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Benedict XVI: Savior of Europe

Commando7
14-05-2005, 17:50
Spain has a noble history. Whether its defending Europe from the Turks at Lepanto, driving the Muslim occupiers out, its mighty overseas colonies, its discovery of the Americas, ect., one can see Spain has a glorious history.

But the Spain of today is different. It is giving into abomination and marrying gays, it is aborting children, it is doing useless embryonic stem-cell research, ect. It has become one of the most liberal countries in Europe. What would great Spaniards like Queen Isabella, King Ferdinand, and King Philip II have to say about the current state of Spain? I shudder to think about it.

However, there is hope for Spain, and the rest of western Europe as well. Benedict XVI! As Grand Inquisitor for Rome he had condemned the immorality growing in Europe, and I have high hopes that as Roman Pontiff he will continue the war against secular liberalism. Maybe Spain will even realize how much they have disgraced themselves, and will come back to the light side. It is unlikely, but I have confidence in His Holiness Benedict XVI.
New Dobbs Town
14-05-2005, 17:51
Wotta load o' flamebait.
Potaria
14-05-2005, 17:53
Wotta load o' flamebait.

Yep. And, it's his SEVENTH incarnation!

Hopefully, he'll die for good after #9 is deleted.
Saipea
14-05-2005, 17:53
I spy with my little eye...
A troll or a complete moron.
Potaria
14-05-2005, 17:53
I spy with my little eye...
A troll or a complete moron.

Both, actually.
New Dobbs Town
14-05-2005, 17:55
He makes trolls look good.
Nonconformitism
14-05-2005, 17:55
But the Spain of today is different. It is giving into abomination and marrying gays, it is aborting children, it is doing useless embryonic stem-cell research, ect. It has become one of the most liberal countries in Europe. What would great Spaniards like Queen Isabella, King Ferdinand, and King Philip II have to say about the current state of Spain? I shudder to think about it.


sounds like spain kicks ass, and as for stem-cell research being useless that is a complete lie and you know it.
Camewot
14-05-2005, 17:56
Liberalism is the best thing that could ever happen to modern-Europe. In most countrys, the thaught that voting conservative was right gave the conservatives a long-time ruling, destroying most countrys economicly. And especially now, when the econmic crisis is at his semi-height, I hope that Benedictus XVI will just shut up and let the liberals try and save Europe.
San haiti
14-05-2005, 17:57
how did commando6 get deleted? I only ask beacause i could do with a laugh.
Pyrostan
14-05-2005, 17:57
Don't bother to argue with him. If we ignore the trolls, they go off to more verdant pastures (I.E. more stupid boards)
New Dobbs Town
14-05-2005, 17:57
...that is a complete lie and you know it.

Of course the troll knows it.

Don't feed the troll!

(and this coming from a puppet of Dobbs Town. Go figure.)
Saipea
14-05-2005, 17:58
Most of Europe is that progressive... Though France, Russia, and (on occasion) Germany can be pretty pissy about free speech.

Lucky for us, this pope will croak pretty soon.
Kervoskia
14-05-2005, 17:58
I know you violated your ban.
Camewot
14-05-2005, 18:00
Liberalism is the best thing that could ever happen to modern-Europe. In most countrys, the thaught that voting conservative was right gave the conservatives a long-time ruling, destroying most countrys economicly. And especially now, when the econmic crisis is at his semi-height, I hope that Benedictus XVI will just shut up and let the liberals try and save Europe.

I'm sorry, that involves socialist partys to.
Sanctaphrax
14-05-2005, 18:00
Isabella and Ferdinand? Ah, you're one of the people who praises the inquisition. In that case, being a Jew, I have nothing I want to or will say to you.
Commando7
14-05-2005, 18:02
sounds like spain kicks ass, and as for stem-cell research being useless that is a complete lie and you know it.

I said EMBRYONIC stem-cell research, which has saved no one.
Saipea
14-05-2005, 18:05
The Inquisition (Let's begin)
The Inquisition (Look out sin)
We have a mission to convert the Jews (Jew, Jew, Jew, Jew, Jew, Jew, Jew)
We're gonna teach them wrong from right.
We're gonna help them see the light
and make an offer that they can't refuse. (That those Jews just can't refuse) Confess, don't be boring. Say yes, don't be dull.
A fact you're ignoring:
It's better to lose your skull cap than your skull (or your govalt!)
The Inquisition (what a show)
The Inquistion (here we go)
We know you're wishin' that we'd go away.
But the Inquisition's here and it's here to stay!

"I was sitting in a temple. I was minding my own business.
I was listening to a lovely Hebrew mass.
Then these Papus persons plungered and they throw me in a dungeon and they shove a red hot poker up my ass.
Is that considerate? Is that polite?
And not a tube of Preperation H in sight!"

"I'm sittin' flickin' chickens and I'm lookin' throught the pickins' and suddenly thes goyim pull down valls.
I didn't even know them and they grabbed my by the stoghum and started playing ping pong with my balls!
Ooh, the agony! Ooh, the shame!
To make my privates public for a game?"

The Inquisition (what a show)
The Inquisition (here we go)
We know you're wishin' that we'd go away.
But the Inquisition's here and it's here to-
"Hey Toquemada, walk this way."
"I just got back from the Auto-de-fe."
"Auto-de-fe? What's an Auto-de-fe?"
"It's what you oughtn't to do but you do anyway."
Will you convert? "No, no, no, no."
Will you confess? "No, no, no, no."
Will you revert? "No, no, no, no."
Will you say yes? "No, no, no, no!"
Now I asked in a nice way, I said, "Pretty please."
I bent their ears, now I'll work on their knees!
"Hey Toquemada, walk this way. We got a little game that you might wanna play, so pull that handle, try you're luck."
"Who knows, Toq, you might win a buck!"

"How we doin', any converts today?"
"Not a one, nay, nay, nay."
"We flattened their fingers, we branded their buns!
Nothing is working! Send in the nuns!"

The Inquisition, what a show.
The Inquisition, here we go.
We know you're wishin' that we'd go away!
So all you Muslims and you Jews
We got big news for all of yous:
You'd better change your point of views TODAY!
'Cause the Inquisition's here and it's here to stay!

Heh.
Potaria
14-05-2005, 18:05
I said EMBRYONIC stem-cell research, which has saved no one.

Pffff...
Saipea
14-05-2005, 18:06
I said EMBRYONIC stem-cell research, which has saved no one.

Embryos aren't people. And even if they were, so what? You Catholics have too many kids anyways.
New Dobbs Town
14-05-2005, 18:07
Are we there yet?
Potaria
14-05-2005, 18:07
You Catholics have too many kids anyways.

Yeah, seriously. Four kids is a lot, but six? NINE, even? I had three Catholic friends, one having five other siblings, another having four others, and one had EIGHT others.
Perezuela
14-05-2005, 18:10
Yeah, seriously. Four kids is a lot, but six? NINE, even? I had three Catholic friends, one having five other siblings, another having four others, and one had EIGHT others.
I have three sisters and two brothers, I'm not Catholic though :D
Commando7
14-05-2005, 18:11
Embyos aren't people. And even if they were, so what? You Catholics have too many kids anyways.

Another reason I don't like liberalism. It is way too similar to nazism. Both kill innocents and dismiss it like you just did.
Saipea
14-05-2005, 18:13
I have three sisters and two brothers, I'm not Catholic though :D

Well yell at your parents. It shows great disrespect for your fellow man to be so selfish by having so many children. Resources, education, livings space, etc. It shows a disdain for humanity. Overpopulation is at the core of all problems.
Robert E Lee II
14-05-2005, 18:13
sounds like spain kicks ass, and as for stem-cell research being useless that is a complete lie and you know it.

Actually you're completely wrong. Embrionic Stem-Cell reaserch has never cured even one disease. The kind that does not require murdering people has cured thousands. Recently attended a talk by a PhD medical science teacher on the subject.
Ojooba
14-05-2005, 18:13
This guy is trolling. I wonder if catholicism is responsible for world overpopulation.

:sniper:
:mp5:
:gundge:
New Dobbs Town
14-05-2005, 18:15
Another reason I don't like liberalism. It is way too similar to nazism. Both kill innocents and dismiss it like you just did.

I had to stop typing in order to get out a good solid belly-laugh. This is so insane.

Whose puppet is Commando, anyway? Anybody know? 'Cause this is about as real as Disneyland.

Heh, heh. Any more pearls of 'Wisdom' for us today, number 7? Before you get turfed again, anyway?
Robert E Lee II
14-05-2005, 18:15
Another reason I don't like liberalism. It is way too similar to nazism. Both kill innocents and dismiss it like you just did.

I completely agree. Both also agree that the State should be all powerful.

By the way, I am a Conservative Catholic and one of five, and most of the Conservative Catholic families I know have at least that many kids.
Perezuela
14-05-2005, 18:15
Well yell at your parents. It shows great disrespect for your fellow man to be so selfish by having so many children. Resources, education, livings space, etc. It shows a disdain for humanity. Overpopulation is at the core of all problems.
Meh, if my parents were afraid of stuff like that then I might've not been born so I won't say anything.
Perezuela
14-05-2005, 18:16
Actually you're completely wrong. Embrionic Stem-Cell reaserch has never cured even one disease. The kind that does not require murdering people has cured thousands. Recently attended a talk by a PhD medical science teacher on the subject.
Keyword is 'Research'.
Saipea
14-05-2005, 18:16
Another reason I don't like liberalism. It is way too similar to nazism. Both kill innocents and dismiss it like you just did.

I'm a nihilist. I don't represent liberals.
There's no difference between chicken and human embryos or children in the grand scheme of things. Besides, the little sperm and egg omelets go to heaven sooner.

And Nazism, if you knew ANYTHING, is actually very much akin to the likes of you: social conservative, politically intrusive, authoritarian, etc.
Robert E Lee II
14-05-2005, 18:16
I had to stop typing in order to get out a good solid belly-laugh. This is so insane.

Whose puppet is Commando, anyway? Anybody know? 'Cause this is about as real as Disneyland.

Heh, heh. Any more pearls of 'Wisdom' for us today, number 7? Before you get turfed again, anyway?

What a jerk. Oh well. They tend to get mad when they know they're wrong.
Sanctaphrax
14-05-2005, 18:17
Meh, if my parents were afraid of stuff like that then I might've not been born so I won't say anything.
The key point that you're missing is, you're not a waste of good resources :p
Robert E Lee II
14-05-2005, 18:18
Keyword is 'Research'.
What the hell are you talking about? :confused:
Perezuela
14-05-2005, 18:18
I'm a nihilist. I don't represent liberals.
There's no difference between chicken and human embryos or children in the grand scheme of things. Besides, the little sperm and egg omelets go to heaven sooner.

And Nazism, if you knew ANYTHING, is actually very much akin to the likes of you: social conservative, politically intrusive, authoritarian, etc.
Hitler was a Right-Leaning Authoritarian. He wasn't extreme right at all.
Commando7
14-05-2005, 18:18
I completely agree. Both also agree that the State should be all powerful.

By the way, I am a Conservative Catholic and one of five, and most of the Conservative Catholic families I know have at least that many kids.

Nice to meet you. I'm a conservative Catholic as well, though I am one of 3.
Saipea
14-05-2005, 18:19
This guy is trolling. I wonder if catholicism is responsible for world overpopulation.

1 billion brainwashed people? I'd say so.
They also can be blamed for the AIDS epidemic in Africa. Way to teach safe sex!
Camewot
14-05-2005, 18:19
[ignore this]

WATCH OUT, THE TROLLS WILL BE BREEDING BEFORE YOU KNOW IT! [/ignore this]
Robert E Lee II
14-05-2005, 18:19
I'm a nihilist. I don't represent liberals.
There's no difference between chicken and human embryos or children in the grand scheme of things. Besides, the little sperm and egg omelets go to heaven sooner.

And Nazism, if you knew ANYTHING, is actually very much akin to the likes of you: social conservative, politically intrusive, authoritarian, etc.
I am a convert from Nihilism.
Hope you realize how unreasonable it is. Oh and by the way, you are not truly Nihilist. If you were you would be whimpering in a corner.
Perezuela
14-05-2005, 18:20
What the hell are you talking about? :confused:
Well some people are so opposed to it that the research to get it done and cure diseases never gets done. How are scientists supposed to cure diseases if they're constantly surrounded by controversy and heavy opposition?
Commando7
14-05-2005, 18:20
1 billion brainwashed people? I'd say so.
They also can be blamed for the AIDS epidemic in Africa. Way to teach safe sex!

You moron. Condems are to blame for the AIDS problem worldwide. After contraception became available, STDs skyrocketed. The only surefire way to prevent AIDS is to abstain, which the Catholic Church is teaching. Africa will be saved it it follows the Holy See's advice.
Robert E Lee II
14-05-2005, 18:21
1 billion brainwashed people? I'd say so.
They also can be blamed for the AIDS epidemic in Africa. Way to teach safe sex!
SIN can be blamed for AIDS. We just refuse to teach people to sin in order to sin "safely"
The Black Forrest
14-05-2005, 18:21
Are we there yet?

Just a little bit further!
Saipea
14-05-2005, 18:22
Meh, if my parents were afraid of stuff like that then I might've not been born so I won't say anything.

You live, you die. You're just as good not existing; you won't be remembered in a century anyways.

No hard feelings. Just don't be selfish like your parents. :p
Omnibenevolent Discord
14-05-2005, 18:22
By the way, I am a Conservative Catholic and one of five, and most of the Conservative Catholic families I know have at least that many kids.
I wish Catholics would practice what they preace, abstinence only people, ABSTINENCE ONLY!
Camewot
14-05-2005, 18:22
You moron. Condems are to blame for the AIDS problem worldwide. After contraception became available, STDs skyrocketed. The only surefire way to prevent AIDS is to abstain, which the Catholic Church is teaching. Africa will be saved it it follows the Holy See's advice.


:o
I'm shocked, deeply shocked. I thought you could see the problems, but now you have said this I am officially leaving this thread.
Perezuela
14-05-2005, 18:23
You moron. Condems are to blame for the AIDS problem worldwide. After contraception became available, STDs skyrocketed. The only surefire way to prevent AIDS is to abstain, which the Catholic Church is teaching. Africa will be saved it it follows the Holy See's advice.
No reason to call him/her a moron and it's spelt 'condom'.
Robert E Lee II
14-05-2005, 18:23
Well some people are so opposed to it that the research to get it done and cure diseases never gets done. How are scientists supposed to cure diseases if they're constantly surrounded by controversy and heavy opposition?

Actually in some places it is not heavily opposed. oh and even if it was able to be useful it wold still be wrong. It murders unjustly. Those people are given human souls at conception.
The Black Forrest
14-05-2005, 18:23
Another reason I don't like liberalism. It is way too similar to nazism. Both kill innocents and dismiss it like you just did.

And who said ignorance doesn't go with Religion.....
Perezuela
14-05-2005, 18:24
You live, you die. You're just as good not existing; you won't be remembered in a century anyways.

No hard feelings. Just don't be selfish like your parents. :p
I guess my parents just knew that they could support a big family? My aim is 2 kids.
Andaluciae
14-05-2005, 18:24
What would great Spaniards like Queen Isabella, King Ferdinand, and King Philip II have to say about the current state of Spain?
Maya-he, Maya-hu, Maya-ha, Maya-haha, Maya-he, Maya-hu, Maya-ha, Maya-haha, Maya-he, Maya-hu, Maya-ha, Maya-haha, Hallo, Shalut, Siguelo und Haiduk! Sidayro You vera man damechta! Fettuchela!

NumaNuma aye yay!
NumaNuma aye yay!
NumaNuma aye yay!
NumaNuma aye yay!
Robert E Lee II
14-05-2005, 18:25
And who said ignorance doesn't go with Religion.....
Yeah sling mud. Perhaps it will make you secure in your ridiculous beliefs.
The Black Forrest
14-05-2005, 18:25
What the hell are you talking about? :confused:

Perezuela: Don't confuse him with knowledge! ;)
Camewot
14-05-2005, 18:25
Yeah sling mud. Perhaps it will make you secure in your ridiculous beliefs.

Maybe ignoring world problems will make YOU secure in YOUR ridicolous beliefs?

I decided not to quit this topic, allot of conservative people here don't see the world its real way.
Saipea
14-05-2005, 18:26
I am a convert from Nihilism.
Hope you realize how unreasonable it is. Oh and by the way, you are not truly Nihilist. If you were you would be whimpering in a corner.

Oh, I was... Now I'm only a nihilist on bad days. I'm more of an existentialist if you want to play the lable game.

You "converted" from nihilism? To Christianity? Wow. Someone got some bum genetics. Lose a lot of bets? Gullible? Non critical thinker? Communications major?

I'm sorry nothingness was too much to face for you...
But that's no excuse to impress upon others your ignorance and failings.

Then again, I sincerely doubt you are a "convert" from nihilism. You probably were always some nutjob who paraded around with screen names like "Robert E. Lee".
Omnibenevolent Discord
14-05-2005, 18:26
And who said ignorance doesn't go with Religion.....
Anyone who hasn't read the bible and realized that the desire for enlightenment is what caused Adam and Eve to be cast from the Garden of Eden....
Robert E Lee II
14-05-2005, 18:26
Maya-he, Maya-hu, Maya-ha, Maya-haha, Maya-he, Maya-hu, Maya-ha, Maya-haha, Maya-he, Maya-hu, Maya-ha, Maya-haha, Hallo, Shalut, Siguelo und Haiduk! Sidayro You vera man damechta! Fettuchela!

NumaNuma aye yay!
NumaNuma aye yay!
NumaNuma aye yay!
NumaNuma aye yay!

I love that song! It just recently hit the US, but it is now really popular. Does the group have any other good songs?
The Philosophes
14-05-2005, 18:26
Liberalism is the best thing that could ever happen to modern-Europe. In most countrys, the thaught that voting conservative was right gave the conservatives a long-time ruling, destroying most countrys economicly. And especially now, when the econmic crisis is at his semi-height, I hope that Benedictus XVI will just shut up and let the liberals try and save Europe.

Please don't feed the troll. It makes him angry and prone to large bouts of writing in caps-lock with numerous exclamation points and multiple postings, like this:

AAARRRGGGHGHGHH!!!!!111oneone!!111!1one! STUPID LIBERAL COMMIE!!! GO BACK TO THE LIBERAL HOLE YOU CAME FROM, BECAUSE.... UM.... YOU'RE WRONG AND I'M RIGHT!11!!one!1

ahem. excuse me.
The Black Forrest
14-05-2005, 18:26
Yeah sling mud. Perhaps it will make you secure in your ridiculous beliefs.

Pssst. You just proved my point.
Ojooba
14-05-2005, 18:26
Catholicism a bastardization of the original Christianity. SEVEN sacrements? For the love of Capitalism. Long ago has your church diverged from the teachings of Christ.

You people have turned it into an over-embellished circus. The Pope does not speak to God on personal terms, if a god even exists.
Saipea
14-05-2005, 18:29
Anyone who hasn't read the bible and realized that the desire for enlightenment is what caused Adam and Eve to be cast from the Garden of Eden....

God encourages ignorance? Sounds like a shitty god. I'll stick with worshipping Athena. She's more reliable and plausible than that backwards hypocrite Yahweh.
Perezuela
14-05-2005, 18:30
Actually in some places it is not heavily opposed. oh and even if it was able to be useful it wold still be wrong. It murders unjustly. Those people are given human souls at conception.
Depends on your religion. In Islam, there's a difference between potential life and actual life. An embryo is considered potential life but not actual life because a soul has not been planted yet. Destroying embryos is not called and cannot be called abortion. We disagree with the Catholic position that this is "equivalent to infanticide".

More info on Islam's standpoint regarding embryonic stem cell research: http://www.islam101.com/science/stemCells.htm
Kervoskia
14-05-2005, 18:30
Everyone knows that the Pope doesn't run the church, the Illuminati do, but you didn't here it from me.
The Black Forrest
14-05-2005, 18:31
Everyone knows that the Pope doesn't run the church, the Illuminati do, but you didn't here it from me.

I have to report you now.

You know you aren't supposed to talk about such things!
Robert E Lee II
14-05-2005, 18:32
Oh, I was... Now I'm only a nihilist on bad days. I'm more of an existentialist if you want to play the lable game.

You "converted" from nihilism? To Christianity? Wow. Someone got some bum genetics. Lose a lot of bets? Gullible? Non critical thinker? Communications major?

I'm sorry nothingness was too much to face for you...
But that's no excuse to impress upon others your ignorance and failings.

Then again, I sincerely doubt you are a "convert" from nihilism. You probably were always some nutjob who paraded around with screen names like "Robert E. Lee".

Well if you wish to insult me and call me a liar, fine. I have never actually heard people like you argue a point. You sort of throw half formed stereotypes, then avoid the point. Read Philosophy. Read reason. I recomend Descartes or Pascal, but most (except for Hegel & co.) will help you.

Yes I was a Nihilist at one point, yes I am a Catholic now. Why would I lie?

This thread has devolved from its purpose into a tirade of hollow Liberal insults. Good bye...
and....
BENEDICT XVI FOREVER!!
Andaluciae
14-05-2005, 18:32
I have to report you now.

You know you aren't supposed to talk about such things!
I've already got it covered. Fear not!
Sanctaphrax
14-05-2005, 18:32
I love that song! It just recently hit the US, but it is now really popular. Does the group have any other good songs?
Ok, now I'm willing to forgive you for all your other views.... but this is well overboard! I'm sorry, but you crossed the line, in fact, you're a mile over the line and still going! :D
Saipea
14-05-2005, 18:33
Depends on your religion. In Islam, there's a difference between potential life and actual life. An embryo is considered potential life but not actual life because a soul has not been planted yet. Destroying embryos is not called and cannot be called abortion. We disagree with the Catholic position that this is "equivalent to infanticide".

More info on Islam's standpoint regarding embryonic stem cell research: http://www.islam101.com/science/stemCells.htm

In the absense of morals, there is no difference between killing a murderer, using contraception, spilling your seed, having a period, aborting something unable to sustain itself, dissecting an embryo, or infanticide.
Kervoskia
14-05-2005, 18:34
I have to report you now.

You know you aren't supposed to talk about such things!
It slipped out! Nooooooooooooo, not the sodomy chamber! No!!!!!!!!
You haven't heard the last of me!
Zyxibule
14-05-2005, 18:34
As a christian I find it distressing at the amount of judgement you, commando, are pouring out on others. jesus taught us not to judge others, or to pretend that we are without sin ourselves. AIDS as you put it is NOT due to the sin of a few people, eg. the poor mothers who get raped and get AIDS are not sinning, it's origional sin from the fall of man if that's what u beleive.

You seem to have this weird idea that God is vengeful and will smite those who do not turn to him...this isn't what I get from reading the Bible. Jesus went to those who no-one wanted and showed them a better way - the bible says to 'Gently instruct', not to flame others and shout damnation. :(

God is merciful and forgives sinners - he loves everyone, not just those who 'do good' - doing good doesn't get u to heaven, belief in Jesus dying for your sins does.

I think liberalism has problems too, but i wont approach it in a way that is disrespectful of others.
Guffingford
14-05-2005, 18:34
Great thread great posters I love it!
Perezuela
14-05-2005, 18:35
It slipped out! Nooooooooooooo, not the sodomy chamber! No!!!!!!!!
You haven't heard the last of me!
Ouch.. I feel sorry for you.
The Greater Holy See
14-05-2005, 18:36
Could the liberals please just SHUT THE FUCK UP for about a day or two? It is getting boooooring...

Such a bunch of militant hypocrites...

The same bullshit, over and over and over and over and over... yawn...

Where's Jack Bauer when some liberals need an asskicking? :sniper:
Sanctaphrax
14-05-2005, 18:36
Great thread great posters I love it!
Thanks Guff, I personally think Anduluciae's post was best :p
Celatea
14-05-2005, 18:36
"This guy is trolling. I wonder if catholicism is responsible for world overpopulation."

Actually, I would say that China and India are to blame for that.

They don't have too many Catholics in China or India!

http://www.mongabay.com/igapo/world_statistics_by_pop.htm
Frisbeeteria
14-05-2005, 18:36
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