NationStates Jolt Archive

This is from the NS General political parties: start your own party! (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=418608) thread. Here, you can join the party, debate the manifesto, etc. If anyone would like to create a logo, motto, or whatever, this would be the place to suggest it. Our current manifesto is:
We are a fun party which are primarily concerned with civil rights issues. Here is where we stand on some of the issues:
Abortion
Not nessecarily for or against, but definitely pro-choice.
Death Penalty
For, in extreme cases such as murder, rape, etc.
Drugs
Though we certainly do not encourage drug use/abuse in any way, we are very much for the legalisation of any and all drugs, as long as they are used in the privacy of one's own home. However, if one were to show up to work intoxicated, their employer would be well within thier writes to fire them on the spot.
Educational System
All peoples should have the right to a free public education if desired. Religion should be kept out of a public schooling curriculum unless it caters to all religions. Dress codes/school uniforms should not exist; students should be able to express themselves through their choice of clothing, or lack thereof.
Gay Marriage
For
Freedom of Speech
Freedom of Speech is extremely important to the GHOAST party. Our policy is that one can say whatever they wish to say and still be within their rights, but any act of physical violence will result in strict punishment of all those who actually acted.
Human/Pet Marriage
For
Pet/Pet Marriage
For
Rapists
Convicted rapists will be castrated, tortured (for up to 12 months), and put to death.
Right to Bear Arms
Though we do not encourage gun violence, we are FOR the right to own and carry guns for non-felons, and defend oneself if attacked.

If you add that all non-felons can own and carry guns, I'd join.

If you add that all non-felons can own and carry guns, I'd join.

But of course!

Emmm... I'm against guns (long haired pacifist here), so can't join (since when hippies support guns?)

Emmm... I'm against guns (long haired pacifist here), so can't join (since when hippies support guns?)
I think the idea behind the party is that we're free to do anything up until the point where we actually cross the line and hurt someone else.

I think the idea behind the party is that we're free to do anything up until the point where we actually cross the line and hurt someone else.

Yeah agreed, but carrying gus is just asking for violence, isn't it? What's the point of haveing in the first place if they are not intendet to use, well but when you "cross the line you hurt someone"...

Goths and Hippies against stereotypes?

I thought these are examples of living stereotypes.

Individuality people, don't just follow the similarly-dressed crowd.

And I don't get how hippies would support the right to bear arms.

Nor why hippies (lefties) would be in the same party as goths (righties).

Surely this is stereotyping both as being socially excluded ways of life...?

Yeah agreed, but carrying gus is just asking for violence, isn't it? What's the point of haveing in the first place if they are not intendet to use, well but when you "cross the line you hurt someone"...
It isn't just asking for violence. I carry a gun every day (and I'm not in law enforcement), and I haven't shot anyone.

I've even had people attempt to rob me (three times), and I haven't shot anyone. I wasn't robbed, either. Worked out quite nicely.

If I'm not harming anyone, and haven't harmed anyone, then I haven't committed a crime.

Think about it from a drugs perspective. If someone smokes pot on the street corner, he isn't hurting anyone. He could even sell it - and I still don't see the harm. If it was legal, there wouldn't be any violence involved, because he would be running a legitimate business. Make drugs illegal, and the turf wars start.

So I say that the man who markets pot and smokes it should be free to do that. Until and unless someone gets hurt. And perhaps we can even see where a heroin dealer should be free to sell - one might even say that if an addict gets an overdose and dies, if the dealer was selling a known concentration of heroin, then the addict engaged in self-harm, and the dealer is not to blame.

In my case, I'm free to carry the gun. I am not walking around shooting people for the hell of it. But, if I'm attacked, I may defend myself. If I end up shooting someone, the case must be reviewed to see if I was being malicious, or failing to use good judgment. But if I was legitimately defending myself, then the attacker is engaged in self-harm, and I am not to blame.