guns. after all, the second ammendment in the constituition is the right to bear arms. too bad really.
Carnivorous Lickers
16-05-2005, 15:21
Heh, in our case the cars look like this...

http://chavscum.co.uk/4images/data/media/11/rude_boy_chapman.jpg

with chav next to car too...

http://www.chavscum.co.uk/culture.php

scroll down to cars and see some death on wheels, esp the one with 3 exhausts coming out the boot (trunk).


My first reaction is that I want to turn that car over-with him in it. But I have respect for other people's property, even if I feel they are assholes.

Its a shame they waste so much time, money and effort on these cars. If they put the same effort into education or job training, they could get a good job and feel good about themselves.
I cant tell how many cars I repossessed that had thousands of dollards of "bling" crap added-all the while the punk isnt making the regular monthly payments. Then they call asking where the car was taken-they think they are allowed to remove the after-market junk they've added to the vehicle.
Carnivorous Lickers
16-05-2005, 15:22
Cause the US government likes its guns and will tolerate an outrageous number of deaths to keep those guns. after all, the second ammendment in the constituition is the right to bear arms. too bad really.


this isnt an anti US government or anti gun debate. let not make it one.
Kellarly
16-05-2005, 15:28
My first reaction is that I want to turn that car over-with him in it. But I have respect for other people's property, even if I feel they are assholes.

Its a shame they waste so much time, money and effort on these cars. If they put the same effort into education or job training, they could get a good job and feel good about themselves.
I cant tell how many cars I repossessed that had thousands of dollards of "bling" crap added-all the while the punk isnt making the regular monthly payments. Then they call asking where the car was taken-they think they are allowed to remove the after-market junk they've added to the vehicle.

Precisely, if they could have done it tastefully then maybe it would be ok, but to go out with the soul intention of looking like a prick doesn't help, esp when it costs more than you can afford.
Carnivorous Lickers
16-05-2005, 15:40
Precisely, if they could have done it tastefully then maybe it would be ok, but to go out with the soul intention of looking like a prick doesn't help, esp when it costs more than you can afford.


They're like those birds that are impressed with sparkly,shiny things. Easily impressed by something that glitters. I hate plated jewelry and cel phones and all the flashy trash. But-to each his own. I can just hope my kids arent drawn to it when they get older. I'd like to think they have values and confidence from me and wont feel a need to belong to that pack.
Kellarly
16-05-2005, 15:41
They're like those birds that are impressed with sparkly,shiny things. Easily impressed by something that glitters. I hate plated jewelry and cel phones and all the flashy trash. But-to each his own. I can just hope my kids arent drawn to it when they get older. I'd like to think they have values and confidence from me and wont feel a need to belong to that pack.

Magpies
Popul Vuh
16-05-2005, 16:02
in the postmodern world where nearly all 'legitimate' culture is required to undermine or parody itself i think it's refreshing as well as amusing to see people who can be so kitch without even a hint of irony :) :sniper: , go chavs