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The Mayan Calender: 2012=Doom of Humanity?

Falhaar
09-05-2005, 16:51
I've been talking with one of my friends who is convinced that the Mayan Calender has thusfar proved to be an uncanny and near infallible source of prediction. And that it prophesises the apocalypse (or something like it) in the year 2012, in december.

Do you believe that the Mayan Calender is accurate/innacurate (full of shit)? What leads you to that conclusion?

More importantly, will I get to be involved in a hot female-female-male threesome before then, thus completing my life?
25th Soldier Select
09-05-2005, 16:53
1.) No. I have no reason to not believe it, I just think its probably bullshit. I take those predictions with as much weight as Nostradamus.

2.) Good luck with that :P
Shadowstorm Imperium
09-05-2005, 16:55
I've been talking with one of my friends who is convinced that the Mayan Calender has thusfar proved to be an uncanny and near infallible source of prediction. And that it prophesises the apocalypse (or something like it) in the year 2012, in december.

Do you believe that the Mayan Calender is accurate/innacurate (full of shit)? What leads you to that conclusion?

More importantly, will I get to be involved in a hot female-female-male threesome before then, thus completing my life?

Well, I'm pretty sure the Mayan apocalypse conflicts with the Ancient Egyptian prediction, so the big question is, whose pyramids were cooler?
Matchopolis
09-05-2005, 16:59
Don't forget the Papal Predictions of St Malachy. This fellow in office now is supposed to be the next to last Pope and he's over 80. The next one is supposed to rule over the destruction of the Catholic church and Rome during the Tribulation Period prophecied in Revelations in the Bible. Seven years of tribulations minus 2012= now. Time is ticking.
Matchopolis
09-05-2005, 17:02
Mayan pyramids are definately cooler. better sculptures...but Egyptian women did go topless. Mayan...better pyramids. Egyptians...boobies. Maybe that's why their pyramids are pretty plain looking. They had other things to do. But if you want real Horndogs in architecture look to India. I bet those guys had saxophone music playing while they worked.
Aronian States
09-05-2005, 17:03
we all die on April 13th, 2029. an asteroid will intersect earths orbit and either hit us or affect the tides so severely as to cause massive flooding. check my facts w/ NASA i you wish. :eek: :eek: :eek:
The Arch Wobbly
09-05-2005, 17:06
we all die on April 13th, 2029. an asteroid will intersect earths orbit and either hit us or affect the tides so severely as to cause massive flooding. check my facts w/ NASA i you wish. :eek: :eek: :eek:

You mean the one that's going to miss us by thousands of miles? That asteroid?
Ashekelon
09-05-2005, 17:08
winter solistice, 2012 represents conclusion of long cycle. it is the 'end of the world', or at least, the end of an age of ages.

attempting to make a date prediction on such things is a fool's game, since time does not exist the first place, and is merely an illusion that works well enough for us in third density at this time. in fact, all things occure at the same 'time' in the eternal 'now'.

something called the realm border crossing (aka 'the wave') is said to be approaching, which will allow for some to make the jump to 4th density. after 2012, everything cycles, and those who remain in 3rd density recycle back through ancient 'times' again.

how long is this cycle? approximately 309,000 earth years.

if you wish to learn more (or mock) then try here: Starbelt Discussions (http://www.starbelt.com/phpBB/)
Blaas
09-05-2005, 17:10
You mean the one that's going to miss us by thousands of miles? That asteroid?

I'm more say 100's of thousands of miles, and I doubt that something that small will affect the tides to the as it's smaller and further away than the moon
Andaluciae
09-05-2005, 17:15
1: No, I do not believe that the Mayans had any way to see into the future and as such, they couldn't predict the end of the world. Their calendar is based off of a solar year, just as our calendar is, they made it through the same observations of the "movements" of the sun that Europeans did. The Mayans just didn't make their calendar quite long enough.

2: Considering the overall number of guys who get so lucky as to have that happen to them is very small, then I'm giving you a solid no.
Eutrusca
09-05-2005, 17:19
I've been talking with one of my friends who is convinced that the Mayan Calender has thusfar proved to be an uncanny and near infallible source of prediction. And that it prophesises the apocalypse (or something like it) in the year 2012, in december.

Do you believe that the Mayan Calender is accurate/innacurate (full of shit)? What leads you to that conclusion?

More importantly, will I get to be involved in a hot female-female-male threesome before then, thus completing my life?
Interestingly enough, the I Ching also runs out at that time.
Wisjersey
09-05-2005, 17:21
Folks, don't be superstitious, please... :rolleyes:
Seosavists
09-05-2005, 17:21
Don't you remember the world is already over since 2000!
This is hell.
:rolleyes:
Andaluciae
09-05-2005, 17:22
Although, if the world does end, I'm going to cart myself up on the roof, set myself up with some booze and a lawnchair, and watch it all go bang! It'll be one hell of a good time!
Czardas
09-05-2005, 17:28
According to various prophecies the world was supposed to end on all the following dates:

1 AD
1000
c. 1376 (Black Death)
1652 (Halley's Comet I think)
1844 (Mormons)
2000 (Y2K)
2004
[...I'm sure there are more, please submit]

I'm not holding my breath.
Krakozha
09-05-2005, 17:38
According to various prophecies the world was supposed to end on all the following dates:

1 AD
1000
c. 1376 (Black Death)
1652 (Halley's Comet I think)
1844 (Mormons)
2000 (Y2K)
2004
[...I'm sure there are more, please submit]

I'm not holding my breath.

July 1999 - I think it was Nostradamus that said that it would end in 1999 plus seven months. Could be July 2000 or July '99, depends on how you interpret. Then again, he said that the next pope would take over in 2000 and would be French...
The Tribes Of Longton
09-05-2005, 17:47
According to various prophecies the world was supposed to end on all the following dates:

1 AD
1000
c. 1376 (Black Death)
1652 (Halley's Comet I think)
1844 (Mormons)
2000 (Y2K)
2004
[...I'm sure there are more, please submit]

I'm not holding my breath.
We were all supposed to die on the 20/02/2002 at 20:02. weren't we? Or was that just a sort of minor catastrophe thing, like 'everyone will simultanously forget to put the cat out and it will go poopy on your rug'?
Wisjersey
09-05-2005, 17:50
According to various prophecies the world was supposed to end on all the following dates:

1 AD
1000
c. 1376 (Black Death)
1652 (Halley's Comet I think)
1844 (Mormons)
2000 (Y2K)
2004
[...I'm sure there are more, please submit]

I'm not holding my breath.

Well, these come into my mind:

1914 (Witnesses of Yehovah, i think)
1962 (Cuban Missile Crisis, alternate timeline)
1999 (Nostrodamos)
Krakozha
09-05-2005, 18:04
http://www.funnyjunk.com/pages/world.htm/
Praetonia
09-05-2005, 18:08
The world pretty much did end in 1914. The world of European Empires etc... ie the world that had existed since the 1500s.
Shinra Megacorporation
09-05-2005, 18:13
But the world already ended
X-Day
5 July 1998

(J. R. "Bob" Dobbs/Ivan Stang)
Swimmingpool
09-05-2005, 18:13
I've been talking with one of my friends who is convinced that the Mayan Calender has thusfar proved to be an uncanny and near infallible source of prediction. And that it prophesises the apocalypse (or something like it) in the year 2012, in december.
That's funny, several other prophecies including I Ching predict some sort of huge turning point in 2012. I'm sceptical though.
Shinra Megacorporation
09-05-2005, 18:14
Don't you think that anyone else ever got bored of making calanders? Mine ends on dec 31 2005. so the world will end in january 2006
Krakozha
09-05-2005, 18:15
That's funny, several other prophecies including I Ching predict some sort of huge turning point in 2012. I'm sceptical though.

I've heard that too, but I'd love to know what the basis for all this stuff is. Any ideas? Never read the I Ching...
Swimmingpool
09-05-2005, 18:20
Interestingly enough, the I Ching also runs out at that time.
Ah, great minds.

Also, some Catholic prophesy also puts the end of the world then, as the pope after Ben16 (we all know Benny isn't going to last til 2012) will be the anti-Christ.
Freedomland Dictators
09-05-2005, 18:27
there was also supposed to be something about the rapture coming in 2012. it's supposed to be the end of the final seven years god gives us. we were supposed to have 7 years of peace, 1990-1997, 7 years of war, 1998-2004, and 7 years of destruction, 2005-2012, when God will come down. Crazy Christian thing theory that goes along with the calender of the Mayans.
Krakozha
09-05-2005, 18:29
there was also supposed to be something about the rapture coming in 2012. it's supposed to be the end of the final seven years god gives us. we were supposed to have 7 years of peace, 1990-1997, 7 years of war, 1998-2004, and 7 years of destruction, 2005-2012, when God will come down. Crazy Christian thing theory that goes along with the calender of the Mayans.

I heard it was severn years of plenty, then seven years of wanting. The world's economy was great for a while, now it's sliding downhill towards a huge crash...
Botswombata
09-05-2005, 18:32
I think your friend is full of Phooey.
I recently visited the Tulum ruins & learned a great deal about the Mayan Culture & Calendar. The Mayan tour guide who showed us the ruins did not give us any dark predictions of the end of the world. Considering they have restoration plans well into the 2020's I some how don't think any of them believe the world will come to an end.
What will happen in the year 2012 is that the current calendar will end. A new cycle for the Mayans will begin. This is all. Not the end of the world.
Czardas
09-05-2005, 18:38
Actually, I know when the world will end. I ought to.

The end is coming soon. Very soon...


We are building Our crafts and Our missiles to wipe out humanity before it corrupts the rest of the universe. When Our power is unleashed it will be as though the planet Earth never existed. All humans shall realize their folly...too late. Ahahahahaha!

If only they were ready now...give us a few years.
Armed Bookworms
09-05-2005, 18:39
What will happen in the year 2012 is that the current calendar will end. A new cycle for the Mayans will begin. This is all. Not the end of the world.
An end of an age of ages is not quite the same thing as the end of the world.
Avika
09-05-2005, 18:40
Every doomsday prediction is wrong. According to Jesus, predicting the doomsday is impossible for any mortal to do. Remember the parymid thing? It predicted everything from the black death scare to World War II with amazing accuracy right down to the year. It also predicted the end of the world, which was supposed to explode or something in 2002 or so. Nonstradomus was kinda vague on doomsday and he predicted 3 anti-Christs, with the third one causing doomsday or something. Let's see. #1 was Napoleon. #2 was Hitler. #3 should pop up at any time. It might destry the world today. We might last until 34654764373657564eadsgkba3465ad before god decided that enough is enough and kills us all. That French guy predicted that it would happen like 80 or so years after a great earthquake. Everyone thought that 1986 would be our last year. Why? 1906 San Fransisco Earthquake. What about 2085? 2005 Tsunami caused by an underwater earthquake. I think God purposely postpones the end of the world until we finally stop trying to predict it. God hate that, which is odd for someone that's all about love and happiness. Let's just stop trying to predict it. It's like predicting the name of every person born this year on every planet with "intelligent" life, so no fair using those from earth. the life has to be smart, which means not us because we have wars and people who use terrorism because they ran out of ideas to keep themselves occupied. Plus, we have so many languages. Who came up with the multiple languages idea? Did someone get tired of everyone understanding him, so he invented the second language?
Artamazia
09-05-2005, 18:40
If the world doesn't end, someone should throw a party.
Botswombata
09-05-2005, 18:41
An end of an age of ages is not quite the same thing as the end of the world.
My point exactly!
Czardas
09-05-2005, 18:43
I heard it was severn years of plenty, then seven years of wanting. The world's economy was great for a while, now it's sliding downhill towards a huge crash...That was the Old Testament.

I forget whether it was Genesis, Kings, Judges, Deuteronomy, Numbers...well anyway, that happened already in ancient Egypt, so don't expect it to be referring to modern times.
Artamazia
09-05-2005, 18:43
Every doomsday prediction is wrong. According to Jesus, predicting the doomsday is impossible for any mortal to do. Remember the parymid thing? It predicted everything from the black death scare to World War II with amazing accuracy right down to the year. It also predicted the end of the world, which was supposed to explode or something in 2002 or so. Nonstradomus was kinda vague on doomsday and he predicted 3 anti-Christs, with the third one causing doomsday or something. Let's see. #1 was Napoleon. #2 was Hitler. #3 should pop up at any time. It might destry the world today. We might last until 34654764373657564eadsgkba3465ad before god decided that enough is enough and kills us all. That French guy predicted that it would happen like 80 or so years after a great earthquake. Everyone thought that 1986 would be our last year. Why? 1906 San Fransisco Earthquake. What about 2085? 2005 Tsunami caused by an underwater earthquake. I think God purposely postpones the end of the world until we finally stop trying to predict it. God hate that, which is odd for someone that's all about love and happiness. Let's just stop trying to predict it. It's like predicting the name of every person born this year on every planet with "intelligent" life, so no fair using those from earth. the life has to be smart, which means not us because we have wars and people who use terrorism because they ran out of ideas to keep themselves occupied. Plus, we have so many languages. Who came up with the multiple languages idea? Did someone get tired of everyone understanding him, so he invented the second language?

Napoleon was an anti-Christ? Sure he wasn't a great guy, but I wouldn't go that far.
Drunken FratBoy Island
09-05-2005, 18:44
Ah, great minds.

Also, some Catholic prophesy also puts the end of the world then, as the pope after Ben16 (we all know Benny isn't going to last til 2012) will be the anti-Christ.

Hm. Maybe the prophesy was off by a year? Maybe this pope will be the evil one? After all, he was a member of the Hitler Youth.

Or maybe all of this end of the world stuff is just hokey any ways. Especially when the predictions are made by the Catholoic church. It's in confliction with the bible(conflictions and contradictions between the bible and the church? Gasp! Like that's never happened before :rolleyes: ). It says it the bible that no one will know when the end times will come, that it will come like a thief in the night.

So, as long as we keep saying "This'll be the year it all goes to pot!" we can prolong the end for another year since we'll be expecting it, right? :)
Czardas
09-05-2005, 18:46
Every doomsday prediction is wrong. According to Jesus, predicting the doomsday is impossible for any mortal to do. Remember the parymid thing? It predicted everything from the black death scare to World War II with amazing accuracy right down to the year. It also predicted the end of the world, which was supposed to explode or something in 2002 or so. Nonstradomus was kinda vague on doomsday and he predicted 3 anti-Christs, with the third one causing doomsday or something. Let's see. #1 was Napoleon. #2 was Hitler. #3 should pop up at any time. It might destry the world today. We might last until 34654764373657564eadsgkba3465ad before god decided that enough is enough and kills us all. That French guy predicted that it would happen like 80 or so years after a great earthquake. Everyone thought that 1986 would be our last year. Why? 1906 San Fransisco Earthquake. What about 2085? 2005 Tsunami caused by an underwater earthquake. I think God purposely postpones the end of the world until we finally stop trying to predict it. God hate that, which is odd for someone that's all about love and happiness. Let's just stop trying to predict it. It's like predicting the name of every person born this year on every planet with "intelligent" life, so no fair using those from earth. the life has to be smart, which means not us because we have wars and people who use terrorism because they ran out of ideas to keep themselves occupied. Plus, we have so many languages. Who came up with the multiple languages idea? Did someone get tired of everyone understanding him, so he invented the second language?Actually, I read that the Pyramids predicted the world would end in the year 2979. I wonder how they got it? Maybe because it's the last four digits of my cell phone number. :D

Actually, just kidding. My cell phone ends a few centuries before that.
BerkylvaniaII
09-05-2005, 19:01
Actually, I read that the Pyramids predicted the world would end in the year 2979. I wonder how they got it? Maybe because it's the last four digits of my cell phone number. :D

Actually, just kidding. My cell phone ends a few centuries before that.

It seems counter-intuitive to credit a civilization with being able to predict the eventual end of the world accurately when they couldn't predict the end of themselves much sooner...
Armed Bookworms
09-05-2005, 19:06
It seems counter-intuitive to credit a civilization with being able to predict the eventual end of the world accurately when they couldn't predict the end of themselves much sooner...
? I was not aware that there was any indication they thought their own society would last until the end of the age of ages. The end of the age of ages has little to do with their own society if I remember correctly.
BerkylvaniaII
09-05-2005, 19:08
? I was not aware that there was any indication they thought their own society would last until the end of the age of ages. The end of the age of ages has little to do with their own society if I remember correctly.

Well, fair enough. Frankly, I don't know enough, either, to truly make that statement. It was just a snap judgement. Still, one might suppose that if one were indeed predicting the end of the world, then along the way, one might notice the end of one's own society and jot it down on a post-it or something.
Czardas
09-05-2005, 19:12
Well, fair enough. Frankly, I don't know enough, either, to truly make that statement. It was just a snap judgement. Still, one might suppose that if one were indeed predicting the end of the world, then along the way, one might notice the end of one's own society and jot it down on a post-it or something.In that case, they're excused. Post-its weren't invented yet. :p
Krakozha
09-05-2005, 19:33
That was the Old Testament.

I forget whether it was Genesis, Kings, Judges, Deuteronomy, Numbers...well anyway, that happened already in ancient Egypt, so don't expect it to be referring to modern times.

Actually, someone else said someting about it, not referring to the Old Testament thing. It does refer to the modern day. I just can't remember where it came from...

On another note, the Chinese calendar is what, 3500 years ahead of ours? If the world was going to end on such and such a date, why not follow the Chinese calendar, who says our calendar is right?
Seosavists
09-05-2005, 19:34
After all, he was a member of the Hitler Youth.

Not by choice.
Phthshar
09-05-2005, 22:02
The world will end when I'm done with it. End of story. :rolleyes: