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I am asking all of NationStates to offer respect in the honor and memorial of Dante. May eleventh marks six months since his death. I will be posting a thread memoralizing him and I ask now, ahead of time, that everyone respect the thread and if possible offer some type of thoughts of kindess.

I know many may not know him, but even poems or something nice is acceptable. I am not asking for much; just that everyone respect and honor his memory.

As many may also know, since his death, his memory, friends, and I have been constantly ostracized and insulted frequently by other members of the game. I have been constantly hurting and even insulted further since his death; the least I ask for is some sort of respect and honor to be given to him, his friends, and me on that day. This is why I ask all of you to please help me. It's not much; so for one day, please take five minutes out of it to help remember fellow nation who has been blasphamized so wrongly since his death.

Thank you all. This means so much to me.

Der Fuhrer Dyszel

Who's Dante?

Who's Dante?

Dante was a former member of NationStates.

Dante was a former member of NationStates.

He passed away? In real life?

He passed away? In real life?

Yes, in real life, he died nearly six months ago.

Having spoken to you on MSN, I know how hard this hit you, and it makes me sad that I can do nothing but offer my utmost condolences. Still, for what its worth, I really hope you pull through, and I have strong faith that you will. This kind of loss is devastating, and nobody should have to go through it, but I hope I can speak for all of NS when I offer my help whenever you should want or need it.

As many may also know, since his death, his memory, friends, and I have been constantly ostracized and insulted frequently by other members of the game.
One question.

Why?

Why would they be that mean to you? :(

The way I see it, honour and respect have to be earned. In my opinion just dying doesn't make one deserve to be honoured and respected. Everybody dies. Death is part of life. Hate me for this if you want, but that's how I see it.

The way I see it, honour and respect have to be earned. In my opinion just dying doesn't make one deserve to be honoured and respected. Everybody dies. Death is part of life. Hate me for this if you want, but that's how I see it.

That's all fine and good. You're entitled to think whatever you want. This is just DFD's way of letting everyone know that she will be posting a thread to Dante's memory in a week, and asking everyone to have the decency to not post if they are not going to have kind things to say. If you do not believe Dante is deserving of your respect, that is fine. You need not post in DFD's memorial thread next week. Simple as that.

I only joined yesterday and did not know Dante, but on userfriendly (another forum I frequent) one of our members recently died and it hit quite a lot of people quite hard, so I can understand how it can affect a community.

:(

Dante's death did hit hard, especially to those who knew him. He was not too active his final months in this game due to RL situations that obviously prevented him from posting, but he was well known in his older days. I believe he is most known for his defense work and his commitment to the RRA; he was well loved there.

I offer my sympathies to your loss as well. It's really hard because you never really knew the person, but you just feel so bad anyway. Also, thank you for your kind words; kindness and compassion are always acceptable in my book. :D

People would be mean because some people are just so cruel (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=416973).

*Hugs DFD*

You're a great girl, and it's beautiful how you honor Dante's memory. He and all those touched by his life and light will be in my prayers, especially you.

Here's one for our honored dead.

(pours some Scotch on the ground)

The way I see it, honour and respect have to be earned. In my opinion just dying doesn't make one deserve to be honoured and respected. Everybody dies. Death is part of life. Hate me for this if you want, but that's how I see it.

People don't necessarily need to earn your respect personally. I've never talked to Dante, but I respect his memory because I've seen how well-loved and respected he was on NS.

Of course, Der Fuhrer. Dante deserves it.

I didn't know him, but I remember the story of what happened. In advance of the thread, my condolences. :(

Thank you all for understand this far. It's been hard since his death......really hard.

What would cause someone to mock you about the death of a loved one? That's just... low.

What would cause someone to mock you about the death of a loved one? That's just... low.

There is no real reason at all for someone to do that. But people have, and it is a sad sad thing......and very low indeed. That's really some way to kick someone when they are already down.

I shall sing kaddish at dawn for him.

Ummm...my condolences, though I feel pretty far out of the loop because I don't really recall Dante. I saw May 11 - this Wednesday - and six months before that, and realized that was my 22nd birthday, but that's beside the point of this thread.

Anyone care to educate a member of the unwashed masses such as myself on this Dante fellow? What was he like?

The way I see it, honour and respect have to be earned.

People are born deserving honor and respect. They do things to lose it.

Dante and DFD have my respect, and it saddens me to know that Dante passed away far too early.

The death of ANY NS'er is an event which we should all honor and respect. We NSer's need to stick together because this is more than just a game or a message board. We are a big family. That's just the way I see it. He will be missed.

How did this guy die anyway?

I've heard your story. Again, my condolences to you.

I didn't know Dante, but he sounded like a decent guy, and it's sad that he's gone. He'll be remembered.

How did this guy die anyway?

Is that really necessary for you to know?

Sá sem búið er að kveðja í huganum, hann er dáinn.
Paradísarheimt: Steinar.


I will take a moment on the 11th of May to remember a fallen Nation States member.

May the memory of a good lad be remembered.

I am very sorry for your loss and pain. I say that to DFD and to all of Dante's friends.

I did not know Dante and knew nothing about him or his death until today.

Very tragic. I am at a loss for anything more to say ....

I do hope you are getting lots of help and support outside NS. A loss like you have suffered needs great solace and can overwhelm you if you don't have help.

I do have one concern that I raise purely because I do not want you or Dante's many, many friends to be hurt.

This is obviously a matter for your judgment, but I am not entirely sure another memorial thread is a good idea for your mental health. I can understand why it might very well be the best idea.

But it appears from what I have seen in other threads that the emotions of DFD, Crazy Girl, and others of Dante's friends are very raw and can be easily hurt. This is completely understandable AND I HOPE EVERYONE WILL TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT BEFORE POSTING IN THIS THREAD OR IN THE MEMORIAL THREAD. But, even honest inquiries by those who did not know Dante or have no basis for knowing he really has passed, can cause damage.

Also, it appears that Dante did make a fair number of enemies on NS. I don't mean a judgment either way. It appears to be a fact -- although I could be wrong. I do not defend for one second someone who lacks the simple decency to -- if not honor someone who has passed -- at least keep silent. To the contrary, I do and will condemn them. But decency may not stop them. And it will not necessarily violate any rules for them to post in a thread you create here.

I say these things NOT to suggest a memorial thread is a bad idea. I just want to make sure you are prepared emotionally for the "slings and arrows" -- both intentional and unintentional -- that may come from such a thread. It may well being you will benefit greatly from such a thread. I hope so. I really hope so. But please consider not exposing yourself to harm without being prepared.

I sincerely hope I cause no offense. I trust you and your friends to do what is best for you and what you think needs to be done for Dante's memory. My best wishes are with you.

Just thinking about your loss and pain is making me upset. I just hope it getting better and will continue to do so. It is long hard road, but you'll make it.

Is that really necessary for you to know?
I have a morbid curiosity. There's nothing wrong with being inquisitive.

snip

You rule.

And for everyone's education, the reason Dante had so many enemies was because he was very active in the invader/defender aspect of NationStates, as a defender. As I understand it, he was very successful as a defender, thus was not very well liked by the invaders. But I could be mistaken. DFD can respond to clarify if she wishes. :)

*Observes a moment of silence for Dante*

(I didn't know him, though)

Yes, Dante's enemies were invaders. He really was hated for ruining invader's plans.

As for the reason he died.......that's complicated. The underlying factor was he was shot. His memorial thread will go into that.......right now, is not really the time to talk about it.

Death is a good time to learn to appriciate life. Der Fuhrer is a wonderful person, and not knowing Dante when he was alive does not mean that you dont know him at all, because his better half remains. I was raised Catholic, and happen to remember this prayer:

Lord,
Dante is gone now from this earthly dwelling,
and has left behind those who mourn his absence.
Grant that we may hold his memory dear,
never bitter for what we have lost
nor in regret for the past,
but always in hope of the eternal kingdom
where you will bring us together again.
We ask this through Christ our Lord.

Amen.

All honor to him and his survivors today. Each and every one of you are fantastic people for supporting someone who is deserving, I knew that about some of you, im pleasantly surprised about others. :)

Good luck all, may none of you ever go through what DFD did, or any of the other people who have cared enough to listen. That he affected so many people is tribute to his character, his loyalty, and those who remember him.

Some people react in rather strange ways to the death of another. It's usually because the fact that the other died frightens them. The unkind comments are in reaction and denial.

Keep in mind what John Donne said about it:

"No man is an island, entire of itself; every
man is a piece of the continent, a part of the
main. If a clod be washed away by the sea,
Europe is the less, as well as if a promontory
were, as well as if a manor of thy friend's or
of thine own were: any man's death diminishes
me, because I am involved in mankind, and
therefore never send to know for whom the bell
tolls; it tolls for thee."


John Donne
Devotions upon
Emergent Occasions, no. 17
(Meditation)
1624 (published)

Well, thank you thus far for the kind words, but I would wait until the actual thread is up to post comments like those. This thread is just asking that respect be given that day; kind of a precursor to the events of May eleventh.

:)