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Is there anything the left and right can agree on?

Kejott
14-05-2005, 10:16
ANYTHING at all? ANNNYTHING? Is there any mutual feeling shared by republicans and liberals? I'm not talking about stuff like "we both know we hate each other", I'm talking about something of significance.
Patra Caesar
14-05-2005, 10:17
That American (and all the spin offs) Idol sucks?
United Plebeians
14-05-2005, 10:18
"We should try to improve the world."

A winner is me.
EDIT: Nevermind. It seems I was beaten before I even submitted.
The Alma Mater
14-05-2005, 10:18
"A circle is round" ?

Seriously, the American "left" and right are so much alike I find it hard to distinguish between the two.
SimNewtonia
14-05-2005, 10:21
"A circle is round" ?

Seriously, the American "left" and right are so much alike I find it hard to distinguish between the two.

It's much like that in Australia, too. The way they word things is about the only point of difference (oh, and the fact that one of them has had a series of incompetent leaders for the last decade.
Kejott
14-05-2005, 10:30
"A circle is round" ?

Seriously, the American "left" and right are so much alike I find it hard to distinguish between the two.

The Difference is simple. The two parties both have sticks up their asses. The Republican Party has a stick up their asses that somehow makes them more inclined to enforcing their religion(among other things) on people, needless voilence and dick-measuring contests, sensoring the media, and their relentless search to rid the earth of natural resources for profit.

The Democratic Party has a stick up their asses that makes them bitch and moan about every single little thing without taking action, want funding for ever single little government program but complain about high taxes, and underestimate the intelligence of republicans and dissmiss their contributions.
Incenjucarania
14-05-2005, 10:31
ANYTHING at all? ANNNYTHING? Is there any mutual feeling shared by republicans and liberals? I'm not talking about stuff like "we both know we hate each other", I'm talking about something of significance.

Modern US republicans -are- liberals.

Or do you mean republicans and democrats?
Enlightened Humanity
14-05-2005, 10:34
That American (and all the spin offs) Idol sucks?

Unfortunately you have the British to thank for American Idol - it was a spin off of our Pop Idol.

Many of us tried to contain it, but it was too infectious and has spread to several countries, including, unfortunately, yours.
Saxnot
14-05-2005, 10:43
Big Brother too.
Enlightened Humanity
14-05-2005, 10:44
Big Brother too.

bloody dutch
Gartref
14-05-2005, 11:08
Is there anything the left and right can agree on?

That Centrists are pussies.
Cannot think of a name
14-05-2005, 11:13
leftright

Actually, thats not even true. I think there are examples in this very thread...
Pepe Dominguez
14-05-2005, 11:17
The Senate voted 100-0 on something just the other day... someone here remembers it I'm sure.. I feel ashamed for forgetting, but it's 3 A.M, and I don't have a copy of CQ lying around right now.
Patra Caesar
14-05-2005, 11:20
Big Brother too.

I like Big Brother. They have the daily show which is crap, a nominations show, an eviction show all of which is OK. They have a friday night live task show which seems OK, but the one I like the most is 'up late' which is a live feed from the house uncensored and is fantastic, when they are awake.
Incenjucarania
14-05-2005, 11:21
The Senate voted 100-0 on something just the other day... someone here remembers it I'm sure.. I feel ashamed for forgetting, but it's 3 A.M, and I don't have a copy of CQ lying around right now.

Yes. They've given $82 BILLION more dollars to the war.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/05/10/war.funds/
Kejott
14-05-2005, 11:29
Yes. They've given $82 BILLION more dollars to the war.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/05/10/war.funds/

Oh great, fucking wonderful. They might as well just say "you know what? What do we even need with an economy? let's just get rid of the idea all together and print up all the money we need and overflood the market with money and make the value of the dollar sink lower than it already is!".
Pepe Dominguez
14-05-2005, 11:29
Yes. They've given $82 BILLION more dollars to the war.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/05/10/war.funds/

Aha. I knew there was something everyone likes: re-election. :)
Pepe Dominguez
14-05-2005, 11:32
Oh great, fucking wonderful. They might as well just say "you know what? What do we even need with an economy? let's just get rid of the idea all together and print up all the money we need and overflood the market with money and make the value of the dollar sink lower than it already is!".

Eh. I don't think the Mint has increased production at any increased rate. The dollar is on its way back, not that a weak dollar isn't good for the economy, especially tourism. A large portion of the Afghan/Iraq money comes back in one form or another anyway, with so much of it going to U.S. contractors.
Kharmic Chaos
14-05-2005, 11:35
The two,sides agree on a lot. Getting re-elected is a major shared interest. The left and right in any country are like the members of two pro teams. They may put on different uniforms and fight for everybody's amusement, but issues matter a lot less than staying in power and ruliing the rest of us. Principle, smensibles, just give us more of your money to spend. That's the commonality.
Turkishsquirrel
14-05-2005, 11:37
It's 3:30AM and the brain is melting down! Time for the beer and potato tomato soup
Incenjucarania
14-05-2005, 11:37
Aha. I knew there was something everyone likes: re-election. :)

Yep. I just hope I leave the country RIGHT before the bills from this war start hitting hope.

That way I can go back to the US in a few years, and buy up lots of land, and sell it back once the economy recovers.
Glinde Nessroe
14-05-2005, 11:49
The other side is wrong.
SimNewtonia
14-05-2005, 11:53
Eh. I don't think the Mint has increased production at any increased rate. The dollar is on its way back, not that a weak dollar isn't good for the economy, especially tourism. A large portion of the Afghan/Iraq money comes back in one form or another anyway, with so much of it going to U.S. contractors.

This is true. Australia's dollar was very low a few years ago, it sure helped to keep our economy on its feet (it's still growing by the way), and has been consistently for more than a decade. Australia now has a rather long economic cycle.
Pepe Dominguez
14-05-2005, 11:55
Yep. I just hope I leave the country RIGHT before the bills from this war start hitting hope.

That way I can go back to the US in a few years, and buy up lots of land, and sell it back once the economy recovers.

If you're gonna buy land, there's been some prome slots recently available due to base closures.. :) See, we've gotten back 50 of that 82 billion already. ;)

Seriously though, recent job growth has been quite helpful, with better-than-expected surplusses.. lets just hope it doesn't get squandered.
Incenjucarania
14-05-2005, 11:58
If you're gonna buy land, there's been some prome slots recently available due to base closures.. :) See, we've gotten back 50 of that 82 billion already. ;)

Seriously though, recent job growth has been quite helpful, with better-than-expected surplusses.. lets just hope it doesn't get squandered.

Yeah. My theory is, wait for the market to -spazz-, and for people to try and liquidate... then pull a doctor/lawyer/politician trick and buy up a whole bunch of land. When thing perk up again, sell it for a bundle, and cross your fingers for another spazz attack, so you can buy that much more land next time.
Niccolo Medici
14-05-2005, 12:00
If you're gonna buy land, there's been some prome slots recently available due to base closures.. :) See, we've gotten back 50 of that 82 billion already. ;)

Seriously though, recent job growth has been quite helpful, with better-than-expected surplusses.. lets just hope it doesn't get squandered.

Hey Pepe Dominguez, I heard that the 50 billion figure does not include the costs of Base Closure, and moreover that the figure is projected over 20 years. Hardly an immediate savings if its true.

Do you have any info on that? I'm curious to know if what I heard was actually the case. (If it IS true, I want to know how Aurthur Anderson found its new accounting job!)
Kanabia
14-05-2005, 12:17
It's much like that in Australia, too. The way they word things is about the only point of difference (oh, and the fact that one of them has had a series of incompetent leaders for the last decade.

...and that all of those particular ALP leaders have been center-rightists.
Pepe Dominguez
14-05-2005, 12:21
Hey Pepe Dominguez, I heard that the 50 billion figure does not include the costs of Base Closure, and moreover that the figure is projected over 20 years. Hardly an immediate savings if its true.

Do you have any info on that? I'm curious to know if what I heard was actually the case. (If it IS true, I want to know how Aurthur Anderson found its new accounting job!)

Dunno. I heard it was 50b, net, over 5 years. That's going by my memory from a newscast this afternoon, so maybe it's 10 or 20 years, possibly.

Edit:

From CNN:

"Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld said Thursday the changes would save the Pentagon more than $5 billion annually and produce a net savings of $48 billion during the next two decades."

So.. 5 billion a year, or 48 over 20? Which is it? I have no clue. Maybe 5b/year for a few, then less? No idea.
Super-power
14-05-2005, 13:07
ANYTHING at all? ANNNYTHING? Is there any mutual feeling shared by republicans and liberals? I'm not talking about stuff like "we both know we hate each other", I'm talking about something of significance.
How about they both work on the assumption of this question: "which part of your life would you like the government to control? Economic or social?"
Niccolo Medici
14-05-2005, 13:12
From CNN:

"Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld said Thursday the changes would save the Pentagon more than $5 billion annually and produce a net savings of $48 billion during the next two decades."

So.. 5 billion a year, or 48 over 20? Which is it? I have no clue. Maybe 5b/year for a few, then less? No idea.

Wow...that math makes my head hurt. Sounds like the good old days of Enron accounting indeed. ;)

I wonder where and what the actual figures are, and how the heck 5 x 20 = 48...

Strange. Anyone else know about it?
Upitatanium
14-05-2005, 14:45
Bacon is the superior meat.

Cookies are yummy.

Gigli was a horrible movie.
Eutrusca
14-05-2005, 14:46
ANYTHING at all? ANNNYTHING? Is there any mutual feeling shared by republicans and liberals? I'm not talking about stuff like "we both know we hate each other", I'm talking about something of significance.
Um ... the rule of law? :)
Achtung 45
15-05-2005, 08:57
Yes. They've given $82 BILLION more dollars to the war.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/05/10/war.funds/
f*ck
Blood Moon Goblins
15-05-2005, 09:03
I think everybody can agree that everybody else whines far too much :P
Americai
15-05-2005, 09:13
ANYTHING at all? ANNNYTHING? Is there any mutual feeling shared by republicans and liberals? I'm not talking about stuff like "we both know we hate each other", I'm talking about something of significance.

Can't say. Both extreme forms are making the left and right crazier and crazier. We have extremists like al-queda members in our country to. They are called ultra-libs and neo-cons.
Bitchkitten
15-05-2005, 09:14
Considering Bush's approval rating, apparently a good number of both sides think he sucks.