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I guess this should come as no surprize to anyone considering that its the neocon agenda to enslave all the worlds people to international corporate fascists-so it would appear that theyre off to a good start. Wonder how long it will take before people we speak to here and in our daily lives become enslaved by these creatures who've turned terrorism into big business and use it as an excuse to destroy Democracy and people power in the world today.

The International Labour Organization is reporting that over 12 million people worldwide now live in modern slavery. Of those, one-fifth are trafficked, generating profits of over $30 billion. While the largest numbers are in poor Asian countries and in Latin America, more than 350,000 enslaved people are living in industrialized nations.

I guess this should come as no surprize to anyone considering that its the neocon agenda to enslave all the worlds people to international corporate fascists-so it would appear that theyre off to a good start. Wonder how long it will take before people we speak to here and in our daily lives become enslaved by these creatures who've turned terrorism into big business and use it as an excuse to destroy Democracy and people power in the world today.

Sure.... But I see you skipped the fact that the slvae trade is running rampant in the Sudan where Islamic rebels backed by the Arab government reguraly rape and pillage villages of black Christians. Oh, and they also sell the survivors into slavery.

I do see the direct relation between modern slave trade and the neocon agenda. Very good work....

not to suggest i don't believe it, 12 actually seems a little low to me, but i would like to see a source.

Sure.... But I see you skipped the fact that the slvae trade is running rampant in the Sudan where Islamic rebels backed by the Arab government reguraly rape and pillage villages of black Christians. Oh, and they also sell the survivors into slavery.
Bush thinks slavery and genocide in Sudan is ok because theyre cooperating with the CIA regarding intelligence

There were similar statistics under Clinton for slavery, I don't see what American politics has to do with slavery since most of it is in other countries.

I do see the direct relation between modern slave trade and the neocon agenda. Very good work....
:D

not to suggest i don't believe it, 12 actually seems a little low to me, but i would like to see a source.
evil corporations are the source

Bush thinks slavery and genocide in Sudan is ok because theyre cooperating with the CIA regarding intelligence

The rest of the world is remarkably quiet regarding the events in Sudan, so should we take that as worldwide approval?

There were similar statistics under Clinton for slavery, I don't see what American politics has to do with slavery since most of it is in other countries.
because its an extension of US foreign policy--and Clinton was a neolib like Bush is a neocon

I do see the direct relation between modern slave trade and the neocon agenda. Very good work....
Amazing isn't it?

The rest of the world is remarkably quite regarding the events in Sudan, so should we take that as worldwide approval?
evil corporations have no allegiance to any country-I focus on America since its the evil empire

The rest of the world is remarkably quite regarding the events in Sudan, so should we take that as worldwide approval?
Majority rule, at least that is part of the reasoning.

evil corporations are the source
There are several problems with this statement!

1. Evil corporations: What makes a corporation evil? Perhaps something better would be an analysis coming to the conclusion, with evidence and all of those fancy things to back it up, instead of a blanket statement.

2. The labor that these slaves do tends to be of a nature that isn't all that useful to corporations. For example, a goodly number of slaves are used by dictators for their various reasons or sold into sexual slavery. I fail to see the benefit a profit-driven organization would get from that. Espescially if they were found out. And someone would find them out.

3. Source: does that mean that they provide the slaves? Do they provide the demand? What are they the source of?

evil corporations have no allegiance to any country-I focus on America since its the evil empire
I believe that the line of flamebaiting is nearing good sir, it is certainly very close.

I believe that the line of flamebaiting is nearing good sir, it is certainly very close.
its not flamebaiting its a fact. And btw I say that as an American myself. Im just objective enuf to see things as they are

its not flamebaiting its a fact. And btw I say that as an American myself. Im just objective enuf to see things as they are
"Many of the truths we cling to, depend upon our point of view."

You have an opinion, you are clearly not objective. No one is objective. Objectivity is a lie.

Buddy. That's flamebaiting. I'm just trying to help prolong your existence. If you want to die a fiery death at the hands of the Mods, be my guest. I'm just lending you a hand.

There are several problems with this statement!

1. Evil corporations: What makes a corporation evil? Perhaps something better would be an analysis coming to the conclusion, with evidence and all of those fancy things to back it up, instead of a blanket statement.

2. The labor that these slaves do tends to be of a nature that isn't all that useful to corporations. For example, a goodly number of slaves are used by dictators for their various reasons or sold into sexual slavery. I fail to see the benefit a profit-driven organization would get from that. Espescially if they were found out. And someone would find them out.

3. Source: does that mean that they provide the slaves? Do they provide the demand? What are they the source of?
Intl corporations are evil because they destroy everything in the path of their bottomless greed and lust for total control. The slaves that work in Walmart and other sweatshops like Nike factories etc etc all work to benefit corporate poverty pimps and the IMF.

evil corporations are the source


You say corporations are evil, yet you are on the net and a computer. You probably have a TV and maybe a satelite or cable. Not to mention a phone and maybe even a cell phone. You probably drive some automobile, buy your food at a store and probably sit down in a coffee shop to drink some coffee.

Hmm if corporations are so evil then you should revert to the 1800's

I see that Mr. BP has descended into the use of slogans and key phrases. No meaningful debate can occur with a fanatic. I'm gone.

I see that Mr. BP has descended into the use of slogans and key phrases. No meaningful debate can occur with a fanatic. I'm gone.
Someone's read a little too much Michael Moore.

You say corporations are evil, yet you are on the net and a computer. You probably have a TV and maybe a satelite or cable. Not to mention a phone and maybe even a cell phone. You probably drive some automobile, buy your food at a store and probably sit down in a coffee shop to drink some coffee.

Hmm if corporations are so evil then you should revert to the 1800's
the internet was developed by our socialist military not corporate parasites

I see that Mr. BP has descended into the use of slogans and key phrases. No meaningful debate can occur with a fanatic. I'm gone.
your lack of objectivity makes me sad :(

your lack of objectivity makes me sad :(
Your lack of objectivity is clear, please don't sound so sure of yourself without proof.

Your lack of objectivity is clear, please don't sound so sure of yourself without proof.
but Im defending the people who matter and there is proof for everything that I post but its not my area of specialty. My area function is to speak truth to power.

the internet was developed by our socialist military not corporate parasites

Last I checked, the average computer is not made by the military, nor is the average internet service provider with the military.

Last I checked, the average computer is not made by the military, nor is the average internet service provider with the military.
its origin was the military

So were nukes.

Clearly, this means that nukes being made by Bill Gates and sold to the public would be a socialist thing.

Sure.... But I see you skipped the fact that the slvae trade is running rampant in the Sudan where Islamic rebels backed by the Arab government reguraly rape and pillage villages of black Christians. Oh, and they also sell the survivors into slavery.
Is this the same place where christian groups have gone into villages and massacred hundreds of women and children for being muslim?

Or am I thinking of a different nation?

Is this the same place where christian groups have gone into villages and massacred hundreds of women and children for being muslim?

Or am I thinking of a different nation?

Neither, you are making stuff up.

but Im defending the people who matter and there is proof for everything that I post but its not my area of specialty. My area function is to speak truth to power.
em. hmm. k, see this reminds me of anarchists who spend 140 dolalrs on pants 10 sizes too big for them, 50 dollars ona clever t-shirts, then claim to fight the power. you're spouting fanatical vitriol and becoming offended when anyone even mildly disagrees. i'd give ya a week before forumban.

also. no one country is "evil." the only reason people quantify anything as such is to rationalize that thing's destruction. our war in the middle east serves as a prime example. it's so much easier to kill someone because they are evil than it is to do so for purely political reasons. anyway, the point is: calm down.

I love being an evil American. I truly hope we exploit more people, not that you'd care -- you wouldn't have any cannon fodder to spew your soundbarks at. So I suppose that the neoconservatives are a good thing - they benefit, and you benefit so you can advance your political agenda.

Is that Red Arrow?

Is that Red Arrow?
No, Red Arrow/MKULTRA/Skapedroe was capable of using sources, no matter how questionable, he at least gave links.

No, Red Arrow/MKULTRA/Skapedroe was capable of using sources, no matter how questionable, he at least gave links.

True enough. Seems a bit familiar in style other than that, though.

You say corporations are evil, yet you are on the net and a computer. You probably have a TV and maybe a satelite or cable. Not to mention a phone and maybe even a cell phone. You probably drive some automobile, buy your food at a store and probably sit down in a coffee shop to drink some coffee.

Hmm if corporations are so evil then you should revert to the 1800's

All of those technologies were developed through state funding. No corporation ever engages in research unless they can socialise the cost of the research or indeed have society insure the cost of research. Research does not always guaruntee desirable results and findings.

True enough. Seems a bit familiar in style other than that, though.
Yeah, certainly a similar style.

Last I checked, the average computer is not made by the military, nor is the average internet service provider with the military.

That's exactly the point. The US gov't developed the technologies and then turned them over to corporate control. Transistors were developed at Bell Laboratories which was a State regulated monopoly at the time, as well as a recipient of state subsidies.

The computer itself was developed in the military.

So, my question is, if taxpayers payed for all this research, why don't they own the end products instead of private corporations? I've never heard of Bill Gates offering to reimburse the gov't the $20 Billion that went into computer and semiconductor research.

All of those technologies were developed through state funding. No corporation ever engages in research unless they can socialise the cost of the research or indeed have society insure the cost of research. Research does not always guaruntee desirable results and findings.
All? You mean food, coffee and automobiles were created with the aid of the state? I thought the first autos were built by Daimler, Maybach and Benz (independently of the other two) in the late eighteen hundreds. If I remember correctly, the government of Germany wasn't involved in the invention.

Television was invented independently of government, if I recall as well. Farnsworth did that I believe.

Corporations do in fact engage in research on their own.

All? You mean food, coffee and automobiles were created with the aid of the state? I thought the first autos were built by Daimler, Maybach and Benz (independently of the other two) in the late eighteen hundreds. If I remember correctly, the government of Germany wasn't involved in the invention.

Television was invented independently of government, if I recall as well. Farnsworth did that I believe.

Corporations do in fact engage in research on their own.

Yep, all. Fuel injection? WWII technology. Food and coffee? Don't be absurd, and don't be willfully ignorant, either. Neither look good on you.

Yep, all. Fuel injection? WWII technology. Food and coffee? Don't be absurd, and don't be willfully ignorant, either. Neither look good on you.
Nor does it on you.

Fuel injection: The first experiments were carried out around 1889 by F.W. Lanchester, an employee of the Forward Gas Engine Company.

Indirect FI was later adapted for use in diesel trucks.

Later developments include introducing it to the mass market, where FI was used in the Mercedes-Benz 300SL in 1955.

An electronic FI system was developed by the Bendix corporation.

But, no matter, I have a test tomorrow morning, so I must go sleep now. Cheerio.

Nor does it on you.

Fuel injection: The first experiments were carried out around 1889 by F.W. Lanchester, an employee of the Forward Gas Engine Company.

Indirect FI was later adapted for use in diesel trucks.

Later developments include introducing it to the mass market, where FI was used in the Mercedes-Benz 300SL in 1955.

An electronic FI system was developed by the Bendix corporation.

When were they broadly implemented in consumer products?

I love being an evil American. I truly hope we exploit more people, not that you'd care -- you wouldn't have any cannon fodder to spew your soundbarks at. So I suppose that the neoconservatives are a good thing - they benefit, and you benefit so you can advance your political agenda.
how does anyone benefit? Bush is losing his trillion dollar war in Iraq cause it was based on lies and the only war that Bush is winning is his war against middle and workingclass Americans

Hey Skap, your news source plz?

Is that Red Arrow?
woof

No, Red Arrow/MKULTRA/Skapedroe was capable of using sources, no matter how questionable, he at least gave links.
but was deated for no apparent reason nonederless :sniper:

Hey Skap, your news source plz?
rofl.
democracynow, obviously.

the internet was developed by our socialist military not corporate parasites


Didn't Al Gore invent the Internet?

Is that Red Arrow?

Happy to see someone else had suspicions too. I'm not the only one! :)

I don't know....the style seems different.

I guess this should come as no surprize to anyone considering that its the neocon agenda to enslave all the worlds people to international corporate fascists-so it would appear that theyre off to a good start. Wonder how long it will take before people we speak to here and in our daily lives become enslaved by these creatures who've turned terrorism into big business and use it as an excuse to destroy Democracy and people power in the world today.
This is not new. I have long been aware of the saddening fact there are 12-15 million slaves in the world today. But by blaming Bush, without any evidence, you merely cheapen the issue. Shame on you.