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Just out of curiosity, please answer the poll. After that, feel free to talk about meat - hey, you could even post your favorite recipies or meals here ;)

I eat meat (mmh - yum yum) but try to still have a balanced and healthy diet (should eat more vegetables and fruits though, yes, I know!).

It's just not a real meal if some kind of dead animal isn't served.

Count one vegan here.

It's just not a real meal if some kind of dead animal isn't served.

Yeah, I know that feeling: You're at a table full of veggies and so forth but the roast just won't be served...

(BTW: I already screwed up my own poll by multiple voting for 4 & 5 days :D )

I have meat pretty much every day in at least one of my meals. And I'm happy about it. Humans are omnivores, so I eat everything.

Count one vegan here.

Does that include not even wearing a wool sweater?

fillet tournados in a madeira and wild mushroom sauce stuffed with wild rice and carmelised schnappes marinaded peaches is my fave to cook (takes flucking days but YUM! thanks Grandma :D )

damn I think I just figured out why my other half always insists on xmas at mine :|

It's just not a real meal if some kind of dead animal isn't served.
hell yeah. meat tastes too good not to eat, dispite any "ethical" or "religious" reasons not to...

Does that include not even wearing a wool sweater?

Nope. However I consume non-animal based non-food products in preference to animal based ones.

@ Morteee: Count me in this Xmas :p (<- this is the only smily that looks like s.th. made its mouth water!)

@ Bodies Without Organs: Sounds fine w/ me ;) (Thank goodness for synthetics, huh?)

then I hate to tell you this but you are not a true vegan - sorry :(

I said about once a week, though its usually fish. I hardly ever eat beef and such.

The big problem I see with meat is just the fact that its environmentally much more destructive and unsustainable than a vegetarian diet. I can get the same calories in proteing from soy beans for less land, enery, and pollution, than I can from a cow. I have no use for the I-don't-want-to-hurt-animals arguments vegetarians favour, though.

vegetarian here - and no leather either. Nothing where they die.

@ Morteee: Count me in this Xmas :p (<- this is the only smily that looks like s.th. made its mouth water!)


if I had the room at my place you would be more than welcome I LOVE to cook for large numbers of people - tis funnage and of course a glass or two of good wine makes it even more fun :D

Nope. However I consume non-animal based non-food products in preference to animal based ones.
I'm with you brother ;)

oh and a question for the vegans - do you drink beer?

If we're not supposed to eat animals then why are they made out of meat?

I'm an accidental vegitarian. I just stopped eating meat a few months ago. And haven't really started again.

Probably technically be a vegan too, but I occasionally eat milk, cheese and eggs.

Meat is delicious. Whale meat especially.

then I hate to tell you this but you are not a true vegan - sorry :(

Take it up with the Vegan Society: they were the first vegan organisation in the world, have been in operation over 60 years, and were founded by the people that invented the word (Elsie Shrigley and Donald Watson).

The Vegan Society states:

"A vegan therefore eats a plant-based diet free from all animal products, including milk, eggs and honey. Most vegans do not wear leather, wool or silk."

Elsewhere they use this definition:

"The word 'veganism' denotes a philosophy and way of living which seeks to exclude — as far as is possible and practical — all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals for food, clothing or any other purpose; and by extension, promotes the development and use of animal-free alternatives for the benefit of animals, including humans and the environment."


Emboldening added by me.

oh and a question for the vegans - do you drink beer?Bacteria are not animals, technically. They are on an entirely a seperate branch on the tree of life, in the prokaryotic kingdom.

Another factor is the sometime prohibative COST of meat. Kosher meat, particularly.

I eat meat.
My favorites- -lightly grilled flank steak-cooked extremely rare
-grilled lamb-cooked extremely rare.
-tuna steaks-very rare, squeeze of lemon
-carpaccio w/red onions,capers and olive oil

"The word 'veganism' denotes a philosophy and way of living which seeks to exclude — as far as is possible and practical — all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals for food, clothing or any other purpose; and by extension, promotes the development and use of animal-free alternatives for the benefit of animals, including humans and the environment."


Emboldening added by me.

Its impractical/impossible for an Irishperson not to get drunk?

oh and a question for the vegans - do you drink beer?

Yup. Mines a Carlsberg.

Take it up with the Vegan Society: they were the first vegan organisation in the world, have been in operation over 60 years, and were founded by the people that invented the word (Elsie Shrigley and Donald Watson).

The Vegan Society states:

"A vegan therefore eats a plant-based diet free from all animal products, including milk, eggs and honey. Most vegans do not wear leather, wool or silk."

Elsewhere they use this definition:

"The word 'veganism' denotes a philosophy and way of living which seeks to exclude — as far as is possible and practical — all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals for food, clothing or any other purpose; and by extension, promotes the development and use of animal-free alternatives for the benefit of animals, including humans and the environment."


Emboldening added by me.

I understand not using leather products. By why wool? The animals arent slaughtered-the same animals continue to produce wool and are shorn for years.

Bacteria are not animals, technically. They are on an entirely a seperate branch on the tree of life, in the prokaryotic kingdom.


Yup. Mines a Carlsberg.


no but the finings (sometimes called isenglaas) used to clarify ALL beers and most wines except cloudy wheat beer are made from the swim bladder of the Sturgeon which means every time you drink ANY clear beer or most wines you are consuming an animal product - something the brewing industry keeps extremely quiet for many many reasons

I'm surprized that most people eat meat every day!! This is quite the revelation.
I can't help but think that that's not too healthy.

Meat is delicious. Whale meat especially.


that is one meat I havent yet tasted.

that is one meat I havent yet tasted.

You should try some. There's nothing quite like it. Not that I have tasted, anyway.

I'm surprized that most people eat meat every day!! This is quite the revelation.
I can't help but think that that's not too healthy.
The human body has evolved to eat a wide variety of diets and function just fine. Look at eskimos. They eat nothing but fish and meat. As long as you get the required vitamins and minerals and you don't over indulge, you'll be ok.

@ Morteee: I know what you mean! As much as I love cooking (yes, I know how to although I'm a guy ;) ) it's not as much fun if you're doing it all for yourself (or your better half which went "grocery shopping" about half a year ago and never came back...). The good glass of red wine is with me right now. And some good ol' cheese from Amsterdam - mmh!

@ Kreitzmoorland: If they could make soybean-stuff taste like the real deal I'd reconsider - but have you ever tried to have a good BBQ with soy stuff? Didn't work for me.

@ Kevlanakia: Never tried it - but as whales live like any other game their meat should be about the best you can have, if there were only more whales left...

Bacteria in beer?!?!? Oh sweet Lord, I really hope that you just mixed it up with yeast - my beer ought to be bacteria-free!!!

no but the finings (sometimes called isenglaas) used to clarify ALL beers and most wines except cloudy wheat beer are made from the swim bladder of the Sturgeon which means every time you drink ANY clear beer or most wines you are consuming an animal product - something the brewing industry keeps extremely quiet for many many reasons

Incorrect. Not all beers are produced using isinglas.

Frex, here's a list of vegan beers produced in the USA.

http://veganconnection.com/veganbeer.htm

no but the finings (sometimes called isenglaas) used to clarify ALL beers and most wines except cloudy wheat beer are made from the swim bladder of the Sturgeon which means every time you drink ANY clear beer or most wines you are consuming an animal product - something the brewing industry keeps extremely quiet for many many reasonsI had no idea. That's quite interesting, though I find it unlikely that theure's no synthetic material that could do the same thing. I'd imagine that Sturgeon swim bladders are a bit of a mess to deal with.

Bacteria are not animals, technically. They are on an entirely a seperate branch on the tree of life, in the prokaryotic kingdom.

While it is quite true that bacteria are completely seperate from eukaryotes such as...well, everything except bacteria, it must be pointed out that yeast in a fungal growth, hence a eukaryote. However, this particular fact has no bearing on beer drinking since fungi are a completely separate kingdom to animals. I think the question was aimed at the animal products that go into beer, as posted above.

no but the finings (sometimes called isenglaas) used to clarify ALL beers and most wines except cloudy wheat beer are made from the swim bladder of the Sturgeon which means every time you drink ANY clear beer or most wines you are consuming an animal product - something the brewing industry keeps extremely quiet for many many reasons

No, not all beers. Several don't use them. You just need a good vegan guide.

I'm surprized that most people eat meat every day!! This is quite the revelation.
I can't help but think that that's not too healthy.


I eat lean, well trimmed meats. I dont eat any ground meats, unless I grind them myself. I do eat vegetables/fruits/legumes as well. I exercise regulary. My cholesterol is low.

Incorrect. Not all beers are produced using isinglas.

Frex, here's a list of vegan beers produced in the USA.

http://veganconnection.com/veganbeer.htm
I notice Flying Fish and Riverhorse aren't listed. I've been drinking fishbeer! Cool.

I had no idea. That's quite interesting...

Interesting but untrue.

I'm surprized that most people eat meat every day!! This is quite the revelation.
I can't help but think that that's not too healthy.

Only if you eat nothing but meat everyday.

While it is quite true that bacteria are completely seperate from eukaryotes such as...well, everything except bacteria, it must be pointed out that yeast in a fungal growth, hence a eukaryote. However, this particular fact has no bearing on beer drinking since fungi are a completely separate kingdom to animals. I think the question was aimed at the animal products that go into beer, as posted above.I'm sorry, I made a confusing post. The Yeast in beer is a fungus: hence in the kingdom of Fungi. Bacteria and bluegreen algea are really the only prokaryotes. All other single-celled organisms are either Archea or real Eukaryotes. I'm uncertain as to weather alchoholic drinks have any bacteria in them, but its seems likely.

I love meat, its so tasty, I like veal, Im not too proud of that though, Im trying to cut down on veal consumption.

I'm sorry, I made a confusing post. The Yeast in beer is a fungus: hence in the kingdom of Fungi. Bacteria and bluegreen algea are really the only prokaryotes. All other single-celled organisms are either Archea or real Eukaryotes. I'm uncertain as to weather alchoholic drinks have any bacteria in them, but its seems likely.
No because the bacteria are highly intolerant to the ethanol produced by the yeast as a by-product of the anaerobic respiration necessary for fermentation. Bacteria die, yeast are a little more tolerant. I imagine some bacteria can survive, but it isn't deliberate.

Come to think of it - I don't even wanna know how much cholesterol in stuck in my blood vessels...

I'm quite amazed at the outcome of the poll myself (but then again, if 2 out of 3 main meals are meatless and the meat only consists of a slice of sausage on bread, it's meat and yet still not unhealthy ;) )

*looks up veal* - Oh! Yeah, I know. Mmh. Veal liverwurst. (Do you really say "wurst"?!?)

um to the vegans disputing this - I did say except wheat beers (or coudy beers) which ARE by definition the ONLY truely vegan beer - and yes I know I am correct in this - I work in the brewing industry and have just completed the LVA (Licensed victuallers association) Beer academy (yup I passed woohoo I am formally qualified to drink beer ;) ) This course included presentations from brewers from Coors, Marsdons, Green King, Interbrew and Carlsberg tetley and ALL of them said the same thing - Th only substance that effectively removes the cloudiness in beer (caused by yeast and other particles) is finings which is essentially the swim bladder of the sturgeon - many synthetic alternatives have been developed and tried but they are either ineffective compared to finings or taint the taste of the beer

sorry guys this time you are wrong

Incorrect. Not all beers are produced using isinglas.

Frex, here's a list of vegan beers produced in the USA.

http://veganconnection.com/veganbeer.htm

LMFAO Green king are on that list???!!!

well I wa talking to their head brewer less than a month ago and they use Finings (as we call it in the UK) in ALL of their beers

as do Youngs and Whitbread

and that is a list of BREWERS not Beers

Count one vegan here.


Seconded! :)

The human body has evolved to eat a wide variety of diets and function just fine. Look at eskimos. They eat nothing but fish and meat. As long as you get the required vitamins and minerals and you don't over indulge, you'll be ok.True. As long as you balance your diet and excercise and such, you're fine. But most people don't. The Inuit (and probably all natives) consumed much less food than we do today, and though it was high in fat, they had to expend ALOT more energy than we're accustomed to. They probably have slightly different metabolisms thatn your average european too. Anyway, it all works out.

sorry guys this time you are wrong


http://www.btinternet.com/~p.g.h/vegan_beer_list.htm

http://www.merchantduvin.com/pages/5_breweries/ss_vegansoc_letter.gif

Honestly, this is the first time that I have ever heard of sturgeons put to another use except for caviar.

And I always thought that according to the German purity law of beer brewery nothing but water, malt, hop, and yeast goes into German beer. (And that law has been persistant since 1516 and never changed except for the time that science identified yeast as a major ingredience at the end of the 19th century.)

the lists you are producing here are total rubbish in the main - the list here
http://veganconnection.com/veganbeer.htm
has at least 15 brewers I KNOW use finings - I sell the damn stuff for a living for gods sake I HAVE to know what goes in it!

if you are truely going to be vegan (a choice I respect as I have family members that are vegan) at least make sure you know what you are consuming

ALL cask and keg ales and lagers have finings added - they are an essential part of the brewing process - the vast majority of wine producers also use finings - the only exceptions I know to this are wheat beers (also known as cloudy beers) and they are the only ones that will officially go on record as being fully vagen

True. As long as you balance your diet and excercise and such, you're fine. But most people don't. The Inuit (and probably all natives) consumed much less food than we do today, and though it was high in fat, they had to expend ALOT more energy than we're accustomed to. They probably have slightly different metabolisms thatn your average european too. Anyway, it all works out.


Yep. I dont eat as much as I used to. When food is available and plentiful, you get into the bad habit of overeating-usually 100% more than you need. I eat very little starch. I'm not on a special diet,it just doesnt appeal to me.
I also eat foods high in fiber and drink plenty of water. Some type of fruit accompanies most meals in my house. I drink plenty of water and have a couple of yogurts a week. You have to keep the elimination process smooth and regular. If it isnt, you're doing something wrong.

Honestly, this is the first time that I have ever heard of sturgeons put to another use except for caviar.

And I always thought that according to the German purity law of beer brewery nothing but water, malt, hop, and yeast goes into German beer. (And that law has been persistant since 1516 and never changed except for the time that science identified yeast as a major ingredience at the end of the 19th century.)

we covered that sticky area in the course and most of the beers produced in Germany are wheat or white beers which have no finings added - there are however some german brewers that do add finings

no but the finings (sometimes called isenglaas) used to clarify ALL beers and most wines except cloudy wheat beer are made from the swim bladder of the Sturgeon which means every time you drink ANY clear beer or most wines you are consuming an animal product

ALL cask and keg ales and lagers have finings added - they are an essential part of the brewing process - the vast majority of wine producers also use finings - the only exceptions I know to this are wheat beers (also known as cloudy beers) and they are the only ones that will officially go on record as being fully vagen


Step down here: first it was "ALL beers", now it's "ALL cask and keg ales and lagers"?

Yep. I dont eat as much as I used to. When food is available and plentiful, you get into the bad habit of overeating-usually 100% more than you need. Have you heard of that study they did on rats that showed that when their caloric intake was severely reduced (like 50%) they lived significantly longer? I'm not advocating near-starvation, and this may not be the same in humans, but there's definately strong evidence to support the concept of overusing your metabolism. Keeping it sparse and simple is probably better in the long run.

I personally would rather enjoy my food and not be too stressed out over it, but then I've never had heath or weight issues of any sort, and come from a heath-freakish family. Its really very easy.

I haven't heard of it but I'm willing to believe it - every ounce you add to your body unneccessarily can't be good ;)

Step down here: first it was "ALL beers", now it's "ALL cask and keg ales and lagers"?

not a step down at all - the vast majority of beer is produced using the same brewing methond - that method only changes slightly when storing in a bottle as opposed to a keg or cask - I am not attacking veganism here just merely pointing out that alot of vegans/vegetarians do not know what finings are made of and therefore need to be aware - please dont try to be personal all I am trying to do is point out a possible unknown pitfall in your chosen way of life

Come to think of it: Has anyone ever tried insects?

And I do not mean what's drowned in a tequila bottle, the fly you've swallowed while riding a bike (I've had two already this year...) or the earthworm or ant you ate as a dare.

If insect protein could (or would) be processed in a way that pork or beef are turned into food today, I don't believe I'd have any objections. It's just that I still have a weird feeling about eating grasshoppers or mealworms...

When we have a locust infestation, I'll let you know. (They're even kosher! WHooooo!)

...and crunchy. And even sweet if dipped into chocolate. (*runs to fridge, grabs chocolate, munches away* <- this is really gonna be good for my daily calorie-intake!)

100% omnivor, nature created me to eat just about everything including meat which i consume on a daily basis.
:D

100% omnivor, nature created me to eat just about everything including meat which i consume on a daily basis.
:D
Good for you! (Somedays I'm just too lazy to eat meat...)

Basically, I've resisted long enough.

read this or go to hell (http://maddox.xmission.com/sponsor.html)

Does that incline that after I've read it I won't go to hell?!?

Basically, I've resisted long enough.
actually i have a better one from the same source:
vegitarians say they don't eat meat because they want to save the animals, unfortunately thier vegitarian(and even vegan) habits kill animals as well-
http://maddox.xmission.com/grill.html

not a step down at all - the vast majority of beer is produced using the same brewing methond - that method only changes slightly when storing in a bottle as opposed to a keg or cask - I am not attacking veganism here just merely pointing out that alot of vegans/vegetarians do not know what finings are made of and therefore need to be aware - please dont try to be personal all I am trying to do is point out a possible unknown pitfall in your chosen way of life

I agree that not all vegetarians/vegans (nor omnivores, for that matter) know about the use of isinglas or other animal products in brewing, however the fact remains that not all non-wheat keg/cask beers use isinglas.

You people SICKEN me!

You meat eaters will all die from cholesteral and cancer, while my vegan friends will inherit the earth.

Imagine the pain of those animals that had their sould sacrafised for that steak you are eating.

You meat eaters are among the lowest in society, only above the Conservatives.

Gah!

The South Islands
You meat eaters will all die from cholesteral and cancer, while my vegan friends will inherit the earth.
not neccisarily true. there are things in meat that the body requires to survive. nature made us this way. (bad)cholesteral is a matter of dieting habits. eating meat does not automatically equal bad cholesterol. cancer has many sources, eating properly prepared meat is notone of them.


Imagine the pain of those animals that had their sould sacrafised for that steak you are eating.
to quote from my link since you obviously didn't read it

every year millions of animals are killed by wheat and soy bean combines during harvesting season. Oh yeah, go on and on for hours about how all of us meat eaters are going to hell for having a steak, but conveniently ignore the fact that each year millions of mice, rabbits, snakes, skunks, possums, squirrels, gophers and rats are ruthlessly murdered as a direct result of YOUR dieting habits.

there is some irony for you :D

Basically, I've resisted long enough.

read this or go to hell (http://maddox.xmission.com/sponsor.html)
actually i have a better one from the same source:
vegitarians say they don't eat meat because they want to save the animals, unfortunately thier vegitarian(and even vegan) habits kill animals as well-
http://maddox.xmission.com/grill.html
damn you both! I was going to post those!

"Oh yeah, go on and on for hours about how all of us meat eaters are going to hell for having a steak "


there is some irony for you :D

Point out to me where in the thread anyone has done so? Seems to me like you're evoking a strawman, and someone else's at that.

I try not to eat mammals. Mainly because beef (especially steak) and pork are nasty-tasting. I can't stand them. Also, they tend to have higher average intelligence.

Point out to me where in the thread anyone has done so? Seems to me like you're evoking a strawman, and someone else's at that.
He didn't say that, Maddox did.

If we're not supposed to eat animals then why are they made out of meat?

You beat me to it this time!!

I eat meat whenever I wish. Sometimes, this will be only once a week, or even every day of the week.

I eat anything that's good, really.

I'm ovetarian

If we're not supposed to eat animals then why are they made out of meat?
heh, a couple of years ago me and my brother made up a couple of variations to this, but the only one I can think of now is If we don't eat the animals, the animals will eat us, and that's not a very good one :p

heh, a couple of years ago me and my brother made up a couple of variations to this, but the only one I can think of now is If we don't eat the animals, the animals will eat us, and that's not a very good one :p

I dunno, man, I know a few people who would be better off being eaten by animals ;).

Anyway, the way I see it is: Animals eat other animals. We eat almost all animals, because we're at the top of the food chain. If you wanna eat nothing but fruits and vegetables, that's fine with me. Just don't go pushing people around because they eat meat!

I try not to eat mammals. Mainly because beef (especially steak) and pork are nasty-tasting. I can't stand them. Also, they tend to have higher average intelligence.

I can't speak for pigs, but cows are very, very dumb critters.
My uncle in Slovakia is a farmer, and I've spent months on the farm. Horses, cats, & dogs are much smarter. Probably parrots too. I'd not rate a cow too much ahead of a rabbit.

My favorite meats:

Porterhouse steak: It's a large T-bone steak that is cut from the end with the biggest filet. You are basically getting Sirlion and Filet mignon. I know the gourmets like it rare, but I prefer it cooked medium - that way you get a sampling of textures and tastes. It's blackened on the outside and then gives way to juicy pink and hopefully a strip of bloody red at the center. Wonderful.

Atlantic Blue Crab: I would say that of all the shellfish in the world, the Blue Crab IMO is the most delicious. On the East Coast it is usually steamed in either Old Bay seasoning or just black pepper. It is unbelievable. Ambrosia. I prefer it with an ice-cold Beck's beer.

Roast Turkey: Awesome. Could eat it once a week. Stuffing, Pumpkin pie, mashed potatoes and gravy. MMMMMM!

Southern Fried Chicken: No, not like the Colonel's... Like how your Grandma made it. Fresh chicken. Soaked in buttermilk. Fried in a big cast-iron pan. Biscuits. Corn on the cob. Coleslaw. Heaven on Earth.

I may not live as long as the typical Vegan, but by God I am going to enjoy myself till the end.

I may not live as long as the typical Vegan, but by God I am going to enjoy myself till the end.

Exactly!

As I have stated before s.wh. on NS, those people who refrain from eating meat can only make that choice because s.t. back in the past our species decided to eat meat and grow some brains along with it. Manking wouldn't have survived hadn't we become omnivores, so I find it quite interesting that people actually stopped eating meat because their brains enable them to make that conscious decision.
Even chimps enjoy meat ever so often ;)

i'm a postmodern vegatarian. i eat meat, 'ironically'

He didn't say that, Maddox did.

Yup. Therefore the words "someone elses's".

Cows are intelligent? Southpark set aside, I've seen much that leads to another conclusion. I mean, even horses are stupid: When it starts raining all the "horse girls" used to drive to the pastures to place the horses in the shelter - every other animal would've gone there by themselves.

The only "intelligent" domestic animal is indeed the pig (and if I had to kill it the whole meat-eating story might look different as long as I'm not hungry enough for a Viennese Schnitzel - just the thought of it makes my mouth water!)

Yet again - I don't see anything wrong with eating meat, even it was only for the taste of it: That is something I wouldn't wanna do without :p

ALL cask and keg ales and lagers have finings added - they are an essential part of the brewing process - the vast majority of wine producers also use finings - the only exceptions I know to this are wheat beers (also known as cloudy beers) and they are the only ones that will officially go on record as being fully vagen
This might be true in your country but not everywhere else. In Finland they use e.g. diatomete.

And notice that almost all beers made in Finland are vegan. And about 90% (I have to admit it's just a guess, but if I'd check it out I'm pretty sure that the actual percentage would be even higher) of Finnish beer is lager.

My favorite meats:

Porterhouse steak: It's a large T-bone steak that is cut from the end with the biggest filet. You are basically getting Sirlion and Filet mignon. I know the gourmets like it rare, but I prefer it cooked medium - that way you get a sampling of textures and tastes. It's blackened on the outside and then gives way to juicy pink and hopefully a strip of bloody red at the center. Wonderful.

Atlantic Blue Crab: I would say that of all the shellfish in the world, the Blue Crab IMO is the most delicious. On the East Coast it is usually steamed in either Old Bay seasoning or just black pepper. It is unbelievable. Ambrosia. I prefer it with an ice-cold Beck's beer.

Roast Turkey: Awesome. Could eat it once a week. Stuffing, Pumpkin pie, mashed potatoes and gravy. MMMMMM!

Southern Fried Chicken: No, not like the Colonel's... Like how your Grandma made it. Fresh chicken. Soaked in buttermilk. Fried in a big cast-iron pan. Biscuits. Corn on the cob. Coleslaw. Heaven on Earth.

I may not live as long as the typical Vegan, but by God I am going to enjoy myself till the end.

Thanks-Now I'm starving again. And have a drool issue to contend with.

Thanks-Now I'm starving again. And have a drool issue to contend with.
idem dito :p

and now dinner will be pork ribs on the grill, fries and cole slaw

i'm a postmodern vegatarian. i eat meat, 'ironically'That made me laugh. Alot.

My favorite meats:

Porterhouse steak: It's a large T-bone steak that is cut from the end with the biggest filet. You are basically getting Sirlion and Filet mignon. I know the gourmets like it rare, but I prefer it cooked medium - that way you get a sampling of textures and tastes. It's blackened on the outside and then gives way to juicy pink and hopefully a strip of bloody red at the center. Wonderful.

Atlantic Blue Crab: I would say that of all the shellfish in the world, the Blue Crab IMO is the most delicious. On the East Coast it is usually steamed in either Old Bay seasoning or just black pepper. It is unbelievable. Ambrosia. I prefer it with an ice-cold Beck's beer.

Roast Turkey: Awesome. Could eat it once a week. Stuffing, Pumpkin pie, mashed potatoes and gravy. MMMMMM!

Southern Fried Chicken: No, not like the Colonel's... Like how your Grandma made it. Fresh chicken. Soaked in buttermilk. Fried in a big cast-iron pan. Biscuits. Corn on the cob. Coleslaw. Heaven on Earth.

I may not live as long as the typical Vegan, but by God I am going to enjoy myself till the end.

Come cook for me.
Though I must insist on one little change. I eat my steak BLOODY!
Run the cow past a lighter.

My favorite meats:

Porterhouse steak: It's a large T-bone steak that is cut from the end with the biggest filet. You are basically getting Sirlion and Filet mignon. I know the gourmets like it rare, but I prefer it cooked medium - that way you get a sampling of textures and tastes. It's blackened on the outside and then gives way to juicy pink and hopefully a strip of bloody red at the center. Wonderful.

Atlantic Blue Crab: I would say that of all the shellfish in the world, the Blue Crab IMO is the most delicious. On the East Coast it is usually steamed in either Old Bay seasoning or just black pepper. It is unbelievable. Ambrosia. I prefer it with an ice-cold Beck's beer.

Roast Turkey: Awesome. Could eat it once a week. Stuffing, Pumpkin pie, mashed potatoes and gravy. MMMMMM!

Southern Fried Chicken: No, not like the Colonel's... Like how your Grandma made it. Fresh chicken. Soaked in buttermilk. Fried in a big cast-iron pan. Biscuits. Corn on the cob. Coleslaw. Heaven on Earth.

I may not live as long as the typical Vegan, but by God I am going to enjoy myself till the end.


Barbarians...*pukes*

Come cook for me.
Though I must insist on one little change. I eat my steak BLOODY!
Run the cow past a lighter.


I agree. I'll eat a nice flank steak raw

Every single day I eat meat. I can't imagine not having some kind of meat in my meal every day.

I'm a vegematarian (or as my uncle calls me,a vegetablererarnian). I'd say I don't have a problem with peoplewho eat meat, especially - it's their choice. I just have an issue with people who eat meat and:

a) Only eat certain types of meat, e.g. only fish, or not rabbit, because they're "cute".
b) Don't acknowledge that they're ending the life of a sentient creature, sometimes in a painful manner.
c) Protest against hunting, etc.
d) Use the "I'm an omnivore" argument, or attempt to justify their position with anything other than the "I prefer eating meat to not killing animals" stance.

I've also got a problem with the "omnivore" argument. phisiologically humans are built to eat meat once or twice a week; and even then as a side dish not a main course.

personally i really don't care what other people eat, but you should really know what you are talking about if you use a point to support your arugment.

Besides the common ones (cow, pork, chicken, turkey & fish):

Alligator
Boar
Buffalo
Duck
Eel
Elk
Emu
Kangaroo
Moose
Ostrich
Pheasant
Rabbit
Venison (deer)
Quail

d) Use the "I'm an omnivore" argument, or attempt to justify their position with anything other than the "I prefer eating meat to not killing animals" stance.
And vegetarians don't kill animals? WRONG! read this, again. http://maddox.xmission.com/grill.html

And vegetarians don't kill animals? WRONG! read this, again. http://maddox.xmission.com/grill.html

Hahahahahahahaha. I love Maddox.

Besides the common ones (cow, pork, chicken, turkey & fish):

Alligator
Buffalo
Duck
Elk
Emu
Kangaroo
Moose
Ostrich
Pheasant
Rabbit
Venison (deer)
Quail

Me too- Plus: Frogs legs, rattlesnake, snapping turtle, black bear,antelope, eel, conch, squid, octopus and blowfish,wild boar,possum.
Squirrel too on a survival outing.

I also had a steak once that I was told was lion meat. I dont know if its true, but dont knowwhat else it could have been either.

Me too- Plus: Frogs legs, rattlesnake, snapping turtle, black bear,antelope, eel, conch, squid, octopus and blowfish,wild boar,possum.
Squirrel too on a survival outing.

I also had a steak once that I was told was lion meat. I dont know if its true, but dont knowwhat else it could have been either.
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I forgot eel & boar! :D

The poll didn't have an option for 'only fish'.

I eat fish maybe once a month, on average. Other than that, no meat. I am as healthy now as I ever was back when I used to eat red meat, chicken etc., which is to say I rarely get sick (touching wood).

I said about once a week, though its usually fish. I hardly ever eat beef and such.

The big problem I see with meat is just the fact that its environmentally much more destructive and unsustainable than a vegetarian diet. I can get the same calories in proteing from soy beans for less land, enery, and pollution, than I can from a cow. I have no use for the I-don't-want-to-hurt-animals arguments vegetarians favour, though.

That is my reasoning too.

Come to think of it: Has anyone ever tried insects?

And I do not mean what's drowned in a tequila bottle, the fly you've swallowed while riding a bike (I've had two already this year...) or the earthworm or ant you ate as a dare.

If insect protein could (or would) be processed in a way that pork or beef are turned into food today, I don't believe I'd have any objections. It's just that I still have a weird feeling about eating grasshoppers or mealworms...

I've eaten wichety grubs. I know it's a cliche, but they really do taste like chicken.

100% omnivor, nature created me to eat just about everything including meat which i consume on a daily basis.
:D

Nature didn't create you to do anything. Nature doesn't have intentions.

actually i have a better one from the same source:
vegitarians say they don't eat meat because they want to save the animals, unfortunately thier vegitarian(and even vegan) habits kill animals as well-
http://maddox.xmission.com/grill.html

Yeah, I've seen that one before. While Maddox is right that vegetarian, or vegan shouldn't claim that *no* animals die to produce their food, the fact remains that *fewer* animals die to feed vegetarians than meat eaters (as less farmland is needed to produce, say, soybeans, than beef). Therefore it is in fact perfectly consistant to say you don't eat meat because you don't like animals to be killed.

You were generalising anyway, since not all vegetarians 'say they don't eat meat because they want to save the animals'.

I dunno, man, I know a few people who would be better off being eaten by animals ;).

Anyway, the way I see it is: Animals eat other animals. We eat almost all animals, because we're at the top of the food chain. If you wanna eat nothing but fruits and vegetables, that's fine with me. Just don't go pushing people around because they eat meat!

Who was 'pushing people around'?

Every single day I eat meat. I can't imagine not having some kind of meat in my meal every day.
:eek: How very unimaginative.

How disappointing! I see numerous posts in the meat thread by "Flesh Eatin Zombies" - and not one of them is a recipe for human brains. Bummer.

I'm a vegematarian (or as my uncle calls me,a vegetablererarnian). I'd say I don't have a problem with peoplewho eat meat, especially - it's their choice. I just have an issue with people who eat meat and:

a) Only eat certain types of meat, e.g. only fish, or not rabbit, because they're "cute".

I eat only fish (and only some types of fish at that- I don't want to eat any endangered species and I'm suspicious of generic 'fish'- I want to know what kind of fish it is)
Why do you 'have issue' with that?

How disappointing! I see numerous posts in the meat thread by "Flesh Eatin Zombies" - and not one of them is a recipe for human brains. Bummer.
You only need a recipe if you're planning to cook them. ;)

You only need a recipe if you're planning to cook them. ;)

Brain tartar? In Hollandaise? With Sweetbreads? Yeah, Baby!

You should try some. There's nothing quite like it. Not that I have tasted, anyway.

Had it once. I didn't much care for it, but yes, there's nothing quite like it.

I dont like organ meats.

I've eaten wichety grubs. I know it's a cliche, but they really do taste like chicken.
when you're hungry enough, everything tastes just like chicken :D

PORK!!!!

The key ingrediant for good barbeque!!!


Pig is good food.

Then again I'll eat anything aslong as it has/had a face.