NationStates Jolt Archive


Thread Ownership

Czardas
06-05-2005, 21:34
Here on General I've run into a lot of threads in which the thread starter seems to think he/she has ultimate authority over the thread and can control what other people post on it. This is not true. In my opinion, once you post a thread on General, it is public property and anyone can post whatever they want (that's legal, I mean) in it. Does anyone else have any thoughts on thread ownership? When you start a thread, does that mean it's yours?
HotRodia
06-05-2005, 21:38
Well...the thread author does have a sort of limited control over what goes on in the thread because s/he can ask for a Moderator to lock it and have that request granted. Legally, I guess anyone can use the thread within the limits specified by Max Barry, his representatives, Jolt, and their representatives.

I guess a thread is "owned" by Jolt and/or Max, and everyone else has reasonable use of it, the thread author with one additional power beyond that.
Sinuhue
06-05-2005, 21:43
No. No one owns a thread. HOWEVER, I do think that the poster who begins a thread can ask posters to stay on topic or suggest that they splinter off to another thread.

However, I haven't REALLY seen that many instances of someone trying to control a thread...
Sinuhue
06-05-2005, 21:45
In my opinion, once you post a thread on General, it is public property and anyone can post whatever they want (that's legal, I mean) in it.
Also, yes anyone can post anything they want within NS guidelines...but those posters do NOT have the right to neve be questioned on what they post. If the thread starter (or others) challenges a post made, and asks for sources, clarification, or proof, that is NOT trying to control what is posted. That is part of the dialogue. Same goes for people challenging posts made by the thread starter.
Harlesburg
06-05-2005, 21:49
Czardas has a point the thread starter never owns the thread...I OWN IT!
Even when its my thread i own it!

They are correct once its posted its fair game but one 'should' keep to the topic!
Vittos Ordination
06-05-2005, 21:51
I find it is good to start out warning people that I will have the thread locked if it gets way off topic or a flame war starts. I have never had cause to actually follow through, but it kind of gives me some power over the course of the debate.

Lately, however, I just stick to discussions that generally don't get overly emotional or flame-ridden.
Czardas
06-05-2005, 21:56
I find it is good to start out warning people that I will have the thread locked if it gets way off topic or a flame war starts. I have never had cause to actually follow through, but it kind of gives me some power over the course of the debate.

Lately, however, I just stick to discussions that generally don't get overly emotional or flame-ridden.That's a great idea:

"Mr. President, the major issue this campaign is gay marriage."
"I see. Are most people for it or against it?"
"They're sharply divided sir...they get really emotional debating it."
"Okay, we don't want people to get emotional. Therefore let's not take a stand on it at all. What are some uncontroversial issues?"
"Well sir, most people believe the sky is blue..."
"That's our platform then. We're running on a 'The Sky is Blue' platform."
Perezuela
06-05-2005, 22:01
By witnessing all the thread jockies here on NS General, I think it's the other way around. The thread OWNS the posters.
Sinuhue
06-05-2005, 22:02
That's a great idea:

"Mr. President, the major issue this campaign is gay marriage."
"I see. Are most people for it or against it?"
"They're sharply divided sir...they get really emotional debating it."
"Okay, we don't want people to get emotional. Therefore let's not take a stand on it at all. What are some uncontroversial issues?"
"Well sir, most people believe the sky is blue..."
"That's our platform then. We're running on a 'The Sky is Blue' platform."
Unfortunately for your analogy, Vitt isn't the President. Avoiding repetitious, unresolved, and highly contraversial topics is good for one's mental and physical health sometimes.
Frisbeeteria
06-05-2005, 22:05
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=416023
NationStates & International Incidents

Thread Ownership: Roleplay threads are largely controlled by the topic originator. The title of the thread may include such statements as [Open], [Invite Only], or [Closed], and the first post may contain additional information pertaining to who may or may not participate in the thread. This should be considered carefully before posting, as editing in later instructions may not be enforceable. The thread owner may make a moderation request for post removal, player ejection from a thread, and/or post locking or deletion. Note: Thread ownership only applies to these two forums.
emphasis added.
HotRodia
06-05-2005, 22:06
Unfortunately for your analogy, Vitt isn't the President. Avoiding repetitious, unresolved, and highly contraversial topics is good for one's mental and physical health sometimes.

True. Hence my break from General. :D

...but back to the topic at hand, I suppose.
Vittos Ordination
06-05-2005, 22:12
That's a great idea:

"Mr. President, the major issue this campaign is gay marriage."
"I see. Are most people for it or against it?"
"They're sharply divided sir...they get really emotional debating it."
"Okay, we don't want people to get emotional. Therefore let's not take a stand on it at all. What are some uncontroversial issues?"
"Well sir, most people believe the sky is blue..."
"That's our platform then. We're running on a 'The Sky is Blue' platform."

Unemotional does not mean unimportant. I usually stick to threads that concern finance, economics, societal constructs, and government constructs, as the random uninformed poster really has nothing to add to those. If a poster stumbles into one of those and starts posting blatant fabrications and half-truths, they are easily labeled as an idiot and promptly ignored.

I also like music threads since they are always light-hearted and unconfrontational.

EDIT: I did have my period where I posted in those reactionary threads, I just am bored by them now, and I can't keep up with them.
Pencil 17
06-05-2005, 22:19
Yeah I totally know what you mean...

On an unrelated tangent... me in France with my buddies

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v240/nikki-jazz/PICT0280.jpg
Vittos Ordination
06-05-2005, 22:21
Yeah I totally know what you mean...

On an unrelated tangent... me in France with my buddies

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v240/nikki-jazz/PICT0280.jpg

Hey, quit getting off topic...


So what does everyone think about this Terri Shiavo lady?
Reformentia
06-05-2005, 22:23
Here on General I've run into a lot of threads in which the thread starter seems to think he/she has ultimate authority over the thread and can control what other people post on it. This is not true. In my opinion, once you post a thread on General, it is public property and anyone can post whatever they want (that's legal, I mean) in it. Does anyone else have any thoughts on thread ownership? When you start a thread, does that mean it's yours?

I hope this wasn't inspired by my recently expressed intent to begin an invite-only thread to dialog with some creationists. Of course I will not own that thread when I get around to creating it, and it would not be against the rules for others to insist on posting in it even after being specifically requested not to.

It would be quite rude and childish, certainly... but not against the rules.
Koshkaboo
06-05-2005, 22:32
Yeah I totally know what you mean...

On an unrelated tangent... me in France with my buddies

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v240/nikki-jazz/PICT0280.jpg


Yum.

Oh wait.. what are we talking about?
Super-power
06-05-2005, 22:45
It's a thread commie! Ahhhhh! :eek:
Patra Caesar
07-05-2005, 02:34
I feel as if I own the threads I start here in General and will post to try and ensure that we don't get too far off topic and try and prevent flaming.
Tuesday Heights
07-05-2005, 02:50
In my opinion, once you post a thread on General, it is public property and anyone can post whatever they want (that's legal, I mean) in it. Does anyone else have any thoughts on thread ownership? When you start a thread, does that mean it's yours?

When you start a thread on a private server, it belongs to the server owner. So, everything you "create" here belongs to Max Barry and/or Jolt.
Chellis
07-05-2005, 02:56
I personally think that if the Allies in ww2 had put more forces in italy, instead of making an invasion in France, they could have invaded Germany both faster and more easily, possibly even beating Russia to Berlin. The allies could maintain air superiority, and if they bombed more extensively, as well as having many more troops, armour, and airbourne troops, they would have moved up Italy at a very good speed.
Gartref
07-05-2005, 04:12
Here on General I've run into a lot of threads in which the thread starter seems to think he/she has ultimate authority over the thread and can control what other people post on it. This is not true. In my opinion, once you post a thread on General, it is public property and anyone can post whatever they want (that's legal, I mean) in it. Does anyone else have any thoughts on thread ownership? When you start a thread, does that mean it's yours?

If you love a thread, set it free.