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Is anyone else watching this new show on Adult Swim right now? I'd like to hear some people's thoughts.

edit: Damn keyboard and damn fingers mispelling stuff.

Pretty entertaining.

I watched it on DvD before, it's by the same creators of Cowboy Bebop and Wolf's Rain. I've got to say it pretty fucking awesome. :D

It's freaking crazy!

The voices. I recognized the governor guy as the same guy that did Jet Black from Cowboy Bebop, but who were the two fighters? The guy in the red sounded like Spike, and the other one sounded familiar, but I couldn't place him. Anyone know?

Ther other guy was a character from Wolf's Rain I believe, I forgot the characters name though. (I wasn't much of a fan of Wolf's Rain)

Ther other guy was a character from Wolf's Rain I believe, I forgot the characters name though. (I wasn't much of a fan of Wolf's Rain)

Was the voice of Mugen the same guy as the voice of Spike, though?

just saw the show, it is really good, can't wait to see more. :)

Yeah, i liked it alot, what were there names again? Gene and something

Next, up Metropolis! Also pretty cool

Yeah, i liked it alot, what were there names again? Gene and something

Jin was the guy in the blue, Mugen was the guy in the red, and the girl's name was Fuu, I think.

Is anyone else watching this new show on Adult Swim right now? I'd like to hear some people's thoughts.

edit: Damn keyboard and damn fingers mispelling stuff.
im about to see it for the first time tonight i hope its as good as bebop

im about to see it for the first time tonight i hope its as good as bebop

It's the same, but different. And it's weird as hell, but good.

Characters were Mugen: Breakdancer Samurai
Gin: Ronin
Fuu: Bomber boobs

I like the series, but it lacks a MAJOR strength of both Wolf's Rain and Cowboy Bebop, the Music of Yoko Kanno. Only complaint I have with the series is the music, I hate Hip-Hop with a passion, so the opening and ending I start looking for my little skipchapter button. Also, the during episode music is pathetic. Btw, if they cancel'd Fullmetal for this, I'm going to have to go down to williams street and bust some heads, and yes, I can get to Williams Street fairly easily, its a block away from a Con me and some friends go to once a year.

*edit didn't read to thouroughly I just saw "cancel" and "Full Metal Alchemist" in the same sentence and freaked

Characters were Mugen: Breakdancer Samurai
Gin: Ronin
Fuu: Bomber boobs

I like the series, but it lacks a MAJOR strength of both Wolf's Rain and Cowboy Bebop, the Music of Yoko Kanno. Only complaint I have with the series is the music, I hate Hip-Hop with a passion, so the opening and ending I start looking for my little skipchapter button. Also, the during episode music is pathetic. Btw, if they cancel'd Fullmetal for this, I'm going to have to go down to williams street and bust some heads, and yes, I can get to Williams Street fairly easily, its a block away from a Con me and some friends go to once a year.

There were at least two advertisements for Full Metal Alchemist DURING Samurai Champloo.

I personally thought the music was amazing. I thought the modern-style dialogue in the feudal Japanese setting was unique and pretty cool.

absolutely loved it...not liking metropolis too much though...

*edit didn't read to thouroughly I just saw "cancel" and "Full Metal Alchemist" in the same sentence and freaked

It's on Monday-Thursday at 1am EST.

Its hard to like Metropolis, its an "oldie" as in 4 years old. Just call me
semi-nostalgic, that will do.

absolutely loved it...not liking metropolis too much though...

Yeah, this is kind of weak. I'm going to wait for Samurai Champloo to be on again, I think.

i don't think it was feudal japan, they were flashing cameras during the execution...more like early 1900s... after the civil war that rurouni kenshin is based in

*edit didn't read to thouroughly I just saw "cancel" and "Full Metal Alchemist" in the same sentence and freaked
Well we don't seem to be getting new episodes until they get out of the habit of showing movies. Don't get me wrong, Metropolis is a freaking classic, well technically, both of them are, but the first one is complete crap. But come on, Everyone who wanted to see the Inuyasha movie has already done so.

It's on Monday-Thursday at 1am EST.
oh think god...i thought it was cancelled too...

Well we don't seem to be getting new episodes until they get out of the habit of showing movies. Don't get me wrong, Metropolis is a freaking classic, well technically, both of them are, but the first one is complete crap. But come on, Everyone who wanted to see the Inuyasha movie has already done so.

God, I hate Inuyasha.

i don't think it was feudal japan, they were flashing cameras during the execution...more like early 1900s... after the civil war that rurouni kenshin is based in
Um... did you catch it from the beginning?
"This is Fiction
Not an accurate Historial Portrayal
Like we give a shit
shut up and watch the show"

Um... did you catch it from the beginning?
"This is Fiction
Not an accurate Historial Portrayal
Like we give a shit
shut up and watch the show"

Yeah, I liked that. That was pretty funny.

yeah, isn't there already a second Inuyasha movie? i saw the first like last summer

Yep, just watch it and love it. Man, Fuu is one sweet peice, no? Hehe.

Um... did you catch it from the beginning?
"This is Fiction
Not an accurate Historial Portrayal
Like we give a shit
shut up and watch the show"
actually no, i didn't see that, i missed like the first 5 minutes, i started watching at the fire...

Just saw Samuria Champloo...not overly impressed by it, but its alright. Really, too much cussing for my taste. And Metropolis has already been rated as "1 out of 10"...it looks like Astro Boy...

God dammit to hell, they've taken Fullmetal off weekends >.< Welp, there goes me ever seeing another episode without buying the dvds. Lets see, which friend should I ask for the full series?

Yep, just watch it and love it. Man, Fuu is one sweet peice, no? Hehe.

Her running with the fireworks in her blouse was totally gratuitous.

Yes, I hate Inuyasha alot, its gets so boring and repetitive. What are there? Like 120 episodes? They are all pretty much alike with long titles. Thats the thing, the titles. Long titles are always unique due to the wide amount of real-made up adjectives, nouns etc, you can fit in to them. They should cancel Inuyasha, but they can't due to all the horny teenage girls or actual Inuyasha fans (bless them) watching it.

*My apologies to all the horny teenage girls or Inuyasha fans that were offended by this post.



--AND OMFG I CAN"T SEE FULL METAL ALCHEMIST ON WEEKENDS?!!?

Thank god summer vacation is a week away.

Just saw Samuria Champloo...not overly impressed by it, but its alright. Really, too much cussing for my taste. And Metropolis has already been rated as "1 out of 10"...it looks like Astro Boy...
Yeah, I'm trying to figure that out myself... Its from 2001, and yet it has the old 1960s art style... It said in the credits it was based on a comic, maybe thats it. I'm hating the character designs to, but at least none of the major characters look like Mario >.> As long as it doesn't have "Sexy Dancing destroys the world" scene that the original Metropolis had, it deserves at least a 6 out of 10, just for realizing how much the original Metropolis screwed a sound concept all the way to hell. Like Superman 64.

I mostly like Metropolis for it storyline, plus its an oldie. I looooove oldies.

Just saw Samuria Champloo...not overly impressed by it, but its alright. Really, too much cussing for my taste. And Metropolis has already been rated as "1 out of 10"...it looks like Astro Boy...
didn't you see pulp fiction, there can never be to much cussing

Her running with the fireworks in her blouse was totally gratuitous.
you don't know gratuitous until you've seen Eiken
Anyway, I thought it was funny when I finally realized what was causing the bouncing. My first reaction was "Oh shit, another series that can't keep bust size straight"

I mostly like Metropolis for it storyline, plus its an oldie. I looooove oldies.
meh. storyline isnt all that original. its ok, worht watching. animations good. voice acting is pretty crappy like most american translated anime. i wish adult swim would air their shows in subs :(

you don't know gratuitous until you've seen Eiken
Anyway, I thought it was funny when I finally realized what was causing the bouncing. My first reaction was "Oh shit, another series that can't keep bust size straight"

Yeah, thankfully. At least they weren't her actual boobs bouncing around like that. It was amusing. Clearly a jab at a lot of other animes.

Yeah, I'm trying to figure that out myself... Its from 2001, and yet it has the old 1960s art style... It said in the credits it was based on a comic, maybe thats it. I'm hating the character designs to, but at least none of the major characters look like Mario >.> As long as it doesn't have "Sexy Dancing destroys the world" scene that the original Metropolis had, it deserves at least a 6 out of 10, just for realizing how much the original Metropolis screwed a sound concept all the way to hell. Like Superman 64.
yeah the older style is just not cool anymore...

Yes, I hate Inuyasha alot, its gets so boring and repetitive. What are there? Like 120 episodes? They are all pretty much alike with long titles. Thats the thing, the titles. Long titles are always unique due to the wide amount of real-made up adjectives, nouns etc, you can fit in to them. They should cancel Inuyasha, but they can't due to all the horny teenage girls or actual Inuyasha fans (bless them) watching it.

*My apologies to all the horny teenage girls or Inuyasha fans that were offended by this post.



--AND OMFG I CAN"T SEE FULL METAL ALCHEMIST ON WEEKENDS?!!?

Thank god summer vacation is a week away.
Inuyasha used to be a good series, but it suffered from DBZ syndrome, hugely popular series, editors won't allow artist to stop making new issues, they run out of new material, it turns into the same damn thing over and over again, Like Inuyasha has turned into Ranma, without the funny. I have nothing but respect for people like the creator of Naruto, who has topped 130 episodes and kept the series as the best thing around, and the guy who Did YuYu Hakusho, when the editors tried to force him to make more, he flat out refused, not only did he not add on more to the end, he stopped the series right then, did a quick resolution issue and called it a series. Meh, HunterXHunter is better than YuYu Hakusho anyway, and I don't even like it that much, Naruto fits the same niche only its better in every way, plus it has ninjas, and like every child of the 80's I love ninjas.

Blast commercialism! Blast it to hell! It's clashed with so many anime series and destroyed them. It takes all the intrest out of anime series I hate it.

didn't you see pulp fiction, there can never be to much cussing

Too true

I really liked the fighting scenes in Champloo.

yeah the older style is just not cool anymore...
Never was, don't get me wrong, there are some old anime that are awesome, but the artstyle is complete crap. Actually, now that I think about it...all the good oldschool anime was remade at one point or another and totally fixed all the problems with the old artstyle/animation...
Lupin III: Original 1978, REmake 1990s (thats the one you saw on american TV) Remake kept the artstyle, fixed the lousy animation.
Cyborg 009: No idea on original, but it was also Remade in the 1990s, if you thought the Toonami one was bad, you should have seen the original, dear god, it made my eyese hurt. (AStroboy got same treatment btw)
Dirty Pair: Original 1970s, Remake 1990s (Name of Dirty Pair Flash), well, the 1990s was more of a sequel, as it contained different characters with the same codenames, and the original "Dirty Pair" makes an appearance, it also changed the artstyle to be more up to date with the animes of the time.
Cutey Honey: Original 1970s (notably, first Magical Girl series ever) 2 remakes, Flash and RE Cutey Honey (RE Cutey Honey, though the shortest, was the best btw) I think both remakes were 1990s, noteworthily, they both also changed the artstyle and certain plot elements. Oh, there's also a Live Action Movie, so if you have an hour and a half to kill, and some friends willing to heckle with you, I suggest you download it)

Edit: Also, the remakes changed certain bizarre social comments that would
A) make no sense to a 1990s audience
b) Get they so freaking sued >.< (The Astroboy manga has a disclaimer, it has a lot of 1960's stereotypes, they were BAD, none of the insulting stuff was even directed at me and it burned >.<)

If only they took away the bulbous noses and the girly ass eyelashes from the male characters (and some females as well) I wouldn't cringe at the art as much.

If only they took away the bulbous noses and the girly ass eyelashes form the male characters (and some females as well) I wouldn't cringe at the art as much.

Everyone looks like a kid to me.

damnit, i spent my first night back home at a bonfire (a chair was thrown into it.) and not in my room, watching adult swim and bein all up on the nationstates like i should have been. how could i miss it? damn.
ah well. i'll catch the rerun, whenever this godforsaken movie is over.

damnit, i spent my first night back home at a bonfire (a chair was thrown into it.) and not in my room, watching adult swim and bein all up on the nationstates like i should have been. how could i miss it? damn.
ah well. i'll catch the rerun, whenever this godforsaken movie is over.

Soon, we hope. Soon.

oh thank god it's over. nice explosions tho.

First of all, I hate a whole lot of you disparaging the 1927 Fritz Lang film. I'm going to console myself by insisting that you all saw a bad restoration or merely just don't know any better. Harrumph. Now, I'll put down this film snob stick...


and now that no one is reading this anymore and typing up how much I suck/Metropolis sucks/my mother sucks I'm going to ask a question about Wolf's Rain, since I'm in California-the second to last place to experience the day and Samurai Whatsit isn't on yet-

Are they always wolves and only shown as humans as a narrative device? If thats the case I'm very impressed. If not, than at least it had a good giant walrus sequence and you can't go wrong with a good giant walrus sequence...

Hey, here's Samurai Whatsit....

First of all, I hate a whole lot of you disparaging the 1927 Fritz Lang film. I'm going to console myself by insisting that you all saw a bad restoration or merely just don't know any better. Harrumph. Now, I'll put down this film snob stick...

It was an anime remake, I suppose. 2001. Certainly not a 1927 Fritz Lang movie.

It was an anime remake, I suppose. 2001. Certainly not a 1927 Fritz Lang movie.
I caught that (though ironically* the anime version seems to have come out around the same time as the latest and truest restoration of the Lang film), but there where some casting aspersions (nope, don't care if I spelled that right) on 'the original.'

This Shampaloo or whatever is kind of interesting-ooh, pet flying squirrel. Not sure how I feel about that...It's kinda got a Heavy Metal feel to it. The scratch cuts between action sequences actually demonstrates a misunderstanding of cutting/mixing, but whatever**. The music actually still seems to tap the same kind of 'tiki room' roots (I'm having a hard time remembering words tonight for some reason, so just go with it) with just a little more 'beat' to it. So far I can understand it-a big difference between this and most anime I run across...

It's got a lot of 'camera effects' to make it appear more real, which is nice for me since I have written papers on that practice...

I wonder at the translation-one character made a reference to Styx (the river, not the band-Laaaaday...anyway) and the Samurai saying 'May the Saints forgive you...' Could be in there, I don't know.

It's over-that seemed fast. I guess thats a good sign...

*EDIT-I guess that's not really ironic, but whatever....

**EDIT THE SECOND: See edit in #56

I caught that (though ironically* the anime version seems to have come out around the same time as the latest and truest restoration of the Lang film), but there where some casting aspersions (nope, don't care if I spelled that right) on 'the original.'

This Shampaloo or whatever is kind of interesting-ooh, pet flying squirrel. Not sure how I feel about that...It's kinda got a Heavy Metal feel to it. The scratch cuts between action sequences actually demonstrates a misunderstanding of cutting/mixing, but whatever. The music actually still seems to tap the same kind of 'tiki room' roots (I'm having a hard time remembering words tonight for some reason, so just go with it) with just a little more 'beat' to it. So far I can understand it-a big difference between this and most anime I run across...

It's got a lot of 'camera effects' to make it appear more real, which is nice for me since I have written papers on that practice...

I wonder at the translation-one character made a reference to Styx (the river, not the band-Laaaaday...anyway) and the Samurai saying 'May the Saints forgive you...' Could be in there, I don't know.

It's over-that seemed fast. I guess thats a good sign...

*EDIT-I guess that's not really ironic, but whatever....

You and all your film-making knowledge bananary. Did you like it? You went over the technical aspects pretty thoroughly, but you didn't really give an opinion.

You and all your film-making knowledge bananary. Did you like it? You went over the technical aspects pretty thoroughly, but you didn't really give an opinion.
I'll probably watch it again. It has some things that are compelling about it and left some questions that I want answered (though, very often, I find that anime lets me down in that last part a whole lot). The dynamic between the ronin and the samurai I don't like so much. The noble badass and the scoundrel badass with the woman tieing them together. If she turns out to be royality and they start kickin' it with a fat guy and his goofy little buddy they'll have The Classic Anime Quintet (Votron, G-Force, the 3rd Robotech, Speed Racer, etc.) Not to say that they can't use that dynamic, it's just what they do with it. We'll see.

It's alright. I'm going to keep watching for a while. I have a hard time getting into anime. As I'm watching this Metropolis I'm begining to understand why. I seem to like everything they hate about this movie. I'm really taken in. I thing the character design is really well suited for the narrative and the overall style-that opening sequence (while a little troubled by the dubbing and subtitles and not translating the bigass paragraph at the begining) was pretty breath-taking. I'm really diggin' this.

Sweet crap, it just hit me what Samurai Champloo reminds me of! Aeon Flux...ah man...that was buggin' the hell out of me. It's like that Aeon Flux/Reign style art without the homo-eroticism...

Such a weight lifted off...

EDIT: I don't to keep bumping this. Watching it again I have to say I was too harsh on the scene 'mixing.' Image-wise they do a pretty faithful job and actually made something that otherwise would have been unremarkable into an interesting bit of exposition. The score should have come from the narrative sound and not 'scratching,' but thats an aesthetic choice. (Maybe they felt that they needed an additional signifier.)

I've watched Samurai Champloo 1-5 thus far...I'm waiting to get 6 before I watch the rest of the series. I'm watching the Japanese version, so I cannot comment on the English vocal acting (is it good? The preview I saw looked quite well done).

I must admit; despite the first episode, which was quite good, the series lacks the punch of Cowboy Bebop. Its characters are solid, their interaction is good, but something just isn't there. Perhaps the one person said it best, the music is missing.

Samurai Champloo sidestepped Yoko Kanno, and went for a hip-hop/rap theme. While I am by no means a FAN of hip-hop, I can certainly appreciate it as occasionally good music. However, that theme is left almost entirely to the opening and a few scratches during scene changes.

It TEASES you with the hip-hop, but for some reason doesn't go FAR ENOUGH. I would rather have more hip-hop or rap in this show, not less. Because its that attitude, that style, that culture, that matches so well with the main character, and thus complete's the show's personality.

Other wise the music feels more like Ruroni Kenshin or a Zatoichi movie (for those who know the goodness that is Zatoichi). The plot themes as well, seem more appropriate for a RK episode or a Zatoichi movie. They just don't feel like a proper successor to Cowboy Bebop.

The stories they do, the scenes that they play out, are quality Edo-era stories that feel good to watch. The dialogue is good, sometimes hilarous, the atmosphere that the background art creates is top-notch.

However, its greatest strength is the connection to the music; which isn't complete, it is fractured, divided between the gutsy hip-hop and the traditional Edo-Japan atmospherics. So the show, like the music, feels lacking. It could still turn around, but so far, it has not lived up to its potential.

That being said, its still a VERY good show. It simply does not (yet) rise up to the level of Cowboy Bebop. I'd give it an A/A-.

I should add that some of the comments (but not all) that I thought where directed at Metropolis seems like they where more likely directed at Perfect Hair Forever which I can understand how that can draw fire.

yeah the older style is just not cool anymore...
I know - I'm a *huge* Gundam fan, and I basically can't stand the art style of the original MS Gundam. Otherwise, it's freakin genius. But geez, that was made like what, 26 yrs ago? I can basically stand anything past the late 80s anime quality, but even so, some recent animes w/high-quality animation (mostly stuff of Fox & WB) are pretty crappy plot-wise.

I know - I'm a *huge* Gundam fan, and I basically can't stand the art style of the original MS Gundam. Otherwise, it's freakin genius. But geez, that was made like what, 26 yrs ago? I can basically stand anything past the late 80s anime quality, but even so, some recent animes w/high-quality animation (mostly stuff of Fox & WB) are pretty crappy plot-wise.
In regards to the style use in Metropolis, though, I think people are missing the narrative function of drawing the characters in the Astro Boy motif.

If the chatterboxes at imdb.com are to be believed, the comic was inspired initially from the author seeing a poster for the Lang Metropolis. Throughout the movie there was a definate 'retro-future' asthetic-it was an old tale told new. The robot traffic director sat in a crows nest in the middle of the intersection like the 1920s, blimps, the jazz score, that giant cannon that they fired was operated by clockwork mechanisms...by drawing the characters in the Astro Boy style it is a further signifier of something 'remembered' and yet 'future.' It was consistant with the overall vision of the peice and fit into the narrative, giving the feel of the english and european comics that inspired orignal anime such as Astro Boy. I think it was a great artistic choice.

It's pretty awesome, yeah.

Despite Samurai Champloo's disclaimer of, "This is not historically accurate, so just shut up and watch the show", there seem to be several prominent indications of time period in some of the later time periods - there is mention of the persecution of the Christians and Ainu (Episodes 13, 16-17, respectively) that seems to indicate that the time setting is 17/18th century Japan* (and such a setting would make episode 23 [*Spoiler*Mugen + Baseball!*Spoiler*] even more ridiculous -- given the disclaimer, I don't think that Watanabe minded the fact that neither America [as a sovereign nation] nor Baseball existed at the given time period).

*This is merely conjecture - there is no need to flame me, here.

Edit: Perhaps I'm overanalyzing a show that emphasizes the characters and [eventual] storyline more than historical accuracy.

It's one of the best serieseseseses "evah".

I enjoyed every single episode of it. Great soundtrack - especially the not-hip-hop-parts, but eben the Rap is good - great animation, great story.

I lub it.

It's one of the best serieseseseses "evah".

I enjoyed every single episode of it. Great soundtrack - especially the not-hip-hop-parts, but eben the Rap is good - great animation, great story.

I lub it.

I especially enjoyed the traditional Japanese music featured in Episodes 20-21 (which most of you probably won't see for quite a while).

That was great, yes.

I especially liked the "Beatnik"-sitar-remix-sequence in the typical middle episode that explains what has happened so far: 12 (The Disorder Diaries).

Normally those episodes are boring, but even that one was somehow cool.

Was the voice of Mugen the same guy as the voice of Spike, though?

I'm watching the fansubs right now (don't have adult swim and japanese subs are usually better anyway...) and the guy who did Mugen also did Zoro from One Piece (A TRAVESTY WHAT 4KIDS DID TO ONE PIECE ON FOX BOX! DON'T WATCH IT ON FOX! GET THE FANSUBS!)

It sounds, from what people are saying, that I should get the Japanese langauge version.