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In a post about abstinence, someone said, “we need to teach safe sex.” While I don’t necessarily disagree with that statement, I’d like to know what people mean by “safe sex.” Do we mean disease and pregnancy prevention? If so, then the only sex that I am aware of that will guarantee no STD or pregnancy is masturbation. Please enlighten me.

Condoms are nice.
Of course you'll go to hell for using it, but it'll make your life on earth a lot easier ;)

Calling abstinence or masturbation safe sex doesn't seem right to me because neither are actually sex. There is no safe sex, only safer (protected) sex.

What's wrong with masturbation? That's sex with someone you love...

What's wrong with masturbation? That's sex with someone you love...

I've heard that somewhere before... I can't remember!

Calling abstinence or masturbation safe sex doesn't seem right to me because neither are actually sex. There is no safe sex, only safer (protected) sex.

Mastrubation is not sex? What about mutual mastrubation?

Safe Sex:
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"Safe" is relative. That said, condoms are very effective, statistically speaking. Properly used in conjunction with birth control, regular testing, and discussion with partners, you should worry more about toilet seats.

Safe sex: two safes humping each other.

:) :mp5:

I've heard that somewhere before... I can't remember!
It's a Woody Allen quote, I think...

In a post about abstinence, someone said, “we need to teach safe sex.” While I don’t necessarily disagree with that statement, I’d like to know what people mean by “safe sex.” Do we mean disease and pregnancy prevention? If so, then the only sex that I am aware of that will guarantee no STD or pregnancy is masturbation. Please enlighten me.

Safe sex? Well, wearing a helmet and doing the naughty in a padded room are the two things I can think of...

Mastrubation is not sex? What about mutual mastrubation?
Sex can wait-- masturbate!

I love that abstinence slogan...

I know what the poster is getting at condoms can break, no sex is completely safe blah blah blah...

Sometimes you have to take risks or life is dreadfully boring and tedious. You can spend your whole life being safe all the time and then you'll just wind up old and wrinkly 95 years old in a nursing home, all alone after all your friends have died, and you'll wish you had more fun back in the day.

Safe sex is sex that is safe. For example, sex that is not dangerous.

Ever seen the movie "Demolition Man?" The sex with the funny VR thing. Safe sex is sex without the transfer of fluids, I say.

Sometimes you have to take risks or life is dreadfully boring and tedious.

Agreed. Everything has risks. Sex is just another one of those things. You can dramatically lower the risks and that's good enough for me when it also has so many positives.

Mastrubation is not sex? What about mutual mastrubation?

Masturbation, no. Mutual masturbation, personally I wouldn't class it as sex though I can see why it might be.

It's when you're having sex while driving on the highway and you have your seatbelt on.

In a post about abstinence, someone said, “we need to teach safe sex.” While I don’t necessarily disagree with that statement, I’d like to know what people mean by “safe sex.” Do we mean disease and pregnancy prevention? If so, then the only sex that I am aware of that will guarantee no STD or pregnancy is masturbation. Please enlighten me.

In descending order of safeness....

Safer sex includes SEX EDUCATION that encourages:
Fantasizing would be 100% safe sexI should think.
Masturbation would be next.
Mutual masturbation with use of barriers (oral dams, condoms, etc.)
Oral sex with use of barriers...
Penetrative sex with use of barriers and contraception

Less safe sex
Mutual masturbation without use of barriers
oral sex without use of barriers
penetrative sex without use of barriers and contraception.

I've heard that somewhere before... I can't remember!
Mae West said it. It's a great quote.

Here's more from her:

A man in the house is worth two in the street.

An orgasm a day keeps the doctor away.

I consider sex a misdemeanor; the more I miss, de meaner I get.

I do all my best work in bed.

I feel like a million tonight. But one at a time.

I generally avoid temptation unless I can't resist it.

I used to be Snow White, but I drifted.

If Kinsey is right, I have only done what comes naturally, what the average American does secretly, drenching himself in guilt fixations and phobias because of his sense of sinning. I have never felt myself a sinner or committed what I would call a sin.

I've been in more laps than a napkin.

It's not the men in my life, but the life in my men.

Marriage is a fine institution, but I'm not ready for an institution.

Sex is an emotion in motion.

Sex with love is the greatest thing in life. But sex without love— that's not so bad either.

When women go wrong, men go right after them.

You may think you're in love when the passions of sex get hold of you, but if you didn't love the man before, you won't love him after. Live him, maybe— but not love him.

A hard man is good to find.

Too much of a good thing can be simply wonderful.

safe sex is when wife doesn't know

Mae West said it. It's a great quote.
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Lol movies were better when they couldn't show boobies because the female actresses would just have to say ridiculously sexxxy things like that to please the guys in the audiences.

Ah back in the day when movies actually had dialogue which didn't suck...

In a post about abstinence, someone said, “we need to teach safe sex.” While I don’t necessarily disagree with that statement, I’d like to know what people mean by “safe sex.” Do we mean disease and pregnancy prevention? If so, then the only sex that I am aware of that will guarantee no STD or pregnancy is masturbation. Please enlighten me.

What is safe driving?

It is driving while taking precautions to keep from having an accident.

In a post about abstinence, someone said, “we need to teach safe sex.” While I don’t necessarily disagree with that statement, I’d like to know what people mean by “safe sex.” Do we mean disease and pregnancy prevention? If so, then the only sex that I am aware of that will guarantee no STD or pregnancy is masturbation. Please enlighten me.while so STD and Pregnancy will result in Masturbation... you are open, however, to severe Chaffing, arm cramps, carpel tunnel Syndrom, and infections (if you use Aides or tools) so even Masturbation really isn't that safe.

So the only safe sex is...
the one on questionaires.

Sex: Male___ Female___

or you can count Abstinance.

while so STD and Pregnancy will result in Masturbation... you are open, however, to severe Chaffing, arm cramps, carpel tunnel Syndrom, and infections (if you use Aides or tools) so even Masturbation really isn't that safe.

So the only safe sex is...
the one on questionaires.

Sex: Male___ Female___

or you can count Abstinance.

So the only way to drive safely is not to drive?

So the only way to drive safely is not to drive?drive only in video games... cuz even being a Passenger is Dangerous. :D

drive only in video games... cuz even being a Passenger is Dangerous. :D
And video games strain your eyes and can cause carpal tunnel syndrome. Better just pretend you're driving.

Sex with a Weapon!

In a post about abstinence, someone said, “we need to teach safe sex.” While I don’t necessarily disagree with that statement, I’d like to know what people mean by “safe sex.” Do we mean disease and pregnancy prevention? If so, then the only sex that I am aware of that will guarantee no STD or pregnancy is masturbation. Please enlighten me.

Generally safe sex refers to condoms, the pill, etc. Best if its double dutch, ie combination of the two, which has 99% protection vs pregnancy and something like 95% vs disease.

And video games strain your eyes and can cause carpal tunnel syndrome. Better just pretend you're driving. :eek: I didn't think of that... that's true... and lets not get into Cybersex while on the Information Superhighway!!! :eek:

isn't that how computer viruses are spread...


UNSAFE INTERFACING with strange PC's? :D

What is safe driving?
Seriously tho. I think the term is Defensive Driving. as in watching out for everybody and everything on and near the road.

Being a virgin, non-druggie, etc and marrying a virgin, non-druggie etc.

Then, each being faithful to each other for life while not doing the druggie, etc stuff.

After 34 years of marriage to my high school sweetheart, it doesn't get much safer (and sweeter) than that.

No stress, no lies, no worries.

Seriously tho. I think the term is Defensive Driving. as in watching out for everybody and everything on and near the road.

Defensive driving is a subset of safe driving, much like a condom might be a subset of what it takes to have safe sex. It is necessary, but not sufficient.

It's when you're having sex while driving on the highway and you have your seatbelt on.
I tried that and it does not work...

I tried that and it does not work...

Yeah. I've read a book where a guy's wife and best friend die in an accident caused by the fact that the wife was giving the friend a blow job in the car.

Yeah. I've read a book where a guy's wife and best friend die in an accident caused by the fact that the wife was giving the friend a blow job in the car.

There are probably plenty of those, since it seems to be a common gag, but was it, by any chance, American Gods?

There are probably plenty of those, since it seems to be a common gag, but was it, by any chance, American Gods?

Yeah, it was. That's a good book.

Yeah, it was. That's a good book.

I adore Neil Gaiman.

Sex with a chicken! People who don't know about Johnny the Homicidal Maniac won't know what I'm talking about.

"We eat chickens, we don't screw them! Well, some people do, but..."

"And that, kids, is how I met your mother."

:fluffle:

I adore Neil Gaiman.

Boy are we off-topic. Good Omens is good too.

In a post about abstinence, someone said, “we need to teach safe sex.” While I don’t necessarily disagree with that statement, I’d like to know what people mean by “safe sex.” Do we mean disease and pregnancy prevention? If so, then the only sex that I am aware of that will guarantee no STD or pregnancy is masturbation. Please enlighten me.

First, define safe. Somwhat, almost, relatively, entirely?

Second, define sex. It can probably range from something less than a thought, to .....what?

Third, have those definitions mate (like, sex, typical) and the offspring is surely something close to the definition of safe sex.


P.S. Even better: (definition of sex) + [or -, or /, or x, whatever turns you on](definition of safe)= definition of safe sex!

P.P.S. please post your results

Boy are we off-topic. Good Omens is good too.
Good Omens kicks much ass.
I haven't read American Gods yet, but I'm planning to next time I get around to buying books.

Err, back on topic...

The way I see it, safe sex isn't about being totally completely 100% safe. It's about minimizing whatever risks there may be as much as is possible with whatever methods the participants are comfortable using. It's a game of risks, like most everything else in life.

And now for the obligatory groan-inducing bad joke:
Safe sex is locking the car door first.

IMHO, Safe sex is taking all the precautions you can, if you actually engage in any form of sex (intercourse, oral, anal, etc.), to prevent disease and pregnancy to occur. Of course, safe sex doesn't always work, which is why abstinence is taught. So, in essence, safe sex is kind of like putting a seatbelt on, it might not save you from the consequences of getting in a car accident.

full body condomn suits like in the naked gun

I adore Neil Gaiman.

<whispered, so as not to disturb the flow of the thread>

(The Sandman stuff is arguably his best work...)

(Where you aware that there is a Gaiman/McKean movie to be released later this year? Mirrormask - which was a Sundance release this year?)

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0366780/

safe sex is sex with someone whom is not infected with anything, and neither are you. there is no such thing as "safe sex" with someone who is infected, condoms do not work all the time.

Safe sex is that which doesn't involve sharp or dangerous objects.

I also recommend padding your headboard and checking the toxicity of any involved lotions and lubricants.

Being a virgin, non-druggie, etc and marrying a virgin, non-druggie etc.

Then, each being faithful to each other for life while not doing the druggie, etc stuff.

After 34 years of marriage to my high school sweetheart, it doesn't get much safer (and sweeter) than that.

No stress, no lies, no worries.
And whats you definition of druggie? I never heard of someone catching herpes from smoking pot.

In descending order of safeness....

Safer sex includes SEX EDUCATION that encourages:
Fantasizing would be 100% safe sexI should think.
Masturbation would be next.
Mutual masturbation with use of barriers (oral dams, condoms, etc.)
Oral sex with use of barriers...
Penetrative sex with use of barriers and contraception

Less safe sex
Mutual masturbation without use of barriers
oral sex without use of barriers
penetrative sex without use of barriers and contraception.I'd agree with all that that, though where possible when using barriers, it shouldn't hurt to " double up " and use more then one barrier ( e.g. Both dental / oral dam AND condom, for example as we're talking a possible homo/hetero act here. ) and don't forget the possible use of use of a spermicide during penetrative sex WITH a condom and / or femidom, ( Which I would anticipate the spermicide would only be required for a heterosexual couple, as * I doubt a homosexual couple need be all that worried about getting " knocked up " in such circumstances, hee ... Unless there is something I don't know about. In which case I'd like to hang onto my girlish figure, thank you very much, heh. )

Nods in a very prim and proper fashion

* Is a guy, for any who don't get it yet, hehehe ... <_<

sex is a sin if you enjoy it. sex is only for procreational purposes, and if you enjoy it you're going strait to hell!

so, see you there!

man, religion propaganda is the reason this world is over populated, cause of teen pregnacy, and having birth control sterotyped as bad. let go of religion and get educated. it's a lot more useful, and then you're more likely to avoid those things you fear so much.

prayer does not keep away stds and pregnacy. you got more chance with an educated mind. st

Being a virgin, non-druggie, etc and marrying a virgin, non-druggie etc.

Then, each being faithful to each other for life while not doing the druggie, etc stuff.

After 34 years of marriage to my high school sweetheart, it doesn't get much safer (and sweeter) than that.

No stress, no lies, no worries.
You know you can get veneral disease from birth.

sex is a sin if you enjoy it. sex is only for procreational purposes, and if you enjoy it you're going strait to hell!

so, see you there!

man, religion propaganda is the reason this world is over populated, cause of teen pregnacy, and having birth control sterotyped as bad. let go of religion and get educated. it's a lot more useful, and then you're more likely to avoid those things you fear so much.

prayer does not keep away stds and pregnacy. you got more chance with an educated mind. stYes, THANK-YOU for pretty much going off topic. This is NOT about the virtues of " To Abstinate Ones Self or Not " and " Just Who is telling us Where we should be putting our Wangs ", as I recall, * but a question about what is meant by " Safe Sex " and just what Safe Sex actually is. Sex being the act of reproduction ( Or recreation, both being sexual acts all the same. ) I would have thought this'd be about how to minimise risks of STD transmission, etc, when you and your ( hypothetical, I guess ) partner are doing the Horizontal ( Or how-ever you like to do it ) Monster Mash ...

If you don't want to hear about something, then don't bring it up your-self. Especially when we weren't discussing it any-way, :rolleyes:

* Unless of course this is yet another thread with a mis-leading title ... Which I've been noticing more and more these days ...

In a post about abstinence, someone said, “we need to teach safe sex.” While I don’t necessarily disagree with that statement, I’d like to know what people mean by “safe sex.” Do we mean disease and pregnancy prevention? If so, then the only sex that I am aware of that will guarantee no STD or pregnancy is masturbation. Please enlighten me.


I've always thought that putting my weenie in a safe was what other people meant by safe sex. That's why I never practiced it .... :headbang:

There's no such thing as safe sex.

I've always thought that putting my weenie in a safe was what other people meant by safe sex. That's why I never practiced it .... :headbang:

Ohhhh? :( I thought it was having sex in the safe. I read where it's two safes having sex, and now it's the place to keep your weenie from having sex...What am I to think? Oh, bother... :D

Back on topic: I talked to my kids about sex. I was straight up with them about the consequences of having un-protected sex. That's the first step.

I also made sure they (the boys), understood how to use a condom and where it can be purchased. Step Two.

Respect for their partner!! Step three.

Nobody has come home pregnant, or with a disease and they are as far as I'm concerned practicing safe sex.

It doesn't hurt that my mother is the head nurse of communicable diseases for the local health department, and I can get all the information necessary to inform my children.

It didn't hurt to let them know that I was aware that they are going to experiment with sex and that even though I didn't condone it I would rather they be intelligent about it.

STDs and such aside - does safer sex exclude accidents that can happen during intercourse?!?

I also made sure they (the boys), understood how to use a condom and where it can be purchased. Step Two.
As a slight addition to your step two - I believe it's equally important for the girls to know how to use a condom properly. After all, if the guy is too stupid/nervous/unwilling to use one, it's time for the gals to take charge before they receive one unwillingly...

And whats you definition of druggie? I never heard of someone catching herpes from smoking pot.
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[QUOTE=Helioterra]You know you can get veneral disease from birth.



I assumed that the original question was designed to elicit serious answers. I gave the best answer I could and one that I have been satisfied to live.

Safe sex is intercourse utilizing contraception, namely a condom.


Safe sex more broadly refers to sex using any sort of effective contraception, but in the most relevent sense it means condoms, since they protect from both pregnency and STDs.

If you want to consider masturbation "sex" then I assume you also consider eating and defecating to be "sex" because they utilize parts of the body which can also be used to sexual activity.

Beyond being absurd, it is simply incorrect.

And whats you definition of druggie? I never heard of someone catching herpes from smoking pot.
Ever heard of someone catching AIDS from needles?

[QUOTE=Hammopolis]And whats you definition of druggie? I never heard of someone catching herpes from smoking pot.
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I assumed that the original question was designed to elicit serious answers. I gave the best answer I could and one that I have been satisfied to live.

I WAS serious. Many people don't know it and never get themselves tested as they think they are "safe". Everyone should test themselves before starting a sexual relationship with another person.