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Poll time!: Santinism

World Wide Witchcraft
13-05-2005, 02:45
People have heared terrifying stories of Satinism, but the question really is, WHAT IS IT? (To me, its good for at least of the majority of the poeple that don't kill...)
World Wide Witchcraft
13-05-2005, 02:47
Srry.. poll on the next title...
World Wide Witchcraft
13-05-2005, 02:47
:rolleyes: People have heared terrifying stories of Satinism, but the question really is, WHAT IS IT? (To me, its good for at least of the majority of the poeple that don't kill...)
Bodies Without Organs
13-05-2005, 02:48
People have heared terrifying stories of Satinism, but the question really is, WHAT IS IT? (To me, its good for at least of the majority of the poeple that don't kill...)

Good question. I know what satanism is, but WTF is 'santinism'?
New Genoa
13-05-2005, 02:48
What the hell is Santinism? Worship of Santa?
Wegason
13-05-2005, 02:50
What the hell is Santinism? Worship of Santa?

ROFL. Got to love that
Turkishsquirrel
13-05-2005, 02:51
What the hell is Santinism? Worship of Santa?
Pssh. Don't you know? It's the worship of Satin :rolleyes:
Hammolopolis
13-05-2005, 02:54
ROFL. Got to love that
Who is Santin, and why do people fear him?

Is you mean satanism, as in the Church of Satan, found by Anton LaVey thats a different story. Its an athiest hedonist religion that espouses the idea of putting your own desires ahead of all others. Its not really all that evil.
http://www.churchofsatan.com/
Kervoskia
13-05-2005, 02:57
ROFL. Got to love that
Christmas is really a Santinistic holiday, I knew it!
World Wide Witchcraft
13-05-2005, 02:59
Who is Santin, and why do people fear him?

Is you mean satanism, as in the Church of Satan, found by Anton LaVey thats a different story. Its an athiest hedonist religion that espouses the idea of putting your own desires ahead of all others. Its not really all that evil.
http://www.churchofsatan.com/


People worry of Satin beacause Catholics said he was a fallen angel of God and is the devil and the ruler of Hell, where all evil spirits of Earth go to when they die...
World Wide Witchcraft
13-05-2005, 03:00
Christmas is really a Santinistic holiday, I knew it!

PLEASE...EXPLAIN HOW...
Turkishsquirrel
13-05-2005, 03:01
People worry of Satin beacause Catholics said he was a fallen angel of God and is the devil and the ruler of Hell, where all evil spirits of Earth go to when they die...
Satin is a very nice fabric. ;)
Kervoskia
13-05-2005, 03:01
PLEASE...EXPLAIN HOW...
Its not I was merely playing with your typo, its Satanism.
Hammolopolis
13-05-2005, 03:02
People worry of Satin beacause Catholics said he was a fallen angel of God and is the devil and the ruler of Hell, where all evil spirits of Earth go to when they die...
The Church of Satan does not acknowledge the actual existence of the devil, they consider him a religious archetype.
World Wide Witchcraft
13-05-2005, 03:02
[QUOTE=Kervoskia]Its not I was merely playing with your typo, its Satanism.[/QU

Y do i even try... :(
Soviet Narco State
13-05-2005, 03:03
I'd sell my soul for an PSP.

*Nothing happens*

Damn, this is why I am not a Satinist.
Hammolopolis
13-05-2005, 03:03
Also your poll is kinda weird, theres nothing in satanism about killing people.
World Wide Witchcraft
13-05-2005, 03:04
:( The Church of Satan does not acknowledge the actual existence of the devil, they consider him a religious archetype.

Im terribly sorry I put that up... I guess I don't know as much as any Satinist...
Bodies Without Organs
13-05-2005, 03:05
I guess I don't know as much as any Satinist...

S.A.T.A.N.I.S.T


It really isn't that hard to spell. If you can manage 'religion' correctly you should be able to manage this.
New Genoa
13-05-2005, 03:05
I'm in league with satan
I was raised in hell
I walk the streets of Salem
Amongst the living dead
I need no one to tell me
What's wrong or right
I drink the blood of children
Stalk my prey at night

Look out beware
When the full moon's high n'bright
In every way I'm there
In every shadow in the night
Coz I'm evil in league with satan
Evil in league with satan

I'm in league with satan
Obey his commands
With the goat of Mendes
Sitting at his left hand
I'm in league with satan
I love the dead
No one prayed for Sodom
As the people fled

I'm in league with satan
I am the masters own
I drink the juice of women
As they lie alone
I'm in league with satan
I bear the devils mark
I kill the new born baby
Tear the infants flesh
Hammolopolis
13-05-2005, 03:05
:(

Im terribly sorry I put that up... I guess I don't know as much as any Satinist...
Its no big deal, I thought the same thing until I actually got curious and looked into it. Theres so much misinformation its hard not to think that.
World Wide Witchcraft
13-05-2005, 03:06
Also your poll is kinda weird, theres nothing in satanism about killing people.

Many Catholics beleive clans of Satinism kill people in the name of Satanism
Kervoskia
13-05-2005, 03:06
:(

Im terribly sorry I put that up... I guess I don't know as much as any Satinist...
So, you're not a Satanist....are you a Wiccan?
World Wide Witchcraft
13-05-2005, 03:06
So, you're not a Satanist....are you a Wiccan?

Close, im a Christain Witch.

Not ansult to any1
Hammolopolis
13-05-2005, 03:07
Many Catholics beleive clans of Satinism kill people in the name of Satanism
Well they don't. Weird though I used to be Catholic and I never heard that.
World Wide Witchcraft
13-05-2005, 03:09
Well they don't. Weird though I used to be Catholic and I never heard that.


What r u now?
Gartref
13-05-2005, 03:11
Close, im a Christain Witch.

Not ansult to any1

Will club soda remove a Christain from my satin witch?
World Wide Witchcraft
13-05-2005, 03:14
Will club soda remove a Christain from my satin witch?

im srry, i dont see what ur saying...
Kervoskia
13-05-2005, 03:16
Will club soda remove a Christain from my satin witch?
Rub it with a rag soaked in warm water.
Hammolopolis
13-05-2005, 03:17
What r u now?
Just straight up athiest, nothing fancy.
World Wide Witchcraft
13-05-2005, 03:21
Rub it with a rag soaked in warm water.

I am sooooooooo confused! Somebody save me!:headbang:
Kervoskia
13-05-2005, 03:23
Just straight up athiest, nothing fancy.
I'm sure there is someway to dress up that name. How about Non-organizational Secular Egoist??
World Wide Witchcraft
13-05-2005, 03:24
Just straight up athiest, nothing fancy.

Dou always get bugged about people to join a religion.

I know how it feels, people saying, "UR A WITCH! TURN BACK TO GOD!!!" (Even though I havn't left him!)


I don't want to be offensive or offedns any1 with my religion...
Kervoskia
13-05-2005, 03:25
I am sooooooooo confused! Somebody save me!:headbang:
Sorry about that.
Lord-General Drache
13-05-2005, 03:31
1) There has never been any hard, concrete evidence of so called Satanic killings/rituals, if I recall right. Feel free to correct me on this one.

2)I've no problem with Satanists, really. First off, if they follow the actual rules, they're not your stereotypical Devil worshipping people. Second, I don't believe in the Devil..or God..for that matter, so it's a bit moot, I suppose.

3)A friendly tip... use spellcheck. A lot of credibility is lost, at least for me, in a post if someone is making chronic typos.
Robot ninja pirates
13-05-2005, 03:35
What the hell is Santinism? Worship of Santa?
Are you going to seriously say that as a child, you never prayed to Santa? He is more important than god, does god every bring you video games? No! Cheapskate...
Imperial Dark Rome
13-05-2005, 04:11
People have heared terrifying stories of Satinism, but the question really is, WHAT IS IT? (To me, its good for at least of the majority of the poeple that don't kill...)

1.Stop insulting my religion by your continuous misspelling, and your stupidity and lack of understanding in this subject. It's spelled as Satanism, and if you believe in it. You are a Satanist. That's how you spell those two words.

2.Satanism is a religion.

3.We don't kill people, kids, animals, etc...

4.Satanists have been accused of kidnapping, raping, killing, and even eating people. It has been investigated by the FBI for decades. None have been proven, because it never happened.

5.We don't worship the Christian Satan. No one in the right mind would worship the Christian Satan. Only Devil worshippers (aka the fake Satanists, that don't know anything about Satanism) worship the Christian Satan.

We believe in the pre-Christian version of Satan. When Satan was known as a "good guy". Before Christianity label Satan as a villain. Also we traditionally don't believe in Satan as a being, we believe him as a force of nature, but even if a person does believe in Satan as a being. It makes no difference in the religion, because we are our own gods.

Posted by the Satanic Priest, Lord Medivh
Riverlund
13-05-2005, 04:25
I am sooooooooo confused! Somebody save me!:headbang:

You keep typing "satinism" not "satanism". Since Satanism's root word is "Satan", then the root word of "satinism" is "satin." You know, the material? Hence all the jokes at your expense.
New Genoa
13-05-2005, 04:35
Are you going to seriously say that as a child, you never prayed to Santa? He is more important than god, does god every bring you video games? No! Cheapskate...

That's because god was too busy playing skeeball.
The South Sand Islands
13-05-2005, 04:40
You could just ask him (http://7thrimofhell.blogspot.com/) yourself...
Texpunditistan
13-05-2005, 04:41
Is you mean satanism, as in the Church of Satan, found by Anton LaVey thats a different story. Its an athiest hedonist religion that espouses the idea of putting your own desires ahead of all others. Its not really all that evil.
I, personally, think that's a pretty good definition of "evil". The most heinous acts in history have resulted from an individual or group putting their own desires ahead of all others.
Imperial Dark Rome
13-05-2005, 04:50
I, personally, think that's a pretty good definition of "evil". The most heinous acts in history have resulted from an individual or group putting their own desires ahead of all others.

Satanism is not evil. We don't support breaking the law, and we don't do heinous acts, and don't forgot all of the heinous acts by people who do horrible things "in the name of God".

Posted by the Satanic Priest, Lord Medivh
[NS]Simonist
13-05-2005, 04:52
I, personally, think that's a pretty good definition of "evil". The most heinous acts in history have resulted from an individual or group putting their own desires ahead of all others.
It also depends a bit on the individual. I won't deny there's potential for negative acts when groups are involved, but that's the case with ANY group. (Go to Topeka, KS on any fair-weathered weekend and check out the Fred Phelps groups protesting, if you don't believe me.) If the individual can understand any level of moderation, even in their own desires (which is surprisingly easy, even for the most "selfish" religions, which I've heard Satanism called), I dont' think it's so bad.

And for this Santinism nonsense, the first thing that crossed my mind was recording star Carlos Santana, but that might be because I'm listening to Evil Ways at the moment.....
Texpunditistan
13-05-2005, 05:11
Satanism is not evil. We don't support breaking the law, and we don't do heinous acts, and don't forgot all of the heinous acts by people who do horrible things "in the name of God".

Posted by the Satanic Priest, Lord Medivh
*smacks you in the head with a brick*

Did I say a WORD about Satanism? Guilty conscience?

I was just commenting on the definition. I didn't name ANY religion because the "heinous acts" part can apply to a large number of religions.
Lord-General Drache
13-05-2005, 05:13
1.Stop insulting my religion by your continuous misspelling, and your stupidity and lack of understanding in this subject. It's spelled as Satanism, and if you believe in it. You are a Satanist. That's how you spell those two words.

2.Satanism is a religion.

3.We don't kill people, kids, animals, etc...

4.Satanists have been accused of kidnapping, raping, killing, and even eating people. It has been investigated by the FBI for decades. None have been proven, because it never happened.

5.We don't worship the Christian Satan. No one in the right mind would worship the Christian Satan. Only Devil worshippers (aka the fake Satanists, that don't know anything about Satanism) worship the Christian Satan.

We believe in the pre-Christian version of Satan. When Satan was known as a "good guy". Before Christianity label Satan as a villain. Also we traditionally don't believe in Satan as a being, we believe him as a force of nature, but even if a person does believe in Satan as a being. It makes no difference in the religion, because we are our own gods.

Posted by the Satanic Priest, Lord Medivh

That's what I've told others, too. And that it's not just a a "cult" or a "fad" performed by "some kids" who are "up to no good".
Serene Forests
13-05-2005, 05:38
1.Stop insulting my religion by your continuous misspelling, and your stupidity and lack of understanding in this subject. It's spelled as Satanism, and if you believe in it. You are a Satanist. That's how you spell those two words.

Oh, get off his/her back already. I can tell that this is either (a) a person who doesn't quite spell accurately, or (b) a teenager. Neither deserves a verbal slap in the face as you've given this person.

2.Satanism is a religion.

<snip>

5.We don't worship the Christian Satan. No one in the right mind would worship the Christian Satan. Only Devil worshippers (aka the fake Satanists, that don't know anything about Satanism) worship the Christian Satan.

We believe in the pre-Christian version of Satan. When Satan was known as a "good guy". Before Christianity label Satan as a villain. Also we traditionally don't believe in Satan as a being, we believe him as a force of nature, but even if a person does believe in Satan as a being. It makes no difference in the religion, because we are our own gods.

All right.... this statement tells me that your version of Satanism is a religion, but not everyone goes by that. I only hope that your "pre-Christian version of Satan" isn't the Egyptian god Set (god of Storms) that LaVey's protegé is making him out to be. Set wants that group to leave Him alone.

Blessings,

Ketira shena Pretara'sedrin
Child of Sekhmet
Shaman in service to the Egyptian pantheon
Big Jim P
13-05-2005, 07:09
I will prctice satinism at exactly the same moment someone starts practicing wenchcraft. :D
Lord-General Drache
13-05-2005, 07:13
I will prctice satinism at exactly the same moment someone starts practicing wenchcraft. :D

Hey!Where've you been?I've not seen you posting for ages. o.O
And..I think people already do that. It's called Hedonism. *grins*
Ernst_Rohm
13-05-2005, 07:14
there are many ways to serve the morning star, but forcing your sister-in-law to be to sing the rose at you wedding is not one of them... that's evil granted, but wrong, so terribly wrong.
Big Jim P
13-05-2005, 07:33
there are many ways to serve the morning star, but forcing your sister-in-law to be to sing the rose at you wedding is not one of them... that's evil granted, but wrong, so terribly wrong.

I'm not forcing anyone to sing anything, and I never claimed to be anything other than total evil. :p
Hammolopolis
13-05-2005, 08:31
I, personally, think that's a pretty good definition of "evil". The most heinous acts in history have resulted from an individual or group putting their own desires ahead of all others.
Some of the greatest things in history have come about when people stopped caring what others thought and pursued their own goals on their own terms. Simply ascribing indivdualism to evil is incredibly naive. It is neither a good thing nor a bad thing, it simply is. It can be used just as easily to do something good as it can to do something bad.
Imperial Dark Rome
13-05-2005, 09:17
1.Stop insulting my religion by your continuous misspelling, and your stupidity and lack of understanding in this subject. It's spelled as Satanism, and if you believe in it. You are a Satanist. That's how you spell those two words.

Oh, get off his/her back already. I can tell that this is either (a) a person who doesn't quite spell accurately, or (b) a teenager. Neither deserves a verbal slap in the face as you've given this person.

The number one Satanic Sin is Stupidity. All Satanists have no patience for stupidity. According to my faith, I have every right to disrespect people who have proven to me that they are stupid. He was corrected about three times from other posters, and he still misspells my religion. That shows disrespect towards me and any other Satanists. So he deserves all the slaps he gets.

2.Satanism is a religion.

<snip>

5.We don't worship the Christian Satan. No one in the right mind would worship the Christian Satan. Only Devil worshippers (aka the fake Satanists, that don't know anything about Satanism) worship the Christian Satan.

We believe in the pre-Christian version of Satan. When Satan was known as a "good guy". Before Christianity label Satan as a villain. Also we traditionally don't believe in Satan as a being, we believe him as a force of nature, but even if a person does believe in Satan as a being. It makes no difference in the religion, because we are our own gods.

All right.... this statement tells me that your version of Satanism is a religion, but not everyone goes by that. I only hope that your "pre-Christian version of Satan" isn't the Egyptian god Set (god of Storms) that LaVey's protegé is making him out to be. Set wants that group to leave Him alone.

It's not just "my" version Satanism, because there's only one real Satanism, which is the Religious Satanism. The other kind of Satanism is call Gothic Satanism aka Devil worshipping aka Satanic Dabbling. Which are fake and have nothing to do with religious aka real Satanism which is a religion.

Believing in Satan is not required for Satanism. Satanism is a philosophy, a way of life. If you live by the philosophy of Satanism, then you don't need to believe in any form of Satan. Believing in any form of Satan is optional, since there's not enough evidence to prove or disprove of Satan's existence.

Those who do believe in Satan as a God also believe in the other 42 Dark Gods. It doesn't really matter what pre-Christian version of Satan we believe in because Satan is the symbol of being the opposite of all other religions.

"I only hope that your "pre-Christian version of Satan" isn't the Egyptian god Set (god of Storms) that LaVey's protegé is making him out to be."

It's more like the other way around. It was LaVey's protege that believes in this Egyptian god. In 1975, the member of the Church of Satan, Michael Aquino, left the Church of Satan after a disagreement, and organized the Temple of Set. Members of the Temple of Set recognize the Egyptian God. The God was typically portrayed as a man with the head of an animal, the hyena. The media have linked the Temple of Set with the Church of Satan and called both forms of Satanism. The leaders of both religious groups deny that they are related.

Posted by the Satanic Priest, Lord Medivh
BackwoodsSquatches
13-05-2005, 09:25
You dont really go around calling yourself "The Satanic Preist, Lord Medivh" do you?
Potaria
13-05-2005, 09:27
You dont really go around calling yourself "The Satanic Preist, Lord Medivh" do you?

I sure hope not. Although, it would be hilarious if he does.
Imperial Dark Rome
13-05-2005, 09:33
You dont really go around calling yourself "The Satanic Preist, Lord Medivh" do you?

Yes, I do. I am a Satanic preist at my local Church of Satan, and in Satanism we believe that we are our own gods. So It is common for a Satanist to call himself "Lord", and my name is Medivh.

Therefore I am the Satanic priest, Lord Medivh.

Is there anything wrong with that?
Potaria
13-05-2005, 09:33
Yes, I do. I am a Satanic preist at my local Church of Satan, and in Satanism we believe that we are our own gods. So It is common for a Satanist to call himself "Lord", and my name is Medivh.

Therefore I am the Satanic priest, Lord Medivh.

Is there anything wrong with that?

No, I just find it funny.
Trolsk
13-05-2005, 10:45
In the name of Lucifer, can't we all just move on. I only recently had a debate/nearly turned into argument, over satanism in the "What is your REAL Religion?" thread. Yes, I'm a satanist and I tend to my ego, but people have totally gt the whole idea of what the ego represents wrong. If they really want to make a debate on what I mean by this, they can contact me on AIM at MelekTausdav, however I refuse to stood down to the level of stupidity by joining the argument here. Let it die people, the damned 'satinist' typos are killing me!
Toujours-Rouge
13-05-2005, 11:02
I'm sure there is someway to dress up that name. How about Non-organizational Secular Egoist??

Athiesm and Egoism aren't the same thing :P
New Genoa
13-05-2005, 17:53
Yes, I do. I am a Satanic preist at my local Church of Satan, and in Satanism we believe that we are our own gods. So It is common for a Satanist to call himself "Lord", and my name is Medivh.

Therefore I am the Satanic priest, Lord Medivh.

Is there anything wrong with that?

How are you so authoritarian if you believe that you are a god, wouldn't authoritarianism discourge people claiming to be gods?
Frangland
13-05-2005, 18:03
Who is Santin, and why do people fear him?

Is you mean satanism, as in the Church of Satan, found by Anton LaVey thats a different story. Its an athiest hedonist religion that espouses the idea of putting your own desires ahead of all others. Its not really all that evil.
http://www.churchofsatan.com/

putting your own desires ahead of all others... in the extreme, this is known as sociopathy... people are toys by whom you obtain gratification.

yes, self-centeredness is a great ideal.
Frangland
13-05-2005, 18:05
BTW, my real name is Vassago.
Riverlund
13-05-2005, 20:34
Yes, I do. I am a Satanic preist at my local Church of Satan, and in Satanism we believe that we are our own gods. So It is common for a Satanist to call himself "Lord", and my name is Medivh.

Therefore I am the Satanic priest, Lord Medivh.

Is there anything wrong with that?

Aside from the fact that it sounds completely ridiculous, no I suppose not.

How do you pronounce "Medivh" anyway?
The Tribes Of Longton
13-05-2005, 20:44
S.A.T.A.N.I.S.T
Stupid Awful Televangelists Are Now In Satan's Tent!!!

Anyway, where is the option for 'made up by the church by incorporating many elements from earlier 'gods' (pan's goat legs, the pentagram from goddess worship) to make people fear the old religions'?
Neo-Anarchists
13-05-2005, 21:37
Satan told me to vote for every option.