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The Revolutionary Trotskyist Party

DHomme
12-05-2005, 20:19
oh yeah, thats right. We want a permanent revolution and help to overthrow the corrupt capitalist governments of other internet-based political games.

Look, we have a manifesto!
1)End "free" trade which inevitably leads to poverty and exploitation. Nationalise all industry so that it's under workers' control
2)Legalise all drugs under state control
3)Rebuild the police force and disband the army
4)Bring corporate criminals to trial for their crimes
5)Increase international aid which is drawn from the money we used to spend on the military
6)Structure the payment system based on how hard a person works, how long they work and how many non-workers they need support
7)Support revolutionary trot parties on other web-based political games' forums
8)Complete secularisation of government- legalise euthanasia and polygamy to start with
9)Stamp out fascism through a genius combination of re-education and extreme violenceAlso we must destroy the Cult of Tink party as it is quite clearly proto-fascist
10)Ensure that all human beings have access to shelter, food, water, electricity, clothing and gas
DHomme
12-05-2005, 20:39
Bump.

If anybody has some suggestions to add to the manifesto feel free to
Lacadaemon
12-05-2005, 20:49
oh yeah, thats right. We want a permanent revolution and help to overthrow the corrupt capitalist governments of other internet-based political games.

Look, we have a manifesto!
1)End "free" trade which inevitably leads to poverty and exploitation. Nationalise all industry so that it's under workers' control
2)Legalise all drugs under state control
3)Rebuild the police force and disband the army
4)Bring corporate criminals to trial for their crimes
5)Increase international aid which is drawn from the money we used to spend on the military
6)Structure the payment system based on how hard a person works, how long they work and how many non-workers they need support
7)Support revolutionary trot parties on other web-based political games' forums
8)Complete secularisation of government- legalise euthanasia and polygamy to start with
9)Stamp out fascism through a genius combination of re-education and extreme violenceAlso we must destroy the Cult of Tink party as it is quite clearly proto-fascist
10)Ensure that all human beings have access to shelter, food, water, electricity, clothing and gas

I don't like points 1-10, can you tweak it a bit?
DHomme
12-05-2005, 21:55
hmmmmmmmmm no.

And might I add, bump
Subterranean_Mole_Men
12-05-2005, 22:05
hmmmmmmmmm no.

And might I add, bump
Give up Comrade! Nobody wants to worship a dead russian with a crazy goatee and harry potter glasses! (http://www.optimiz.com/~kunzem/me_images/trotsky.jpg) Join MOBRA (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=418621)! or we'll eat you!
DHomme
12-05-2005, 22:08
Give up Comrade! Nobody wants to worship a dead russian with a crazy goatee and harry potter glasses! (http://www.optimiz.com/~kunzem/me_images/trotsky.jpg) Join MOBDRA (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=418621)! or we'll eat you!

How dare you insult the goatee or the glasses. Both of them are perpetually in style
Pure Metal
12-05-2005, 22:12
Also we must destroy the Cult of Tink party as it is quite clearly proto-fascist
you just lost my vote. sorry buddy.

besides i'm already a member of another commie party on here... dunno if i should be in two, especially as the UDCP opposes violent revolution. other than that i like your ideas...
Subterranean_Mole_Men
12-05-2005, 22:14
How dare you insult the goatee or the glasses. Both of them are perpetually in style
Hmm... Those glasses look pretty thick. Perhaps Mister Trotsky would have fit in well in a subterranean society.
DHomme
12-05-2005, 22:15
Hmm... Those glasses look pretty thick. Perhaps Mister Trotsky would have fit in well in a subterranean society.
I should slap you for even suggesting he would join with you imperialists
Subterranean_Mole_Men
12-05-2005, 22:19
I should slap you for even suggesting he would join with you imperialists
Imperialists!? Our economy revolves around the hunting of grubs, maggots and the occasional "surfacer" who happens to fall into our clutches.
DHomme
12-05-2005, 22:24
Imperialists!? Our economy revolves around the hunting of grubs, maggots and the occasional "surfacer" who happens to fall into our clutches.
I see so you treat them differently because they're from a different area than you? I call that jingoism at it's worst
DHomme
12-05-2005, 22:27
you just lost my vote. sorry buddy.

besides i'm already a member of another commie party on here... dunno if i should be in two, especially as the UDCP opposes violent revolution. other than that i like your ideas...

We must smash the elitist Tinkites who are little more than the vanguards of the middle class
Subterranean_Mole_Men
12-05-2005, 22:34
I see so you treat them differently because they're from a different area than you? I call that jingoism at it's worst
Of couse we don't want to have to eat surface dwellers like yourself, but what choice do you leave us if you refuse to join us in the tunnels? :confused:
Phylum Chordata
13-05-2005, 00:59
1)End "free" trade which inevitably leads to poverty and exploitation. Yes, damn those Japanese. It wasn't free trade which lead to the incredible economic growth of Japan. It was the superpowers they gained from the radiation from atomic bombs. Notice how their economy is slowing down now that the superpowered generation is retiring?
Greater Valia
13-05-2005, 01:05
Shit! ANOTHER sub-Communist idealology? Im already having headaches from trying to keep up with the 30 or so that already exist without you inventing a new one! Besides, you might get a better response if you start a Yahoo! group, post it in your blog/Livejournal, or better yet start a school club because we all know that there arent enough middle class communists running around our public school system.
Pure Metal
13-05-2005, 01:15
Shit! ANOTHER sub-Communist idealology? Im already having headaches from trying to keep up with the 30 or so that already exist without you inventing a new one! Besides, you might get a better response if you start a Yahoo! group, post it in your blog/Livejournal, or better yet start a school club because we all know that there arent enough middle class communists running around our public school system.
its part of this http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=418608
Greater Valia
13-05-2005, 01:30
its part of this http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=418608

Curses
Subterranean_Mole_Men
13-05-2005, 01:41
Curses
Psst..

Hey...

We don't like the goatee sporting wizard either...

join our party (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=418621), you'll be glad you did.
Pure Metal
13-05-2005, 01:45
Psst..

Hey...

We don't like the goatee sporting wizard either...

join our party (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=418621), you'll be glad you did.
join the UDCP (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=418610). you know you want to, comrade ;)

and "goatee sporting wizard" :confused:
Beth Gellert
13-05-2005, 01:46
Is this going to end with me getting excited and joining a Soviet then getting killed by some Chekists who aren't really interested in progress so much as changing who wields power? I suppose it might be a good way to go, all barricades and futility.

No, anyway, what I'm wondering is... why Trotskyist? Why Trotskyists while promoting an agenda that does away with the military, given that Trotsky's was clearly a military mind driven in much of his ideology by his assessment of military mistakes and mercy in the past? That he sent the Red Army against true Soviets and had them killed?

Shouldn't you be something other than Trotskyist?

I'm an advocate of communism, and I'm not about to get up and support either a) Bolsheviks, or b) people prepared to use their name like it won't matter... you're looking for a fight on two fronts without being right. This looks like a wishy washy Social Democratic Party or such appeasement.

I say embrace progress wholly or not at all.
Andaluciae
13-05-2005, 01:51
1)End "free" trade which inevitably leads to poverty and exploitation. Nationalise all industry so that it's under workers' control
2)Legalise all drugs under state control
3)Rebuild the police force and disband the army
4)Bring corporate criminals to trial for their crimes
5)Increase international aid which is drawn from the money we used to spend on the military
6)Structure the payment system based on how hard a person works, how long they work and how many non-workers they need support
7)Support revolutionary trot parties on other web-based political games' forums
8)Complete secularisation of government- legalise euthanasia and polygamy to start with
9)Stamp out fascism through a genius combination of re-education and extreme violenceAlso we must destroy the Cult of Tink party as it is quite clearly proto-fascist
10)Ensure that all human beings have access to shelter, food, water, electricity, clothing and gas
1.) No
2.) Part yes, part no
3.) No, no
4.) Short of the people being actual criminals (embezzling, murder, etc.), no.
5.) Other countries ought to be able to take care of themselves.
6.) No.
7.) No
8.) Maybe, I'm still mulling this one over.
9.) Fuck no.
10.) No.
Subterranean_Mole_Men
13-05-2005, 01:52
and "goatee sporting wizard" :confused:
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=8864330&postcount=5
Moleland
13-05-2005, 11:29
*gives Mole_Men several cookies for excellant work here!*
Alien Born
17-06-2005, 18:11
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=426484
DHomme
17-06-2005, 18:29
Woah, use the other RTP link. This one dead. it's in my siggy somewhere