NationStates Jolt Archive

Iraq, a rogue nation that in the past has used chemical weapons to murder millions, and also has possession of extensive oilfields, has failed to fully comply with a UN resolution to cooperate with weapons inspectors.

1. "Kill 'em all and let God sort 'em out...our God, that is." Says Vice President Dick Cheney. "If they have WMDs, that's a good reason to get 'em. And if they don't, well, then they can't defend themselves! I smell a new colony, either way!"

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2. "What we need to do is overthrow their current corrupt and genocidal government, and replace it with one more in touch with their people," says humanitarian rights activist Shirley Prissmeister. "All people on earth have the right to free elections, free health care, free schools, heck, free everything! Since we have the power, we have the responsibility to step in!"

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3. "What we have here is a failure to communicate!" argues peace activist Ian Bryce Apansy. "There is no right and wrong way to live - just different. Sure, Iraq's leader is brutal and crazy, but we have no right to judge anyone else! I mean, look at the way we have behaved towards the indigenous people of our own country; are we really riding such a moral high horse?"

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4. "War, yes, but oilfields, no," says Neo-Conservative Rich Perlman. "There is no reason to send our boys and girls to die on foreign soil. Pansy yellow bleeding hearts are always arguing to reduce the size of our mighty nuclear arsenal - lets get rid of a few missiles right now, by turning Iraq into a slab of glass! That'll teach the world who the power to be reckoned with is!"

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This was kind a joke in another forum - but just wanted to put it out there...

Peace is the best solution the problem is how to achive it

Just because we have the power, doesn't mean we should use it. And don't play the "rights" card because I don't believe in rights as absolute.

Hussein didn't kill "millions". :rolleyes:

Ein Deutscher']Hussein didn't kill "millions". :rolleyes:

You're really pushing it. Such a blind, misguided statement is comparable to denying the Holocaust. I truly pity you amidst your fog of self-imposed ignorance.

You're really pushing it. Such a blind, misguided statement is comparable to denying the Holocaust. I truly pity you amidst your fog of self-imposed ignorance.
I killed millions...

You're really pushing it. Such a blind, misguided statement is comparable to denying the Holocaust. I truly pity you amidst your fog of self-imposed ignorance.


Saddam killed many thousands of people, yes, but not MILLIONS. He may have been a mass murderer, but the statistics simply don't reach into the millions.

Does that deny the point that he did kill many a'people. No need for debate, he is an awful person and god will make him pay.

sometimes you want a peaceful solution, but the other side wont agree to terms for peace... so the only thing to do is to eliminate the other side, and then peacefully change what was supposed to be changed.


-comparable to the israeli/palestinian conflict. Israelis have tried the whole peace thing for upwards of 20 years. recently, and before he died, yassir arafat was given the golden opportunity for peace with israel, however, he instead denied, and created intifada, and a publicised movement of "push the jews into the [mediterranean] sea". sometimes, you just cant have peace in a peaceful way, sometime one side wants too much for peace, and the second you give up a little, theyll go back on their word and ask for more... its a lose lose situation..so the only way to go about solving the problem, is to eliminate hte source of the problem, then go on to making whatever peace reforms necessary.

You're really pushing it. Such a blind, misguided statement is comparable to denying the Holocaust. I truly pity you amidst your fog of self-imposed ignorance.

You're the one making a blind misguided statement. Hussiens only been acused of the deaths of 750,000 people, and most of those were Iranian soldiers (BTW Iran started that war, and they were the first ones to use chemical weapons). You might as well have said Hilter kill billions of people.

sometimes you want a peaceful solution, but the other side wont agree to terms for peace... so the only thing to do is to eliminate the other side, and then peacefully change what was supposed to be changed.


-comparable to the israeli/palestinian conflict. Israelis have tried the whole peace thing for upwards of 20 years. recently, and before he died, yassir arafat was given the golden opportunity for peace with israel, however, he instead denied, and created intifada, and a publicised movement of "push the jews into the [mediterranean] sea". sometimes, you just cant have peace in a peaceful way, sometime one side wants too much for peace, and the second you give up a little, theyll go back on their word and ask for more... its a lose lose situation..so the only way to go about solving the problem, is to eliminate hte source of the problem, then go on to making whatever peace reforms necessary.

And who are you to say who's right or wrong?

Both the Israelis and the Palestinians had a valid claim to the holy land. Who are you to determine which gets to act on that claim?

And who are you to say who's right or wrong?

Both the Israelis and the Palestinians had a valid claim to the holy land. Who are you to determine which gets to act on that claim?
Tell them to quit bitching, calm down and learn to share the damn place.

Tell them to quit bitching, calm down and learn to share the damn place.

Oh how I wish that would just happen. :(

Oh how I wish that would just happen. :(
People don't sit down and think about things anymore. :(

I killed millions...
I kill millions on a regular basis... poor little sperm cells.

*reaches for a towel*

:p

Tell them to quit bitching, calm down and learn to share the damn place.
Exactly what I've been saying for the past couple of years. Why don't we rule the world? Gah.

Exactly what I've been saying for the past couple of years. Why don't we rule the world? Gah.
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You're really pushing it. Such a blind, misguided statement is comparable to denying the Holocaust. I truly pity you amidst your fog of self-imposed ignorance.
And yet, you voted for this option:

4. "War, yes, but oilfields, no," says Neo-Conservative Rich Perlman. "There is no reason to send our boys and girls to die on foreign soil. Pansy yellow bleeding hearts are always arguing to reduce the size of our mighty nuclear arsenal - lets get rid of a few missiles right now, by turning Iraq into a slab of glass! That'll teach the world who the power to be reckoned with is!"

By trying to pin "millions" of deaths on Saddam, then you would be able to justify total annihilation of Iraq with nukes?

Sounds like a "self imposed" God complex?

You forgot the option:

"Settle down now or I'll shoot the bunny!"

My apologies. I was merely angered at {NS} Ein Deutscher's wild denial of Saddam's atrocities. I fully apologize for said outburst. And in regards to the poll option: It was from the standpoint of an NS issue, which I take less than seriously. Besides, I'm entitled to my opinion, aren't I ;) ?

You're the one making a blind misguided statement. Hussiens only been acused of the deaths of 750,000 people, and most of those were Iranian soldiers (BTW Iran started that war, and they were the first ones to use chemical weapons). You might as well have said Hilter kill billions of people.
Only 750 000 people? Pah. A mere pittiance. :rolleyes:

In 30 years it's speculated he killed around 300,000. I think he's got nothing on us Americans, we're going to top him in less time too!

Only 750 000 people? Pah. A mere pittiance. :rolleyes:

His point was not to downplay the killings of Hussein, just to correct a misstatement that could have blown things out of perspective.

I think we are doing the right thing there mostly, though we are running it a bit sloppily. New Government all the way.

I think we are doing the right thing there mostly, though we are running it a bit sloppily. New Government all the way.
Und was ist richtig? Kennen Sie was ist richtig oder haben Sie keine Idee?

Und was ist richtig? Kennen Sie was ist wichtig oder haben Sie keine Idee?

Sorry I don't speak.... German? I'm just saying that I think it's good to liberate people from a harsh dictator, but we should be trying harder to avoid innocent deaths too.

Sorry I don't speak.... German? I'm just saying that I think it's good to liberate people from a harsh dictator, but we should be trying harder to avoid innocent deaths too.


I'm not saying that Saddam Hussein was a hero of the Iraqi people or denying some of the attrocities he committed, but when discussing foreign leaders we should not assume that they are infinitely evil and that the people they govern are incapable of liberating themselves.

I'm not saying that Saddam Hussein was a hero of the Iraqi people or denying some of the attrocities he committed, but when discussing foreign leaders we should not assume that they are infinitely evil and that the people they govern are incapable of liberating themselves.

I didn't say he was evil. I just said he was a dictator, which is a legal term. He gassed some of his own people... What was their crime other than disagreeing with him?

You know, I think the Iraqis have suffered enough without stupid, childish, 'joke' questions about whether they should now be 'nuked'. I'd like to ask everyone here what has an ordinary Iraqi done to you? If certain governments, caught out on their original lies that Sadaam had WMD, now trumpet that they did the world and Iraqis a favour in toppling him, isn't it asinine for us to bandy these 'thoughts' about?